PTS Patch Notes v3.2.1

Feanor

@Turelus

I'm more curious how many will get this one:

...balance changes aren’t in this patch as we’re still in the process of collecting and considering feedback...

Minno

Fuxo wrote: »

No update on templar's eclipse? Do you need more feedback? Is the feedback going to change anything?

It's possible they needed a week to go through the fixes. Some of the threads are complex and might have taken the entire week to read with only enough time to do a quick solar barrage change.

I would be surprised if they didn't address total dark/unstable core feedback at all.

rhapsodious

50 still isn't bad.

A question, though - are the transmute crystals from Trials in the coffers, or in addition to the coffers? You only get the coffers once a week, but you can run the quest as many times as you want, so basically I guess what I'm asking is if it's one crystal a week, or one per completion.

luen79rwb17_ESO

Yes please add geodes drops to MSA.

Flaminir

MissBizz wrote: »

Something that feels VERY weird though...

You will now receive a Transmute Crystal for completing Dragonstar Arena on Veteran mode, just as you would for completing Maelstrom Arena.

VS

Unidentified Transmutation Geodes will now occasionally drop from the final bosses of all Normal and Veteran Dungeons, rather than the Transmute Crystals dropping directly.

vMA or vDSA = 1 crystal. Normal dungeon = 1-10

[Edit] I realize it's only a chance for a geode. But do you know how many normal dungeons you can run in the timeframe that an average player can run vMA or vDSA?

SO much this!!!^^^

The time and effort involved in vMA or vDSA is far and above that of a regular vet dungeon, yet a vet dungeon can give you 10 times more crystals in less that a quarter of the time.

You should get more crystals for activities that are harder and/or take more time to achieve.

vMA/vDSA need to be re-classified as higher up the chain than a standard vet dungeon. Would suggest 7 for vMA as you can do it solo, and 10 for vDSA as this is usually a bit longer and involves a group.

Peekachu99

Turelus wrote: »

Increased the cost of Transmutation from 40 to 50 Crystals.

HAHAHA! OMG this is going to be the subject of the week for sure.

Well it's bit strange that the goal was to add additional sources of crystals to make transmutation easier and less time consuming, then next adding to the cost of a transmutation, which makes things more time consuming...

What's that proverb about one hand not knowing what the other is holding?

Enslaved

Increased the cost of Transmutation from 40 to 50 Crystals.

Sandman929

dimensional wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

sigh....

I react like this every time I see posts like yours. Say something constructive or don't post at all. I for one am glad with the changes in this patch and I think they are doing a great job.

So general attaboys are preferable? Which change was most exciting here? Furnishings, homes, or Transmutation?

SirCritical

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

...balance changes aren’t in this patch as we’re still in the process of collecting and considering feedback. ...

Patience. Patience never dies.

Qwazzy

Something needs to be done about heavy armor sustain.

Tyrobag

Increased the cost of Transmutation from 40 to 50 Crystals.

-_-

Fricken No.

The increase in drop rates is good, but you are canceling it out by increasing the part that people find abhorrent. BRING THE COST DOWN not up. (see, I was going to make an inception joke about the geodes within geodes, but then I read this and it ruined the joke.. and my day... and my faith is ZoS)

Supportic

I like the changes, good work Zos.
The templates are great now.
One thing: could you reduce the crown costs for housing items to 1 crown please? I need to wait at least 2 days until I have all mundus stones in my house to test stuff and I could also take a look on the new housing items.

code65536

Could someone at ZOS please explain why there's even a crystal cap in the first place?

OutLaw_Nynx

code65536 wrote: »

Could someone at ZOS please explain why there's even a crystal cap in the first place?

Because they don’t want you to have BIS at all once

MissBizz

Flaminir wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Something that feels VERY weird though...

You will now receive a Transmute Crystal for completing Dragonstar Arena on Veteran mode, just as you would for completing Maelstrom Arena.

VS

Unidentified Transmutation Geodes will now occasionally drop from the final bosses of all Normal and Veteran Dungeons, rather than the Transmute Crystals dropping directly.

vMA or vDSA = 1 crystal. Normal dungeon = 1-10

[Edit] I realize it's only a chance for a geode. But do you know how many normal dungeons you can run in the timeframe that an average player can run vMA or vDSA?

SO much this!!!^^^

The time and effort involved in vMA or vDSA is far and above that of a regular vet dungeon, yet a vet dungeon can give you 10 times more crystals in less that a quarter of the time.

You should get more crystals for activities that are harder and/or take more time to achieve.

vMA/vDSA need to be re-classified as higher up the chain than a standard vet dungeon. Would suggest 7 for vMA as you can do it solo, and 10 for vDSA as this is usually a bit longer and involves a group.

Agreed @Flaminir .

Honestly, I think all around the veteran sources should be higher than their normal counterparts. Right now it's just a plain dungeon where vet increases your chances...

But why do a random vet when a random normal gives the same geode?

I think it would make sense to have a "normal" geode (1-5) and a "vet" geode (2-10) or something... So that there is an advantage to completing the veteran content over normal.

Sandman929

Didn't even get the 2-3 Alliance War sentences I was hoping for. Was there a mix-up with the notes and that section is coming? No? Everything's good there? Great.

Would it help if we started calling Cyrodiil a "dungeon" when we discuss problems in there?

olsborg

Nothing for medium armor....not surprised.

ShadowHvo

Still no Coldharbour Surreal Estate =(

Kneighbors

MissBizz wrote: »

Something that feels VERY weird though...

You will now receive a Transmute Crystal for completing Dragonstar Arena on Veteran mode, just as you would for completing Maelstrom Arena.

VS

Unidentified Transmutation Geodes will now occasionally drop from the final bosses of all Normal and Veteran Dungeons, rather than the Transmute Crystals dropping directly.

vMA or vDSA = 1 crystal. Normal dungeon = 1-10

[Edit] I realize it's only a chance for a geode. But do you know how many normal dungeons you can run in the timeframe that an average player can run vMA or vDSA?

I don't think this is bad. Actually I really hope it will really be like that. It will draw high cp players into normal dungeons merging the community. As every lowbie out there I really enjoyed having one or more high cp players in our team.

I know, you will say now "4 690cp wil group up and farm normals", in my opinion nah. For my maxed out DD it will take more time to search for 3 more players than to go and harvest normal dungeon. And in any case I don't see anything bad in them grouping up.

Anyway it's a good idea to pull high cp players into farming normals showing new players how to play. Approved.

MissBizz

Kneighbors wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Something that feels VERY weird though...

You will now receive a Transmute Crystal for completing Dragonstar Arena on Veteran mode, just as you would for completing Maelstrom Arena.

VS

Unidentified Transmutation Geodes will now occasionally drop from the final bosses of all Normal and Veteran Dungeons, rather than the Transmute Crystals dropping directly.

vMA or vDSA = 1 crystal. Normal dungeon = 1-10

[Edit] I realize it's only a chance for a geode. But do you know how many normal dungeons you can run in the timeframe that an average player can run vMA or vDSA?

I don't think this is bad. Actually I really hope it will really be like that. It will draw high cp players into normal dungeons merging the community. As every lowbie out there I really enjoyed having one or more high cp players in our team.

I know, you will say now "4 690cp wil group up and farm normals", in my opinion nah. For my maxed out DD it will take more time to search for 3 more players than to go and harvest normal dungeon. And in any case I don't see anything bad in them grouping up.

Anyway it's a good idea to pull high cp players into farming normals showing new players how to play. Approved.

I'm not sure about that. Currently high CP players are farming normal for gear anyways... since normal is faster. Once you have your jewelry it makes no sense to keep running vet.

Let's say this does add more vets to running normal though. Since more vets are doing it... it will be easier to find a group of vets to do it. Since more people are doing it, it should take considerably less time to find 3 others. I actually don't think it takes much time right now to find 3 vets for farming normal. The time it takes is honestly probably less time than the extra time it could take you running with 3 random players. ..so you're better off spending that bit of time finding friends.

If you're going for efficiency of course.

Integral1900

Well that was disappointing...

Now we need 50 transmute crystals and the drop rates remain hazy... who am I kidding, even at five per dungeon I would still be looking at a year for one gear set, sorry but I just don't have spare time of that magnitude

Warden magic dps still at the bottom of the pile by a large margin, good job there aren't class change options or the little buggers would be extinct, I love the charecter I created for mine but game wise she hits with all the force of a soggy cheese sandwich

Aaaaaannnndd still no oven for housing, for crying spout loud that's the blasted basics!!!

theamazingx

Integral1900 wrote: »

Well that was disappointing...

Now we need 50 transmute crystals and the drop rates remain hazy... who am I kidding, even at five per dungeon I would still be looking at a year for one gear set, sorry but I just don't have spare time of that magnitude

Warden magic dps still at the bottom of the pile by a large margin, good job there aren't class change options or the little buggers would be extinct, I love mine but she hits with all the force of a soggy cheese sandwich

Aaaaaannnndd still no oven for housing, for crying spout loud that's the blasted basics!!!

If it takes you a year to run 10 dungeons, not sure how much use you're going to get out of a trait change

Ciphex

Still no warden changes? The lack of importance of ice damage and weakness of its class dots make it unviable as dps in trials while shalks and cliff racers are severely overperforming in cyrodiil; ZOS please address

jeskah

When will we see something exciting? Something bold? Something, well... new?

theamazingx

jeskah wrote: »

When will we see something exciting? Something bold? Something, well... new?

Balance patch allegedly coming next week, if that's what you mean. Unless you're expecting a massive rework bigger than trait changes in a quarterly DLC.

Sandman929

theamazingx wrote: »

jeskah wrote: »

When will we see something exciting? Something bold? Something, well... new?

Balance patch allegedly coming next week, if that's what you mean. Unless you're expecting a massive rework bigger than trait changes in a quarterly DLC.

I didn't realize changing an armor trait was massive. I thought it was just something nice to have. Stable game play must fall under the massive category.

goldenarcher1

Enslaved wrote: »

Increased the cost of Transmutation from 40 to 50 Crystals.

I think thats a Grey Shrike.

Emphatic_Static

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Any update on whether or not the Bug from Befoul increasing self inflicted defile from pirate skeleton being addressed this patch?

You fixed the part of the bug that increased healing received buffs, but did not address the second half of the bug.

Please don't let this continue for another year, because it took an entire year for the first half of the bug to be addressed....

Integral1900

theamazingx wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

Well that was disappointing...

Now we need 50 transmute crystals and the drop rates remain hazy... who am I kidding, even at five per dungeon I would still be looking at a year for one gear set, sorry but I just don't have spare time of that magnitude

Warden magic dps still at the bottom of the pile by a large margin, good job there aren't class change options or the little buggers would be extinct, I love mine but she hits with all the force of a soggy cheese sandwich

Aaaaaannnndd still no oven for housing, for crying spout loud that's the blasted basics!!!

If it takes you a year to run 10 dungeons, not sure how much use you're going to get out of a trait change

My good sir, if you think for one micro second that ten dungeons will give you all you need to re tune a full gear set then you may be in for a rather substantial disappointment

Integral1900

goldenarcher1 wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

Increased the cost of Transmutation from 40 to 50 Crystals.

I think thats a Grey Shrike.

You beet me to it! Oh well, here goes...

"An African or a European swallow!?"

"I don't know that!"

Wwaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh