EP Calls for Aid (PC/NA TF)

IxSTALKERxI

I tried to push DC as much as I could while I was emp. I didn't really mess with EP much at all.

pcar944

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

I tried to push DC as much as I could while I was emp. I didn't really mess with EP much at all.

saw it, was thinking dang, AD going ham, taking Glade twice whithin 1 hour while DC is at Bleaker/Chal gate

ScooberSteve

Im EP and id be happy for AD to win as long as DC dont win again or if DC win we at least come second

aidenmoore

Manoekin wrote: »

Wiping with 20 ppl? For shame.

Well, overwhelming numbers does help. It's the only thing AD rely on.

maxjapank

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Im EP and id be happy for AD to win as long as DC dont win again or if DC win we at least come second

Don't settle for second. EP should push for first. The closer the scores are, the more people will show up to fight. If you let AD or DC get too far ahead, then players just tend to not care and not show up.

antihero727

aidenmoore wrote: »

It's true. Super strong.





Oh, there are 40 more trying to burn the camp on the other side of the keep and I believe 53 more on their way. AD, super stronk!

lol I counted no more than 21 on screen vs a full stack on yours. Looks like some of your group is dead others are not. If you would have pushed as a group instead of a kitty tail of easy ap it might have been different results. Take a pic of this super Zerg in 1 place or it is not a valid point.

ScooberSteve

Seriously EP deserve to lose because we are the most uncoordinated side and will continue to until people are willing to work together as a team. We cant even zerg that how uncoordinated we are we just scatter in random directions.

aidenmoore

antihero727 wrote: »

lol I counted no more than 21 on screen vs a full stack on yours. Looks like some of your group is dead others are not. If you would have pushed as a group instead of a kitty tail of easy ap it might have been different results. Take a pic of this super Zerg in 1 place or it is not a valid point.

You expect those 2 pictures to show you all the AD that we engage at that keep? Trust me, I need a lot more screenshots than that. As I said, there are more scattered all over the keep. Those are just one that are seiging.

Anazasi

antihero727 wrote: »

aidenmoore wrote: »

It's true. Super strong.





Oh, there are 40 more trying to burn the camp on the other side of the keep and I believe 53 more on their way. AD, super stronk!

lol I counted no more than 21 on screen vs a full stack on yours. Looks like some of your group is dead others are not. If you would have pushed as a group instead of a kitty tail of easy ap it might have been different results. Take a pic of this super Zerg in 1 place or it is not a valid point.

I looked at this and thought wow an image of DK, than realized the tabard was not ours and we don't use trebs on doors. But i did notice several names that we had encountered during the night. These images must have been taken after 11pm est when i logged. DK runs 1 raid we do not stack raids and try to avoid hots spots unless we are really defending our homes. DC tends to stack when they roll south that was the problem last night. DC rolled to the south and i took my 20 man group to glad and warden popped them both open in under 6 mins then rolled on ash and took it. If DC wants to leave there realm unprotected keep following the same strategy. AD has the ability to blitz with a well coordinated guild group that understands how to counter stacking blobs. Great fights all night long.

antihero727

I have screenshots too

How many EP does it take to kill 1 AD - 16

Elong

Manoekin wrote: »

Resorting to off-hour dethrones

Is AD the strongest faction in the game?

This got quite a few fish reeled in haha.

NACtron

AzuraKin wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

May of this year was the last time EP won the Trueflame Campaign. May. Since May we have come close to victory several times. Especially over the summer months, but the last couple campaign cycles we have fallen out of our ability to compete with other factions in terms of campaign scoring. We are often 2-3000 points behind second place. What's changed?

We have lost ALL of our daytime and oceanic guilds. All of them. There are simply none. We used to have several. Wherever those guilds went, whether to other factions or out of the game it does not matter. They took their organizational abilities and their players with them. Leaving behind a often outnumbered and always disorganized faction in the non primetime hours.

Usually when guilds collapse or move on new guilds rise from the ashes. We have seen this in primetime for EP. Right now EP has a powerful arsenal of guilds at its disposal. While we used to struggle in Primetime a few months ago with the collapse of a few EP guilds we are now fully competitive and often excel beyond what the other factions can accomplish. While this great and all (and alot of fun for me as a primetime player) this has not effected the campaign score dramatically. We can't dominate for 3-4 hours and then be missing Chal, Drake and often BRK for the other 20.

What the EP of TF need is more a lot more players, organization and luck outside of primetime. Perhaps you can help with that. If you are an EP that plays in Haddy or Azura's outside of Primetime perhaps you can come help? If you are a AD/DC player getting bored of your faction and want to re-roll, EP right now is the underdog and could use you. If you are an EP player who has always wanted to create a group but never tried, EP needs you in the daytime. Hopefully some will answer and we can get a more balanced and competitive campaign for all of us.
- Nick


On one last note, we are working on creating stronger communication between the EP guilds out there, large and small. A place where we can share tactics, movement, info and get to know each other better as teammates. If you are a raid lead, a officer or a GM of a EP guild please contact @NACtron (Nikolai the Nord) or @Lurtz14 (-Crow) in game for more info

may? someone has very short memory, ep won the first 3 full campaigns after thieves guild launch in march. (april, may, june) and i forget who wone the next 2 i think it was ad if memory serves or ad then ep (july, aug) then dc has won last 3 campaigns (sept, oct, nov).

We came in a close second in march and won April and May by a landslide. Many players and a couple EP guilds felt like we were too powerful and set up for a several month win streak that would demoralize the other factions. In the name of balance they switched over to AD who was really struggling at the time. The DC version of VE switched over to AD in June as well. Resulting in a hard fought victory for AD in June. Since then AD/DC have been winning campaigns with DC winning the last 3. EP has not won since May. That's why I made this forum post cause EP needs to change. Both in it's tactics and organization during the off hours. EP still has not fully recovered since we lost RAM in June and a couple EP guilds that played in the daytime over the last couple months.

Thankfully while EP is not in first ATM we are actually being competitive during most of hours of the day. By this point in the campaign over the last couple months we would already be down by two thousand points. Right now we are within 200-400 of first. We are getting back on our feet. We just need to not get discouraged and stay at it.

NACtron

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.

AD is in first now. By AD's own logic DC and EP should team up to force AD out of first no?

I would really prefer DC does not win another campaign but a team up with AD against DC now would only benefit an AD victory. Which is still not a good outcome for EP.

Manoekin

Elong wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Resorting to off-hour dethrones

Is AD the strongest faction in the game?

This got quite a few fish reeled in haha.

Thank you thank you.

Rohamad_Ali

NACtron wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.

AD is in first now. By AD's own logic DC and EP should team up to force AD out of first no?

I would really prefer DC does not win another campaign but a team up with AD against DC now would only benefit an AD victory. Which is still not a good outcome for EP.

We are totally ok if you keep focusing DC .

NACtron

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.

AD is in first now. By AD's own logic DC and EP should team up to force AD out of first no?

I would really prefer DC does not win another campaign but a team up with AD against DC now would only benefit an AD victory. Which is still not a good outcome for EP.

We are totally ok if you keep focusing DC .

I'm sure you guys are xD

God_flakes

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.

AD is in first now. By AD's own logic DC and EP should team up to force AD out of first no?

I would really prefer DC does not win another campaign but a team up with AD against DC now would only benefit an AD victory. Which is still not a good outcome for EP.

We are totally ok if you keep focusing DC .

Right because AD *must* have their participation trophy.

Celas_Dranacea

NACtron wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.

AD is in first now. By AD's own logic DC and EP should team up to force AD out of first no?

I would really prefer DC does not win another campaign but a team up with AD against DC now would only benefit an AD victory. Which is still not a good outcome for EP.

We are totally ok if you keep focusing DC .

I'm sure you guys are xD

To some extent I would say that It's in AD's best interest to not push EP too much, whether EP wants to reciprocate or not.

The more EP can be a true competitor in the campaign, the less likely DC can run away with it. It's ultimately EP's decision where to focus their attacks.

antihero727

God_flakes wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.

AD is in first now. By AD's own logic DC and EP should team up to force AD out of first no?

I would really prefer DC does not win another campaign but a team up with AD against DC now would only benefit an AD victory. Which is still not a good outcome for EP.

We are totally ok if you keep focusing DC .

Right because AD *must* have their participation trophy.

We pushed north again and I put the word out that I was looking for you but still no sighting. If you spent less time in forums this might be easier. I hope your in game skills are at least 50% of your ability to forum pvp. We would like to show you our participation trophy dance called the skelli squats.

God_flakes

antihero727 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.

AD is in first now. By AD's own logic DC and EP should team up to force AD out of first no?

I would really prefer DC does not win another campaign but a team up with AD against DC now would only benefit an AD victory. Which is still not a good outcome for EP.

We are totally ok if you keep focusing DC .

Right because AD *must* have their participation trophy.

We pushed north again and I put the word out that I was looking for you but still no sighting. If you spent less time in forums this might be easier. I hope your in game skills are at least 50% of your ability to forum pvp. We would like to show you our participation trophy dance called the skelli squats.

I'm flattered that you're looking for me. I was easy to find-my group dragged me to the bridge. was there pretty much all night. As far as my in game skills...last Saturday after the start of the new campaign I was ranked 3 for DC NB and 17 overall. I'm a very casual player, not terribly competitive, enjoy the battle role play. If your ego requires that you kill me and teabag me I can always oblige and come stand in your zerg so you can feel important.

NACtron

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.

AD is in first now. By AD's own logic DC and EP should team up to force AD out of first no?

I would really prefer DC does not win another campaign but a team up with AD against DC now would only benefit an AD victory. Which is still not a good outcome for EP.

We are totally ok if you keep focusing DC .

I'm sure you guys are xD

To some extent I would say that It's in AD's best interest to not push EP too much, whether EP wants to reciprocate or not.

The more EP can be a true competitor in the campaign, the less likely DC can run away with it. It's ultimately EP's decision where to focus their attacks.

Yup! See you on the battlefield!

Telel

aidenmoore wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Wiping with 20 ppl? For shame.

Well, overwhelming numbers does help. It's the only thing AD rely on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRoryWvCynw

and from over a year ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtlhsulPVLI

Celas_Dranacea

NACtron wrote: »

Celas_Dranacea wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

ScooberSteve wrote: »

Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.

AD is in first now. By AD's own logic DC and EP should team up to force AD out of first no?

I would really prefer DC does not win another campaign but a team up with AD against DC now would only benefit an AD victory. Which is still not a good outcome for EP.

We are totally ok if you keep focusing DC .

I'm sure you guys are xD

To some extent I would say that It's in AD's best interest to not push EP too much, whether EP wants to reciprocate or not.

The more EP can be a true competitor in the campaign, the less likely DC can run away with it. It's ultimately EP's decision where to focus their attacks.

Yup! See you on the battlefield!

May it be as Hircine wills it!

pcar944

antihero727 wrote: »

How many EP does it take to kill 1 AD - 16

yeah and we all get zerged and everybody zergs

theres plenty of moments w hen 2 raids of AD come to resource

or 10 DC vs 1 lonely soul at a resource

or EP

it happens, doesn't mean anything

antihero727

pcar944 wrote: »

antihero727 wrote: »

How many EP does it take to kill 1 AD - 16

yeah and we all get zerged and everybody zergs

theres plenty of moments w hen 2 raids of AD come to resource

or 10 DC vs 1 lonely soul at a resource

or EP

it happens, doesn't mean anything

The one pic was actually funny because I did 5 laps around that outpost before a guard eclipsed me. It did take all 15 of those EP but the guard got the killing blow. Yes we all get zerged though.

Rohamad_Ali

We had many good fights with EP last night . Very fun but DC is a priority for AD . We can not miss out on those fantastic and wonderful campaign rewards ever again ! Derp

pcar944

so playing for EP yesterday I noticed a few things (during primetime anyway):

1) your zone chat is MUCH friendlier and generates a lot less salt then DC zone chat

2) the pickup for LFG takes less then 5 seconds after typing it in (and sometimes you don't even have to type it in ... LOL)

3) as a faction, you guys are about as organized as DC right now, more organized and disorganized groups, but when there is something that needs to be done on the map and the whole faction goes for it - you get *** done (same thing with DC)

4) and this used to be SO true for DC - you guys are constantly having to fight off AD at Bridge/Drake/Sej/Arrius while DC h as to fight of AD at Ales/***/Glade/Ash, but the nice thing for you is that DC ALWAYS comes to Bleakers and Chalman - so you guys are NEVER bored with nothing to do ... and even if the map goes really quiet you have the bridge - just kill 1-2 AD trying to pass it and the action picks up

a welcome change so far

Vitaely

aidenmoore wrote: »

Vitaely wrote: »

Also Grog, stop body camping solo players ya zergling.

WHAT? *hold block while bashing ress* In a serious note, I try my best to deny rezzes. That's just me, the less the better. I seriously rarely ever group. I just follow people around.

aidenmoore wrote: »

In a more serious note: Is that Bloodmayne? How do you not expect all the pugs (and some organized groups) to not show up during prime time if you attack trikeeps?

pcar944

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

We had many good fights with EP last night . Very fun but DC is a priority for AD . We can not miss out on those fantastic and wonderful campaign rewards ever again ! Derp

had pleasure of running into you and Dhale and Mano and a few others, nice to see people actually playing the game

DHale

pcar944 wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

We had many good fights with EP last night . Very fun but DC is a priority for AD . We can not miss out on those fantastic and wonderful campaign rewards ever again ! Derp

had pleasure of running into you and Dhale and Mano and a few others, nice to see people actually playing the game

Very cool I switch characters a lot but always have my @name on and I keep my status online. Always tf up top occasionally I go haderus in the IC. After 2.7 years have three people on ignore all from my own faction.