Why queue for a dungeon if you're just gonna solo it?

Zypheran

Why is there always one person in a group who uses GF to do group content but the second they get into the dungeon, they blitz off miles ahead and just start soloing the dungeon?
I mean, do they actually want to do group content or is it just some ego thing? This happens in at least 1 out of 3 dungeons now.

MLGProPlayer

The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.

If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).

If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.

rotaugen454

I had someone do that and they said "it's a speed run". Is there an achievement in Normal for doing that?

Asardes

Well more chances for drops (if > CP160), 10% XP, maybe random dungeon bonus, lots of reasons to still group even if you are able to solo.

Nestor

Just kick them from the group, they get removed from the instance and have to start all over again in 15 minutes

rotaugen454

Asardes wrote: »

Well more chances for drops (if > CP160), 10% XP, maybe random dungeon bonus, lots of reasons to still group even if you are able to solo.

Yeah, but I've had them ignore chests, which is a definite drop for me if intermediate or above.

MLGProPlayer

rotaugen454 wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Well more chances for drops (if > CP160), 10% XP, maybe random dungeon bonus, lots of reasons to still group even if you are able to solo.

Yeah, but I've had them ignore chests, which is a definite drop for me if intermediate or above.

They're probably just farming gear drops. I don't bother with chests either (unless I'm farming weapons).

Magdalina

Likely farming. Or possibly for the random dungeon bonus, you can't get that on your own. Personally I usually try to say hi and wait if people ask me to(did you ask him to wait?). I suppose it could be frustrating if someone had quest and/or wanted to take it slow, but on the whole a person soloing the dungeon for you is probably better than a team that gets stuck for hours

Marabornwingrion

Nestor wrote: »

Just kick them from the group, they get removed from the instance and have to start all over again in 15 minutes

Maybe it's better to talk with person like this why he keeps running like crazy, instead of kicking him without any word...?

Nestor

Astrid_V wrote: »

Maybe it's better to talk with person like this why he keeps running like crazy, instead of kicking him without any word...?

Good luck with that. Let me know how that works for you.

Something tells me you would have talked to him if you could, hence the reason for your post here.

Kihamai

A lot of people also do it as quickly as possible for either the quick experience or undaunted key if they aren't farming. I wait on people in dungeons even though I'm capable of doing the normal dungeons myself, because obviously it's not fun playing the catch-up game rather than playing and fighting. It's not that hard to be considerate of others.

Danksta

I might speed ahead and maybe take out a few mobs while people catch up but unless they're really just wasting peoples time I'm not going to start on a boss.

Demycilian

When someon is being like that i instantly leave. I usually run as a healer and dont need to take no ***.

Judas Helviaryn

If someone is rushing ahead, and obviously capable of soloing the dungeon, it's likely they're grinding it and giving the people they're paired up with an easy run, in their eyes. It doesn't necessarily mean they're malicious.

Communication is key in any issue, don't automatically write people off without trying to open a dialogue, and separately examining the pros and cons of letting them do what they do.

You might find yourself doing the same thing in the future, especially if you associate with people who can teach you a thing or two, like our subject.

@Nestor You should know better than that. =P

Shardan4968

Yeah I know that type. When I see that someone is rambo and I can't even hit one mob before he/she kills it, I just don't do anything, because it's just pointless. Worst in this is that I can't even finish dialog with npc, because he/she is soloing boss already, so questing is a nightmare. I don't understand, you are powerful, so why are you wasting your time in DF? Asking them to slow down doesn't work, one guy from mah team said to wait one minute, but this speedruner didn't care.

Morbash

No, not every action performed by other players is an ego trip. They're likely just farming for gear and have tunnel vision.

I've done this before while farming blackheart haven, but before I sped through it, I made sure everyone who wanted the quest had it.

Zypheran

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

If someone is rushing ahead, and obviously capable of soloing the dungeon, it's likely they're grinding it and giving the people they're paired up with an easy run, in their eyes. It doesn't necessarily mean they're malicious.

Communication is key in any issue, don't automatically write people off without trying to open a dialogue, and separately examining the pros and cons of letting them do what they do.

You might find yourself doing the same thing in the future, especially if you associate with people who can teach you a thing or two, like our subject.

@Nestor You should know better than that. =P

I do run solo dungeons myself. But when I queue for a group content I respect that this isn't the 'me' show. No, I'm with @Nestor on this. It's actually quite rude to just storm off ahead and ignore others in the group. Especially when there might be low levels running dungeon for first time.

Nestor

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

@Nestor You should know better than that. =P

If the OP had been successful at talking to them, that would be one thing. But, based on the description of them being "Miles ahead" I doubt any discourse would have been well received.

I am glad your giving them the benefit of the doubt. I have come across this enough times with no response from the one running ahead to not even want to try. They have already shown their intentions by running ahead that they don't want to be part of the group. Now, I won't say that 1 out of 3 does this, but out of 10 to 20 pugs, I get this at least once. I send a "Hey do you want to wait?" message and get crickets back.

So, try to talk to them if you feel it's the right thing to do, and maybe they will listen. But, I bet your going to be kicking more of them than getting them to hang back.

sevomd69

Demycilian wrote: »

When someon is being like that i instantly leave. I usually run as a healer and dont need to take no ***.

Usually they don't need your heals if its a normal run...

Seraphayel

Zypheran wrote: »

Why is there always one person in a group who uses GF to do group content but the second they get into the dungeon, they blitz off miles ahead and just start soloing the dungeon?
I mean, do they actually want to do group content or is it just some ego thing? This happens in at least 1 out of 3 dungeons now.

Yep. One thing why I hate the group finder.

sevomd69

I always ask if anyone needs the quest... and if no-one does... I say let's just burn this thing and... we usually just do...

Zypheran

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

The content is simply too easy to wait for people. Blame the power creep.

If you're talking about normal dungeons, then it's because they're farming. Blame the current system which encourages farming normal mode for gear instead of vet (the same gear drops in both, so running normals is more efficient).

If you want to play as a group, then do DLC dungeons.

That doesn't make sense to me..
It sounds like you're saying 'if you want to do group content, don't do one of the most quintessential group activities because others playing this group content don't really want to play as a group'??

kichwas

MMO players are like teenage boys - they are desperate to group with you and will spend hours waiting around for the chance while doing nothing useful but complaining about the wait... and the first thing that happens when they finally get there is they rush through it all and finish - and now again have nothing left to do but be bored and complain.

I have never understood this. If I'm waiting to do something, I want to enjoy that something as much as I can once it's time has arrived.

Enslaved

Nestor wrote: »

Just kick them from the group, they get removed from the instance and have to start all over again in 15 minutes

I don't agree. Or you say we should all RP lvl 20 players not to hurt someone's feelings in a normal dungeon?
All that QQ about others being elitists for running solo without waiting others - I'll see you in 6 months or so when you will be CP600+ and 99% of you will do the same as these elitists.

Demycilian

sevomd69 wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

When someon is being like that i instantly leave. I usually run as a healer and dont need to take no ***.

Usually they don't need your heals if its a normal run...

Luckily, it never is, so they usually do. Which makes it all the more fun.

sevomd69

Demycilian wrote: »

sevomd69 wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

When someon is being like that i instantly leave. I usually run as a healer and dont need to take no ***.

Usually they don't need your heals if its a normal run...

Luckily, i dont, so they usually do. Which makes it all the more fun.

Don't quite get what you're saying there...

Demycilian

sevomd69 wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

sevomd69 wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

When someon is being like that i instantly leave. I usually run as a healer and dont need to take no ***.

Usually they don't need your heals if its a normal run...

Luckily, i dont, so they usually do. Which makes it all the more fun.

Don't quite get what you're saying there...

Yea, didnt make sense. I fixed it.

Runefang

Sounds like you get the good end of the deal, being carried through the dungeon so you get all the rewards without any difficulties.

Not sure I see the problem, but I'm more of 'achiever' gamer type so I'm happy to let somebody else do the work if I can progress my character quicker.

Nestor

Enslaved wrote: »

I don't agree. Or you say we should all RP lvl 20 players not to hurt someone's feelings in a normal dungeon?
All that QQ about others being elitists for running solo without waiting others - I'll see you in 6 months or so when you will be CP600+ and 99% of you will do the same as these elitists.

@Enslaved

Way to make some assumptions there.....

CP877, and been doing group dungeons since launch. I always wait, and always check to see if people are doing the quest, wait for dialogs, need help with mechanics, tripots, food etc etc. It is a joy to run dungeons with me.

Just because I don't put up with boorish rude behavior from other players does not mean I do it myself.

Zypheran

Enslaved wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Just kick them from the group, they get removed from the instance and have to start all over again in 15 minutes

I don't agree. Or you say we should all RP lvl 20 players not to hurt someone's feelings in a normal dungeon?
All that QQ about others being elitists for running solo without waiting others - I'll see you in 6 months or so when you will be CP600+ and 99% of you will do the same as these elitists.

This isn't a CP thing imo. I am well past max CP and am willing to bet so is Nestor. But look at it this way... so many high CP players kick low level players from dungeons but then high CP players go into low level dungeons and hijack the group activity and the attitude seems to be 'Meh... deal with it!'

rotaugen454

Enslaved wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Just kick them from the group, they get removed from the instance and have to start all over again in 15 minutes

I don't agree. Or you say we should all RP lvl 20 players not to hurt someone's feelings in a normal dungeon?
All that QQ about others being elitists for running solo without waiting others - I'll see you in 6 months or so when you will be CP600+ and 99% of you will do the same as these elitists.

I'm CP 871 and wait for others...