PTS Patch Notes v3.1.3

ixie

WardogAce wrote: »

rhapsodious wrote: »

WardogAce wrote: »

Can someone explain to me what a VFX Furnishing is? I can only think "Visual Effects" but what does this include?

but I assume stuff like the collectible skyshard would be in this category.

Unfortunately the PTS set toon can't buy the skyshard so I can't test it

I tried the skyshard, it was just a regular furnishing

Jayne_Doe

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Tyrobag wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Linchal Grand Manor: This imposing estate in the Nibenese style was originally built as the summer manor of an Imperial City nobleman, now sadly deceased. Gardens with statues and a reflecting pool surround the stately walled mansion. Sumptuous!

• This home will only be available for purchase with crowns once it goes live.

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Are you ******* kidding me? This is bull ****. Will you just make ONE nice house that isn't a **** crown exclusive?!?

This one doesn't make sense since it's not even an original asset. It just re-uses a housing asset that's been in the game since launch. All crown store houses up until now have been original assets. You were presumably paying for the time it took developers to model the new house. Now we're paying for the time it took developers to copy and paste an existing house into a housing instance. How many minutes did that take?

It should be available to people who bought the Imperial Edition. Just another spit into everyones face, im speechless.

This sets a bad trend for housing in DLC areas. I'm hopeful that this is the ONLY DLC house that is strictly available for Crowns - or that there will also be houses in the same DLC areas that are available for gold.

BrightOblivion

@ZOS_GinaBruno , there are still some bugs that need fixing, unless the fixes have slipped into the PTS without mention.

1) The Journal Page from Severus Tappo's corpse is still uninteractable, meaning that you can't start "The List" quest in Cyrodiil and you can't obtain the Criminal Correspondance "It's the Hunt that Counts," which is only available after doing the quest (Tappo's on the north shore of the lake south of King's Crest Cavern and north of Farragut Keep if you can't find him, and the Journal Page's ItemID is 43518, I think).

2) Valyia's Cargo Manifest (bookID 1596, I think) is still invisible/unobtainable after finishing the questline for the Obsidian Gorge.

3) Something's screwy with the map while in the caves of the Tempest Island dungeon. At first, I thought maybe it was a problem with my minimap but, when I opened the regular map with "M," my "You are here" and "Group members are here" arrows were nowhere to be found. As a result, there's not really any way to track group progress through the caves if someone gets turned around. After a couple runs, you know where you're going, but it's still a little frustrating. I'm unsure if this one is intentional (some sort of "Off the edge of the map" thing), but you fixed a different map problem a couple PTS patches back, so I figured I should probably check.

I know y'all are currently working diligently on all this stuff, and you've fixed quite a few bugs already. I just don't want these bugs, some of which have been there for a couple months at least, to slip through the cracks.

YoshinJaa

SirCritical wrote: »

JustSnilloc wrote: »

That's a big hit to Green Pact and Plague Doctor. They are certainly still viable, but I'm curious where the nerf is coming from for those.

Exactly. Wtf was the problem again, now with maxHP tank builds? And yes, that 2.3k maxHP could count.

Meanwhile crit sets were buffed, just to nerf them in the next patch?!

they are buffing the 2-4pc health bonuses so its not really a loss I don't think

BraidasNM

Vercingetorix wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

im just curious why valkyn is still an instant, unavoidable proc when all the others have been nerfed

Valkyn Skoria is not instant - it's delayed with a telegraphed rumble/noise as it gets ready to impact. One can easily ward up in response to the proc. If YOU have problems with Skoria, then that's YOUR problem. L2P and stop crying.
Nerfing something doesn't improve your gameplay - it just means you'll lose to something else.

i was gonna elaborate but your post is too far gone, i assume any decent player knows how it works anyway

Anne_Firehawk

Jayne_Doe wrote: »

Anne_Firehawk wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Tyrobag wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Linchal Grand Manor: This imposing estate in the Nibenese style was originally built as the summer manor of an Imperial City nobleman, now sadly deceased. Gardens with statues and a reflecting pool surround the stately walled mansion. Sumptuous!

• This home will only be available for purchase with crowns once it goes live.

[/list]

Are you ******* kidding me? This is bull ****. Will you just make ONE nice house that isn't a **** crown exclusive?!?

This one doesn't make sense since it's not even an original asset. It just re-uses a housing asset that's been in the game since launch. All crown store houses up until now have been original assets. You were presumably paying for the time it took developers to model the new house. Now we're paying for the time it took developers to copy and paste an existing house into a housing instance. How many minutes did that take?

It should be available to people who bought the Imperial Edition. Just another spit into everyones face, im speechless.

This sets a bad trend for housing in DLC areas. I'm hopeful that this is the ONLY DLC house that is strictly available for Crowns - or that there will also be houses in the same DLC areas that are available for gold.

It's just so sad, everyone was hyped so much for this house, including myself. I really love housing, it's a nice addition to all the vHoF and PVP but the way this is going just giving me such a gutsinking feeling, specially when they did so *** much right this patch that I really had my hopes high.

silveraldi

omfg

Saint_Bud

LiquidPony wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

Nerfing Spinner+Spriggan but not Twice Fanged Snake is useless... PvE wise that only kills stam diversity

I suspect TFS will go bye-bye as groups start running multiple stam toons anyway.

Given Alkosh + Sunderflame/NMG in the group, you'll get much higher DPS swapping out TFS for another set (e.g., War Machine + Hunding's or Hunding's + VO).

Just no. It can be an option for a good dps video on a boss like valariel, but not on fights were the group are splitet like 2nd vmol boss or nearly all vhof bosses. Also it will be nearly impossible to run with more than 4 stamtoons.

silveraldi

i just cant understand why ZOS hate my magblade so much , first my PvE build and now my Ganking Build , ffs

DDuke

Edit: nvm - disregard

Mix

Why can't we preview the Coldharbour Surreal Estate?

Kronuxx

BraidasNM wrote: »

im just curious why valkyn is still an instant, unavoidable proc when all the others have been nerfed

Exactly, Valkyn Skoria should be included in that it should definitely have a delay to activation when procced at the very least.

Anne_Firehawk

Kronuxx wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

im just curious why valkyn is still an instant, unavoidable proc when all the others have been nerfed

Exactly, Valkyn Skoria should be included in that it should definitely have a delay to activation when procced at the very least.

It does have a roughly 2 second delay with a sound indicator. You can block it, you can cloak it, it's bound to DoTs and not ANY damage. It's fine.

Neoauspex

Dang it now I need somebody to tell me if War Maiden is better than Spinners. I need a PvP dedicated @Asayre

olsborg

BraidasNM wrote: »

im just curious why valkyn is still an instant, unavoidable proc when all the others have been nerfed

Yes, this is still a big ? for me too.

Merlin13KAGL

Docmandu wrote: »

The shield expert change makes sense... only thing I still wonder about is why the frost staff only gives 30% block cost reduction, while 1h/s gives 36%...

'Cause one's a stick and the other involves an actual shield?

(This coming from one who runs staves on about half my alts...) They shouldn't be equivalent.

Glory

Would have liked to see skill balance changes as well.

There are skills that are significantly over-performing, and many that are under-performing to the point of never being used in any competitive environment. Not going to list (as it is often opinionated), but I am sure many would like to see the devs look into these!

JDC1985

Vercingetorix wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

im just curious why valkyn is still an instant, unavoidable proc when all the others have been nerfed

Valkyn Skoria is not instant - it's delayed with a telegraphed rumble/noise as it gets ready to impact. One can easily ward up in response to the proc. If YOU have problems with Skoria, then that's YOUR problem. L2P and stop crying.
Nerfing something doesn't improve your gameplay - it just means you'll lose to something else.

Dude these people need told the truth just like you laid it down all this crying about this or that. Also how is someone dying to skoria I mean good god that set isnt even that good its very much a l2p issue.

DHale

Dungeon monsters and bosses were complaining that tanks had too much health. So the nerfs to plague doctor and green pact were needed to keep balance... makes total sense. As for the nerfs well I have come to expect if someone likes any gear.... it will get nerfed.

Septimus_Magna

Neoauspex wrote: »

Dang it now I need somebody to tell me if War Maiden is better than Spinners. I need a PvP dedicated @Asayre

It highly depends on which class and build you're using and who you're fighting.

Xvorg

DDuke

Glory wrote: »

Would have liked to see skill balance changes as well.

There are skills that are significantly over-performing, and many that are under-performing to the point of never being used in any competitive environment. Not going to list (as it is often opinionated), but I am sure many would like to see the devs look into these!

I can list a couple obvious ones that most can (I think) agree on:

• Igneous Weapons
• Agony & morphs
• Power Extraction
• Consuming Darkness & morphs
• Dark Shades
• Blur & morphs
• Bound Aegis
• Healing Ritual & morphs
• Nature's Grasp & morphs
• Arctic Wind & morphs
• Frozen Gate & morphs
• Force Siphon & morphs
• Immovable & morphs
• Soul Trap & morphs
• Circle of Protection & morphs
• Expert Hunter & morphs
• Blood Altar & morphs
• Revealing Flare & morphs

...sorry, got a bit carried away.

GreenSoup2HoT

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Item Sets

• Plague Doctor: Decreased the Max Health granted by this Item Set to 4000 from 6000.

Why was this set even touched? Seriously zos you baffle me. For once i make a unique build utilising this set as a dps/bruiser type build in pvp and it gets nerfed.... go figure.

How can raw max health stat's even compare to anything else? This set isn't even used by tanks anymore for pve. It was only a health boon for niche health builds in pvp or to add an insurance policy from burst on a squishy build. You gain next to nothing... just more health.

2k health is a lot of health gone. Consider that im an Imperial with 3 shadow abilities slotted as a nightblade. That's 2420 total health im loosing now for no reason.

On-top of all this Necropotence still has 4000 max magicka. HOW CAN 4K HEALTH EVEN COMPARE TO 4K MAGICKA.

REVERT THIS.

Neoauspex

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Dang it now I need somebody to tell me if War Maiden is better than Spinners. I need a PvP dedicated @Asayre

It highly depends on which class and build you're using and who you're fighting.

A. Magplar.
B. Zergs.

Vercingetorix

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

im just curious why valkyn is still an instant, unavoidable proc when all the others have been nerfed

Valkyn Skoria is not instant - it's delayed with a telegraphed rumble/noise as it gets ready to impact. One can easily ward up in response to the proc. If YOU have problems with Skoria, then that's YOUR problem. L2P and stop crying.
Nerfing something doesn't improve your gameplay - it just means you'll lose to something else.

You mean learn to play magicka since this proc removes counterplay from medium armor builds like so many other things in this game.

If you are using medium armor, then you shouldn't even be getting attacked by Skoria in the first place. Medium means you are ambushing your opponent form stealth - that is, your opponent isn't going to be fighting for very long if at all. Nerfing an armor set because you foolishly engage an enemy out in the open without cover or a group to support you is ridiculous.

The counterplay to ANYTHING while wearing medium armor is to simply not get hit: Dodge, Gank, or Die - make your choice.

Saturn

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

New homes:

• Linchal Grand Manor: This imposing estate in the Nibenese style was originally built as the summer manor of an Imperial City nobleman, now sadly deceased. Gardens with statues and a reflecting pool surround the stately walled mansion. Sumptuous!
  • This home will only be available for purchase with crowns once it goes live.

I'm really not a fan of houses not being purchaseable with gold. I think that the people who will spend crowns on them would still proceed to do so regardless, but having houses be available with gold, especially the really expensive ones, gives players something to work towards and also seems less exploitive of the playerbase. I don't like how much focus there always is on the crown store, since it definitely takes away from the game itself, when so many things that could have been rewards become instantly obtainable with real money.
This concern also extends towards the Bloodroot Forge skin, which I'm guessing would have been a reward for the Bloodroot Forge Challenger achievement, but was instead put in the store. It also happens to be the better-looking of the two skins themed with the dungeons.
Similarly the only mounts obtainable through playing the game normally are simply just the stable horses that have been there since launch in 2014.
Obviously Zenimax will continue business as usual, but it has become a very tiring reality for sure and you would hope creators have some pride in their work, or at least enough to put quality before money.
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Derra

marcelkrabbeb16_ESO wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Raghul wrote: »

i don't get the nerf to spriggan and spinners, those sets weren't even overperforming

They were arguably the highest dmg sets you could equip. Most likely they still are.

Wait, which patch do you play? They're not even close to being meta.

Just because people make dumb decisions based on their gutfeeling does not change that spinner provides more dmg than necro/warmaiden/bsw (the only requirement being enough basedmg) or other dmg sets when hitting targets with more resistances than you´re piercing.

DDuke

Vercingetorix wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

BraidasNM wrote: »

im just curious why valkyn is still an instant, unavoidable proc when all the others have been nerfed

Valkyn Skoria is not instant - it's delayed with a telegraphed rumble/noise as it gets ready to impact. One can easily ward up in response to the proc. If YOU have problems with Skoria, then that's YOUR problem. L2P and stop crying.
Nerfing something doesn't improve your gameplay - it just means you'll lose to something else.

You mean learn to play magicka since this proc removes counterplay from medium armor builds like so many other things in this game.

If you are using medium armor, then you shouldn't even be getting attacked by Skoria in the first place. Medium means you are ambushing your opponent form stealth - that is, your opponent isn't going to be fighting for very long if at all. Nerfing an armor set because you foolishly engage an enemy out in the open without cover or a group to support you is ridiculous.

The counterplay to ANYTHING while wearing medium armor is to simply not get hit: Dodge, Gank, or Die - make your choice.

I don't personally think Skoria is bad enough to warrant any changes (there is a warning cue to it - you block for 0,5s & carry on), but why do you think medium users shouldn't be engaging enemies out in the open, while anyone else can? Why should I require "cover" or group support (neither of which are available in a duel scenario for instance) to compete with other builds?

The counterplay to ANYTHING while wearing medium armor is to simply not get hit: Dodge, Gank, or Die - make your choice.

There's the problem with medium armor - you can't avoid getting hit by the hard hitting stuff anymore.

People used to complain even when it was mainly just jesus beam & DoTs going through dodge roll, these days it's over half the skills out there.

Grumble_and_Grunt

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Item Sets

• Plague Doctor: Decreased the Max Health granted by this Item Set to 4000 from 6000.

Why was this set even touched? Seriously zos you baffle me. For once i make a unique build utilising this set as a dps/bruiser type build in pvp and it gets nerfed.... go figure.

How can raw max health stat's even compare to anything else? This set isn't even used by tanks anymore for pve. It was only a health boon for niche health builds in pvp or to add an insurance policy from burst on a squishy build. You gain no damage, healing or anything... just more health.

2k health is a lot of health gone. Consider that im an Imperial with 3 shadow abilities slotted as a nightblade. That's 2420 total health im loosing now for no reason.

On-top of all this Necropotence still has 4000 max magicka. HOW CAN 4K HEALTH EVEN COMPARE TO 4K MAGICKA.

REVERT THIS.

It's not niche at all when all aoe destro ball groups realised you can just stack health bonuses and layer up storms to compensate and run around as 30k health VD bombers to plague cyrodiil

Mojmir

nerfed spinners/spriggans because they were easier to obtain,go run them trials for TFS lol.