Maintenance for the week of December 16:
• [COMPLETE] NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• [COMPLETE] EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)

Early Acess

  • LeightonKaridian
    LeightonKaridian
    ✭✭✭
    alceleniel wrote: »
    Linaleah wrote: »
    so on a whim I tried internet explorer, which i never use otherwise (typicaly, I use chrome) and THAT worked. so this seems to be a browser issue. ugg. I really REALLY dislike IE

    Had the same issue with Vivaldi (which is based on Chrome) but with Edge it worked.

    Same here! Edge(I feel dirty) worked for me!

    See you in Morrowind sooner than expected!
    “Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real.” - Jules Verne
  • Rosveen
    Rosveen
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    Please note that if you do not apply the code included with your physical PC/Mac ESO: Morrowind Collector's Edition within two days of launch, we will send an email alerting you that you will lose access to ESO: Morrowind content within 24 hours. So be sure to apply the code as soon as you pick up your copy!

    So, I did pre-order a box with a dwemer robot from Game.co.uk. As I understand it, the code will be on some sticker in the box. However, what happens if the box is not delivered to me in 2 days of launch, or if I'm not at home, and cannot open it to redeem the code?

    I mean, srsly?..
    Yeah, it's quite a short window - perhaps too short - but it's understandable they want to quickly remove access from people who cancelled their pre-orders. If any longer delay happens, you'll just be locked out of Vvardenfell until you can apply the code.
    Edited by Rosveen on May 11, 2017 8:48PM
  • deathbyk1te
    deathbyk1te
    ✭✭✭
    [
    Couldn't imagine the PC rage if this early access was for Console.

    Not saying it would be you, just saying in general.

    Easy to call people out when PC is the one getting it and not console. I really wished I could see this forum if they announced console got it first.

    I remember all the butthurt from PC players when they announced the game was being made for Xbone and PS4. Some funny stuff when they announced that.

    For this update I would gladly let console get early access. I'd have more time to play the current patch and get certain things done before I go back to the drawing board on my stamblade.
    @deathbyk1te

    Dani Ackerman- DD- Redguard NB [EP]
    Leona Chosen of the Sun- Tank-Imperial DK [EP]
    Diana Avatar of the Moon- DD- Nord Templar [EP]
    Fate T Harlaown- DD- Imperial Sorc [EP]
    Kha Zix Talons- Healer-Argonian Templar [EP]
  • LadyDestiny
    LadyDestiny
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....
  • Korah_Eaglecry
    Korah_Eaglecry
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.
    Edited by Korah_Eaglecry on May 11, 2017 11:33PM
    Penniless Sellsword Company
    Captain Paramount - Jorrhaq Vhent
    Korith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the Grimjawl
    Tenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'Les
    Aban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia Severinus
    What is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax
  • ManwithBeard9
    ManwithBeard9
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    But that would only matter if Player X and Y bought the Morrowind on the platform. If they didnt, its not the same product.
  • Korah_Eaglecry
    Korah_Eaglecry
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    But that would only matter if Player X and Y bought the Morrowind on the platform. If they didnt, its not the same product.

    Its exactly the same product. I can log into ESO right now on PS4 and play the exact same content that a PC player is able to experience. There is nothing objectively different between the two besides UI.
    Penniless Sellsword Company
    Captain Paramount - Jorrhaq Vhent
    Korith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the Grimjawl
    Tenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'Les
    Aban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia Severinus
    What is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax
  • ManwithBeard9
    ManwithBeard9
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    But that would only matter if Player X and Y bought the Morrowind on the platform. If they didnt, its not the same product.

    Its exactly the same product. I can log into ESO right now on PS4 and play the exact same content that a PC player is able to experience. There is nothing objectively different between the two besides UI.

    So I can play on both consoles with my PC copy? No? i cant, because its not the same product. I have to buy a different product for each platform.
  • Ojustaboo
    Ojustaboo
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    WeyounTM wrote: »
    jALYM.gif


    ZOS can't do anything right in the eyes of some people....

    "Here...you get to play Morrowind earlier....enjoy"
    "Waaaaah....that wasn't the deal i signed up for...."

    Seriously, I feel for everybody working at ZOS....especially the community managers who have to cope with this kind of BS for a living. Gina, Jessica, Kai....keep your heads up. You are doing a great job for most of the players. While some people love to rage on the forums for whatever "FOTM"-reason....a lot of people enjoy playing your game. THX everyone @ZOS. I mean it...

    Wonders if you've been in beta or on the pts?

    Reason I ask, I'm a PC player,

    People get different thrills out of different things within an mmo. Some enjoy fishing some hate it, others like to try to be top of leaderboards others try to be first to compete new content.

    While I couldn't give a dam if I'm the last person to complete it, I understand those playing on the console that do want to do this. I also (from the amount of problems console players seem to be having) understand those who feel this is kind of another kick in the teeth to them, no matter how trivial PC users getting it two weeks early might seem to you or me.

    Two things get to me with this.

    1) To me, it is very very very obvious that by Zos announcing this, it would cause the kind of uproar it seems to be causing, none of us expected it before June, so why didn't they simply leave it like that for everyone.

    2) However, my main concern (and why I asked if you had played pts) is that in my and many other peoples opinion it is in no fit state to be released. If anything they should have said they needed an extra month to get balancing and bugs sorted, NOT bring the release date forward.

    The initial ESO release nearly killed the game (and I think is probably the reason Eso ended up going in the direction it has gone in compared to what we were promised we would be getting in the run up to release). Person after person warned them it wasn't ready for release, but they were ignored, many wondered why they bothered bug reporting at all as so many of the bugs reported for weeks and sometimes months, ended up ruining peoples play when ESO went live.

    I really really hope they don't make the same mistake again, I say that as someone who loves the game, sub's and will continue to sub even (and I mean 'even') after the 22nd.

    You think people are making a fuss now.
  • Ojustaboo
    Ojustaboo
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Avalon wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    Avalon wrote: »
    JKorr wrote: »
    Peekachu99 wrote: »
    JKorr wrote: »
    Yeah most of these console players believe that you should get 2 birthdays a year or something just because one person gets something 2 weeks earlier doesn't mean they'll get it again later.

    Couldn't imagine the PC rage if this early access was for Console.

    Not saying it would be you, just saying in general.

    Easy to call people out when PC is the one getting it and not console. I really wished I could see this forum if they announced console got it first.

    I remember all the butthurt from PC players when they announced the game was being made for Xbone and PS4. Some funny stuff when they announced that.

    You mean like the first two dlc for Skyrim and at least one for Fallout3 were released a month early for consoles and pc players had to wait? Granted, that was Bethesda publishing, but it has happened before.

    I was hoping the game would remain pc only. No console limitations to take into account, or outrage that a subscription was required. Would be interesting to see what the game would have been if it had remained pc only.

    It would be dead, or actually Pay to Win, since by ZoS's latest PR on the issue, the platforms were an almost even split. So that's 2/3 of the revenue down the toilet.

    This whole: consoles are garbage, their community is crap/ young/ dumb/ whatever needs to stop. Console players have contributed more than their fair share to this game. Last year's ESA report actually puts most console gamers in their thirties, so these are people with jobs, responsiblities and higher than average disposable income--the ones ZoS should be catering to.

    https://www.polygon.com/2016/4/29/11539102/gaming-stats-2016-esa-essential-facts

    Or possibly settled into a niche game market, with a smaller but stable player base. Who knows? After the bad experiences with xbox and ps3/4 for other Bethesda published games, I don't know why anyone thought bringing this game to consoles would be different. But they did, and only delayed the console release for a year due to issues getting the game to work, and certification fun. Would have been interesting to see what content they could have released if they hadn't been working on the console versions. :shrug:

    As for the relative ages of console users; I can accept the idea that there are some out there who are older, mature, responsible adults. Going by how some console users post here, I don't know how many of the older mature ones actually play ESO however. The "We deserve compensation/crown crates because the pc is getting Morrowind early and console users aren't" is kind of a case in point. Although I grant you there are less than mature players on all the platforms.

    Wow... so, expectations of equal treatment for paying the same amount is immature, and willingness to bend over and apathetically accept being screwed is a sign of maturity? I'm glad I missed THAT bus... I am 40 years old, and not once in my life, for ME or for anyone else, have I been one to sit on the sidelines and accept anyone being screwed, and I definitely don't treat others that way, even if it is to my own detriment. If something is only worth a specific price, I sell it for that price (and I don't mean the ridiculous pawn broker prices listed on items). That carries over into RL, too.

    I only expect ZOS to do what is ethically right. If two, or three or more, groups of people buy an advertised product under the listed descriptions, and they LATER change that for any portion of the customers, they are OBLIGATED under law (assuming they refuse to do it under their own good nature) to fix it so that ALL parties are treated equally and fairly.

    You can continue to just bend over and take it, but that is YOUR choice, don't start bringing maturity into this, because it isn't like we are playing for free, get this for free, and we expect more. WE PAID MONEY FOR A PRODUCT, and that product changed AFTER we paid, but only for some, they need to own up and make it fair for ALL. That isn't immature 'entitlement', that is fairness and equality in business and marketing practices.

    But we have not bought the same product. ESO:Morrowind for PC and ESO: Morrowind for PS4 or Xbox are all different products. You can't play on PC if you've bought a PS4 version and vice versa. It doesn't matter if we pay the same amount.

    People who bought ESO: Morrowind for PC all got early access. And all who bought for PS4/Xbox didn't. Noone is breaking your rights and any laws here.

    They are different products.

    No, they really aren't. Other than platform, they were advertised with the exact same benefits and package details. Literally, the only difference between the packages, was platform. You cannot change the package details after purchases, unless it is across the board, or at least impartial as best as can be done. The least that should happen is ZOS attempting to make it up somehow, the worst I could see is ZOS losing a ton of customers, and maybe some form of legal action. Pretty sure they would win, as well, there are so many petty lawsuits out there that win, I could see this, which has justification behind it, going pretty far. And, yeah, some players that are jaded and just willingly take whatever screwing happens along, they might ignore it... but, I have yet to find a single person in-game that wasn't immediately upset over this. All I have to tell them is, "PC is getting early access on May 22nd." and they launch into how much BS that is. It is bad business, bad ethics, and if not completely illegal, at the very least PUSHING the boundaries enough that any court would be against it.

    As long as they are giving you what they said they would they have done nothing illegal.

    Doesn't matter if they decide to give PC users 1000000 crowns, console players still got what they paid for.

    That's without the fact that if your not happy, you can cancel your preorder.

    I'm with you that they should have kept the dates the same, but your issues on the legality is in my opinion wrong.

    While I live under EU law and I presume you are in the USA, are you telling me that every person in the USA that goes into say a national car dealership, and buys the same car, pays the same, or doesn't negotiate more extras than another customer?
    The adverts and list prices for them would have been the same for everyone.

    If they had taken your money then given you less than was offered to you, and they didn't let you pull out of the deal, then sure, legality would come into it, but you have got exactly what they offered you (and as say a PS4 user reading the ad, while the ad might have included the other two platforms, the PS4 user isn't paying for what's offered to a PC user, they are simp!y paying for what is being advertised for their platform)

    Again you have my sympathies

    Edited by Ojustaboo on May 12, 2017 12:42AM
  • Korah_Eaglecry
    Korah_Eaglecry
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    But that would only matter if Player X and Y bought the Morrowind on the platform. If they didnt, its not the same product.

    Its exactly the same product. I can log into ESO right now on PS4 and play the exact same content that a PC player is able to experience. There is nothing objectively different between the two besides UI.

    So I can play on both consoles with my PC copy? No? i cant, because its not the same product. I have to buy a different product for each platform.

    So youre claiming that the game Im playing on PS4 is not ESO but infact something else? You can sit here and try and twist this into alternative facts and what not all you want. But at the end of the day its the same game. Youre basically claiming that a book written in english is not the same book thats been translated into spanish.
    Edited by Korah_Eaglecry on May 12, 2017 1:09AM
    Penniless Sellsword Company
    Captain Paramount - Jorrhaq Vhent
    Korith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the Grimjawl
    Tenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'Les
    Aban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia Severinus
    What is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax
  • TheRealPotoroo
    TheRealPotoroo
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm excited about Early Access but I wish to God ZoS would give us some clue about how big the download is going to be. Those of us with bandwidth quotas to manage have to plan for very large downloads, which Morrowind could well be.
    PC NA, PC EU

    "Instead of taking the best of the dolmens (predictable rotation), the best of the geysers (scalability based on number of players), and the best of the dragons (map location and health indicators) and adding them together to make a fun and dynamic world event scenario, they gave us....... harrowstorms." https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6850523/#Comment_6850523
  • AzraelKrieg
    AzraelKrieg
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    I'm excited about Early Access but I wish to God ZoS would give us some clue about how big the download is going to be. Those of us with bandwidth quotas to manage have to plan for very large downloads, which Morrowind could well be.

    Judging from the initial PTS patch, you'd be looking at around 9GB
    Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+
    Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 50
  • LadyDestiny
    LadyDestiny
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    When I own both editions, but not crying over spilled milk, I guess I can take the high road and leave you to wallow in your own misery. I have the opportunity to get early access, but it matters not. I am mature enough to know not all things in life are fair. I am not going to throw a temper tantrum because Zos is so mean to us console players. Yes it is the same game, but controlled by different entities. Another reason why we don't have mods on console. Maybe you are just angry because I am not? Sorry to dissapoint you. If anything, they need to fix this game before adding new content. I could care less about the dlc adding more bugs and problems when the existing game doesn't work.
  • Nifty2g
    Nifty2g
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Early access last minute announcement
    Rich and Eric going on ESO Live to talk about changes to game mechanics (I'm assuming a lot of sustain is coming back)

    I wonder how many pre-orders ZOS actually lost for them to do this, I wonder if it's tied together. If it is and Pre-orders got cancelled and the devs are doing some changes for the community, all I can say is well done for getting them to bite the bullet. Though I'm just speculating.
    #MOREORBS
  • DRXHarbinger
    DRXHarbinger
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Early access last minute announcement
    Rich and Eric going on ESO Live to talk about changes to game mechanics (I'm assuming a lot of sustain is coming back)

    I wonder how many pre-orders ZOS actually lost for them to do this, I wonder if it's tied together. If it is and Pre-orders got cancelled and the devs are doing some changes for the community, all I can say is well done for getting them to bite the bullet. Though I'm just speculating.

    You are right. There some motive behind this and not just because "it's ready so treats on us" something unexpected it going to drop.
    PC Master Race

    1001CP
    8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
    Tamriel Hero
    Grand Overlord
    Every Skyshard
    Down With BOP!
  • Aquanova
    Aquanova
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I cancelled my pre ordered physical copy after reading the announcement and bought the digital. I'm all for early access.

    Well done ZOS. Let's not waste anymore time. If this is to be my final ESO purchase then I'd like it to be ASAP.

    Won't be my last if patch notes look good ;)
    NA/PC
  • Sargentwilko51
    Sargentwilko51
    ✭✭✭
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Early access last minute announcement
    Rich and Eric going on ESO Live to talk about changes to game mechanics (I'm assuming a lot of sustain is coming back)

    I wonder how many pre-orders ZOS actually lost for them to do this, I wonder if it's tied together. If it is and Pre-orders got cancelled and the devs are doing some changes for the community, all I can say is well done for getting them to bite the bullet. Though I'm just speculating.

    I said the same thing but that makes me a conspiracy theorist...

    ZOS to offer 'Early Access' to Morrowind

    We have decided to allow early access to anyone on PC that has pre-ordered the Morrowind Chapter
    Developer Comment
    This is a buff if you play on console as you will continue to be able to have fast paced combat until the stated release. This is a nerf for those on PC as we need to roll out Heavy Attacks Online ASAP
    Edited by Sargentwilko51 on May 12, 2017 2:37PM
  • Nifty2g
    Nifty2g
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Talvorian wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Early access last minute announcement
    Rich and Eric going on ESO Live to talk about changes to game mechanics (I'm assuming a lot of sustain is coming back)

    I wonder how many pre-orders ZOS actually lost for them to do this, I wonder if it's tied together. If it is and Pre-orders got cancelled and the devs are doing some changes for the community, all I can say is well done for getting them to bite the bullet. Though I'm just speculating.

    I said the same thing but that makes me a conspiracy theorist...

    ZOS to offer 'Early Access' to Morrowind

    We have decided to allow early access to anyone on PC that has pre-ordered the Morrowind Chapter
    Developer Comment
    This is a buff if you play on console as you will continue to be able to have face paced combat until the stated release. This is a nerf for those on PC as we need to roll out Heavy Attacks Online ASAP
    I mean depending what happens on the show tonight is what will give you the answers, if there are some changes, just tell people to read through the lines cause it's pretty obvious what they are doing if they make some sustain changes
    #MOREORBS
  • Korah_Eaglecry
    Korah_Eaglecry
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    When I own both editions, but not crying over spilled milk, I guess I can take the high road and leave you to wallow in your own misery. I have the opportunity to get early access, but it matters not. I am mature enough to know not all things in life are fair. I am not going to throw a temper tantrum because Zos is so mean to us console players. Yes it is the same game, but controlled by different entities. Another reason why we don't have mods on console. Maybe you are just angry because I am not? Sorry to dissapoint you. If anything, they need to fix this game before adding new content. I could care less about the dlc adding more bugs and problems when the existing game doesn't work.

    So you were in fact not done with this? What a shocker. For someone thats taking the high road...You seem intent on getting your boots muddy down here with us dregs.

    LMAO where have I claimed that ZOS is being mean to us? This is what Im talking about right here. Youre incapble of having any sort of adult discussion about this. For someone claiming others are being crybabies you seem to struggle with anything that isnt simple and basic black and white concepts. Bad, good, nice and mean.

    And its controlled by different entities? Jesus...Please back out of all of this now. Youre embarrassing yourself. ZOS has complete control over their product. Regardless of it being on PC or Console. Neither Sony or Microsoft have any sort of say or control over what does and does not go into the game. Sony and MS only have say in whether or not a patch is stable enough to go on their systems. As long as the patch doesnt break the PS4 or the XBOne they dont care whats in it. Mods are a whole different topic. They dont prove your point at all.

    For someone thats not angry you seemed quick to jump back in this topic and make a post after claiming you were done with it. For someone that doesnt care about this DLC again...You seem quite intent on sharing your opinions. Not sure you have a full understanding of what "I dont care" actually means here.
    Edited by Korah_Eaglecry on May 12, 2017 2:40PM
    Penniless Sellsword Company
    Captain Paramount - Jorrhaq Vhent
    Korith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the Grimjawl
    Tenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'Les
    Aban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia Severinus
    What is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax
  • ManwithBeard9
    ManwithBeard9
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    When I own both editions, but not crying over spilled milk, I guess I can take the high road and leave you to wallow in your own misery. I have the opportunity to get early access, but it matters not. I am mature enough to know not all things in life are fair. I am not going to throw a temper tantrum because Zos is so mean to us console players. Yes it is the same game, but controlled by different entities. Another reason why we don't have mods on console. Maybe you are just angry because I am not? Sorry to dissapoint you. If anything, they need to fix this game before adding new content. I could care less about the dlc adding more bugs and problems when the existing game doesn't work.

    And its controlled by different entities? Jesus...Please back out of all of this now. Youre embarrassing yourself. ZOS has complete control over their product. Regardless of it being on PC or Console. Neither Sony or Microsoft have any sort of say or control over what does and does not go into the game. Sony and MS only have say in whether or not a patch is stable enough to go on their systems. As long as the patch doesnt break the PS4 or the XBOne they dont care whats in it. Mods are a whole different topic. They dont prove your point at all.

    By having to get certification ZOS fits not have full control over what goes into each patch on console. They have to abide by the guidelines set forth by Sony and Microsoft. If ZOS wanted to add in a scene that either console company found inappropriate out offensive, Sony or Microsoft can tell ZOS to remove it or we won't allow the game on our consoles anymore. ZOS is not steering the boat when it comes to consoles. They must obey the will of the console companies to allow their game to be played on then.
  • nine9six
    nine9six
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kay1 wrote: »
    Just to clarify: All PC players will be getting the base game patch on 5/22. Only those who purchased the Morrowind Digital Upgrade (or Physical CE with the form filled out) will have access to Morrowind on 5/22.

    Why only PC players? Why is this information hidden? You said 20 times Morrowind was coming on June 6 for EVERYONE, another lie? Whao.

    I don't know if you knew about it but a lot of people were excited about Morrowind getting released the same day so there will finally be a war between platforms to achieve the World First clear of the new Trial, PC players already got an advantage because of the PTS and now this, whao you guys just ruined it.

    Can we PLEASE get the LOL button back.
    Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...
  • Cpt_Teemo
    Cpt_Teemo
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    Please note that if you do not apply the code included with your physical PC/Mac ESO: Morrowind Collector's Edition within two days of launch, we will send an email alerting you that you will lose access to ESO: Morrowind content within 24 hours. So be sure to apply the code as soon as you pick up your copy!

    So, I did pre-order a box with a dwemer robot from Game.co.uk. As I understand it, the code will be on some sticker in the box. However, what happens if the box is not delivered to me in 2 days of launch, or if I'm not at home, and cannot open it to redeem the code?

    I mean, srsly?..

    They said you can fill out a form with proof of purchase and copy down the transaction #
  • Cpt_Teemo
    Cpt_Teemo
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    But that would only matter if Player X and Y bought the Morrowind on the platform. If they didnt, its not the same product.

    Its exactly the same product. I can log into ESO right now on PS4 and play the exact same content that a PC player is able to experience. There is nothing objectively different between the two besides UI.

    So I can play on both consoles with my PC copy? No? i cant, because its not the same product. I have to buy a different product for each platform.

    They said you can copy your account only one time ever so whenever you feel is the right time to do so you can
  • ManwithBeard9
    ManwithBeard9
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    But that would only matter if Player X and Y bought the Morrowind on the platform. If they didnt, its not the same product.

    Its exactly the same product. I can log into ESO right now on PS4 and play the exact same content that a PC player is able to experience. There is nothing objectively different between the two besides UI.

    So I can play on both consoles with my PC copy? No? i cant, because its not the same product. I have to buy a different product for each platform.

    They said you can copy your account only one time ever so whenever you feel is the right time to do so you can

    No, you could only transfer your account from PC to a console once, for a limited time. Can't do it any more or ever again.
  • Cpt_Teemo
    Cpt_Teemo
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    But that would only matter if Player X and Y bought the Morrowind on the platform. If they didnt, its not the same product.

    Its exactly the same product. I can log into ESO right now on PS4 and play the exact same content that a PC player is able to experience. There is nothing objectively different between the two besides UI.

    So I can play on both consoles with my PC copy? No? i cant, because its not the same product. I have to buy a different product for each platform.

    They said you can copy your account only one time ever so whenever you feel is the right time to do so you can

    No, you could only transfer your account from PC to a console once, for a limited time. Can't do it any more or ever again.

    Oh weird someone told me they copied it once hm
  • ManwithBeard9
    ManwithBeard9
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    But that would only matter if Player X and Y bought the Morrowind on the platform. If they didnt, its not the same product.

    Its exactly the same product. I can log into ESO right now on PS4 and play the exact same content that a PC player is able to experience. There is nothing objectively different between the two besides UI.

    So I can play on both consoles with my PC copy? No? i cant, because its not the same product. I have to buy a different product for each platform.

    They said you can copy your account only one time ever so whenever you feel is the right time to do so you can

    No, you could only transfer your account from PC to a console once, for a limited time. Can't do it any more or ever again.

    Oh weird someone told me they copied it once hm

    One time only offer when console finally launched, at the cost of $20.
  • Cpt_Teemo
    Cpt_Teemo
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    Why is this such a big deal? I have accounts on both pc and console. Not subbing on console but on xbox and don't care if I wait until june 6th. The only thing I don't want is all the spoilers for two weeks prior to xbox release. Yeah right.....peeps have to tell all...:(
    Cry babies acting like five year olds because they want it now!

    Ah yes. When you disagree with something the easiest thing you can do to wave it off is accuse others of being babies and children. Not even sure why you felt the need to reply to us children if thats how you felt.

    This is changing the deal. Players on both PC and Console bought into the Pre-Orders without the promise or even a hint of an Early Access. Now three short weeks before release they suddenly drop this on us? And we're supposed to be happy about it? I guess in your head, however that brain works, people shouldnt speak up when they arent happy with a company. Feedback is only for praise right? Dont you dare have anything negative to say! You come off as a shill.
    You say that you bought the pre-order without any promise of early access. I don't know why you are complaining about something you never had in the first place. You are not missing out on anything. Somewhere in that head of yours, however your brain works.......you think you are entitled to something that doesn't exist.
    I'm done here as I don't care to make anyone angry or make myself upset over a virtual world. Have a nice day.....

    You didnt pay for a early access either. No one did. Try to keep up buttercup. If Player X and Player Y buy the same product and are promised the same items for the same price. But Company Z then turns around at the last minute and adds early access to Player Xs product free of charge than yes Player Y is missing out on something. I could careless about how you feel about it. Im still confused as to why you felt the need to insert yourself into this discussion if all you were going to do was call people crybabies. Now you want to play as if youre taking the high road. By all means take a hike.

    But that would only matter if Player X and Y bought the Morrowind on the platform. If they didnt, its not the same product.

    Its exactly the same product. I can log into ESO right now on PS4 and play the exact same content that a PC player is able to experience. There is nothing objectively different between the two besides UI.

    So I can play on both consoles with my PC copy? No? i cant, because its not the same product. I have to buy a different product for each platform.

    They said you can copy your account only one time ever so whenever you feel is the right time to do so you can

    No, you could only transfer your account from PC to a console once, for a limited time. Can't do it any more or ever again.

    Oh weird someone told me they copied it once hm

    One time only offer when console finally launched, at the cost of $20.

    Ah ok maybe that's what it was then well that does suck then if you wanted to switch they should atleast let have the decision to transfer your whole account whenever only once still though
Sign In or Register to comment.