What do you think is the all around worst class in the game

Strider_Roshin

nightblade

Madness1 wrote: »

gediv2 wrote: »

Madness1 wrote: »

I think all the classes have their good and bad points. So I think this is more of a personal preference response due to play-style, player skill, and encounter varients. My weakest class by a country mile would be Sorc, and it's no shock it's a class I dislike playing.

If this poll was trying to determine what class you suck at, your response would be relevant.

Everything is subjective, their is no best/weakest class in the game. If the best players who were playing their best class all went up against each other you'd get varying results. Their are so many different ways things could play out, with differing circumstances. Even then a lot of it would come down to luck due to crit and procs.

If only we had an objective means of determining the value of a class with something such as leaderboards. Sigh, if only.

joshjda

ForsakenSin wrote: »

the worst class? there is no such things each one of them have good and bad things.

ITS THE PLAYERS

1) PLAYER WHO IS USING THE LIGHT BOW ATTACK ALL THE TIME
2) TANK WITH 19 K HEALTH NO TAUNT
3) HEALER WITH SWORD AND SHIELD

ect ect

its the players not the class

Actually i have a build that will do 13k max with a light bow attack during execute phase 5-7k normal it's about how you've set it up.

Head.hunter

There was a time when Nightblades were the worst class and needed to be improved. This period lasted about a year or two after the game was released. Now, I get killed by Nightblades in pvp all the time. Even in pve they do fairly well.

Saturn

I would say Templar because of stamplar being turd in PvE, but then magicka templar is so rad <.< I don't think any of them are bad to be honest. And there are always players that will make the class you think is bad, look like it's the best damn thing in the world.

Caligamy_ESO

dragonknight

I voted for DK just because I find it to be a complete and total snoozefest of a class to play. But that's just me, I have tried many times to gain interest in playing it but nope, ...just no.

WalksonGraves

nightblade

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Madness1 wrote: »

gediv2 wrote: »

Madness1 wrote: »

I think all the classes have their good and bad points. So I think this is more of a personal preference response due to play-style, player skill, and encounter varients. My weakest class by a country mile would be Sorc, and it's no shock it's a class I dislike playing.

If this poll was trying to determine what class you suck at, your response would be relevant.

Everything is subjective, their is no best/weakest class in the game. If the best players who were playing their best class all went up against each other you'd get varying results. Their are so many different ways things could play out, with differing circumstances. Even then a lot of it would come down to luck due to crit and procs.

If only we had an objective means of determining the value of a class with something such as leaderboards. Sigh, if only.

The only formula they know is feelings > math

Strider_Roshin

nightblade

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Madness1 wrote: »

gediv2 wrote: »

Madness1 wrote: »

I think all the classes have their good and bad points. So I think this is more of a personal preference response due to play-style, player skill, and encounter varients. My weakest class by a country mile would be Sorc, and it's no shock it's a class I dislike playing.

If this poll was trying to determine what class you suck at, your response would be relevant.

Everything is subjective, their is no best/weakest class in the game. If the best players who were playing their best class all went up against each other you'd get varying results. Their are so many different ways things could play out, with differing circumstances. Even then a lot of it would come down to luck due to crit and procs.

If only we had an objective means of determining the value of a class with something such as leaderboards. Sigh, if only.

The only formula they know is feelings > math

Too bad facts don't care about their feelings

Nyladreas

sorcerer

I picked sorc because I play a stamblade and i think so because they're the worst class for me to play against in pvp or compete with in pve not to mention they're solo machines even in light armor. Which totally isn't fair

Yep I'm butthurt about this!

Would appreciate more balance.

I love thieves and rogues and a nightblade should be a badass assassin weaving dark lifestealing magic into their attacks. It disappoints me that we're one of the weakest classes with such a high skillcap ( i don't mind the difficulty i just wish it was a little more rewarding after mastering the class ).

I really hope hybrids get a chance in Morrowind. It's something I've always wanted and not just for NB. Imo it shouldn't be hard to implement either. ZOS just needs to drop attribute scaling damage and add that somewhere else for all builds. That means both magicka and stamina + hybrids as well.

One of the greatest things about elder scrolls series was the fact that i could always do whatever i wanted. ESO seems to get the idea it just hasn't been done properly yet.

I also don't agree that NBs should ALWAYS be ganking glass cannons. Give us an opportunity with more sustained damage to stand toe to toe with others. Make a build for that. ( not saying be op pls don't take it wrong )

qsnoopyjr

DK is tank
NB is utility
Sorc is DPS
Templar is heals

It's just PvE doesnt incorporate utilities, they like to think of themselves as complex... But its not, its just a DPS fight. Obviously you need heals and tank. PvP on the other hand... Friggin NB. Pop outta nowhere, slay you, and hide in the shadows again and await next victim.

Complex PvE fight is where everyone is expected to die, except for the NB that can hide from everyone because of his utilities and when part of event is over, rez allies.
Players are used to survival and fast as possible.
When players are expected to die... Thats the gap between a newb and a pro team.

Princess_Ciri

nightblade

I love my Nightblade but ZOS hates them, it seems. Nerf nerf nerf with each patch. I had to make my NB main my crafter and switch to a sorc for pvp and pve

clocksstoppe

nightblade

Right now nightblade. After morrowind, templar.

max_only

nightblade

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

DK is tank
NB is utility
Sorc is DPS
Templar is heals

It's just PvE doesnt incorporate utilities, they like to think of themselves as complex... But its not, its just a DPS fight. Obviously you need heals and tank. PvP on the other hand... Friggin NB. Pop outta nowhere, slay you, and hide in the shadows again and await next victim.

Complex PvE fight is where everyone is expected to die, except for the NB that can hide from everyone because of his utilities and when part of event is over, rez allies.
Players are used to survival and fast as possible.
When players are expected to die... Thats the gap between a newb and a pro team.

In your opinion, specifically what utility does NB provide for the group in pve that is unique to their class?

mwo1480

nightblade

its not thati think its the worst, i just dont like playing it

gediv2

nightblade

bump. Get a clue ZOS.

gediv2

nightblade

Do you think ZOS reads this?

Tryxus

nightblade

gediv2 wrote: »

Do you think ZOS reads this?

Yeah they do. And they concluded that Sorcs need more buffing

FlyLionel

nightblade

max_only wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

DK is tank
NB is utility
Sorc is DPS
Templar is heals

It's just PvE doesnt incorporate utilities, they like to think of themselves as complex... But its not, its just a DPS fight. Obviously you need heals and tank. PvP on the other hand... Friggin NB. Pop outta nowhere, slay you, and hide in the shadows again and await next victim.

Complex PvE fight is where everyone is expected to die, except for the NB that can hide from everyone because of his utilities and when part of event is over, rez allies.
Players are used to survival and fast as possible.
When players are expected to die... Thats the gap between a newb and a pro team.

In your opinion, specifically what utility does NB provide for the group in pve that is unique to their class?

Some people just don't know dude. Guy is also saying that NB is generally the last person to die in pve due to cloak....cloak in pve. I need to try this in trials immediately; I never thought of running away from the fight and cloaking in pve. Once i'm done doing that I have enough time to rez all allies as well; NB op in pve. LOL..

ljb2k5_ESO

nightblade

Well look, a contest between classes that Nightblades won...*weep*

Kalante

nightblade

Terrible

gediv2

nightblade

Get a clue ZOS.

Silver_Strider

nightblade

NB by a mile.

On Live, NB makes decent tanks and healers but fall behind in comparison to DK tanks and Templar Healers. As far as DPS goes, NB is awful. Crap utility, low sustain damage, low survivability with only high sustain and high burst damage on Stamina specs being all that NBs have right now but burst is only good in PvP so you are left with 1 area to excel in.

After the patch, both our burst and sustain is being murdered so we have NOTHING.

Xvorg

nightblade

The class whose stam version needs to slot a magicka DPS skill to get a somewhat decent heal through vigor, which in turn is the same class tha get 8% extra magicka for slotting one skill from one line and the one that get extra ulti for using skills in that line, though the only available skill for stam cannot be spammed, is expensive and gets the same utility a pot gives you...

NBs are the antithesis of good design

max_only

nightblade

max_only wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

DK is tank
NB is utility
Sorc is DPS
Templar is heals

It's just PvE doesnt incorporate utilities, they like to think of themselves as complex... But its not, its just a DPS fight. Obviously you need heals and tank. PvP on the other hand... Friggin NB. Pop outta nowhere, slay you, and hide in the shadows again and await next victim.

Complex PvE fight is where everyone is expected to die, except for the NB that can hide from everyone because of his utilities and when part of event is over, rez allies.
Players are used to survival and fast as possible.
When players are expected to die... Thats the gap between a newb and a pro team.

In your opinion, specifically what utility does NB provide for the group in pve that is unique to their class?

Still curious @qsnoopyjr

WhitePawPrints

Worst class is every one that I play.

Best classes are those that kill me and they need nerfed!

max_only

nightblade

We got people in threads claiming magnbs got a buff by having to make 5 light attacks instead of 4 to proc our spectral bow.

Just delete the class and refund our money already lol


Nah, I really want Zos to look at all the nightblade threads from the PTS forums, the videos that have been made (by players they invited to their studio) and look at all the number crunching we're doing.

I haven't seen an uproar from us nightblades about the anti-ganking changes. We are concerned with our survival skill Siphoning Attacks. They are going to give Dark Deal a slap on the wrist (.2 seconds!) and gut SA to uselessness and tell us to be satisfied. No I think not.

Templars, Dks, lend me your ears and your lobbying strength! You fellow countrymen want to stand and fight with you, not be relegated to the shadows! We want to be invited to vet content as an equal contributor! Don't let them forget about us!


Nightblades to the barricade!!!!!!!!!



Okay I got a little carried away....

dovakiin5574

dragonknight

I'm at CP 388 and my health nightblade tank does just fine in end game with Tava's Favor, Ebon, and Mighty Chudan sets

Saint_Bud

dragonknight

Nearft in nearly evry patch or get useless buffs.
Just a fwe ot them
Cinderstorm
Wings
Ingneos shild
Dragon blood
Standart of might
Talons
and with morrowind
Major mending and battleroar

MagnusBlackmane

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

If only we had an objective means of determining the value of a class with something such as leaderboards. Sigh, if only.

I do wonder what would people do if there were no PvE related leaderboards... Imho, like some said before I too think there is no worst class. But because people get over excited over who's in which position on leaderboards, they naturally drift toward the classes that offer them a shot at high positions. Mentality of the crowd, "Class-x achieved first place so I too have to play Class-x". Boring, repetitive and lazy.

gediv2

nightblade

MagnusBlackmane wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

If only we had an objective means of determining the value of a class with something such as leaderboards. Sigh, if only.

I do wonder what would people do if there were no PvE related leaderboards... Imho, like some said before I too think there is no worst class. But because people get over excited over who's in which position on leaderboards, they naturally drift toward the classes that offer them a shot at high positions. Mentality of the crowd, "Class-x achieved first place so I too have to play Class-x". Boring, repetitive and lazy.

The implication being, it's some kind of badge of honor for you to enjoy the worst class in the game cuz you just "got the X factor" that makes it excel despite its shortcomings. Epeen, pure and simple.

I vote ZOS buffs NB/Stam so it is as powerful and as utilitarian as the current top class. After the buffs, you can lower your gear to maintain your pride of making lemonade from lemons.

kylerjalen

I don't think there is no worst class in the game. Worst class type maybe like Stamina Templar (not my personal opinion, just an example) but all classes have strengths and weaknesses in various zones and situations.
It also depends on the player as well.
Just my thoughts.