Resurrecting others - why should we?

manavortex

Hey there,

now that you've read the rhetoric question in the thread title, I have spent two skillpoints into the faster rezzing passive and keep scraping of the deep-fried remains of whoever didn't manage to go out of the giant sizzling oil puddle myself. But I find myself wondering why nobody else does it. After all, dead players can fight another day (or another oil tick) - right?

I figure that it is because there's no noticeable reward to it. Of course, doing it might tip the fate of battle in the direction of peoples' faction, but that's beyond the average reptile brain (which seems to be all that many people are using during battle. If you are reading this: I made this sentence so long to be able to point out to you that you're the exception. Your reptile brain would have skipped to the TL;DR already.) And not only does resurrecting others not gain me anything but 50 AP - which makes it less rewarding than repairing a keep wall-, it also eats up my soul gems, which are quite pricey on the long run. I propose to change this.

Have resurrections reward AP the same way repairing a keep wall or door does:
After all, it eats a non-self-replenishing resource just the same. 50 AP is just too little.

Have the Rewards of the Spammey send me soul gems:
If Warlord Zimmeron insists on sending me a mail every twenty minutes, he might as well include something useful instead of more deconstruction gear. Why not attach 1d6 soul gems per mail?

Just my two copper. I hope you consider this.



TL;DR:
Suggestion: Resurrecting others should yield AP like repairing a keep. Rewards of the Worthy should regularly include filled Soul Gems.

Zaldan

I was under the impression resurrecting people did give AP already, no?

Taylor_MB

Both your suggestions already happen.

React

Resurrection already gives ap. However, perhaps that value could be SLIGHTLY increased, to provide a little more incentive but not enough to make it abuse able. As for the mail, I've never run out of soul gems with the already steady flow I get from rewards for the worthy, dungeons, etc. In fact, they accumulate faster than I can use them and I've probably got about 2k on my main toon.

manavortex

In (estimate ) ovar 9000 Rewards of the Worthy, I got a single soul gem... I've made five or six ranks over the week. I don't think that's enough.

And the amount should be raised to match the repair tick, then.

FleetwoodSmack

manavortex wrote: »

In (estimate ) ovar 9000 Rewards of the Worthy, I got a single soul gem... I've made five or six ranks over the week. I don't think that's enough.

And the amount should be raised to match the repair tick, then.

Trust me. When the majority of the end game people are literally swimming in soul gems (we seriously can't even GIVE them away), you don't want that clogging up your mail.

As for raising, there's other factors that go with this.

• Are they right smack-dab in the middle of a bunch of siege/oil/AoE?
• Are they in the middle of a zerg?
• Are they invisible?
• Is there a zerg incoming?

You also have the group clique mentality, or they didn't 'stack on crown', and a slew of other things. The fact that these things are already in there (AP grants I believe 50 AP per raise, which I think is the same as using a kit), and if you do a lot of content along with having the right passives, you won't run out of soul gems. Do I think there should be a little more incentive to raise someone? Sure! However what you're proposing is already in there and if you ask most experienced PvPers (and PvEers for that matter), you'll find that they're sitting on thousands of soul gems. I use mine for vendor cash.

manavortex

You can't give them away? Throw them to me, I'm playing on EU Will redistribute them if I get too many.

Vapirko

I find that most people do, I certainly do whenever possible. I think that a lot of people are afraid of dying and/or misjudge when they can safely rez someone in the heat of battle. Only once in a while does someone just run by. Actually, I got a bit angry at someone who ran by me and whispered them, turns out they were just out of gems. I felt like an ass.

FleetwoodSmack

manavortex wrote: »

You can't give them away? Throw them to me, I'm playing on EU Will redistribute them if I get too many.

Pretty much! It's pretty bad in PC-NA. If I end up grouped with someone new, I'll usually give them a stack or two just so they can do raises and I can have bag space. The best way to get soul gems is pretty much just do your writs, fill those up, hit a bunch of dungeons, do your pledges, and they all add up fairly fast. A friend of mine's sitting on I think 4 or 5k. I was sitting on 2.4k before I gave away some of mine and sold the rest a week or two ago and now I'm sitting back up around 1.3k again.

manavortex

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

The best way to get soul gems is pretty much just do your writs, fill those up, hit a bunch of dungeons, do your pledges, and they all add up fairly fast.

I'm doing a lot of writs, but I'm too lazy to run daily pledges. They're draining pretty quickly right now due to PVP, but after the week is over I guess that'll not be as much a problem...

It seems that the problem is not the general lack of soul gems, then, but the lack of a working distribution system.

RinaldoGandolphi

I rez everyone I see dead on my alliance no matter what. Even if we have had disagreements. I am a 100% team player, and there is no "I" in "team" and everyone of my color is part of my team.

Soulgems are so easy to get I have a few thousand of them in my bank alone. I just want to contribute in anyway I can, and someone has to pick up where Columba left off

t3hdubzy

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

I rez everyone I see dead on my alliance no matter what. Even if we have had disagreements. I am a 100% team player, and there is no "I" in "team" and everyone of my color is part of my team.

Soulgems are so easy to get I have a few thousand of them in my bank alone. I just want to contribute in anyway I can, and someone has to pick up where Columba left off

Same

NightbladeMechanics

Who's having "Can someone send me some soul gems?" flashbacks from Jordaen and Yoyuyi in Legend? Man now I miss those days..

But to be serious...

I bet if you go into the main zone (Craglorn in EU?) and say "Hey, I'm new, and I like to res people in PvP, and I never have enough soul gems. Can someone send me any extras?" you'll get a ton in the mail.

MLRPZ

No thank you. Zergling already spam rezzes enough, they don't need to be rewarded on top of it

Publius_Scipio

You res people because it's the right thing to do.

Zinaroth

manavortex wrote: »

In (estimate ) ovar 9000 Rewards of the Worthy, I got a single soul gem... I've made five or six ranks over the week. I don't think that's enough.

And the amount should be raised to match the repair tick, then.

You get a reward of the worthy roughly every 20.000 AP you make so 90.000 rewards of the worthy mails are about 1.800.000.000 AP. Congratulations on the 28 times Grand Overlord during this week, well done!

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Both your suggestions already happen.

This.

IcyDeadPeople

The main reward for rezzing people is not the AP but the karma - it's not fun to sit there dead on the ground and hopefully somebody will also rez you when you die.

At launch I leveled a few characters in Cyrodiil from level 10 and went broke buying grand soul gems from guild traders because at the time there was no other way for lowbie to obtain them.

Valorin

Hm. If people are swimming in soulgems (I know I do) and feel rewarded (yeah... I do), why are still so many players not resurrecting others (well, I do)?

ku5h

Value of grand soulgems in guild stores is less then what random merchant will give you.

Minalan

Why? Because you want your team to win and numbers count in any fight.

DisgracefulMind

I rez anyone I see dead because, idk, I like to? lol

efster

I rez everyone I can unless they are dead in or next to a keep that is not under attack. In that case I assume they have their reasons for not rezzing up.

Friendlies will usually rez you if it is safe. If you expect others to attempt rezzing you while there are 5 enemies spamming magelights/flare/aoe in your general vicinity, maybe adjust your expectations a lil.

Artemiisia

I have over 5k soul gems, from just doing dungeons and such, and I ress alot of people in pvp, its what can win the keep/farm fight getting people up to fight yet again

FriedEggSandwich

To help a fallen comrade, it helps them get good faster. I agree that soul gems should be eaiser to obtain for pvpers, people don't realise that if all you do is pvp then you spend more soul gems than you earn. Having said that though it doesn't take long to earn a few stacks from pve.

Osteos

It would be nice to get a few less decisive mauls of transmutation or lightning staves of fury and instead get 5 filled soul gems.

Rohamad_Ali

I drop camps because I was to win .

Kram8ion

Not rezing when you are able is just mean
It's as bad as making someone pay for a bite
Let's face it the animation looks like your blowing smoke up a corpses ***

Knootewoot

I have the passive and wear Kragnerac for one reason. To rez my buddies. Lots of people rez. I don't need reward for it. I get a bit AP. I buy gems for that AP. Others buy camps. It is a teamgame. No rez or camp means you lose when enemy does.

biminirwb17_ESO

I miss the good ol' days when you could fill soul gems by "killing" the siege target dummies.

ellahellabella

Templar with res support passives, wearing Kags and assisting cp passives is a total nut house right now.

Sandman929

I had someone stand over me, not rezzing me, simply because I declined a pug invite earlier. This community is full of petulant little children.

I rezz everyone in my faction because it's the right way to act.