(NA) Real and fake 1vXer's and small man's

geonsocal

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nothing is fake - everything everyone is doing is very real.

deep thought...here's another one for you...

Celas_Dranacea

donJay wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Those are the bad players though. They make up for their play with zone spam. Just sayin'

@donJay I guess your assuming that these people spam zone chat when what I mean to say is that they don't spam zone chat with stupid crap, only useful/positive stuff

Also in what I wrote I think I could have made it more clear that I think there are many ways solo players can be "heroes" as well - I.e. Drawing aggro to a resource deep in enemy territory or ganking lanes of travel between keep fights or - yes - even Zerg surfing to help your faction out in large battles

zyk

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Am I a real player? Please let me know OP.

I don't think the OP is calling you out. I think the OP is calling out players who proclaim themselves to be small man or "1vXers", but in reality they surf zergs like most others.

donJay

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Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

donJay wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Those are the bad players though. They make up for their play with zone spam. Just sayin'

@donJay I guess your assuming that these people spam zone chat when what I mean to say is that they don't spam zone chat with stupid crap, only useful/positive stuff

Also in what I wrote I think I could have made it more clear that I think there are many ways solo players can be "heroes" as well - I.e. Drawing aggro to a resource deep in enemy territory or ganking lanes of travel between keep fights or - yes - even Zerg surfing to help your faction out in large battles

Don't think too much into it. I was trolling. I barely play eso as it is. P.S. You're***

CyrusArya

Wanna know real 1vXers from fake ones? Just watch out for who can still pull it off next patch when its ten times harder and people can no longer be carried by extremely powerful and forgiving mechanics.

a_real_dk

ITT:

The way I spend my time is better than the way you spend your time. /flex

No_True_Scotsman

a_real_dk wrote: »

ITT:

The way I spend my time is better than the way you spend your time. /flex

YOUR NAME IS OFFENSIVE I AM REPORTING YOU

Publius_Scipio

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Thank you very much.

geonsocal

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

I always carry 50+ seige with me. I went through 30 ballistas just last night.

that's too funny...i'll die before a leave a siege weapon behind...i don't care if it's a cold fire ballista or flaming oil...i carry bunches of repair kits...sure, i may have just made 20k or so in the last hour of play - but, i ain't losing that 800 AP on having to buy another flaming oil

i hate leaving stuff behind...even in the digital world...

Prince_of_all_Pugs

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

There has been a change in PVP over the last three years in my opinion . It seems to be more impressive to others if you participate in the actual campaigns in Cyrodiil then just show off personal ability . If you are someone that requires validation and or impressing others . The 1 v X crowd seems more twitch and YouTube centric . In the actual game people generally like to win battles . An very few of the good raid and small group players care what someone else thinks of their playstyle as long as they are effective .

@Rohamad_Ali on point as usual.

What definition do I fit in? 50% of the time I'm completely solo generally focused on taking resources to help win the campaign. The other half the time I'm in a 24 man group because I've been asked to be. Not because I need protection.

I always carry 50+ seige with me. I went through 30 ballistas just last night.

I also always look for the most action which, as you would imagine, often involves getting into a Zerg fight.

I can and have 1 v X'd but I actively try not to because fighting outnumbered isn't an intelligent thing to do.

Am I a real player? Please let me know OP.

well since you siege, lol according to my theory, your a real player you carry your weight. fake's dont siege at all, they just stand there and expect the carry.

CatchMeTrolling

Who really cares, it's a large scale game. The e peen player's happen to be way more annoying than the one's doing all the zerging.

Erynyes

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

aka manbearpig

Celas_Dranacea

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Thank you very much.

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Thank you very much.

@Publius_Scipio Is the objection to the leadership comment that you don't like groups in general, or that you don't think leading groups should be included in a definition of what is a "hero of Cyrodil" ?

utb99

Saviour of Cyrodiil:
That Pug CP 346 that rezzes you in the middle of nowhere
The Random Hybrid dude that uses siege repair kits and throws up Siege Shields
The people that actually siege
The people that repair walls and doors
The mans who captures resources
The dude that reports what side of the keep is being sieged
The low levels that capture the towns
The Erotic Roleplayer in Bruma

Waylander

Dyride wrote: »

How do you siege?

If in group designate one guy as the "ram guy". We make it the argonian.

Get "ram guy" to drop a ram at the front door.

You can then AFK and grab a drink or go to the bathroom.

Come back to an open door. Profit.

Soemtimes, you die, but this is war son.

geonsocal

utb99 wrote: »

Saviour of Cyrodiil:
That Pug CP 346 that rezzes you in the middle of nowhere
The Random Hybrid dude that uses siege repair kits and throws up Siege Shields
The people that actually siege
The people that repair walls and doors
The mans who captures resources
The dude that reports what side of the keep is being sieged
The low levels that capture the towns
The Erotic Roleplayer in Bruma

nailed it...

Publius_Scipio

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Thank you very much.

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Thank you very much.

@Publius_Scipio Is the objection to the leadership comment that you don't like groups in general, or that you don't think leading groups should be included in a definition of what is a "hero of Cyrodil" ?

Please have a seat Mr. Dranacea. *points to a chair*

*Celas pulls the chair out and sits down*
*Scipio turns around to a table with liquors and glasses. Without turning around he asks Celas*

Something to drink? Bourbon? Johnnie Walker Blue? Coffee if you'd like.

Celas: Mountain Dew will do if you have it.

*Scipio turns around and looks at Celas puzzled*
*Celas shrugs his shoulders*

Celas: I'm a gamer.

*Scipio shakes his head up and down slowly and turns back around to the liquor table*
*Scipio grabs a Mountain Dew out of the mini fridge and pours a glass of purified water and drops two ice cubes in the shape of a flexed bicep into the glass*
*Scipio is about to pour the Mountain Dew into a glass when Celas interrupts him*

Celas: The can is fine

*Scipio stops as the lip of the can and glass are kissing*
*Scipio turns around walks over to Celas and hands him the can of Mointain Dew and sits down in a chair opposite of Celas*
*Scipio takes a sip of water and begins speaking*

You seem like a man who doesn't beat around the bush, so I will be very blunt. I don't care about zergs, 1vX, 1v1, etc. I care about the COVENANT winning this war. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.... If Royal Reyals and Con Jay want to tear each other limb from limb that's fine by me. I don't care about the elves and I don't care about the Pact. I don't care about any of their "celebrities" or "champions". I don't care about their guilds and all the bull[snip] baggage that comes with it.

*Scipio is interrupted by a rather unexpected and quite violent burp from Celas*

Celas: Ooo. Excuse me. You know, Mountain Dew. *shrugs his shoulders*

*Scipio stares at Celas for a few seconds and then beings speaking again*

One thing matters. The same one thing that has mattered since the dawn of this Akatosh forsaken war. You win the campaign, you win Cyrodiil. One winner, nothing more, and nothing less. The small scale AP farmers don't do jack [snip] for their alliance. The two dueling at the foot of White Fall Mountain aren't doing jack [snip] for their alliance. Maybe the stinkin' giant that makes his home at the summit will one day have a terrible tummy ache and take a huge sh[snip] and it will drop down on the heads of those below.

Doesn't matter to me if it's a single elf at Rayles farm. He has to die. I don't care if Miat, Mizaru, Zergbad (the now) Exterminatored, the boogeyman, and whoever else pop out of the woodwork.... They to have to die. I don't give a cliffracer's leathery sack if at Chalman every Pact and elf guild show up at the same time! The task never changes! Two BLUE BANNERS must be raised and all the red ants and pointy eared folk that pick up TV signals with those ears.... They must all be decimated....

*Scipio downs the rest of the water and stands up*
*Scipio walks over to the still seated Celas and places his right hand on Celas' left shoulder*

I think you see the big picture now. You go ahead and enjoy the rest of that Mountain Dew.

*Scipio pats Celas on the shoulder twice and walks away*

NightbladeMechanics

CyrusArya wrote: »

Wanna know real 1vXers from fake ones? Just watch out for who can still pull it off next patch when its ten times harder and people can no longer be carried by extremely powerful and forgiving mechanics.

^ People been carried by their builds for too long.

Satiar

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

Wanna know real 1vXers from fake ones? Just watch out for who can still pull it off next patch when its ten times harder and people can no longer be carried by extremely powerful and forgiving mechanics.

^ People been carried by their builds for too long.

That's just called "playing an MMO" tho. We are all nothing without good builds.

Rickter

Rickter Small man

• Sieges and takes objectives
• At least 4/10 in the group runs good group builds, uses snares, AOE's, Debuffs, ulti dumps,etc but the group lead doesnt actually request or require any certain skill run. Can kill larger groups if done right but doesnt happen as often as the group lead would like - doesnt really care.
• self sufficient and can survive, does not need a zerg to get ap.
• runs no more than 4-6 people. 4-10 people
• Only really zergs when taking important keeps or defending
• usually are followed by lots of pugs when near friendly keeps. they often dont like when this happens but will occasionally offer open invites if a serious objective needs to be completed.
• Enjoys being outnumbered unless its triple their number and one must abandon all hope.
• often uses meta builds.

Prince_of_all_Pugs

Rickter wrote: »

Rickter Small man

• Sieges and takes objectives
• At least 4/10 in the group runs good group builds, uses snares, AOE's, Debuffs, ulti dumps,etc but the group lead doesnt actually request or require any certain skill run. Can kill larger groups if done right but doesnt happen as often as the group lead would like - doesnt really care.
• self sufficient and can survive, does not need a zerg to get ap.
• runs no more than 4-6 people. 4-10 people
• Only really zergs when taking important keeps or defending
• usually are followed by lots of pugs when near friendly keeps. they often dont like when this happens but will occasionally offer open invites if a serious objective needs to be completed.
• Enjoys being outnumbered unless its triple their number and one must abandon all hope.
• often uses meta builds.

sounds like a real small man group

Celas_Dranacea

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Thank you very much.

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Thank you very much.

@Publius_Scipio Is the objection to the leadership comment that you don't like groups in general, or that you don't think leading groups should be included in a definition of what is a "hero of Cyrodil" ?

Please have a seat Mr. Dranacea. *points to a chair*

*Celas pulls the chair out and sits down*
*Scipio turns around to a table with liquors and glasses. Without turning around he asks Celas*

Something to drink? Bourbon? Johnnie Walker Blue? Coffee if you'd like.

Celas: Mountain Dew will do if you have it.

*Scipio turns around and looks at Celas puzzled*
*Celas shrugs his shoulders*

Celas: I'm a gamer.

*Scipio shakes his head up and down slowly and turns back around to the liquor table*
*Scipio grabs a Mountain Dew out of the mini fridge and pours a glass of purified water and drops two ice cubes in the shape of a flexed bicep into the glass*
*Scipio is about to pour the Mountain Dew into a glass when Celas interrupts him*

Celas: The can is fine

*Scipio stops as the lip of the can and glass are kissing*
*Scipio turns around walks over to Celas and hands him the can of Mointain Dew and sits down in a chair opposite of Celas*
*Scipio takes a sip of water and begins speaking*

You seem like a man who doesn't beat around the bush, so I will be very blunt. I don't care about zergs, 1vX, 1v1, etc. I care about the COVENANT winning this war. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.... If Royal Reyals and Con Jay want to tear each other limb from limb that's fine by me. I don't care about the elves and I don't care about the Pact. I don't care about any of their "celebrities" or "champions". I don't care about their guilds and all the bull[snip] baggage that comes with it.

*Scipio is interrupted by a rather unexpected and quite violent burp from Celas*

Celas: Ooo. Excuse me. You know, Mountain Dew. *shrugs his shoulders*

*Scipio stares at Celas for a few seconds and then beings speaking again*

One thing matters. The same one thing that has mattered since the dawn of this Akatosh forsaken war. You win the campaign, you win Cyrodiil. One winner, nothing more, and nothing less. The small scale AP farmers don't do jack [snip] for their alliance. The two dueling at the foot of White Fall Mountain aren't doing jack [snip] for their alliance. Maybe the stinkin' giant that makes his home at the summit will one day have a terrible tummy ache and take a huge sh[snip] and it will drop down on the heads of those below.

Doesn't matter to me if it's a single elf at Rayles farm. He has to die. I don't care if Miat, Mizaru, Zergbad (the now) Exterminatored, the boogeyman, and whoever else pop out of the woodwork.... They to have to die. I don't give a cliffracer's leathery sack if at Chalman every Pact and elf guild show up at the same time! The task never changes! Two BLUE BANNERS must be raised and all the red ants and pointy eared folk that pick up TV signals with those ears.... They must all be decimated....

*Scipio downs the rest of the water and stands up*
*Scipio walks over to the still seated Celas and places his right hand on Celas' left shoulder*

I think you see the big picture now. You go ahead and enjoy the rest of that Mountain Dew.

*Scipio pats Celas on the shoulder twice and walks away*

I can't believe I got my own Publius RP bit lol

I feel very similarly about Cyrodil and your sentiments are well received. However, I am one of those pointy eared folk, and have never drank Mountain Dew. If you must know, I prefer coffee over any other beverage while I feast upon Nord and Breton entrails.

Majeure

utb99 wrote: »

The Erotic Roleplayer in Bruma

On my way to Bruma now.

tonemd

geonsocal wrote: »

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nothing is fake - everything everyone is doing is very real.

deep thought...here's another one for you...

Anything fried to hell is no longer a vegetable.

Also, if it is a donut, where are the onion holes?

tonemd

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Thank you very much.

Fake Heroes of Cyrodiil

- Publius Scipio

IcyDeadPeople

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Fake 1vXer
Often uses cookie cutter youtube builds

Real 1VXer
often uses meta builds or creates new meta builds.

Real Small man
often uses meta builds or creates new meta builds.

The "meta" builds ARE the cookie cutter youtube builds.

The ones out there coming up with more interesting stuff are always testing some off the wall crazy ideas like Jack and Supermad. Sometimes it works and sometimes it fails horribly, but that is how you test them.

NightbladeMechanics

Satiar wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

Wanna know real 1vXers from fake ones? Just watch out for who can still pull it off next patch when its ten times harder and people can no longer be carried by extremely powerful and forgiving mechanics.

^ People been carried by their builds for too long.

That's just called "playing an MMO" tho. We are all nothing without good builds.

Lol no.

1) Do you not make tactical calls in group fights? Do you not use terrain, flank, bait, spread, or otherwise try to outplay your enemies, or do you just run straight at them and let your stats win alone?

2) Just as negate buffs, destro ult, and purge, rapids, and barrier nerfs narrowed the gap between your organized raids and pug zergs -- making you rage and your guild temporarily stop running groups, I will add -- heavy armor buffs, proc sets, Pirate Skeleton, Troll King, and CP stat inflation narrowed the gap between more skilled individuals and small groups and less skilled ones. I've raged plenty at that stuff.

Maybe large scalers are out of touch with the state of the game off crown?

Publius_Scipio

tonemd wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

True Heroes of Cyrodil

- Use zone chat to report enemy movements, coordinate groups and create a positive atmosphere with words of solidarity
- Respond to calls for help from other individuals and groups in there faction
- Lead groups and finds ways to help train and support new players
- Are not overly concerned with AP/gain per hour, even if they enjoy AP farming. Maybe they are not obsessed with winning a campaign but at least they try to make decisions that will have a positive impact for their faction
- Do not go out of their way to insult individuals or groups, or prove that they are better than others. They earn respect through their deeds of heroism.

Thank you very much.

Fake Heroes of Cyrodiil

- Publius Scipio

Fake News. Works for CNN and MSNBC^

Lexxypwns

tonemd wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

Nothing is fake - everything everyone is doing is very real.

deep thought...here's another one for you...

Anything fried to hell is no longer a vegetable.

Also, if it is a donut, where are the onion holes?

Even if its fried in vegetable oil?

And the onion holes get chopped up for soup

get rekt m8

Nivellan

Im an admitted fake small scaler

I used Malubeth when it was extremely buggy... cause I was outnumbered obviously...

I never stay on crown, due to pressure from fellow peers that im doing it unironically...

I always abuse bugs, not because they are broken, but because I would like to see them fixed...

I stacked the *** out of nirn, because yea everyone was doing it

Please share your stories, you are not alone