ESO Sorcerer PvP Build with UNLIMITED Sustain - Homestead Update!

MLRPZ

LegendaryMage wrote: »

Yeah, I'm not a part of zerg squad unfortunately.

Btw will the zerglings take me if I apply?

no

Wollust

Shout out to the mods for keeping this thread open. You guys are the real MVPs today.

Cadbury

Serious talk, this thread always puts a smile on my face whenever I pop it open.

Stay thirsty, my friends

Sanct16

AyelineESO

Sanct16 wrote: »

Inb4 "But its a peppermill"

Subversus

Chair

VoiDGhOs7

Chair wrote: »

Finally someone who posted the picture of Sanct's Secret Saltmine now everyone is gonna be able to draw from it.

Jaybe_Mawfaka

Guys, cmon - the show must go on

TheAntiHero

glad to see this thread has stayed relevant to the original post....

MLRPZ

We have unlimited ressources of salt, so it kinda stays relevant

Chair

TheAntiHero wrote: »

glad to see this thread has stayed relevant to the original post....

Salt is always relevant.

Ahzek

Hexys wrote: »

For me a good player, is a player that can score in dueling, 1vX, small group pvp, leading groups in cyrodiil and can succeed very well on all classes. That's a good pvp player. Dueling is just a small part, and in these last patches not even worth of any respect!

Im trash confirmed

Sanct16

MLRPZ wrote: »

We have unlimited ressources of salt, so it kinda stays relevant

I will summon a salt atronach!!

Kr3do

LegendaryMage wrote: »

If anyone else is giving you a hard time from EU, just let me know. I'll happily roast them all until they're quiet and behaving again.

@Synndrel

Subversus

Kr3do wrote: »

LegendaryMage wrote: »

If anyone else is giving you a hard time from EU, just let me know. I'll happily roast them all until they're quiet and behaving again.

@Synndrel

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Chair

RIP Old Salt Thread

Kronos_Ice

@Dracane

I can't vouch for anything that @LegendaryMage has said about you in the past with you being a trash beg of a duelist however.

I can happily say that you never go into open world pvp. All you do is sit in Imperial city with necro/imp physique, unlimited resources just hammering anyone who comes in. Cheese build ftw right?

On top of that, oh yeah... You use destro ulti! Wow! Not forgetting that your name is all over the forums moaning that destro ulti doesn't need a nerf. Please.

Your build is literally destro ult, you're no better than any Tremor/Viper player. Please sweep your ego under the rug and learn to play with skill, then maybe people will respect you on these forums.

People can easily kill you because you have low health? nah, you just spam shields.

I literally cannot wait for this next update, to see your gaming career in PvP just fall even lower into the ground.

One more thing... You follow people into PvP servers, just so you can tea bag and trash players again and again, despite them trying to get away to another server.

You're no good guy, stop blowing your own horn all over this community.

Ghostbane

Faso be delighted with all this outcome. The build worked.

Dracane

I think it's funny, that Mage starts a crusade against pet builds and other complex builds.
He tried pet sorc and failed mostly. He lacks the understanding to master complexer builds than simple mine camp and shieldstack.

He is alright as long as it stays basic and easy. But as soon as it includes micromanaging, aka pet build, he doesn't get it.
So all he can do, is starting a campaign against everyone using these builds and make them look and feel bad about it, especially when they are succesfull with them where he is not. It's making sense

TreeHugger1 wrote: »

Please guys, all of this drama is thanks to me.
Dracane and mage are only the actors.
Anyway mage you say dracane was a noob 2 years ago, I guess 2 years passed since then:p

It's true, it took me a very long time to become decent and good. Because it took me long to find what suits me.
But I don't need to listen to such things anymore. I know what I can and what I have achieved so far and many know it as well, no matter if they want to admit or not.

But I also don't need to make it public anymore. I don't want to be the best or something. I do my thing and enjoy the game and that's all that matters.

TheAntiHero

Ghostbane wrote: »

Faso be delighted with all this outcome. The build worked.

The salt sustain from this build is op

TheAntiHero

Dracane wrote: »

I think it's funny, that Mage starts a crusade against pet builds and other complex builds.
He tried pet sorc and failed mostly. He lacks the understanding to master complexer builds than simple mine camp and shieldstack.

He is alright as long as it stays basic and easy. But as soon as it includes micromanaging, aka pet build, he doesn't get it.
So all he can do, is starting a campaign against everyone using these builds and make them look and feel bad about it, especially when they are succesfull with them where he is not. It's making sense

Idk who you are really but I will say no matter the way you look at it, magicka Sorc vs magicka Sorc, a pet build has a HUGE advantage over other normal sorcerers. It's simply a fact of the game right now. You can't really debate that. People I fight with my normal setup I take 15 minutes to kill or stalemate and when I run a pet build, it takes 30 seconds. Now vs a Stam dk etc it starts to be debatable of course as mine camp weave etc is good against them.

I do respect the open world pet players so kudos to you if you do TRUE open world cyrodiil pvp that way. But imperial physique/necro pet build IC close quarters is just a tel var farm at that point lol

In terms of everyone on my thread saying "I'm a better dueler" cmon. Dueling isn't skill based anymore, skill is open world 1vX, small man type things.

Dracane

Kronos_Ice wrote: »

@Dracane

I can't vouch for anything that @LegendaryMage has said about you in the past with you being a trash beg of a duelist however.

I can happily say that you never go into open world pvp. All you do is sit in Imperial city with necro/imp physique, unlimited resources just hammering anyone who comes in. Cheese build ftw right?

On top of that, oh yeah... You use destro ulti! Wow! Not forgetting that your name is all over the forums moaning that destro ulti doesn't need a nerf. Please.

Your build is literally destro ult, you're no better than any Tremor/Viper player. Please sweep your ego under the rug and learn to play with skill, then maybe people will respect you on these forums.

People can easily kill you because you have low health? nah, you just spam shields.

I literally cannot wait for this next update, to see your gaming career in PvP just fall even lower into the ground.

One more thing... You follow people into PvP servers, just so you can tea bag and trash players again and again, despite them trying to get away to another server.

You're no good guy, stop blowing your own horn all over this community.

I'm not a good person No
And I will become soooo much stronger next patch. So many buffs coming my way and I will be so much more powerful.
But I am not seeking for respect or something I just play and have fun, that's all I care about. I couldn't care less for anyone elses opinion.... I gladly try to clarify my intentions etc. but that's pointless anyway. Because people like you judge others by so meaningless things. You don't know how I actually am, so please, let it go.

Dracane

TheAntiHero wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I think it's funny, that Mage starts a crusade against pet builds and other complex builds.
He tried pet sorc and failed mostly. He lacks the understanding to master complexer builds than simple mine camp and shieldstack.

He is alright as long as it stays basic and easy. But as soon as it includes micromanaging, aka pet build, he doesn't get it.
So all he can do, is starting a campaign against everyone using these builds and make them look and feel bad about it, especially when they are succesfull with them where he is not. It's making sense

Idk who you are really but I will say no matter the way you look at it, magicka Sorc vs magicka Sorc, a pet build has a HUGE advantage over other normal sorcerers. It's simply a fact of the game right now. You can't really debate that. People I fight with my normal setup I take 15 minutes to kill or stalemate and when I run a pet build, it takes 30 seconds. Now vs a Stam dk etc it starts to be debatable of course as mine camp weave etc is good against them.

I do respect the open world pet players so kudos to you if you do TRUE open world cyrodiil pvp that way. But imperial physique/necro pet build IC close quarters is just a tel var farm at that point lol

In terms of everyone on my thread saying "I'm a better dueler" cmon. Dueling isn't skill based anymore, skill is open world 1vX, small man type things.

Pet Sorc definately has the upper hand in Sorc vs Sorc, that's not a contest but I can't see where I said anything else.

I just enjoy IC pvp the most, for several reasons. Cyrodiil is so unfriendly for solo players, because you see 1 person, and 20 more jump on you out of stealth. It's hard to find good fights there that are suited for a solo player. I want to have some kind of awarness of what's going on and that's almost impossible in Cyrodiil nowadays

I do in fact play in Cyrodiil sometimes. But that's mostly in pvp villages I have to admit and when I fight around keeps, then not alone.

TheAntiHero

Dracane wrote: »

Kronos_Ice wrote: »

@Dracane

I can't vouch for anything that @LegendaryMage has said about you in the past with you being a trash beg of a duelist however.

I can happily say that you never go into open world pvp. All you do is sit in Imperial city with necro/imp physique, unlimited resources just hammering anyone who comes in. Cheese build ftw right?

On top of that, oh yeah... You use destro ulti! Wow! Not forgetting that your name is all over the forums moaning that destro ulti doesn't need a nerf. Please.

Your build is literally destro ult, you're no better than any Tremor/Viper player. Please sweep your ego under the rug and learn to play with skill, then maybe people will respect you on these forums.

People can easily kill you because you have low health? nah, you just spam shields.

I literally cannot wait for this next update, to see your gaming career in PvP just fall even lower into the ground.

One more thing... You follow people into PvP servers, just so you can tea bag and trash players again and again, despite them trying to get away to another server.

You're no good guy, stop blowing your own horn all over this community.

I'm not a good person No
And I will become soooo much stronger next patch. So many buffs coming my way and I will be so much more powerful.
But I am not seeking for respect or something I just play and have fun, that's all I care about. I couldn't care less for anyone elses opinion.... I gladly try to clarify my intentions etc. but that's pointless anyway. Because people like you judge others by so meaningless things. You don't know how I actually am, so please, let it go.

"I couldn't care less for anyone's opinion" continuously posts on the thread when people say their opinion of you trying to defend yourself.

I'm not taking sides I don't like this whole thread drama it's supposed to be over a new sorcerer build people can try out; but that is an ironic statement.

@LegendaryMage putting legendary in your name incites people to do this by the way. You feed the fire so it's all just hypocrisy here.

Faso had something interesting to say about this

-pet builds are the same thing as a tremor viper meta is now in duels if they are fighting a magicka sorcerer, you cannot expect to win as they have a mathematical dps advarange as well as extremely wanky zos targeting so trying to target the player doesn't mean your attacks don't hit pets, same as how engine Guardian works.

- he says mage plays like every other Sorc but gets ridiculed for it (I.e mine and atro) which he thinks is biased

- he thinks mage is feeding fire and therefore making all of his statements redundant

-he only respects open world per builds in cyrodiil ,duels with pets are an easy win against 95 pct of playerbase due to massive dps . If you have an understanding of Sorc you can do pets quite well with weaves and button cancels for pet triggers

-to dracane - 5 necro 3 ancient grace master staves with max magicka's/two infernal isn't very secretive it's not revolutionary

- mage has dueled one of the best players of all time on NA and did okay against him, I would think he'd be better than what most people are suggesting saying he is trash.

-vitality pot argonian dk with perma block is sort o cheese but it's what you gotta do as a small man so it is what it is, but it is no less cheese than pets, in essence same thing ya know? So again redundant statements all around

- brush your teeth

TheAntiHero

Dracane wrote: »

TheAntiHero wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I think it's funny, that Mage starts a crusade against pet builds and other complex builds.
He tried pet sorc and failed mostly. He lacks the understanding to master complexer builds than simple mine camp and shieldstack.

He is alright as long as it stays basic and easy. But as soon as it includes micromanaging, aka pet build, he doesn't get it.
So all he can do, is starting a campaign against everyone using these builds and make them look and feel bad about it, especially when they are succesfull with them where he is not. It's making sense

Idk who you are really but I will say no matter the way you look at it, magicka Sorc vs magicka Sorc, a pet build has a HUGE advantage over other normal sorcerers. It's simply a fact of the game right now. You can't really debate that. People I fight with my normal setup I take 15 minutes to kill or stalemate and when I run a pet build, it takes 30 seconds. Now vs a Stam dk etc it starts to be debatable of course as mine camp weave etc is good against them.

I do respect the open world pet players so kudos to you if you do TRUE open world cyrodiil pvp that way. But imperial physique/necro pet build IC close quarters is just a tel var farm at that point lol

In terms of everyone on my thread saying "I'm a better dueler" cmon. Dueling isn't skill based anymore, skill is open world 1vX, small man type things.

Pet Sorc definately has the upper hand in Sorc vs Sorc, that's not a contest but I can't see where I said anything else.

I just enjoy IC pvp the most, for several reasons. Cyrodiil is so unfriendly for solo players, because you see 1 person, and 20 more jump on you out of stealth. It's hard to find good fights there that are suited for a solo player. I want to have some kind of awarness of what's going on and that's almost impossible in Cyrodiil nowadays

I do in fact play in Cyrodiil sometimes. But that's mostly in pvp villages I have to admit and when I fight around keeps, then not alone.

I think the point people are trying to say is claiming skill of pets is very meh esp against other magicka sorcs. Kodi and faso had some very fair duels. Setups were no pirate only Dbs destro resto and no harness. Very fun fights to watch on yesterday's stream. EU should hold things like that

GrigorijMalahevich

@Dracane you should start selling salt. Gonna make a fortune.

Dracane

Valera Progib wrote: »

@Dracane you should start selling salt. Gonna make a fortune.

I can sell you Hakeijo if you want.

Lore_lai

Damn...
EU forum drama is like a friggin dormant volcano o.o

Ahzek

TheAntiHero wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Kronos_Ice wrote: »

@Dracane

I can't vouch for anything that @LegendaryMage has said about you in the past with you being a trash beg of a duelist however.

I can happily say that you never go into open world pvp. All you do is sit in Imperial city with necro/imp physique, unlimited resources just hammering anyone who comes in. Cheese build ftw right?

On top of that, oh yeah... You use destro ulti! Wow! Not forgetting that your name is all over the forums moaning that destro ulti doesn't need a nerf. Please.

Your build is literally destro ult, you're no better than any Tremor/Viper player. Please sweep your ego under the rug and learn to play with skill, then maybe people will respect you on these forums.

People can easily kill you because you have low health? nah, you just spam shields.

I literally cannot wait for this next update, to see your gaming career in PvP just fall even lower into the ground.

One more thing... You follow people into PvP servers, just so you can tea bag and trash players again and again, despite them trying to get away to another server.

You're no good guy, stop blowing your own horn all over this community.

I'm not a good person No
And I will become soooo much stronger next patch. So many buffs coming my way and I will be so much more powerful.
But I am not seeking for respect or something I just play and have fun, that's all I care about. I couldn't care less for anyone elses opinion.... I gladly try to clarify my intentions etc. but that's pointless anyway. Because people like you judge others by so meaningless things. You don't know how I actually am, so please, let it go.

"I couldn't care less for anyone's opinion" continuously posts on the thread when people say their opinion of you trying to defend yourself.

I'm not taking sides I don't like this whole thread drama it's supposed to be over a new sorcerer build people can try out; but that is an ironic statement.

@LegendaryMage putting legendary in your name incites people to do this by the way. You feed the fire so it's all just hypocrisy here.

Faso had something interesting to say about this

-pet builds are the same thing as a tremor viper meta is now in duels if they are fighting a magicka sorcerer, you cannot expect to win as they have a mathematical dps advarange as well as extremely wanky zos targeting so trying to target the player doesn't mean your attacks don't hit pets, same as how engine Guardian works.

- he says mage plays like every other Sorc but gets ridiculed for it (I.e mine and atro) which he thinks is biased

- he thinks mage is feeding fire and therefore making all of his statements redundant

-he only respects open world per builds in cyrodiil ,duels with pets are an easy win against 95 pct of playerbase due to massive dps . If you have an understanding of Sorc you can do pets quite well with weaves and button cancels for pet triggers

-to dracane - 5 necro 3 ancient grace master staves with max magicka's/two infernal isn't very secretive it's not revolutionary

- mage has dueled one of the best players of all time on NA and did okay against him, I would think he'd be better than what most people are suggesting saying he is trash.

-vitality pot argonian dk with perma block is sort o cheese but it's what you gotta do as a small man so it is what it is, but it is no less cheese than pets, in essence same thing ya know? So again redundant statements all around

- brush your teeth

Could you keep your cold, distant and emotionless statements away from our drama thread please ?