Azura's Star NA PC Thread PART 3

Rickter

i logged on and DC had:

Warden
Rayles
Glademist
Aleswell
Bleakers
Chalman
Ash
Dragonclaw
Nikel
Roebeck

and they were working on losing Faregyl

within 20 minutes of me logging in, DC lost everything up to the three home keeps. it was that fast. I saw a huge EP group tkaing the north and AD had pushed up from the south and flagged Rayles. Alessia, BRK, Sej, Arrius - none of those keeps were touched.

Sylphie

Kartalin wrote: »

If a solo person or small group attacks us but then runs off we tend to leave them alone.

We all know this is not true lol. Whenever I solo or run duo with a friend, I tend to avoid guild groups since there's not much I can do against coordinated group play. I still however occasionally run into members of TM that end up chasing me with roots/ccs while AD pugs beat on me.

I don't really have anything against TM for doing this since it's how Cyrodil was designed, I'm just posting this since I find it somewhat ironic that you made a video focusing on EP outnumbering your group but you won't own up that your group does the same thing to other players.

Kartalin

Sylphie wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

If a solo person or small group attacks us but then runs off we tend to leave them alone.

I'm just posting this since I find it somewhat ironic that you made a video focusing on EP outnumbering your group but you won't own up that your group does the same thing to other players.

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to point out the hypocrisy of the post . Well done. I'd realized myself after I posted it but then I decided to see how long it would last.

It is exactly the same thing, the only difference is scale.

EP should still be ashamed of resorting to faction zergs.

Kartalin

Boozdog wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

EP was rolling around in a massive group for awhile there early in the evening. We ran into groups like this multiple times.

https://youtu.be/FMGNBHOF8-o

Got a lot of kills though in spite of getting run over by zergs. Eventually they spread out a bit more and we had some more success. Finished at about 60k AP/hour.

This is ironic because you guys are notorious and known for chasing down solo/small group players across the map with several destro ults/negates.

That's a special service we provide for select individuals.

jameslogan

Kartalin wrote: »

Boozdog wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

EP was rolling around in a massive group for awhile there early in the evening. We ran into groups like this multiple times.

https://youtu.be/FMGNBHOF8-o

Got a lot of kills though in spite of getting run over by zergs. Eventually they spread out a bit more and we had some more success. Finished at about 60k AP/hour.

This is ironic because you guys are notorious and known for chasing down solo/small group players across the map with several destro ults/negates.

That's a special service we provide for select individuals.

I am well aware of this. XD

Zander98

Knowing Josh he can do all the talking he needs to do on the battlefield.

sharquez

Scamh wrote: »

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Well we aren't running 2 full raids every day of the week, or at all for that matter, but we do reasonable for what we got, we've been recovering from a hiatus so yes we've got work to do. Not something i'm ashamed of or afraid to admit.

I'm not looking to pick a forum war, But we have a lot of people with big egos looking for reasons to jump down each others throats. It's just a game. Don't forget to have fun, and don't make stuff personal because it's not. No ones got stuff to prove to anyone around here, we all know where we stand. That's what the points and leaderboards are for, and it doesn't mean jack anyway.

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Scrub_Potato

I decided to put some input on this whole conversation, so here it is: I went to Slim Chickens for lunch, ordered Chicken and Waffles, and they were delicious.

Prince_of_all_Pugs

@Dubzug made Grand warlord in like 4 months is that a new record?

DHale

Been playing on AZ last few nights. It's like every bad player went there to hide and every good player went there to beat on them. The AP is no joke though.

apostate9

Zander98 wrote: »

Knowing Josh he can do all the talking he needs to do on the battlefield.

Well, he did a lot of hate whispering after we killed him and his crew for like the 3rd of 4th time.. Does that count?

He knows his class, no doubt, but group-play is maybe not his strongest suit. And publicly bashing a whole list full of guilds (including mine) for basically no reason was going to draw a predictably strong response from someone. I guess it was me.

He just takes this whole game way too seriously, as do a lot of others around here IMHO.

Kartalin

apostate9 wrote: »

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Actually we were on DC at that time. Sorry. Was it you guys in that video? What about this video I cut from the 2 hours we hung around Arrius mostly farming EP but later AD also?

https://youtu.be/00uBmNPIhRk

Were you there? Still don't know who you guys are and you still haven't told us what a Death Shead is.

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apostate9

Kartalin wrote: »

apostate9 wrote: »

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Actually we were on DC at that time. Sorry. Was it you guys in that video? What about this video I cut from the 2 hours we hung around Arrius mostly farming EP but later AD also?

https://youtu.be/00uBmNPIhRk

Were you there? Still don't know who you guys are and you still haven't told us what a Death Shead is.
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It's a typo on your part. Hope that clears it up.

As for your vid, no. That looks like "Something Pact". Can't really read it. Not sure who that is. Don't really know who you are either, except you like to farm towers. Unsuccessfully, in the one case we actually fought you.

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Scamh

apostate9 wrote: »

Yeah. I'm here. Just quiet. Said all I needed too.

I see.

apostate9

Scamh wrote: »

apostate9 wrote: »

Yeah. I'm here. Just quiet. Said all I needed too.

I see.

Missed you too, Sweetie!

Scamh

Still waiting for that screenshot.

apostate9

Scamh wrote: »

Still waiting for that screenshot.

Good to know!

Scamh

apostate9 wrote: »

No, I assure you, I have pretty much expended all the effort talking to you on this topic that is, or was ever merited. And I am not sure to which events you could be referring. Do you have a screenshot?

In any case, when forum warriors start following you around for page after page, telling you how bad your guild is and droning on and on about it...that's when you know the reverse is actually true. Otherwise it wouldn't be worth the effort of continued trolling. So...thank you. With quality citizens like you among our detractors, it certainly means we are doing something right!

Have a great day.

we don't have a screenshot, we have a vid

apostate9

Scamh wrote: »

apostate9 wrote: »

No, I assure you, I have pretty much expended all the effort talking to you on this topic that is, or was ever merited. And I am not sure to which events you could be referring. Do you have a screenshot?

In any case, when forum warriors start following you around for page after page, telling you how bad your guild is and droning on and on about it...that's when you know the reverse is actually true. Otherwise it wouldn't be worth the effort of continued trolling. So...thank you. With quality citizens like you among our detractors, it certainly means we are doing something right!

Have a great day.

we don't have a screenshot, we have a vid

Great!

Scrub_Potato

apostate9 wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

apostate9 wrote: »

Don't really know who you are either, except you like to farm towers. Unsuccessfully, in the one case we actually fought you.

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Just wanted to through this out there.

Tertiary: third in order or level

I figured by saying they were the Tertiary Meat, they were the last of the meat to actually fall in combat. You got the endless pug hordes who die left and right in the first echelon, then the semi-organized guilds in the secondary echelon who would end up dying next if things went south, and then you have the Tertiary Echelon, the last group to fall in a fight. Hence, Tertiary Meat, The last meat lol. That's how I have always figured it, anyways.

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PenguinInACan

Scrub_Potato wrote: »

apostate9 wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

apostate9 wrote: »

Don't really know who you are either, except you like to farm towers. Unsuccessfully, in the one case we actually fought you.

[snip]

[snip]

Just wanted to through this out there.

Tertiary: third in order or level

I figured by saying they were the Tertiary Meat, they were the last of the meat to actually fall in combat. You got the endless pug hordes who die left and right in the first echelon, then the semi-organized guilds in the secondary echelon who would end up dying next if things went south, and then you have the Tertiary Echelon, the last group to fall in a fight. Hence, Tertiary Meat, The last meat lol. That's how I have always figured it, anyways.

It's a good description...But really it was just because we used a lot of meatbags.

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CyrusArya

PenguinInACan wrote: »

It's a good description...But really it was just because we used a lot of meatbags.

Im glad you agree. Its an excellent description, seeing as Tertiary Meats natural habitat is nestled in 3 layers of pugs.

Finally, we see eye to eye.

Rickter

who was that EP werewolf horde last night? that was probably one of the coolest things i had ever seen!

Kartalin

Not sure but they seem to show up every so often. Really cool, yeah.

Prince_of_all_Pugs

CyrusArya wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

It's a good description...But really it was just because we used a lot of meatbags.

Im glad you agree. Its an excellent description, seeing as Tertiary Meats natural habitat is nestled in 3 layers of pugs.

Finally, we see eye to eye.

there was a time when this simply wasnt true, once Tertiary meat was literally the strongest AD pvp guild, in the time of the buff servers we where a super power, HAVOK was the only guild that could beat us in a stack v stack fight. man.......... what the hell happened?

Rickter

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

there was a time when this simply wasnt true, once Tertiary meat was literally the strongest AD pvp guild, in the time of the buff servers we where a super power, HAVOK was the only guild that could beat us in a stack v stack fight. man.......... what the hell happened?

i havent really kept up with Tertiary Meat but i do recall a time where the only place you found them were on deathrow servers such as Thornblade and Axe of Belharza

maybe the lack of competition created complacency?

But i agree, TM was and still is really a powerhouse

Kartalin

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

CyrusArya wrote: »

PenguinInACan wrote: »

It's a good description...But really it was just because we used a lot of meatbags.

Im glad you agree. Its an excellent description, seeing as Tertiary Meats natural habitat is nestled in 3 layers of pugs.

Finally, we see eye to eye.

there was a time when this simply wasnt true, once Tertiary meat was literally the strongest AD pvp guild, in the time of the buff servers we where a super power, HAVOK was the only guild that could beat us in a stack v stack fight. man.......... what the hell happened?

Some people left the game, others are taking breaks and may return later. Others *ahem* simply left the guild, which is fine since you wanted to do something different.

What is not true is that we stack with pugs. Maybe you'll spot one of us among them zerg surfing when the guild isn't running, but we do our best to stay away from such groups. They still work hard to catch up to us and leech off our AP, but then we try to move away from them again - that's the main reason you tend to see us more at back keeps. Anything on the front lines and we'll be inundated with pugs. What really messes up a bleakers farm is the ability to spawn at outposts now, worst change in our opinion. Get a good farm going and a bunch of AD spawn there to "help" because they wiped to half their numbers at Ash or BRK.

Magus

Gather around children for story time.

TM were once "The Elder Trolls" under Murderthumbs leadership. I took my only break from the game shortly after launch to play Wildstar and when I came back, Murderthumbs was gone and there was a new guild (because he didn't transfer GM) with all the same people in it called Tertiary Meat that had a weird almost merged with Alacrity thing going on with half of the people in that, and then TM split off from that completely.

Primary meatbag, secondary meatbag, tertiary meatbag.... hey, look at that, yes at a time TM did have a minimum of 3 meatbags in most keep defenses and sometimes open field fights, much to the ire of other guilds. One member we recruited along the way is the infamous Vujk, who was also a DIG member, who then taught the ways of siege defense on keeps to DIG, from where it spread on. So, I feel like one of the legacy's of TM was teaching AD how to generally be very annoying with siege and one of our longstanding rivalry guilds GoS picked up on the siege game too. Other guilds gave them the same hate for their sieging that TM received over the years.

TM has never claimed or tried to be the best guild in the game. Some members were more competitive than others to be sure. They never went to the big servers to fight against the top guilds, mostly because of lag. TM really has been about having fun and social, not the best in the game. That may be one reason, they are probably one of the longest running and active guilds in the game, while other adversaries did not last. Striving to be the very best can and will lead to burnout. This is easier to manage on an individual level because you can go play another game, do other content, etc but if you are a raid lead that has to corral 10+ people and get them to enact some level of discipline to play at the top of their game, then is no easy task.

Side note, our siege game these days is no where it used to be, which is ironic because siege is so broken OP in Azura's. And like Kart said, TM does as much as they can to get away from other members of the alliance if the group size is large enough to fight a faction. The way rezzing at outposts works now, makes that more difficult than ever though.

Scrub_Potato

Rickter wrote: »

who was that EP werewolf horde last night? that was probably one of the coolest things i had ever seen!

Apparently it is a guild. They normally run small mans, but every Wednesday (Or every other Wednesday) they have a WWW, Werewolf Wednesday, where the invite anyone who is a werewolf to join their group. Had a friend who ran with them, they got up to 15 people at one point and were wrecking everything lol, was really cool.

Grunim

Magus wrote: »

Gather around children for story time.

TM were once "The Elder Trolls" under Murderthumbs leadership. I took my only break from the game shortly after launch to play Wildstar and when I came back, Murderthumbs was gone and there was a new guild (because he didn't transfer GM) with all the same people in it called Tertiary Meat that had a weird almost merged with Alacrity thing going on with half of the people in that, and then TM split off from that completely.

Primary meatbag, secondary meatbag, tertiary meatbag.... hey, look at that, yes at a time TM did have a minimum of 3 meatbags in most keep defenses and sometimes open field fights, much to the ire of other guilds. One member we recruited along the way is the infamous Vujk, who was also a DIG member, who then taught the ways of siege defense on keeps to DIG, from where it spread on. So, I feel like one of the legacy's of TM was teaching AD how to generally be very annoying with siege and one of our longstanding rivalry guilds GoS picked up on the siege game too. Other guilds gave them the same hate for their sieging that TM received over the years.

TM has never claimed or tried to be the best guild in the game. Some members were more competitive than others to be sure. They never went to the big servers to fight against the top guilds, mostly because of lag. TM really has been about having fun and social, not the best in the game. That may be one reason, they are probably one of the longest running and active guilds in the game, while other adversaries did not last. Striving to be the very best can and will lead to burnout. This is easier to manage on an individual level because you can go play another game, do other content, etc but if you are a raid lead that has to corral 10+ people and get them to enact some level of discipline to play at the top of their game, then is no easy task.

Side note, our siege game these days is no where it used to be, which is ironic because siege is so broken OP in Azura's. And like Kart said, TM does as much as they can to get away from other members of the alliance if the group size is large enough to fight a faction. The way rezzing at outposts works now, makes that more difficult than ever though.

I wish this post could be stickied in any thread that involves a campaign where TM is homed. Thank you @Magus for taking the time to share some history.