Token System for VMA & VDSA

Paneross

My idea:

After you complete VDSA or VMA you can exchange what ever weapon you get for a token. (same token for Master and Maelstrom)

Then you have a vendor that has all the weapons obtainable for 5 tokens. Shoot let the trait be random still, so ZoS can keep the thing RnG.

Junipus

It's the weekly forum tradition back again.

Happy RNGesus everyone!

Shey

No

I dont understand why everyone wants mealstorm weapons, the staves for example are looking so aweful... I recomment Khajit Staves only because they increase my concentration alot and they look awesome.

@SantieClaws

susmitds

Yes

Shey wrote: »

I dont understand why everyone wants mealstorm weapons, the staves for example are looking so aweful... I recomment Khajit Staves only because they increase my concentration alot and they look awesome.

@SantieClaws

@Shey Use a Maelstrom bow once and you will find it hard to use other bows.

idk

No

Shey wrote: »

I dont understand why everyone wants mealstorm weapons, the staves for example are looking so aweful... I recomment Khajit Staves only because they increase my concentration alot and they look awesome.

@SantieClaws

@SantieClaws maybe Khajiit but the Pope is Imperial.

Just thought this thread could use more odd and pointless humor.

SantieClaws

Someone woke khajiit?

Nothing for this one to do here. Time to go back to my cosy little home behind a pile of logs in The Rosy Lion - this one she calls it "The Floor".

Also to be relevant almost everything it looks better if it looks khajiit yes.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

NewBlacksmurf

No

Geez no.

Honestly the RNG is fine. The only change you all need to suggest are to remove certain item possibilities from this particular loot table

You should not be required to do X number of runs to get "tokens" to exchange for goods

Terrible to add this

Soella

Yes

Probably not 5 but 10, but it should be guaranteed within reasonable time.

Jaronking

Yes

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Geez no.

Honestly the RNG is fine. The only change you all need to suggest are to remove certain item possibilities from this particular loot table

You should not be required to do X number of runs to get "tokens" to exchange for goods

Terrible to add this

Your telling me RNG is fine when I have done 300 runs of VMA and has never received a sharpened 2h or DW weapon?RNG in this game is far from fine its the worst in any game I played

Tryxus

Yes

Is it that time of the month again?

Paneross

Yes

Shey wrote: »

I dont understand why everyone wants mealstorm weapons, the staves for example are looking so aweful... I recomment Khajit Staves only because they increase my concentration alot and they look awesome.

@SantieClaws

My Master Bow wrecks in PvP.

Katahdin

Yes

Token system is needed. Maybe something like one token per normal run 2 tokens for a Vet run and 50-100 tokens for items at a token vendor.

That way you still have to work for it, but at least you can reach you goal sometime before you die.

Paneross

Yes

Tryxus wrote: »

Is it that time of the month again?

Thaaaaaaats right!

Junipus

Tryxus wrote: »

Is it that time of the month again?

Month??

Izaki

Yes

I GOT A NIRNHONED INFERNO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay for that back bar yes?

Nah. I'm a perfectionist. Need the Sharpened one. Oh well, 200 more runs and I'll surely get a Precise one! In a few years I might get the one I want so bad.

NewBlacksmurf

No

Jaronking wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Geez no.

Honestly the RNG is fine. The only change you all need to suggest are to remove certain item possibilities from this particular loot table

You should not be required to do X number of runs to get "tokens" to exchange for goods

Terrible to add this

Your telling me RNG is fine when I have done 300 runs of VMA and has never received a sharpened 2h or DW weapon?RNG in this game is far from fine its the worst in any game I played

@Jaronking
I'm telling you exactly what I wrote above. I'm not saying what you wrote

Danksta

Yes

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Geez no.

Honestly the RNG is fine. The only change you all need to suggest are to remove certain item possibilities from this particular loot table

You should not be required to do X number of runs to get "tokens" to exchange for goods

Terrible to add this

With the OP's suggestion you wouldn't be required to, you could keep the weapon OR exchange for a token.

idk

No

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Geez no.

Honestly the RNG is fine. The only change you all need to suggest are to remove certain item possibilities from this particular loot table

You should not be required to do X number of runs to get "tokens" to exchange for goods

Terrible to add this

^^^^ this. Especially since a token system would. It reduced the number of threads about vMA weapons.

It would only change the title for fo "Is X vMA runs for tokens to many for a single weapon"

Paneross

Yes

Danksta wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Geez no.

Honestly the RNG is fine. The only change you all need to suggest are to remove certain item possibilities from this particular loot table

You should not be required to do X number of runs to get "tokens" to exchange for goods

Terrible to add this

With the OP's suggestion you wouldn't be required to, you could keep the weapon OR exchange for a token.

Correct. You wouldn't be getting just tokens. You have the option to keep the weapon OR turn it into a token.

Danksta

Yes

Yes, but I think Maelstrom and Master tokens should be separate.

I would be ok with a random cycle instead of tokens as well. By that I mean before getting duplicates you would have already cycled through all weapon/trait combinations. Maybe DW weapons would appear twice per cycle. It still guarantees you'll get your weapon eventually instead of most likely get it eventually. Running vMA 500+ times and still not getting your desired weapon should not be a thing.

Sallington

Yes

No-brainer.

redspecter23

There are a number of potential fixes here. Tokens would be one way. I'm just happy that threads like this keep coming up so that ZOS is reminded that this is an issue for many players and they will hopefully do something at some point to keep insane RNG in check.

Paneross

Yes

redspecter23 wrote: »

There are a number of potential fixes here. Tokens would be one way. I'm just happy that threads like this keep coming up so that ZOS is reminded that this is an issue for many players and they will hopefully do something at some point to keep insane RNG in check.

They keep coming up yes, but is ZoS acknowledging reoccurring issues and concerns?

helediron

Yes

I am staying out until there is something more predictable, like tokens.

Jaronking

Yes

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Geez no.

Honestly the RNG is fine. The only change you all need to suggest are to remove certain item possibilities from this particular loot table

You should not be required to do X number of runs to get "tokens" to exchange for goods

Terrible to add this

Your telling me RNG is fine when I have done 300 runs of VMA and has never received a sharpened 2h or DW weapon?RNG in this game is far from fine its the worst in any game I played

@Jaronking
I'm telling you exactly what I wrote above. I'm not saying what you wrote

No what your saying is RNG in this game is Fine when actuality its broken.

jakeedmundson

Yes

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Geez no.

Honestly the RNG is fine. The only change you all need to suggest are to remove certain item possibilities from this particular loot table

You should not be required to do X number of runs to get "tokens" to exchange for goods

Terrible to add this

Um.... no.... no it's not "fine"
Either you don't run it... or you got your sharpened weapons quicker than most. (I don't care either way and i'm not going to look up your runs, twitch, etc.)
The RNG in this place is a nightmare. No one wants to run the same thing 100 friggin times and STILL not find something they're looking for...

Does this mean you don't use monster sets then? That is almost the exact same token system the OP is suggesting.
Do a dungeon for a key (or two now) hand those in to a certain chest with a reasonable chance at a set piece you want.
Except you can get 6 keys a day... per character... so that token system is WAYYYY better than this vMA token suggestion.

Father_X_Zombie

Yes

Jaronking wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Geez no.

Honestly the RNG is fine. The only change you all need to suggest are to remove certain item possibilities from this particular loot table

You should not be required to do X number of runs to get "tokens" to exchange for goods

Terrible to add this

Your telling me RNG is fine when I have done 300 runs of VMA and has never received a sharpened 2h or DW weapon?RNG in this game is far from fine its the worst in any game I played

Ouch........ i got mine on my 10th run but i main mag and have no real use for it.........i feel bad........

magnusthorek

No

Wollust

Yes

I've been pretty lucky with the RNG but I know loads that aren't. Poor souls

Paneross

Yes

Wollust wrote: »

I've been pretty lucky with the RNG but I know loads that aren't. Poor souls

It hurts

helediron

Yes

When looking at all the locked "ran 300 times no luck" threads, someone is surely cursing their luck of getting only sharpened daggers and deconning them after finding out housing didn't include more storage.