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What do you think is the all around worst class in the game
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What do you think is the all around worst class in the game 603 votes
nightblade
64%
386 votes
dragonknight
15%
92 votes
templar
13%
81 votes
sorcerer
7%
44 votes
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭None. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses in different game types, roles, builds etc. There are too many variables to consider one better than the other.
For example nightblades suffer in end game pve but excel in pvp. So do they suck or are they good? Well, both... depends on the situation.
So yeah, pointless and generic poll, no offence
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Yep, none. Everyone has their preference and has a way to enjoy their play. You should've put a "none" option on this one really.
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Nord_Templar✭✭✭templar1. Sorceser is more easy , for a single play in PvE.
2. Tempar - universal.
3. Dragon knight - boring. Grinder.
4. Night Blade ...I do not like thugs and thieves ))
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭nightbladeNone. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses in different game types, roles, builds etc. There are too many variables to consider one better than the other.
For example nightblades suffer in end game pve but excel in pvp. So do they suck or are they good? Well, both... depends on the situation.
So yeah, pointless and generic poll, no offence
I almost never see any good nb stam or mag on pvp, I see only gangers who arnt to skilled and nonstop I see skilled especially sorcs, dk's and just healbots2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭dragonknightDragonknights make you think, "Awesome powerful swordsman." But 98% of it's skills and morphs are Magicka. Dragonknights lose their appeal drastically when you're forced to use a Staff in order to make full use of the class.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dragonknights make you think, "Awesome powerful swordsman." But 98% of it's skills and morphs are Magicka. Dragonknights lose their appeal drastically when you're forced to use a Staff in order to make full use of the class.
Ironically, I think this problem has more to do with the fact that hybrids aren't really viable for 98% of non-tank builds. If you could split between the two pools without crippling your damage output, DKs would be fantastic, and really cool. As is? Not so much.5 -
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You do realize ganking requires a fair bit of skill, many NBs are glass cannons and only get 1 chance to kill their victim, if they fail their initial attack are usually screwed. many need to utulize stealth as they do not have the defense to fight in the open.None. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses in different game types, roles, builds etc. There are too many variables to consider one better than the other.
For example nightblades suffer in end game pve but excel in pvp. So do they suck or are they good? Well, both... depends on the situation.
So yeah, pointless and generic poll, no offence
I almost never see any good nb stam or mag on pvp, I see only gangers who arnt to skilled and nonstop I see skilled especially sorcs, dk's and just healbots
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✭✭✭All classes has their uses and shine really bright in certain areas.
NB's are a PitA in PvP but lack in PvE DPS atm. Sorcs are one of the 2 best PvE DPS's and really good at PvP. DK's makes BiS Trial Tanks and got strong DPS in PvE and great in PvP and Templars while lacking in PvE DPS right now compared to DK's and sorcs are BiS healers and a really good in PvP.
As you can see all of them are strong in PvP Some will argue which is better but in my opinion I think things PvP wise are really well balanced, at least compared to previous updates and years. PvE is where the balance needs to be restored a bit. But yea, no class is all around "the worst" 3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
You do realize ganking requires a fair bit of skill, many NBs are glass cannons and only get 1 chance to kill their victim, if they fail their initial attack are usually screwed. many need to utulize stealth as they do not have the defense to fight in the open.None. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses in different game types, roles, builds etc. There are too many variables to consider one better than the other.
For example nightblades suffer in end game pve but excel in pvp. So do they suck or are they good? Well, both... depends on the situation.
So yeah, pointless and generic poll, no offence
I almost never see any good nb stam or mag on pvp, I see only gangers who arnt to skilled and nonstop I see skilled especially sorcs, dk's and just healbots
Yeah, I've got to second this. NB ganking has absolutely no margin for error against a player who isn't comatose. You can alpha for absurd amounts of damage, but screw it up, or catch an opponent who's expecting your attack, and you are hosed.5 -
Whatelse73b14_ESO wrote: »Yep, none. Everyone has their preference and has a way to enjoy their play. You should've put a "none" option on this one really.
Exactly. One can have fun with each class. (And I definitely have fun)0 -
Myyth✭✭✭✭✭None.
All classes can use all weapons and all armor. The only thing that defines a class is its class abilities and each class has an equal amount of good and bad class skills. Now if your talking about individual skill lines, I think Templar radiant and sorcerer dark are the weakest but both still have some very useful skills. So its really hard to say any class is the weakest.0 -
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✭nightbladeNB magica has the lowest DPS in endgame pve Stamnb is third but has the lowest survivability of all the classes. MagNb the worst open world class right now. Stamnb only the best class for ganking while the other stam specs are ahead of them for everything else,Large groups small group and 1vx.2 -
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✭As everyone else was saying, there really isn't a "worst" class. Every class has their own strengths and weaknesses. If you had asked a more specific question like which class has the worst dps or the worst healer then those are questions that have answers. However even those questions are subjective since, although sorcs currently have the highest dps, other classes bring utility that could make them just as viable. For example a magika NB provides some nice HoT for the group while a dk boosts everyone's fire damage. Things like this make it impossible to determine the best class.1 -
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✭Nightblades and DKs have had the roughest time overall. Templars, and especially Sorcs, get treated very well from Zenimax. These are broad statements though and really there is more to consider when looking at PvE, PvP, Stamina, Magika, etc.PC NA
~Currently taking a break from the game until my DK can become something more than just a crafter~5 -
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✭✭nightbladeMagicka NB and Stamina DK!
Stamina DK???? What game you playing man? When built properly a Stam DK is arguably the strongest class in PvP. Its also the strongest stamina class in PvE.@ Izaki #PCEU
#FrenchKiss #GoneFor2YearsAndMyGuildDoesn'tRaidAnymore
#MoreDPSthanYou
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Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
You do realize ganking requires a fair bit of skill, many NBs are glass cannons and only get 1 chance to kill their victim, if they fail their initial attack are usually screwed. many need to utulize stealth as they do not have the defense to fight in the open.None. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses in different game types, roles, builds etc. There are too many variables to consider one better than the other.
For example nightblades suffer in end game pve but excel in pvp. So do they suck or are they good? Well, both... depends on the situation.
So yeah, pointless and generic poll, no offence
I almost never see any good nb stam or mag on pvp, I see only gangers who arnt to skilled and nonstop I see skilled especially sorcs, dk's and just healbots
This.3 -
SnubbS✭✭✭✭✭dragonknightIzakiBrotherSs wrote: »
StamDK is the worst Stam class in PvP. It has the lowest damage, no movement abilities, relies on a clunky spammable and is completely outclassed by stamsorc in every area apart from Spell resist.
That's really what you have to compare them to—stamsorcs. You do the same combos, you can run the same gear sets etc—and StamSorc will have more damage, more healing, more movement, more sustain and more group utility.
Stamplars have similar (slightly lesser healing), but possess more damage, more utility and more gear diversity. Example—you can run dualwield/2h with a setup like 2x Slime, 5x Ravager, 5x BonePirate—and that's because you aren't reliant upon the worst spammable in elder scrolls. Edit: Almost forgot, Stamplars are literally Tankier. 8% dmg reduction. It never ends.
Stamblades are in a class of their own, better damage, better sustain, better passives (have I mentioned passives yet? Because outside of Battleroar, DKs have the worst passives for Stam-based PvP) and more options for different playstyles. Oh, and they aren't reliant upon the worst spammable in elder scrolls. Oh, and they have the best stam ult in PvP.
Just because you can build a StamDK into an average class with decent damage/sustain etc—that doesn't diminish the fact that every other Stamclass is superior.
I'm not concerned with PvE—because from everything I've read all Stambuilds are sort of pointless in PvE right now. Although, from everything I've read/seen—StamDK is the highest end-game StamDD.
Read above for my thoughts on StamDK. It might be "Viable" in the sense that you can at least get some kills with it—it's still the worst Stamclass by a mile.
MagDKs in PvE are great DDs right now—maybe they're borderline unplayable next patch. As far as PvP, they're viable but have the worst sustain in Elder Scrolls. They're great in duels, they're great for Small-scale (2-4 man pvp) everything else—not really. No Magbuild really shines right now in solo play besides MagSorc. There's really no reason to bring a MagDK into organized group play (10-12 man) either as they offer nothing outside of an AoE heal debuff. So you have to ask at that point, do I want another destro ult ticking for 7-8k per sec, or a Standard? I'll take another destro ult.
They do at least have a place in PvP, I must stress that—there are areas where MagDK is BiS. StamDK? No—no to the power of a thousand. Even the people in PvP who want to build fortresses to sit there, hold block and do nothing—even in that Scenario it's better to have a blazplar than a dk.Edited by SnubbS on April 9, 2017 4:46PM10 -
None of course. Its all based on how you play, and what you play well.
Many of the answers here are based on on the myth that there is one twue way to play any game. This is akin to the idea that many players just want to blast through fights with pure DPS without applying any tactics. The different classes demand different play-styles and different tactics. For myself I prefer Dots, siphons and hots, and I've developed a play-style that uses these effectively.0 -
Alchemical✭✭✭✭✭dragonknightWhatever class I'm currently playing is under powered and every other class needs to be nerfed. True fax.9
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✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »
StamDK is the worst Stam class in PvP. It has the lowest damage, no movement abilities, relies on a clunky spammable and is completely outclassed by stamsorc in every area apart from Spell resist.
That's really what you have to compare them to—stamsorcs. You do the same combos, you can run the same gear sets etc—and StamSorc will have more damage, more healing, more movement, more sustain and more group utility.
Stamplars have similar (slightly lesser healing), but possess more damage, more utility and more gear diversity. Example—you can run dualwield/2h with a setup like 2x Slime, 5x Ravager, 5x BonePirate—and that's because you aren't reliant upon the worst spammable in elder scrolls. Edit: Almost forgot, Stamplars are literally Tankier. 8% dmg reduction. It never ends.
Stamblades are in a class of their own, better damage, better sustain, better passives (have I mentioned passives yet? Because outside of Battleroar, DKs have the worst passives for Stam-based PvP) and more options for different playstyles. Oh, and they aren't reliant upon the worst spammable in elder scrolls. Oh, and they have the best stam ult in PvP.
Just because you can build a StamDK into an average class with decent damage/sustain etc—that doesn't diminish the fact that every other Stamclass is superior.
I'm not concerned with PvE—because from everything I've read all Stambuilds are sort of pointless in PvE right now. Although, from everything I've read/seen—StamDK is the highest end-game StamDD.
Read above for my thoughts on StamDK. It might be "Viable" in the sense that you can at least get some kills with it—it's still the worst Stamclass by a mile.
MagDKs in PvE are great DDs right now—maybe they're borderline unplayable next patch. As far as PvP, they're viable but have the worst sustain in Elder Scrolls. They're great in duels, they're great for Small-scale (2-4 man pvp) everything else—not really. No Magbuild really shines right now in solo play besides MagSorc. There's really no reason to bring a MagDK into organized group play (10-12 man) either as they offer nothing outside of an AoE heal debuff. So you have to ask at that point, do I want another destro ult ticking for 7-8k per sec, or a Standard? I'll take another destro ult.
They do at least have a place in PvP, I must stress that—there are areas where MagDK is BiS. StamDK? No—no to the power of a thousand. Even the people in PvP who want to build fortresses to sit there, hold block and do nothing—even in that Scenario it's better to have a blazplar than a dk.
Don't they have some sort of debuff that increases everyone's fire damage?1 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭nightbladeTX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »
You do realize ganking requires a fair bit of skill, many NBs are glass cannons and only get 1 chance to kill their victim, if they fail their initial attack are usually screwed. many need to utulize stealth as they do not have the defense to fight in the open.None. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses in different game types, roles, builds etc. There are too many variables to consider one better than the other.
For example nightblades suffer in end game pve but excel in pvp. So do they suck or are they good? Well, both... depends on the situation.
So yeah, pointless and generic poll, no offence
I almost never see any good nb stam or mag on pvp, I see only gangers who arnt to skilled and nonstop I see skilled especially sorcs, dk's and just healbots
I know and this is why nb is the worst, in open fight he have no chance if is not played by someone on top of server players but also if someone will duel with same in other class against nb nb will die at all, he is able only to great ganking
just dont give nb chance to go into stealth and easy kill
also in pve nb is the worst for everything as magica and stamina except worse stamplar DD
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SnubbS✭✭✭✭✭dragonknightOakmontowls_ESO wrote: »IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »
StamDK is the worst Stam class in PvP. It has the lowest damage, no movement abilities, relies on a clunky spammable and is completely outclassed by stamsorc in every area apart from Spell resist.
That's really what you have to compare them to—stamsorcs. You do the same combos, you can run the same gear sets etc—and StamSorc will have more damage, more healing, more movement, more sustain and more group utility.
Stamplars have similar (slightly lesser healing), but possess more damage, more utility and more gear diversity. Example—you can run dualwield/2h with a setup like 2x Slime, 5x Ravager, 5x BonePirate—and that's because you aren't reliant upon the worst spammable in elder scrolls. Edit: Almost forgot, Stamplars are literally Tankier. 8% dmg reduction. It never ends.
Stamblades are in a class of their own, better damage, better sustain, better passives (have I mentioned passives yet? Because outside of Battleroar, DKs have the worst passives for Stam-based PvP) and more options for different playstyles. Oh, and they aren't reliant upon the worst spammable in elder scrolls. Oh, and they have the best stam ult in PvP.
Just because you can build a StamDK into an average class with decent damage/sustain etc—that doesn't diminish the fact that every other Stamclass is superior.
I'm not concerned with PvE—because from everything I've read all Stambuilds are sort of pointless in PvE right now. Although, from everything I've read/seen—StamDK is the highest end-game StamDD.
Read above for my thoughts on StamDK. It might be "Viable" in the sense that you can at least get some kills with it—it's still the worst Stamclass by a mile.
MagDKs in PvE are great DDs right now—maybe they're borderline unplayable next patch. As far as PvP, they're viable but have the worst sustain in Elder Scrolls. They're great in duels, they're great for Small-scale (2-4 man pvp) everything else—not really. No Magbuild really shines right now in solo play besides MagSorc. There's really no reason to bring a MagDK into organized group play (10-12 man) either as they offer nothing outside of an AoE heal debuff. So you have to ask at that point, do I want another destro ult ticking for 7-8k per sec, or a Standard? I'll take another destro ult.
They do at least have a place in PvP, I must stress that—there are areas where MagDK is BiS. StamDK? No—no to the power of a thousand. Even the people in PvP who want to build fortresses to sit there, hold block and do nothing—even in that Scenario it's better to have a blazplar than a dk.
Don't they have some sort of debuff that increases everyone's fire damage?
Yes—but the buff itself isn't useful in PvP. The skill is, for the damage as well as the buff for yourself. But when you're fighting 20-30 people, that debuff really isn't that good. It's also purgable.2
