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Celas_Dranacea✭✭✭✭✭doublestuffed wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »
I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.
@NACtron respect to you man, y'all can do whatever you like. I think what some have tried to communicate (perhaps imperfectly and sometimes with poorly veiled insults) is that under the current circumstances it's unlikely that AD or EP are capable of getting 1st if we're constantly in each other's face, and that a temporary and limited truce should be considered.
DC SHOULD take it as a compliment as they have been wiping the floor with us for several months. I've advocated for a similar thing back in the day when EP was an unbeatable juggernaut and DC was perpetually in third.
However, you do make a valid point that perhaps all three teams should continue to beat the crap out of each other as usual, which is great and the default position.
I'll make my completely independent decision that at least for now, I will leave the lands North and East of Cropsford alone to whatever extent I can.
The bridge circle jerk is the reason why ep and ad lose.
This is why AD groups like COH usually push Sej - to break that up - but understanding that EP sees that as an incursion into their lands I am inclined to let the perpetual bridge dance continue. After all, it is an important shared cultural value between our two societies.Edited by Celas_Dranacea on December 2, 2016 4:43PMA Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf1 -
Magus✭✭✭✭✭Whenever I start to feel bad for EP, I log into Had or watch a Haxus farming Brindle video. Sort of like feeling sorry for the inmate serving a life sentence and then you realize what crime was committed.
Best thing I read all day lolDuraeon / Maoh
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✭✭✭✭✭Anyone know the current point standing for each faction? I know AD was ahead last night at 12am by around 240 points but I didn't record the full scores.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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✭✭✭✭doublestuffed wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »
I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.
@NACtron respect to you man, y'all can do whatever you like. I think what some have tried to communicate (perhaps imperfectly and sometimes with poorly veiled insults) is that under the current circumstances it's unlikely that AD or EP are capable of getting 1st if we're constantly in each other's face, and that a temporary and limited truce should be considered.
DC SHOULD take it as a compliment as they have been wiping the floor with us for several months. I've advocated for a similar thing back in the day when EP was an unbeatable juggernaut and DC was perpetually in third.
However, you do make a valid point that perhaps all three teams should continue to beat the crap out of each other as usual, which is great and the default position.
I'll make my completely independent decision that at least for now, I will leave the lands North and East of Cropsford alone to whatever extent I can.
The bridge circle jerk is the reason why ep and ad lose.
The Bleaks -> Chal corridor is why DC loses keeps to AD. I swear the potatoes will bake there all day while AD marches from Roe to Nickel and then takes Ash.
We'll lose Glad and Rayles to yellow, and there will STILL be huge red/blue crossed swords outside of a very red Chalman - all over the place. Meanwhile our scroll is walking to black boot.
I walk over there, and blues aren't even sieging. They're running around in circles in front of the Chal wall while getting slaughtered by enemy siege and bow fire. One EP walks out of the door, 11 DC chase and die to fire trebs.
I don't even sometimes...Edited by Minalan on December 2, 2016 8:29PM3 -
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✭doublestuffed wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »
I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.
@NACtron respect to you man, y'all can do whatever you like. I think what some have tried to communicate (perhaps imperfectly and sometimes with poorly veiled insults) is that under the current circumstances it's unlikely that AD or EP are capable of getting 1st if we're constantly in each other's face, and that a temporary and limited truce should be considered.
DC SHOULD take it as a compliment as they have been wiping the floor with us for several months. I've advocated for a similar thing back in the day when EP was an unbeatable juggernaut and DC was perpetually in third.
However, you do make a valid point that perhaps all three teams should continue to beat the crap out of each other as usual, which is great and the default position.
I'll make my completely independent decision that at least for now, I will leave the lands North and East of Cropsford alone to whatever extent I can.
The bridge circle jerk is the reason why ep and ad lose.
The Bleaks -> Chal corridor is why DC loses keeps to AD. I swear the potatoes will bake there all day while AD marches from Roe to Nickel and then takes Ash.
We'll lose Glad and Rayles to yellow, and there will STILL be huge red/blue crossed swords outside of a very red Chalman - all over the place. Meanwhile our scroll is walking to black boot.
I walk over there, and blues aren't even sieging. They're running around in circles in front of the Chal wall while getting slaughtered by enemy siege and bow fire. One EP walks out of the door, 11 DC chase and die to fire trebs.
I don't even sometimes...
However....yesterday when I encouraged DC to leave EP alone at chal and go to Ash, 4 raids of Ad came out of Ash and slaughtered DC and EP helped as push is to the gates. It was a bloodbath.0 -
aidenmoore✭✭✭✭doublestuffed wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »
I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.
@NACtron respect to you man, y'all can do whatever you like. I think what some have tried to communicate (perhaps imperfectly and sometimes with poorly veiled insults) is that under the current circumstances it's unlikely that AD or EP are capable of getting 1st if we're constantly in each other's face, and that a temporary and limited truce should be considered.
DC SHOULD take it as a compliment as they have been wiping the floor with us for several months. I've advocated for a similar thing back in the day when EP was an unbeatable juggernaut and DC was perpetually in third.
However, you do make a valid point that perhaps all three teams should continue to beat the crap out of each other as usual, which is great and the default position.
I'll make my completely independent decision that at least for now, I will leave the lands North and East of Cropsford alone to whatever extent I can.
The bridge circle jerk is the reason why ep and ad lose.
The Bleaks -> Chal corridor is why DC loses keeps to AD. I swear the potatoes will bake there all day while AD marches from Roe to Nickel and then takes Ash.
We'll lose Glad and Rayles to yellow, and there will STILL be huge red/blue crossed swords outside of a very red Chalman - all over the place. Meanwhile our scroll is walking to black boot.
I walk over there, and blues aren't even sieging. They're running around in circles in front of the Chal wall while getting slaughtered by enemy siege and bow fire. One EP walks out of the door, 11 DC chase and die to fire trebs.
I don't even sometimes...
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antihero727✭✭✭✭✭doublestuffed wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »
I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.
@NACtron respect to you man, y'all can do whatever you like. I think what some have tried to communicate (perhaps imperfectly and sometimes with poorly veiled insults) is that under the current circumstances it's unlikely that AD or EP are capable of getting 1st if we're constantly in each other's face, and that a temporary and limited truce should be considered.
DC SHOULD take it as a compliment as they have been wiping the floor with us for several months. I've advocated for a similar thing back in the day when EP was an unbeatable juggernaut and DC was perpetually in third.
However, you do make a valid point that perhaps all three teams should continue to beat the crap out of each other as usual, which is great and the default position.
I'll make my completely independent decision that at least for now, I will leave the lands North and East of Cropsford alone to whatever extent I can.
The bridge circle jerk is the reason why ep and ad lose.
The Bleaks -> Chal corridor is why DC loses keeps to AD. I swear the potatoes will bake there all day while AD marches from Roe to Nickel and then takes Ash.
We'll lose Glad and Rayles to yellow, and there will STILL be huge red/blue crossed swords outside of a very red Chalman - all over the place. Meanwhile our scroll is walking to black boot.
I walk over there, and blues aren't even sieging. They're running around in circles in front of the Chal wall while getting slaughtered by enemy siege and bow fire. One EP walks out of the door, 11 DC chase and die to fire trebs.
I don't even sometimes...
If you look at the @names of those a lot change sides hourly. Is this friend farming or trying to balance the farm? Either way it is what it is just wish it was on a lower pop server not causing lag and que spots.Edited by antihero727 on December 2, 2016 9:39PMVeldrn-AD Magica Sorc
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✭✭Good job last night, Oceanic DC! And good job, Oceanic EP. Together we got the dethrone and some scrolls. It seems that some of the newer blue players didn't know that we couldn't carry the scroll that EP was hauling back. They should have left it to you. Look forward to another night of pushing yellow hard. As long as they have the lead, they are who I'll be focusing most.0 -
Pchela✭✭✭✭✭Good job last night, Oceanic DC! And good job, Oceanic EP. Together we got the dethrone and some scrolls. It seems that some of the newer blue players didn't know that we couldn't carry the scroll that EP was hauling back. They should have left it to you. Look forward to another night of pushing yellow hard. As long as they have the lead, they are who I'll be focusing most.
Was a fun dethrone indeed. Been playing with some EP in the oceanic times lately and I enjoy it very much. I think we had a nine person group.2 -
Magus✭✭✭✭✭Resorting to off-hour dethrones
Is AD the strongest faction in the game?
They can be, yes. Just usually the hard hitters are more casual and don't run nightly like other factions that typically have their hard hitters running nightly with right group comp/size to be effective.Duraeon / Maoh
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✭✭Good job last night, Oceanic DC! And good job, Oceanic EP. Together we got the dethrone and some scrolls.
1 + 1 = 1?
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maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Good job last night, Oceanic DC! And good job, Oceanic EP. Together we got the dethrone and some scrolls.
1 + 1 = 1?
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I honestly don't know what's up with you, Mano. You've played the game long enough to know what the two opposing factions should/will do when the third has both Emp and a point lead. A point lead that was partly run up by trying to cap everything during maintenance downtime.
Quit complaining.3 -
Manoekin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Good job last night, Oceanic DC! And good job, Oceanic EP. Together we got the dethrone and some scrolls.
1 + 1 = 1?
???
I honestly don't know what's up with you, Mano. You've played the game long enough to know what the two opposing factions should/will do when the third has both Emp and a point lead. A point lead that was partly run up by trying to cap everything during maintenance downtime.
Quit complaining.
Hmmmm. Nice job avoiding having to answer for your inconsistencies. All I know is they couldn't dethrone during pop locked primetime. Forgive me if I toss an oceanic dethrone in the same bucket as an oceanic emp push. What is this nonsense about trying to cap before maintenance? I played until just a couple hours before the maint, not knowing that it was even scheduled, and not a single person in AD gave a crap about it or even mentioned it. We capped the emp that night, during primetime. Hmmmmmmmm. It's almost as if AD is the strongest faction.0 -
maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Good job last night, Oceanic DC! And good job, Oceanic EP. Together we got the dethrone and some scrolls.
1 + 1 = 1?
???
I honestly don't know what's up with you, Mano. You've played the game long enough to know what the two opposing factions should/will do when the third has both Emp and a point lead. A point lead that was partly run up by trying to cap everything during maintenance downtime.
Quit complaining.
Hmmmm. Nice job avoiding having to answer for your inconsistencies. All I know is they couldn't dethrone during pop locked primetime. Forgive me if I toss an oceanic dethrone in the same bucket as an oceanic emp push. What is this nonsense about trying to cap before maintenance? I played until just a couple hours before the maint, not knowing that it was even scheduled, and not a single person in AD gave a crap about it or even mentioned it. We capped the emp that night, during primetime. Hmmmmmmmm. It's almost as if AD is the strongest faction.
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Pchela✭✭✭✭✭My last dethrone was around the same oceanic time by ad and DC and I don't really see the problem?4
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aidenmoore✭✭✭✭Resorting to off-hour dethrones
Is AD the strongest faction in the game?
Isn't that when Stalker managed to get an Emp? When most people when asleep? Prior to maintenance if I recall correctly.4 -
Magus✭✭✭✭✭Good job last night, Oceanic DC! And good job, Oceanic EP. Together we got the dethrone and some scrolls.
1 + 1 = 1?
???
I honestly don't know what's up with you, Mano. You've played the game long enough to know what the two opposing factions should/will do when the third has both Emp and a point lead. A point lead that was partly run up by trying to cap everything during maintenance downtime.
Quit complaining.
It's almost as if AD is the strongest faction.
My perspective is AD can be the strongest faction when it chooses to be and has the right groups all running and gelling. AD is the best at taking keeps and overall usage of siege but when those groups aren't around they are just kinda lost and get farmed at alessia bridge. EP is a giant blob of easy to farm EP with lethal guilds stacked within it most of the time. Catch the blob without the elites, they are easy pickings. DC have a large population of insane people trying to small man in a zerg server. DC don't know what siege is.Duraeon / Maoh
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ishilb14_ESO✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I have a suggestion. Go after the bigger threat to winning. Going after AD night after night instead of fighting DC is your problem. AD nightly goes after SEJ and Drake then shifts the focus to DC. EP night after bloody night pushes to the south. F*(^) even Custer new to go west. You want to win a campaign but you have a serious problem with fighting the Blue Ball.
Why AD often finds themselves getting doubled teamed
1. AD usually gets focused at night cause whenever the EP guilds log in around primetime AD usually has Sej BRK and or Drake. Leading to EP naturally pushing south
2. AD probably gets focused by DC cause when the DC guilds log in around primetime they are often missing Ash.
Whatever AD guilds are on in the afternoon painting both parts of the map yellow aggroing both factions is the reason why you are getting double teamed. If you want to solve the problem you might want to tell your afternoon guilds to take a chill pill as we usually prefer to focus DC for the night if we get the chance.
Everyone gets double teamed . It's just a part of AvAvA . We usually push both sides of the map pretty equally so we get retaliation from both sides . A lot Us understand this .
No one has a problem with defending both sides of the map. The only thing people have a problem with is defending one keep from the entire DC faction, and another keep from the entire EP faction. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks, in that situation something is going to give. All anyone ever asks is that when you see 40 other players of your own faction surrounding you, maybe go do something else.
So what you're complaining about, is having to do what EP has to do, against DC and AD, every day? I can't even lol to this.Original DC #Bloodthorn2014
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aidenmoore✭✭✭✭It's true. Super strong.
Oh, there are 40 more trying to burn the camp on the other side of the keep and I believe 53 more on their way. AD, super stronk!0 -
AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭May of this year was the last time EP won the Trueflame Campaign. May. Since May we have come close to victory several times. Especially over the summer months, but the last couple campaign cycles we have fallen out of our ability to compete with other factions in terms of campaign scoring. We are often 2-3000 points behind second place. What's changed?
We have lost ALL of our daytime and oceanic guilds. All of them. There are simply none. We used to have several. Wherever those guilds went, whether to other factions or out of the game it does not matter. They took their organizational abilities and their players with them. Leaving behind a often outnumbered and always disorganized faction in the non primetime hours.
Usually when guilds collapse or move on new guilds rise from the ashes. We have seen this in primetime for EP. Right now EP has a powerful arsenal of guilds at its disposal. While we used to struggle in Primetime a few months ago with the collapse of a few EP guilds we are now fully competitive and often excel beyond what the other factions can accomplish. While this great and all (and alot of fun for me as a primetime player) this has not effected the campaign score dramatically. We can't dominate for 3-4 hours and then be missing Chal, Drake and often BRK for the other 20.
What the EP of TF need is more a lot more players, organization and luck outside of primetime. Perhaps you can help with that. If you are an EP that plays in Haddy or Azura's outside of Primetime perhaps you can come help? If you are a AD/DC player getting bored of your faction and want to re-roll, EP right now is the underdog and could use you. If you are an EP player who has always wanted to create a group but never tried, EP needs you in the daytime. Hopefully some will answer and we can get a more balanced and competitive campaign for all of us.
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On one last note, we are working on creating stronger communication between the EP guilds out there, large and small. A place where we can share tactics, movement, info and get to know each other better as teammates. If you are a raid lead, a officer or a GM of a EP guild please contact @NACtron (Nikolai the Nord) or @Lurtz14 (-Crow) in game for more info
may? someone has very short memory, ep won the first 3 full campaigns after thieves guild launch in march. (april, may, june) and i forget who wone the next 2 i think it was ad if memory serves or ad then ep (july, aug) then dc has won last 3 campaigns (sept, oct, nov).v160 spellsword (nightblade)
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✭✭aidenmoore wrote: »
I don't have the exact time, but it was somewhere between 12 and 1am EST looking back at some video. As someone on the west coast, that's not late for me at all and I know there were groups still going.aidenmoore wrote: »It's true. Super strong.
Oh, there are 40 more trying to burn the camp on the other side of the keep and I believe 53 more on their way. AD, super stronk!
Wiping with 20 ppl? For shame.ishilb14_ESO wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »I have a suggestion. Go after the bigger threat to winning. Going after AD night after night instead of fighting DC is your problem. AD nightly goes after SEJ and Drake then shifts the focus to DC. EP night after bloody night pushes to the south. F*(^) even Custer new to go west. You want to win a campaign but you have a serious problem with fighting the Blue Ball.
Why AD often finds themselves getting doubled teamed
1. AD usually gets focused at night cause whenever the EP guilds log in around primetime AD usually has Sej BRK and or Drake. Leading to EP naturally pushing south
2. AD probably gets focused by DC cause when the DC guilds log in around primetime they are often missing Ash.
Whatever AD guilds are on in the afternoon painting both parts of the map yellow aggroing both factions is the reason why you are getting double teamed. If you want to solve the problem you might want to tell your afternoon guilds to take a chill pill as we usually prefer to focus DC for the night if we get the chance.
Everyone gets double teamed . It's just a part of AvAvA . We usually push both sides of the map pretty equally so we get retaliation from both sides . A lot Us understand this .
No one has a problem with defending both sides of the map. The only thing people have a problem with is defending one keep from the entire DC faction, and another keep from the entire EP faction. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks, in that situation something is going to give. All anyone ever asks is that when you see 40 other players of your own faction surrounding you, maybe go do something else.
So what you're complaining about, is having to do what EP has to do, against DC and AD, every day? I can't even lol to this.
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heystreethawk✭✭✭✭✭I play during NA primetime, which starts right now, or possibly earlier; I would like for things to be even across the board at all other times, but I do not have nightmares about it. During NA primetime, everyone is poplocked on TF, which is terrific, and pretty much all you could hope for. The maximum amount of population, for everyone. I guess you could compare queue sizes at that point, and you could say: ha ha! That one arbitrary color has a larger queue, and henceforth they are the Zerg Nation. But, in reality, they all have the same amount of people in the same campaign at the same time. That, of course, is just primetime, and it is different at other times.
I had the opportunity to play for a bit this morning (I needed "The Vigs" for an alt, and I'm not going to PvP on a level 15 character during primetime), and this is what it looked like:
Time is EST. I don't think this is unfair; this is just the situation, at this particular time. AD seems to be disadvantaged in the mornings, and if I usually logged on immediately after "the morning" ended, maybe I would be pissed off at DC all the time? I mean, we were pushed to our gates! They had all of our stuff! But then I'd play for a little while, and I'd see my alliance take our stuff back, and unless in this alternate just-past-the-morning reality I was also too dumb to figure out how to turn on a computer in the first place, I would probably figure out that whatever pop-locked force of nature took the entire map away from my alliance is no longer playing the game at this current moment in time, and is probably asleep.
The only moral of this story is that if you hold a grudge against another faction for what happened in the hours right before you typed your password into the login screen, you probably have someone else turn on your computer every day.
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pcar944✭✭✭✭Resorting to off-hour dethrones
Is AD the strongest faction in the game?
this is actually really funny, because I keep telling DC that they need to grab and hold what they can for as long as they can before primetime AD logs on
because frankly it doesn't seem that EP or DC can even hold a candle to the force that is AD at the moment, not during primetime hours anyways
you guys held of EP and DC at your gates and nobody got the scroll during primetime multiple times, I've seen it
and yet when anything to DC zone is suggested that does not include "Chalamo, Bleaker, Alessia Bridge" people tell me to log back on to AD/EP ... so I am not going to disappoint them anymore
Edited by pcar944 on December 3, 2016 3:11AMOne Tamriel killed PVP
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✭✭aidenmoore wrote: »
I think I got emp around 12.30am EST as primetime was coming to a close (still a lot west coast online), was still showing lock pop for the factoins but no queue. Pulled off a perfect assjam to take chalman and not many DC were defending aleswell afterwards for some reason. Had no idea about the upcoming maintenance at the time - wasn't till an hour or so after that we found out that there was going to be a maintenance. Maintenance happened 3 and a half hours after we crowned emp, it lasted for 6 hours during which we were earning about 6 more points than DC per score evaluation.
As for the dethrone, only had a group of 4 people at the time and not many AD were at the emp keep. Most AD chose to defend scrolls. A group of EP died up top - but it's TKG that really stumped us I think. TKG are so tanky with so much healing that they can just stand on flags and heal through emperor dps lol. DC have a very strong oceanic/morning presence atm. During prime time we had a strong 14 man group + AD support so we were able to defend.Edited by IxSTALKERxI on December 3, 2016 4:20AMNA | PC | Aldmeri DominionLaser Eyes AR 26 Arcanist | Stalker V AR 41 Warden | I Stalker I AR 42 NB | Stalkersaurus AR 31 Templar | Stalker Ill AR 31 Sorc | Nigel the Great of BlackwaterFormer Emperor x11 campaign cyclesVenatus Officer | RIP RÁGE | YouTube Channel0 -
ScooberSteve✭✭✭✭Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.2
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✭ScooberSteve wrote: »Can we AD and EP put our differences aside forget whos on top of scoreboard and make sure these zergging DC dont win another campaign again? All they did last night (offpeak) was push AD to gates while there were plenty of EP to fight.
In process, truly hope this campaign doesn´t end with DC on top. Gets boring if they win again.A is for Atronach.
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