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Blood-Forged Skin pulled from Bloodroot Forge

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You may ask how I know this.

For one, there's a Locked square in Collectibles. This usually only occurs for Collectibles obtainable outside the Crown Store.

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For two, one of the descriptions in the Crown Store for Horns of the Reach makes explicit mention of this skin.

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This leads me to believe the Blood-Forged skin was pulled from the Bloodroot Challenger achievement at the last moment and replaced with a mediocre hat. Not only is this shady, it's underselling a marked achievement.

You're better than this, ZOS.
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  • Cinbri
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    Sadly, it seems they decided to pull out skin and sell it for crowns, as it was datamined.
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  • Tyrion87
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    Soon, after completing the DLC-dungeon challenger achievement, we will be getting nothing but the opportunity to buy the skin (or something else) from the crown store...

    And ZOS, your explanations from the last ESO Live of how you'd want us to be able to wear two collectibles from these two dungeons (skin and hat) at the same time are pretty lame.
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    This issue deserves more attention. Anyway, I think what happened was that they were originally going to sell the Shaman skin and let us earn the Blood-forged skin. And then they reversed it.

    Why do I think this?

    First, as your screenshot shows, the promotional text says "costume and skin" (not "skins"), and it names the Blood-forged skin with no mention of the Shaman skin. So it was probably going to be just the hat and the Blood-forged skin.

    Second, before earning the skin, this is what my skins tab looks like:
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    Note that it shows the Blood-forged skin, but as locked, which suggests that Blood-forged is supposed to be unlockable via gameplay. Note also that the Shaman skin is not shown.

    After I earned the Shaman skin on the PTS, this is what the screen looks like:
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    Note now that the Shaman skin was added as an entirely new entry, instead of an existing locked entry being unlocked. This suggests that maybe the Shaman skin was going to be Crown Store originally?

    So my guess is that they reversed the two. Why? Maybe because the Shaman skin is hideous. I can't imagine myself ever wearing it. So they decided to put the better-looking one in the Crown Store. (Plus, that hat makes more sense as a reward from Falkreath than from Bloodroot.)

    In any case, it's extremely disappointing that they're making a cool skin like that a Crown Store purchase instead of something achievable in-game. And left the achievement hunters with the scraps. Very, very disappointed with the direction that was taken here.

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    Edited by code65536 on July 12, 2017 2:12PM
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  • Apherius
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    so .. pugs ... or new players ... will be able to wear this awesome skin ? Whether they buy the dlc or not ... horrible ...
    Edited by Apherius on July 12, 2017 2:15PM
  • Magdalina
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    Yuck. Achievement associated skins was/is an awesome idea, putting clearly achievement associated skin in crown store is awful and insulting to all the players who will complete these dungeons' challenges - yet won't have the skin, unlike some level 6 rich kids who will.

    Please sell OTHER skins in crown store. I'm sure there're heaps of skins you can come up with, no need to shove achievement associated ones in there.
    Edited by Magdalina on July 12, 2017 4:24PM
  • LadyNalcarya
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    Yuck. Achievement associated skins was/is an awesome idea, putting clearly achievement associated skin in crown store is awful and insulting to all the players who will complete these dungeons' challenges - yet won't have the skin, unlike some level 6 rich kids who will.

    Please sell OTHER skins in crown store. I'm sure there're heaps of skins you can come up with, no need to shove achievement associates ones in there.

    I agree.
    And they dont even have to design a new skin, they could just sell a "skin" that hides vampirism :)
    Im sure many players would buy it.
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    If this is true then it's really sad...
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  • code65536
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    Yuck. Achievement associated skins was/is an awesome idea, putting clearly achievement associated skin in crown store is awful and insulting to all the players who will complete these dungeons' challenges - yet won't have the skin, unlike some level 6 rich kids who will.

    Please sell OTHER skins in crown store. I'm sure there're heaps of skins you can come up with, no need to shove achievement associates ones in there.

    I agree.
    And they dont even have to design a new skin, they could just sell a "skin" that hides vampirism :)
    Im sure many players would buy it.

    <offtopic> Or, better yet, don't change the character appearance when someone is a vampire but instead unlock a vampirism skin that the character can use when they become a vampire. </offtopic>
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    Coming in September: Dro'm-athra skin for only 8K crowns. Those who beat vMoL will get a striped ogre skin instead.
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  • Robby94
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    I seen this and thought the same, it appears dlc costumes,skins and item are being cut out and sold in the crown store instead of being included with dlc and eso plus, remember the amount of collectibles that came with imperial city, orsinium. You got skins, pets and costumes

    Do zos think people are blind? Atleast have the decency to admit they changed their policy on whats included in their dlcs. I love the game but its hard to ignore its money grabbing tactics.
  • Aliyavana
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    The shaman skin is *** ugly... this bloodforge skin deserves to be earned as a In-game achievement and not with your wallet
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    Yuck. Achievement associated skins was/is an awesome idea, putting clearly achievement associated skin in crown store is awful and insulting to all the players who will complete these dungeons' challenges - yet won't have the skin, unlike some level 6 rich kids who will.

    Please sell OTHER skins in crown store. I'm sure there're heaps of skins you can come up with, no need to shove achievement associates ones in there.

    I agree.
    And they dont even have to design a new skin, they could just sell a "skin" that hides vampirism :)
    Im sure many players would buy it.

    <offtopic> Or, better yet, don't change the character appearance when someone is a vampire but instead unlock a vampirism skin that the character can use when they become a vampire. </offtopic>

    If Verandis can do it I want to too ):

    This ... makes sense from a business standpoint as it's clearly the more appealing of the two skins, but it still sucks that it was clearly designed for the Bloodroot Forge Challenger achievement. And as someone who hides her helmet 90% of the time... pppprobably never gonna wear the hat.

    Also with Morrowind we got a pet, multiple costumes, tattoos, a skin, and a personality, so that's not a valid argument. They cut out this skin, but I don't think they're moving collectibles out of the DLCs entirely.

    I'd really like it if this was reconsidered, although I highly, highly doubt it will be. How about a compromise of one skin per dungeon and the hat as a reward for completing both like the Necrotic Hoarvor was for IC? That way you could show that you conquered both, and be able to show the skin of your choice.

    ... Please?

    Edited by rhapsodious on July 12, 2017 5:25PM
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    Remember when cosmetics attached to a DLC were just part of the purchase price of the DLC?
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  • QuebraRegra
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    Yuck. Achievement associated skins was/is an awesome idea, putting clearly achievement associated skin in crown store is awful and insulting to all the players who will complete these dungeons' challenges - yet won't have the skin, unlike some level 6 rich kids who will.

    Please sell OTHER skins in crown store. I'm sure there're heaps of skins you can come up with, no need to shove achievement associates ones in there.

    I agree.
    And they dont even have to design a new skin, they could just sell a "skin" that hides vampirism :)
    Im sure many players would buy it.

    I don't need it, but it should be an option. More appropriately a "skin" unlocks at reaching "master vampire" rank perhaps?
  • code65536
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    For reference, this is the skin that we can earn in-game. It's... disappointing.
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  • Faulgor
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    Audens wrote: »
    a mediocre hat

    Hey now, that hat is bloody fantastic.
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    Trial-themed mounts have been crown purchases since last year. This isn't a new direction.
    Last year both skins were included with the DLC achievements, this year one is... next year neither? Right?
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    code65536 wrote: »
    For reference, this is the skin that we can earn in-game. It's... disappointing.
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    Can you make a small male bosmer with the wedding suit and that skin?
    Edited by Aliyavana on July 12, 2017 6:33PM
  • rhapsodious
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    code65536 wrote: »
    For reference, this is the skin that we can earn in-game. It's... disappointing.

    Splotchy feet! Why are they continuing splotchy skins! raaaaaaaaugh

    I like the tattoos, but the ... skin texture? could be a little less rough. If it was smooth, I think I'd like it a lot more.
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    Apherius wrote: »
    so .. pugs ... or new players ... will be able to wear this awesome skin ? Whether they buy the dlc or not ... horrible ...
    If you're that insecure and really need to show off your e-peen, just could just wear the titles. I have the other skins and I don't even wear them 'cuz 1. I have nothing to prove and 2. Most of them are ugly. ZOS can put them all in the crown store for all I care.

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    Edited by Leogon on July 13, 2017 3:26PM
  • Asardes
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    People wear skins precisely because the want to show off a difficult achievement. And costumes because some of the dropped gear looks as if it was picked from a dumpster, even when made legendary and dyed. Paying 2K crown for a skin or whatever they will sell it for is lame.
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    And here I've been since beta, just waiting for another in-game mount...

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    aliyavana wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    For reference, this is the skin that we can earn in-game. It's... disappointing.
    1BOrmIO.png

    Can you make a small male bosmer with the wedding suit and that skin?

    I heard tiny and adorable is the new thing in town ;)
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    aliyavana wrote: »
    Can you make a small male bosmer with the wedding suit and that skin?

    Here's the skin on my stamblade:
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  • Caff32
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    Yeah that skin is horrible and a total rip off of this guy:
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    I think 1st they wanted to give us 1 different skin for completing different dungeon. Blood forged was supposed to be reward for Bloofroot Forge and Dreahorn Shaman Skin for completing Falkhreth Hold but they said on last Eso Live that they want people to be able to show that they completed both dungeons so there will be one skin and one hat so You can wear rewards for completing both dungeons in the same time and show this to the world. So I assume they just tooked Blood Forged skin and replaced it with hat for that reasons because Blood Forged looks better so it'll gain more money in crown store then shaman one.
  • Robby94
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    Also if you look at the datamined crown store items that hat looks like it was part of a set, theres a similar one in there.
    Naturally the skin would sell better than the hat so they swapped them.
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    Love they are alternating skins for the crown store and in game trophies.

    So that one you actually want you can buy one that you would wear.
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    Leogon wrote: »
    Apherius wrote: »
    so .. pugs ... or new players ... will be able to wear this awesome skin ? Whether they buy the dlc or not ... horrible ...
    If you're that insecure and really need to show off your e-peen, just could just wear the titles. I have the other skins and I don't even wear them 'cuz 1. I have nothing to prove and 2. Most of them are ugly. ZOS could put them all in the crown store for all I care.

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    Exactly. I don't understand why people care so much about what others have and if they actually earned them or not. I feel the crown store is actually lacking skins. The game should have a balance of earned and purchased collectibles to cater to everyone.
  • Aliyavana
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    code65536 wrote: »
    aliyavana wrote: »
    Can you make a small male bosmer with the wedding suit and that skin?

    Here's the skin on my stamblade:
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    He looks like he wants to play a lil game
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