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Why queue for a dungeon if you're just gonna solo it?
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✭✭✭✭✭FloppyTouch wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
Honestly, this post is a good argument against "but who cares that group is bad, couldnt you just carry them?" posts.
One can never be good for entitled pugs, I guess.
Also, the empathy youre talking about is kinda one-sided. You're calling people you dont even know "knobheads", "jerks", but they should be courteous to you when you meet them in dungeons? Thats... Interesting.
This is so true in today's MMOs everyone is out for just them and if they meet someone else that is out for just them and their fun then they are a jerk. Simple way to put it, you are a jerk bc you won't help me be a jerk.
Off topic but it's the same for crafting you help people research stuff make them gear as they lvl and as soon as they are 9 trait and have motifs they want money or can't be bothered to help other new players. Even if that player got everything for free and sets made when they were new. I have seen this many times and it's sad.
Well those people do all the dirty work for the rest of the team. They arent even asking for ele drain!
They play they role (or even multiple roles), so the rest of the team can do whatever they like. They dont demand anything, they just want the job done. Whats wrong with that?
Of course, if theyre asked to wait a bit for the quest npc (which is important in dungeons like Selenes Web or Vaults of Madness), and theyve ignored that, its rude and selfish. But if they just kill the mobs, nothing wrong with that. After all, thats why everyone is here, in that dungeon: to kill the mobs.
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✭✭✭✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
Honestly, this post is a good argument against "but who cares that group is bad, couldnt you just carry them?" posts.
One can never be good for entitled pugs, I guess.
Also, the empathy youre talking about is kinda one-sided. You're calling people you dont even know "knobheads", "jerks", but they should be courteous to you when you meet them in dungeons? Thats... Interesting.
Yawn. I was responding to the "dlc dungeon" qualifier of the person I quoted.
I'm calling people who display jerk behavior, jerks. I don't have to know them from Adam. Or if that turn of phrase is unknown, then yes, I am calling people "I don't even know" jerks because how can I "get to know them" if they won't respond to chat?Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
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Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
All I see is "I dont know how max penetration works".
So you didn't read the part where it says I use ele drain. All I see is someone who got crushed in their own thread and can't get over it so they bring it to other threads. That's my mistake, I should have known better than to take that bait mate.
Edited by max_only on September 8, 2017 6:51AM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
lol. Yes I take issue with this
Firstly, that assumption is flat out unfair. You don't have enough data to make that assumption. He just asked a question. That's it. And it's a simple question, and frankly, a beneficial one. Ele drain will benefit the entire group.
There is no possible way you can tell anything about his build or skill level because he asked that question. If anything, you can reason it will be better than average, because it shows that he has some knowledge of the game compared to someone in your average pug, who does not have knowledge of the game.
Secondly, Ele drain doesn't even help survivability like you seem to be suggesting. It inflicts major breach
I can't but find the argument you're putting forward highly illogical.
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✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
Omg I was so rude and he just let me. WOW!
yes bro.... you are the most evil person in history. You asked someone to use a skill. Amazed by people at times...2 -
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✭Because I like to be quick. I will ask in chat if anyone is doing the quest, and in that case I will wait when needed so I don't mess up any quest.4 -
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✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
Honestly, this post is a good argument against "but who cares that group is bad, couldnt you just carry them?" posts.
One can never be good for entitled pugs, I guess.
Also, the empathy youre talking about is kinda one-sided. You're calling people you dont even know "knobheads", "jerks", but they should be courteous to you when you meet them in dungeons? Thats... Interesting.
Yawn. I was responding to the "dlc dungeon" qualifier of the person I quoted.
I'm calling people who display jerk behavior, jerks. I don't have to know them from Adam. Or if that turn of phrase is unknown, then yes, I am calling people "I don't even know" jerks because how can I "get to know them" if they won't respond to chat?Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
All I see is "I dont know how max penetration works".
So you didn't read the part where it says I use ele drain. All I see is someone who got crushed in their own thread and can't get over it so they bring it to other threads. That's my mistake, I should have known better than to take that bait mate.
Crushed hahaha! Ah mate I am making a video on that thread and the likes on my post and others who agreed vs those who didnt is 8 to 1 hahaha...
Crushed haha...
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✭✭✭✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
Carrying and cooperation are different things.
Most of healers and tanks cant solo the dungeon if the dps is non-existant. Does that mean theyre getting carried?
Most of dds cant do veteran dungeons without at least a tank or healer. Does that mean that theyre getting carried?
Also, this contradicts your previous post. You blame people who depend on others, but in the other post you're bashing those who are totally independent.
It doesn't really. My first post was about the dlc dungeon qualifier, my second post was me getting caught on bait. Like I said, I use ele drain as a healer. I do that because it benefits the group. I don't mind carrying people at all, you assume a negative from me when I said "they need to be carried". If Hortato zoned into my group and immediately asked for ele drain I'd reply "already got that bro", and move on, but the whole time I'd be wary of them standing in red and derping behind the healer with light bow Attacks because a request like that makes it seem to me that they are dependent on other people. Being dependent on other people is the definition of being carried.
Edit: I'm carried all the time. I play either healer or tank so I'm carried through dps checks. Because Zos can't build a dungeon that actually REQUIRES a dedicated tank and a dedicated healer.Edited by max_only on September 8, 2017 7:15AM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭✭✭✭Sadly I had the opposite thing happen, I get kicked because I wanted to hear what the NPCs said since it was my first time in a group dungeon and everyone else had been through the dungeon many times so when I didn't move fast enough they kicked me which was kinda of a *** move...
Don't expect to be able to read the dialogue in any dungeon or trial. Very few people are going to wait for you (there is just too much dialogue).
The only way to reliably do this is to run with friends or solo the dungeons once you've levelled/geared up.Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 8, 2017 7:06AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
There is no way to speed through vet DLC content. Everything has a ton of health.
People will skip mobs, but that's fine. Everyone does this in vet DLC dungeons. The dungeon is too long otherwise.Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 8, 2017 7:04AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭Usually, I need that 100kxp (400k when enlightened) to level a skill, so I join a normal dungeon and smash it. I do however wait at bosses for people. But trash is trash.Edited by Brrrofski on September 8, 2017 8:41AM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
lol. Yes I take issue with this
Firstly, that assumption is flat out unfair. You don't have enough data to make that assumption. He just asked a question. That's it. And it's a simple question, and frankly, a beneficial one. Ele drain will benefit the entire group.
There is no possible way you can tell anything about his build or skill level because he asked that question. If anything, you can reason it will be better than average, because it shows that he has some knowledge of the game compared to someone in your average pug, who does not have knowledge of the game.
Secondly, Ele drain doesn't even help survivability like you seem to be suggesting. It inflicts major breach
I can't but find the argument you're putting forward highly illogical.
We all make unfair assumptions in life. Doesn't change anything. He makes an assumption that end game healers don't have it, I make an assumption that he can't play without it.
I know ele drain benefits the entire group, that why I always have it.
You're right, there's no possible way to tell. Which is why most people I encounter wait until the first group of trash mobs is cleared before piping up with suggestions. If anything it shows he has the knowledge of having seen a YouTuber build for trials, not that he actually understands the game. See? It can go both ways.
I never said ele drain helps with survivability. It does give back magika though, and everyone can use magika return.
Two things can contrast and both be true. There are plenty of dichotomies in life.
Edited by max_only on September 8, 2017 7:20AM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
Honestly, this post is a good argument against "but who cares that group is bad, couldnt you just carry them?" posts.
One can never be good for entitled pugs, I guess.
Also, the empathy youre talking about is kinda one-sided. You're calling people you dont even know "knobheads", "jerks", but they should be courteous to you when you meet them in dungeons? Thats... Interesting.
Yawn. I was responding to the "dlc dungeon" qualifier of the person I quoted.
I'm calling people who display jerk behavior, jerks. I don't have to know them from Adam. Or if that turn of phrase is unknown, then yes, I am calling people "I don't even know" jerks because how can I "get to know them" if they won't respond to chat?Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
All I see is "I dont know how max penetration works".
So you didn't read the part where it says I use ele drain. All I see is someone who got crushed in their own thread and can't get over it so they bring it to other threads. That's my mistake, I should have known better than to take that bait mate.
Crushed hahaha! Ah mate I am making a video on that thread and the likes on my post and others who agreed vs those who didnt is 8 to 1 hahaha...
Crushed haha...
Cool story bro.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
Honestly, this post is a good argument against "but who cares that group is bad, couldnt you just carry them?" posts.
One can never be good for entitled pugs, I guess.
Also, the empathy youre talking about is kinda one-sided. You're calling people you dont even know "knobheads", "jerks", but they should be courteous to you when you meet them in dungeons? Thats... Interesting.
Yawn. I was responding to the "dlc dungeon" qualifier of the person I quoted.
I'm calling people who display jerk behavior, jerks. I don't have to know them from Adam. Or if that turn of phrase is unknown, then yes, I am calling people "I don't even know" jerks because how can I "get to know them" if they won't respond to chat?Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
All I see is "I dont know how max penetration works".
So you didn't read the part where it says I use ele drain. All I see is someone who got crushed in their own thread and can't get over it so they bring it to other threads. That's my mistake, I should have known better than to take that bait mate.
Crushed hahaha! Ah mate I am making a video on that thread and the likes on my post and others who agreed vs those who didnt is 8 to 1 hahaha...
Crushed haha...
Cool story bro.
Cool story is all you have to say?
You complain about people not "reading" your posts but then you go and post things like "you got crushed in your thread" when the support was 8 to 1 in favour of me.
Do you understand why some might skip your posts after that rubbish?
Also you showed a clear demonstration of not knowing that ele can help the dps hit max pen of 18k allowing them to use better wep traits instead of sharp. What would I know though? You did also assume I only watch guides and dont know how to play.. Like that is a reason for a healer to not debuff.. lol...0 -
I was guilty of this last night in fungal, a quick blitz for the.undaunted key id spent the previous 2 hours writing my dads eulogy so was just a bad day I shouldnt have logged in tbh.
As soon as I realised 2 of the guys where doing the quest I slowed right up and treat it like a normal fun run and glad I did as was a very chatty fun group and took my mind off the days events.7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
Honestly, this post is a good argument against "but who cares that group is bad, couldnt you just carry them?" posts.
One can never be good for entitled pugs, I guess.
Also, the empathy youre talking about is kinda one-sided. You're calling people you dont even know "knobheads", "jerks", but they should be courteous to you when you meet them in dungeons? Thats... Interesting.
Yawn. I was responding to the "dlc dungeon" qualifier of the person I quoted.
I'm calling people who display jerk behavior, jerks. I don't have to know them from Adam. Or if that turn of phrase is unknown, then yes, I am calling people "I don't even know" jerks because how can I "get to know them" if they won't respond to chat?Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
All I see is "I dont know how max penetration works".
So you didn't read the part where it says I use ele drain. All I see is someone who got crushed in their own thread and can't get over it so they bring it to other threads. That's my mistake, I should have known better than to take that bait mate.
Crushed hahaha! Ah mate I am making a video on that thread and the likes on my post and others who agreed vs those who didnt is 8 to 1 hahaha...
Crushed haha...
Cool story bro.
Cool story is all you have to say?
You complain about people not "reading" your posts but then you go and post things like "you got crushed in your thread" when the support was 8 to 1 in favour of me.
Do you understand why some might skip your posts after that rubbish?
Also you showed a clear demonstration of not knowing that ele can help the dps hit max pen of 18k allowing them to use better wep traits instead of sharp. What would I know though? You did also assume I only watch guides and dont know how to play.. Like that is a reason for a healer to not debuff.. lol...
Quote me where I said that, ever.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
Honestly, this post is a good argument against "but who cares that group is bad, couldnt you just carry them?" posts.
One can never be good for entitled pugs, I guess.
Also, the empathy youre talking about is kinda one-sided. You're calling people you dont even know "knobheads", "jerks", but they should be courteous to you when you meet them in dungeons? Thats... Interesting.
Yawn. I was responding to the "dlc dungeon" qualifier of the person I quoted.
I'm calling people who display jerk behavior, jerks. I don't have to know them from Adam. Or if that turn of phrase is unknown, then yes, I am calling people "I don't even know" jerks because how can I "get to know them" if they won't respond to chat?Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
All I see is "I dont know how max penetration works".
So you didn't read the part where it says I use ele drain. All I see is someone who got crushed in their own thread and can't get over it so they bring it to other threads. That's my mistake, I should have known better than to take that bait mate.
Crushed hahaha! Ah mate I am making a video on that thread and the likes on my post and others who agreed vs those who didnt is 8 to 1 hahaha...
Crushed haha...
Cool story bro.
Cool story is all you have to say?
You complain about people not "reading" your posts but then you go and post things like "you got crushed in your thread" when the support was 8 to 1 in favour of me.
Do you understand why some might skip your posts after that rubbish?
Also you showed a clear demonstration of not knowing that ele can help the dps hit max pen of 18k allowing them to use better wep traits instead of sharp. What would I know though? You did also assume I only watch guides and dont know how to play.. Like that is a reason for a healer to not debuff.. lol...
Quote me where I said that, ever.
The 1000 times you have said that its for magic regen instead of the reason good healers use it for.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
There is no way to speed through vet DLC content. Everything has a ton of health.
People will skip mobs, but that's fine. Everyone does this in vet DLC dungeons. The dungeon is too long otherwise.MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
There is no way to speed through vet DLC content. Everything has a ton of health.
People will skip mobs, but that's fine. Everyone does this in vet DLC dungeons. The dungeon is too long otherwise.
Hmm. Well the first weekend after HotR dropped I ran normal Bloodroot Forge and there was someone in ther running ahead and soloing bosses like they had run it 456 times already. This jerk behavior means they either don't care about the other 3 people in the group (the point of this thread) or they really feel like everyone and their grandma has already run BrF a million times by the first weekend and they were "doing us a favor". Speed running through vets is fine by me. Vet is where you go to complete challenges like the speed run achievement. Speed running normals is also fine, but if someone asks Player X to slow down and they don't, then they are a knobhead. Where else should newbs go to experience a dungeon if not in the normal mode? They certainly aren't going to be waited on to do the quest in vet mode.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
Honestly, this post is a good argument against "but who cares that group is bad, couldnt you just carry them?" posts.
One can never be good for entitled pugs, I guess.
Also, the empathy youre talking about is kinda one-sided. You're calling people you dont even know "knobheads", "jerks", but they should be courteous to you when you meet them in dungeons? Thats... Interesting.
Yawn. I was responding to the "dlc dungeon" qualifier of the person I quoted.
I'm calling people who display jerk behavior, jerks. I don't have to know them from Adam. Or if that turn of phrase is unknown, then yes, I am calling people "I don't even know" jerks because how can I "get to know them" if they won't respond to chat?Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
All I see is "I dont know how max penetration works".
So you didn't read the part where it says I use ele drain. All I see is someone who got crushed in their own thread and can't get over it so they bring it to other threads. That's my mistake, I should have known better than to take that bait mate.
Crushed hahaha! Ah mate I am making a video on that thread and the likes on my post and others who agreed vs those who didnt is 8 to 1 hahaha...
Crushed haha...
Cool story bro.
Cool story is all you have to say?
You complain about people not "reading" your posts but then you go and post things like "you got crushed in your thread" when the support was 8 to 1 in favour of me.
Do you understand why some might skip your posts after that rubbish?
Also you showed a clear demonstration of not knowing that ele can help the dps hit max pen of 18k allowing them to use better wep traits instead of sharp. What would I know though? You did also assume I only watch guides and dont know how to play.. Like that is a reason for a healer to not debuff.. lol...
Quote me where I said that, ever.
The 1000 times you have said that its for magic regen instead of the reason good healers use it for.
Right. So you can't quote it because I never said it. I said it was good for magic regen once in response to another person's point where they mistakenly claim that I suggested that it's only use is survivability -- which I did not do.
Also, ele drain itself isn't the problem.
It's the request of any skill upon zoning in that in turn causes me to assume that I'm going to have to carry someone. The fact that you are stuck on ele drain, that you can't produce a quote, and you admit to not reading other people's posts should be a red flag to me to stop. You can't get over your own thread, I really shouldn't be encouraging you to derail this one.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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squinquargesimus✭✭✭If you're speed running to farm gear maybe... form a farming group? This may come as a shock, but there's this thing called "chat" where you can ask other people if they, too, want to farm this dungeon and form a group of guaranteed like minded people! \o/
Especially if you're grouping instead of solo farming (which is definitely easily possible -- source: I've done exactly that to get 90% of my bsw drops) for more loot drops since there's a good chance gf will throw you in with a bunch of lowbies (and newbies who'd like to, you know, actually do the dungeon -- shoutout to the guy I've had in a recent PUG who got thrown into WGT as his very first dungeon) whose loot will be absolutely worthless to the mighty speed run farmer. (Also good luck getting anything from me if you can't even take a moment to ask in chat if a speedrun is ok with the other 3 random people you're now grouped with.)
If you're using gf and then can't be arsed to check if the other 3 people are cool with speeding through, you've got no excuse, tbqh. If most of them are cool with it -- go ahead! But 3 vs 1 suggests that maybe the one should consider not ruining it for 3 other people.only a red rage shaped diamond-fashion, singing like a mindless dragon.5 -
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✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
Honestly, this post is a good argument against "but who cares that group is bad, couldnt you just carry them?" posts.
One can never be good for entitled pugs, I guess.
Also, the empathy youre talking about is kinda one-sided. You're calling people you dont even know "knobheads", "jerks", but they should be courteous to you when you meet them in dungeons? Thats... Interesting.
Yawn. I was responding to the "dlc dungeon" qualifier of the person I quoted.
I'm calling people who display jerk behavior, jerks. I don't have to know them from Adam. Or if that turn of phrase is unknown, then yes, I am calling people "I don't even know" jerks because how can I "get to know them" if they won't respond to chat?Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
All I see is "I dont know how max penetration works".
So you didn't read the part where it says I use ele drain. All I see is someone who got crushed in their own thread and can't get over it so they bring it to other threads. That's my mistake, I should have known better than to take that bait mate.
Crushed hahaha! Ah mate I am making a video on that thread and the likes on my post and others who agreed vs those who didnt is 8 to 1 hahaha...
Crushed haha...
Cool story bro.
Cool story is all you have to say?
You complain about people not "reading" your posts but then you go and post things like "you got crushed in your thread" when the support was 8 to 1 in favour of me.
Do you understand why some might skip your posts after that rubbish?
Also you showed a clear demonstration of not knowing that ele can help the dps hit max pen of 18k allowing them to use better wep traits instead of sharp. What would I know though? You did also assume I only watch guides and dont know how to play.. Like that is a reason for a healer to not debuff.. lol...
Quote me where I said that, ever.
The 1000 times you have said that its for magic regen instead of the reason good healers use it for.
Right. So you can't quote it because I never said it. I said it was good for magic regen once in response to another person's point where they mistakenly claim that I suggested that it's only use is survivability -- which I did not do.
Also, ele drain itself isn't the problem.
It's the request of any skill upon zoning in that in turn causes me to assume that I'm going to have to carry someone. The fact that you are stuck on ele drain, that you can't produce a quote, and you admit to not reading other people's posts should be a red flag to me to stop. You can't get over your own thread, I really shouldn't be encouraging you to derail this one.
Dw, you wont have to worry about giving anyone a carry bro lol..0 -
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Well if you have a tank who pierces boss, applying ele drain on top is purely for magicka sustain and nothing else.
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✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »LadyNalcarya wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
No. Knobheads are speeding through the Horns of the Reach dungeons too. Those are Dlc dungeons. Jerks will be jerks will be jerks regardless of circumstance. If they changed depending on environment then they'd have empathy. Knobheads have none.
Honestly, this post is a good argument against "but who cares that group is bad, couldnt you just carry them?" posts.
One can never be good for entitled pugs, I guess.
Also, the empathy youre talking about is kinda one-sided. You're calling people you dont even know "knobheads", "jerks", but they should be courteous to you when you meet them in dungeons? Thats... Interesting.
Yawn. I was responding to the "dlc dungeon" qualifier of the person I quoted.
I'm calling people who display jerk behavior, jerks. I don't have to know them from Adam. Or if that turn of phrase is unknown, then yes, I am calling people "I don't even know" jerks because how can I "get to know them" if they won't respond to chat?Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I once made a thread about how a group INSTA kicked me when we started the dungeon. I said "Can the healer use ele drain pls" as we entered. Not a single mob was even pulled yet. They instantly kicked me.
I think this is just a trigger for them at this point.
They don't actually know what ele drain is, so any time anyone starts asking about 'ele drain', it's an immediate trigger and they think people are "telling them how to play the game", so their respone is to try and kick whoever is asking about it so they can continue their preferred way of play. To me that behavior is not acceptable, but I know others will disagree.
Correct.
Incorrect.
Just like I. Your other thread I will repeat what went largely ignored. If someone zones in and immediately requests a skill from others, I have to assume that their build is so deficient that they can't play without that skill. That they built their entire character depending on another person's set up-- which means they need to be carried. I use ele drain, so your particular request doe st phase me, it's the fact that you requested it immediately upon zoning in as if you can't survive without it.
All I see is "I dont know how max penetration works".
So you didn't read the part where it says I use ele drain. All I see is someone who got crushed in their own thread and can't get over it so they bring it to other threads. That's my mistake, I should have known better than to take that bait mate.
Crushed hahaha! Ah mate I am making a video on that thread and the likes on my post and others who agreed vs those who didnt is 8 to 1 hahaha...
Crushed haha...
Cool story bro.
Cool story is all you have to say?
You complain about people not "reading" your posts but then you go and post things like "you got crushed in your thread" when the support was 8 to 1 in favour of me.
Do you understand why some might skip your posts after that rubbish?
Also you showed a clear demonstration of not knowing that ele can help the dps hit max pen of 18k allowing them to use better wep traits instead of sharp. What would I know though? You did also assume I only watch guides and dont know how to play.. Like that is a reason for a healer to not debuff.. lol...
Quote me where I said that, ever.
The 1000 times you have said that its for magic regen instead of the reason good healers use it for.
Right. So you can't quote it because I never said it. I said it was good for magic regen once in response to another person's point where they mistakenly claim that I suggested that it's only use is survivability -- which I did not do.
Also, ele drain itself isn't the problem.
It's the request of any skill upon zoning in that in turn causes me to assume that I'm going to have to carry someone. The fact that you are stuck on ele drain, that you can't produce a quote, and you admit to not reading other people's posts should be a red flag to me to stop. You can't get over your own thread, I really shouldn't be encouraging you to derail this one.
Be honest at least. This has nothing to do with you worrying about having to carry people.. This is you being sensitive to someone questioning your skill. Funny enough no one is if they ask for a skill to be used but you are so sensitive about the topic that you jump to the conclusion.SquareSausage wrote: »This ele drain chat ugh.
Well if you have a tank who pierces boss, applying ele drain on top is purely for magicka sustain and nothing else.
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That is also true. Anyone could ask for either. However its not rude or elitist to want max penetration from the roles that should provide it.. If I asked tank first or both at the same time it would of resulted in the same outcome. This guy doesnt even think of ele drain as a skill used to hit max pen though which makes it even more lol.0 -
Pele✭✭✭✭✭It's simple, really - if you have no regard for others and can't play well with others, don't use a tool that's designed for playing with others. Play by yourself.
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.
If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).
If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.
Dont blame the power creep, that's a buzz word.
Blame the fact that the system needs working.1 -
NotNormanBates✭✭✭Honestly if ZoS made it so i could reset my own dungeons AND the drops weren't so abysmally low running solo(on weapons),i wouldn't have to do this. But as it stands i get in this act of run after run after run after run(x1000000) where all i think about is how many runs can i pack into the amount of time i have.
On the upside if someone said "hey i'm doing the quest can you chill a minute" i'd be more then happy to wait the 30 sec. it takes them. Not to mention i'll usually offer *atleast* a hundred thousand gold for the exact weapon im looking for, and a smaller but still substantial amount for a weapon that's slightly off from it.(usually the price rises the longer i've been farming for it that day lol)2
