From what I'm hearing, normal is very accessible, veteran is fairly difficult... and this is the hardest hard mode in the game and they might make it harder since people are getting close to completion on PTS.
The difference between imperfect and perfect isn't huge. People who can complete HM deserve a reward.
From what I'm hearing, normal is very accessible, veteran is fairly difficult... and this is the hardest hard mode in the game and they might make it harder since people are getting close to completion on PTS.
The difference between imperfect and perfect isn't huge. People who can complete HM deserve a reward.
From what I'm hearing, normal is very accessible, veteran is fairly difficult... and this is the hardest hard mode in the game and they might make it harder since people are getting close to completion on PTS.
The difference between imperfect and perfect isn't huge. People who can complete HM deserve a reward.
Imo up to 25% difference in potency is quite substential and should in no way be locked behind vetHM 12 man content. Those weapons might be bis in pvp for some builds. For this the content is way to inaccessible.
From a pvp perspective locking bis gear behind vet hardmode raid content is a nonono nope nopen not a chance i´ll spend a cent on that game at all anymore if this stays as is.
From what I'm hearing, normal is very accessible, veteran is fairly difficult... and this is the hardest hard mode in the game and they might make it harder since people are getting close to completion on PTS.
The difference between imperfect and perfect isn't huge. People who can complete HM deserve a reward.
Imo up to 25% difference in potency is quite substential and should in no way be locked behind vetHM 12 man content. Those weapons might be bis in pvp for some builds. For this the content is way to inaccessible.
From a pvp perspective locking bis gear behind vet hardmode raid content is a nonono nope nopen not a chance i´ll spend a cent on that game at all anymore if this stays as is.
From what I'm hearing, normal is very accessible, veteran is fairly difficult... and this is the hardest hard mode in the game and they might make it harder since people are getting close to completion on PTS.
The difference between imperfect and perfect isn't huge. People who can complete HM deserve a reward.
Imo up to 25% difference in potency is quite substential and should in no way be locked behind vetHM 12 man content. Those weapons might be bis in pvp for some builds. For this the content is way to inaccessible.
From a pvp perspective locking bis gear behind vet hardmode raid content is a nonono nope nopen not a chance i´ll spend a cent on that game at all anymore if this stays as is.
What would be the point of doing hard mode at all then?
From what I'm hearing, normal is very accessible, veteran is fairly difficult... and this is the hardest hard mode in the game and they might make it harder since people are getting close to completion on PTS.
The difference between imperfect and perfect isn't huge. People who can complete HM deserve a reward.
Imo up to 25% difference in potency is quite substential and should in no way be locked behind vetHM 12 man content. Those weapons might be bis in pvp for some builds. For this the content is way to inaccessible.
From a pvp perspective locking bis gear behind vet hardmode raid content is a nonono nope nopen not a chance i´ll spend a cent on that game at all anymore if this stays as is.
From what I'm hearing, normal is very accessible, veteran is fairly difficult... and this is the hardest hard mode in the game and they might make it harder since people are getting close to completion on PTS.
The difference between imperfect and perfect isn't huge. People who can complete HM deserve a reward.
Imo up to 25% difference in potency is quite substential and should in no way be locked behind vetHM 12 man content. Those weapons might be bis in pvp for some builds. For this the content is way to inaccessible.
From a pvp perspective locking bis gear behind vet hardmode raid content is a nonono nope nopen not a chance i´ll spend a cent on that game at all anymore if this stays as is.
What would be the point of doing hard mode at all then?
Hardmode is for ambitioned guys without any are targets as ranking. Guys just few limited guys will be possible to do HM trials. Its fatal to give BiS weapons only as a reward, when 99,8% of the community dont have access to it. As result many guys will quit this game finally! Its more a kind of selfdestruct as a productive step!
The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
vMSA wasnt easy at start... but you dont needed 11 other guys to farm your BiS equipment!
And for example some guys did allready over 100 runs at vMSA and they didnt get the weapons they prefer until now...
With update i need to find time to farm this trial 2x days/week. On this way many guys without that time will leave this too. I think its a wrong way to go...
The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
vMSA wasnt easy at start... but you dont needed 11 other guys to farm your BiS equipment!
And for example some guys did allready over 100 runs at vMSA and they didnt get the weapons they prefer until now...
With update i need to find time to farm this trial 2x days/week. On this way many guys without that time will leave this too. I think its a wrong way to go...
paulsimonps wrote: »The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
vMSA wasnt easy at start... but you dont needed 11 other guys to farm your BiS equipment!
And for example some guys did allready over 100 runs at vMSA and they didnt get the weapons they prefer until now...
With update i need to find time to farm this trial 2x days/week. On this way many guys without that time will leave this too. I think its a wrong way to go...
We got retrait now though, will be much easier to get what you want. Also if you really want those Perfect weapons, they all you got to do is keep trying. Its a 12 man effort, much easier to do it together than soloing vMSA, and a lot more fun. As many have said since vMSA came out, the worst thing about it is spending about an hour plus in there, alone.
And yes I know many people can do vMSA now, but remember at the start? It was REALLY HARD, and people complained about BiS being locked behind that then, now we got this which we can do together and more easily get the correct trait, and people still complain
At least Normal and Regular vet gets something, no Maelstrom or master weapons in Normal DSA or MSA.
The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
vMSA wasnt easy at start... but you dont needed 11 other guys to farm your BiS equipment!
And for example some guys did allready over 100 runs at vMSA and they didnt get the weapons they prefer until now...
With update i need to find time to farm this trial 2x days/week. On this way many guys without that time will leave this too. I think its a wrong way to go...
I passed 700+ VMA runs a while back. And I'm still missing 2 weapons in specific traits, even though I've gotten 8686363737 of everything else. But that will change now with transmutation so I'm good.
The issue is that Imperfect weapons are way too close to Perfect ones, and ridiculously easy to get if they continue to drop on normal.
Either remove them from normal or tone them down immensely compared to Perfect ones and keep them in HM only.
paulsimonps wrote: »The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
vMSA wasnt easy at start... but you dont needed 11 other guys to farm your BiS equipment!
And for example some guys did allready over 100 runs at vMSA and they didnt get the weapons they prefer until now...
With update i need to find time to farm this trial 2x days/week. On this way many guys without that time will leave this too. I think its a wrong way to go...
We got retrait now though, will be much easier to get what you want. Also if you really want those Perfect weapons, they all you got to do is keep trying. Its a 12 man effort, much easier to do it together than soloing vMSA, and a lot more fun. As many have said since vMSA came out, the worst thing about it is spending about an hour plus in there, alone.
And yes I know many people can do vMSA now, but remember at the start? It was REALLY HARD, and people complained about BiS being locked behind that then, now we got this which we can do together and more easily get the correct trait, and people still complain
At least Normal and Regular vet gets something, no Maelstrom or master weapons in Normal DSA or MSA.The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
vMSA wasnt easy at start... but you dont needed 11 other guys to farm your BiS equipment!
And for example some guys did allready over 100 runs at vMSA and they didnt get the weapons they prefer until now...
With update i need to find time to farm this trial 2x days/week. On this way many guys without that time will leave this too. I think its a wrong way to go...
I passed 700+ VMA runs a while back. And I'm still missing 2 weapons in specific traits, even though I've gotten 8686363737 of everything else. But that will change now with transmutation so I'm good.
The issue is that Imperfect weapons are way too close to Perfect ones, and ridiculously easy to get if they continue to drop on normal.
Either remove them from normal or tone them down immensely compared to Perfect ones and keep them in HM only.
Pls read again, i edited my post to give you a example why its not so easy for most guys with age 30+... Isnt a problem with fun or others. We older people just need to find the time to do this. When you start trials, while others going to bed its much more difficult to hold the concentration in circumstances...
But you are right, i forgot the trait optimizer...
The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
The issue is that Imperfect weapons are way too close to Perfect ones, and ridiculously easy to get if they continue to drop on normal.
Either remove them from normal or tone them down immensely compared to Perfect ones and keep them in HM only.
paulsimonps wrote: »The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
vMSA wasnt easy at start... but you dont needed 11 other guys to farm your BiS equipment!
And for example some guys did allready over 100 runs at vMSA and they didnt get the weapons they prefer until now...
With update i need to find time to farm this trial 2x days/week. On this way many guys without that time will leave this too. I think its a wrong way to go...
We got retrait now though, will be much easier to get what you want. Also if you really want those Perfect weapons, they all you got to do is keep trying. Its a 12 man effort, much easier to do it together than soloing vMSA, and a lot more fun. As many have said since vMSA came out, the worst thing about it is spending about an hour plus in there, alone.
And yes I know many people can do vMSA now, but remember at the start? It was REALLY HARD, and people complained about BiS being locked behind that then, now we got this which we can do together and more easily get the correct trait, and people still complain
At least Normal and Regular vet gets something, no Maelstrom or master weapons in Normal DSA or MSA.The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
vMSA wasnt easy at start... but you dont needed 11 other guys to farm your BiS equipment!
And for example some guys did allready over 100 runs at vMSA and they didnt get the weapons they prefer until now...
With update i need to find time to farm this trial 2x days/week. On this way many guys without that time will leave this too. I think its a wrong way to go...
I passed 700+ VMA runs a while back. And I'm still missing 2 weapons in specific traits, even though I've gotten 8686363737 of everything else. But that will change now with transmutation so I'm good.
The issue is that Imperfect weapons are way too close to Perfect ones, and ridiculously easy to get if they continue to drop on normal.
Either remove them from normal or tone them down immensely compared to Perfect ones and keep them in HM only.
Pls read again, i edited my post to give you a example why its not so easy for most guys with age 30+... Isnt a problem with fun or others. We older people just need to find the time to do this. When you start trials, while others going to bed its much more difficult to hold the concentration in circumstances...
But you are right, i forgot the trait optimizer...
I'm 34 with a wife, family and a full time job along with my own company, just work on your time management
The entitlement needs to stop. Not everyone needs to get BiS by doing ridiculously easy things.
To be honest 90% probably don't notice a difference between using different traits anyway. Because BiS gear only accounts for a small part of what you do, perfecting your rotations, getting used to mechanics and learning to play is much more important.
Let the people who put in serious hard work doing the hardest content in the game have proper rewards for once.
Just equipping BiS gear and weapons doesn't make you a good payer, that takes a lot of practice and work.
"Best players"... why is a guys, who dont play this part of game a more worse player, then this guys, who successful finish a HM Trial??
There isnt a difference mate. Both are player and both do well in the parts they want. When a guy just want to do solo content, he dont find access now to do this with best items. Maybe he dont need it, but maybe he want it..
For me it should be a way to craft this weapons as crafter too. Run the normal trial to collect parts from bosses. When you get 100 parts, you are able create this perfected weapons too (only 10 for inperfected). This would be a way to benefit "best crafter/best in what ever" too!
paulsimonps wrote: »"Best players"... why is a guys, who dont play this part of game a more worse player, then this guys, who successful finish a HM Trial??
There isnt a difference mate. Both are player and both do well in the parts they want. When a guy just want to do solo content, he dont find access now to do this with best items. Maybe he dont need it, but maybe he want it..
For me it should be a way to craft this weapons as crafter too. Run the normal trial to collect parts from bosses. When you get 100 parts, you are able create this perfected weapons too (only 10 for inperfected). This would be a way to benefit "best crafter/best in what ever" too!
Did you make the same complaints when Dragonstar Arean and Master weapons were introduced? Its group content that gives strong weapons, many consider the Master Bow a BiS weapon for stamina characters in PvP. There was no reward for it in Normal, no CP 150 Master weapons or anything like that, no matter how much people pleaded with the Devs. Now they are giving us basically that, they are giving us what we asked for, a slightly worse version of the Asylum weapons that is much much easier to get, and if you want to do the Hardest part of it you get the Perfect version instead. This is exactly what many have begged for in vDSA and vMSA. We finally have it, and instead of being happy that we are getting something we want, you push the goal forward and complain that Perfect weapons are not easier to get.....
Its fine as is.
Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I'm a bad player who doesn't deserve any rewards then because I've never completed a vet trial beside vMSA
Maybe we should lock PvE best in slot gear behind dueling tournaments
Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I'm a bad player who doesn't deserve any rewards then because I've never completed a vet trial beside vMSA
Maybe we should lock PvE best in slot gear behind dueling tournaments
Yeah, this would finally be same option for PvEler like for PvPler now! Only very few could get it... Its a nice feeling?
SaintSubwayy wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I'm a bad player who doesn't deserve any rewards then because I've never completed a vet trial beside vMSA
Maybe we should lock PvE best in slot gear behind dueling tournaments
Yeah, this would finally be same option for PvEler like for PvPler now! Only very few could get it... Its a nice feeling?
Well ust disable the PVE Arena weapons in PVP and give them their own wepaons which can only be required doin PVP Arenas (PVP arena weapons disabeld in PVE) and we're fine ;P
SaintSubwayy wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I'm a bad player who doesn't deserve any rewards then because I've never completed a vet trial beside vMSA
Maybe we should lock PvE best in slot gear behind dueling tournaments
Yeah, this would finally be same option for PvEler like for PvPler now! Only very few could get it... Its a nice feeling?
Well ust disable the PVE Arena weapons in PVP and give them their own wepaons which can only be required doin PVP Arenas (PVP arena weapons disabeld in PVE) and we're fine ;P
Ragnaroek93 wrote: »SaintSubwayy wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I'm a bad player who doesn't deserve any rewards then because I've never completed a vet trial beside vMSA
Maybe we should lock PvE best in slot gear behind dueling tournaments
Yeah, this would finally be same option for PvEler like for PvPler now! Only very few could get it... Its a nice feeling?
Well ust disable the PVE Arena weapons in PVP and give them their own wepaons which can only be required doin PVP Arenas (PVP arena weapons disabeld in PVE) and we're fine ;P
Or just give us a token system which allows us to farm the content we enjoy to get our gear. Would make everything less complicated