Colorblind mode.

Dragonking06

drallar wrote: »

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Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

I remember seeing a request like this about 2 years ago and we all clicked agree then too.. but if its any consolation, they make glasses for this now. The company Enchroma for example has some.

I actually own a pair of those Enchroma glasses - they are amazing sun glasses but mine do not work indoors, only outside in sunlight not at a computer screen.

That and I hear they're ridiculously expensive

Everyone needs to keep tagging the staff until they finally take notice of this thread.

Looking at you, @ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom, @ZOS_RichLambert...

Come on, this is 2017....

Enodoc

Dragonking06 wrote: »

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drallar wrote: »

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

I remember seeing a request like this about 2 years ago and we all clicked agree then too.. but if its any consolation, they make glasses for this now. The company Enchroma for example has some.

I actually own a pair of those Enchroma glasses - they are amazing sun glasses but mine do not work indoors, only outside in sunlight not at a computer screen.

That and I hear they're ridiculously expensive

Everyone needs to keep tagging the staff until they finally take notice of this thread.

Come on, this is 2017....

Um, @Dragonking06... they already have. Post #7:

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

/lurk

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Enodoc wrote: »

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Dragonking06 wrote: »

drallar wrote: »

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

I remember seeing a request like this about 2 years ago and we all clicked agree then too.. but if its any consolation, they make glasses for this now. The company Enchroma for example has some.

I actually own a pair of those Enchroma glasses - they are amazing sun glasses but mine do not work indoors, only outside in sunlight not at a computer screen.

That and I hear they're ridiculously expensive

Everyone needs to keep tagging the staff until they finally take notice of this thread.

Come on, this is 2017....

Um, @Dragonking06... they already have. Post #7:

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ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

/lurk

/lurk is hardly any insight as to whether they'll monitor the thread, pay attention to any feedback given, or convey the issue to the right ears... Poor excuse for acknowledgement of a feature that is practically a standard in the industry due to a disability that affects MANY people..

ziaodix

Bump.

Cously

I don't know how hard is to code this but it is a must feature for many players. One of most notorious case is the bubble phase in BC.

Sintao

ziaodix wrote: »

Bump.

Hi @ziaodix, did you try Visolve? See this post above.

newtinmpls

I do hope this gets added at some point

Glamdring

Can we get a response from ZoS on this subject pls?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

wolfie1.0.

I just saw this and i also want to say that I too have trouble with colorblindness also red/green. and it is very hard to distinguish what is happening at certain points of the game. especially in trials and other group events as it is hard to track and distinquish the red/green visual queues. Add ons help track things like buffs/debuffs but they cant change the animations or the colors. If we could just change the colors to different ones it would go better for us. like the OP the goal here is to be flexible, not get an advantage.

ziaodix

Come on ZoS. Give us something. Please tell us you plan on doing something for us.

Cêltic421

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

/lurk

Really? This is all you have to say about this topic?

@ZOS_RichLambert

ziaodix

Pretty much just a bump, considering we still haven't heard anything.

I won't - I can't - let this go. It's something that needs to have some sort of focus on it with feedback from the developers at least telling us they are looking into it and working on obtaining a solution would suffice at this point.

ziaodix

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys! We're working on getting the video available for everyone to see, but in the meantime, we can confirm that there will be a Trial of sorts in the upcoming Clockwork City DLC Game Pack. This Trial will be a bit different in that it's sort of a mini-Trial, if you will. Still 12 players, but a bit smaller than your typical Trial.

Also, the customizable telegraphs that were mentioned will allow you to choose a different color for telegraphs (which will, in turn, allow our friends that aren't able to see certain colors as well to have an easier time playing!)

Of course, we'll have more details on all the features and content in both DLC Game Packs as we get a bit closer to their launch dates.

SolarCat02

Ooh, yay! I am not colorblind, but even I have had issues seeing the red telegraphs in overly red places, such as certain locations in City of Ash II are Spindleclutch.

May I make a suggestion also regarding the use of the Coldharbor blues? We had an interesting time with a dear friend in White Gold Tower, when his screen changed colors he could no longer see the portals he needed to destroy. (We walked him through setting up the health bars above the portals so he could just aim at those but he shouldn't have had to do that.) I also know several people who have issues noticing the blue ground fire common in blue-tinted Coldharbor locations even though they also have red under them. One of my friends needs to sneak to the other side of the big blue swampy area with the Daedroth miniboss in Vaults of Madness before we engage so she can stay on the land the whole time, as she dies to blue fire in the blue water otherwise.

And for those that say watch your health bars, that's not always a good indication. I am always teasing one of our tanks because he will do things like stand in the lava puddle at the final boss of The Blessed Crucible and not notice he is being damaged unless I die. (I usually play healer). My favorite was the first progression run of Maw we did, on the first boss, when he decided to do a spree of heavy attacks on the boss during the first crystal burn phase. We didn't have the DPS needed to break the shield, so we wiped. Our tank didn't realize how much damage the boss was doing to everyone, or even that everyone else besides the two of us had died, until I died and he died instantly after since I was no longer healing him and he wasn't blocking at all.

BigBragg

Awesome this is happening

Zalicius

I wouldn't think it would be too difficult for them to allow a change of color for hazard zones(red areas) on the ground in the settings. Maybe allow them to be red, green or blue?

TerraDewBerry

Colorblind mode is something ESO should definitely have. I don't have that difficulty, but can totally empathize with those who do. It has be to really frustrating to just not be able to see certain things clearly. Right now, I can't think of a single game I've played online within the last 10 years that didn't have a colorblind mode. After 3 years it's a system that is long past due for ESO.

ziaodix

Zalicius wrote: »

I wouldn't think it would be too difficult for them to allow a change of color for hazard zones(red areas) on the ground in the settings. Maybe allow them to be red, green or blue?

usmcjdking wrote:

- Yesterday at 5:13 PM
The issue with the color palette the game uses is that your run of the mill R-G colorblind isn't necessarily that you can't see static objects and determine their actual color.

Fast moving objects are hard to differentiate and high particle counts can make the game look like absolute ***. For example, in rnd 7 VMA I would intentionally burst the poison pods in the center of the room because I could not see the ground indicator until it stopped moving (at which point it's too late).

This quote from jdking, on our discord, pretty much sums up why a simple color change wouldn't work, and there needs to be actual in-game support, to allow for the different types and sub-sets of colorblindness. It's not a one-size fits all kind of issue.

grumlins

As someone who's recently discovered he's color blind as well this happens to me in another game and it's likely happened to me here as well but I just never noticed.

Some fields look like they are friendly to me too on this game especially in raid settings because I simply can't tell from the color.

I've seen how other games handle color blindness and I think it's necessary here as well now.

My suggestion to the developer team would be to handle it like Arenanet has handled theirs as far as fields are concerned. Their AOE fields are designed with an outer wall around the edges of the fields. If it's a friendly field it has a particular pattern such as rectangular waves (for lack of a better description) for enemy fields, the AOE wall has a different pattern. It really helps.

I'm not saying they should make it look the same but it would help those of us who are color blind to know the difference easily and on the spot if they implemented something like this into their game and I'm only showing this as an example not as an insult because a direct competitor is being used as an example, but simply as an example of what was done in another game title to handle color blind player issues. It's not meant as an insult to the creativity of this team in the slightest and I just want to say that I enjoy this game immensely and will continue to play ESO I'm just trying to convey an example of a solution to the problem of color blindness in MMO's.

I'll try to illustrate the difference. In my first image you'll see on the left the friendly field on the right the enemy field.
On the second image, I'll be showing just the friendly.
On the third image, I'll be showing just the enemy.

Sintao

Great news at last! Especially for @ziaodix @Liam12548 the early posters in this thread.

Update 15 will include an new way to help people with various degrees of visual colour deficiency:
> We're also adding customizable combat cues for ability and attack telegraphs.
> This will allow you to customize the colors displayed so that you can better
> identify attacks in game, making it easier for everybody to play and enjoy ESO.
(Source: Horns of the Reach and Update 15 Preview 6 July 2017)

Huge kudos to all in this thread for taking the time and to ZOS @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_GinaBruno

Nyghthowler

Sintao wrote: »

Great news at last! Especially for @ziaodix @Liam12548 the early posters in this thread.

Update 15 will include an new way to help people with various degrees of visual colour deficiency:
> We're also adding customizable combat cues for ability and attack telegraphs.
> This will allow you to customize the colors displayed so that you can better
> identify attacks in game, making it easier for everybody to play and enjoy ESO.
(Source: Horns of the Reach and Update 15 Preview 6 July 2017)

Huge kudos to all in this thread for taking the time and to ZOS @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_GinaBruno

That is excellent news! TY @Sintao for the heads up.

HabbNutts

As a red-green colorblind person, I couldn't agree more.

ziaodix

I can't - obviously - take credit. I'm hopeful in assuming this was already in the works from the previous threads mentioning this issue. I am however, hopeful that I may have at least brought the issue back to the forefront.

Thanks everyone who support this topic, and here's hoping @ZoS does us justice with their new system.

I will be downloading and playing the PTS, to test it. I am looking forward to it.

Nyghthowler

@ziaodix pls keep us informed if it is in the PTS, and if it's worth looking forwards to.

Krayzie

Glad I saw this.

Things like boss AOE in certain dungeons I cannot see because I'm so horrifically colorblind.

ziaodix

Update: As others have pointed out in the PTS forum, the changes are nice for this specific issue. I made mine white, then pink, for two fights in 1 of the new dlc dungeons and I had zero issue ever seeing the enemies incoming damage. It will take some getting used (I only suffer from red-green colour blindness, and I think mine may be mild) because in certain cases I could still see the red circle (depending on the surface color it was on), so retraining myself to a new color will be an adjustment, but one I welcome when I can see it 100% of the time.

I will say, also, that the removal of ally affects is a double edged sword as mentioned. From my perspective (I'm a healer) the removing of the clutter from my screen is nice. It let's me see my HoT placement, shard placement, etc. without having to son with a ton of ground DoTs from the DPS. That being said, I can see where this could become an issue, like mentioned in the PTS thread, a tank holding a boss in friendly ultimates. A toggle for these would be nice.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

i find this 2, also there is so many effects going of when ur tanking its hard to see things

redshirt_49

I like it because a large number of particle effects on screen tend to crash my game client.

sdtlc

they also said to remove the effects from other players which haven't a synergy from your view

Chaste_Kid

red/green color deficiency here as well!

I died many times & I couldn't understand why, until someone actually explained to me.