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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

EP Calls for Aid (PC/NA TF)

  • Minno
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    I won't speak for the other EP, but I rarely play the AvA scoring system because it is not fun.

    Let's say I want to push EP's score so, yeah, spread out and take Bloodmayne's LM right before the eval. Fine. I've done that. How boring. Riding there and capping the resource by yourself is not a trivial investment of your time. You are going to want to get there early just in case you don't miss the eval and it takes a while for a single person to flip that flag. Then pretty much the only choice to get back is to suicide (which I despise) and take takes forever because ZoS refuses to make the NPCs remotely threatening. No thanks. I have to get up at 6AM for work. If that's your idea of fun, have at it. I'll stay at the Bridge, dumping oil on AD heads. It's much more fun. Sorry if I'm not contributing to EP's alliance score.

    If I am one single person, which I typically am when I play my EP, there just isn't much I can do. OK, Chalman and its resources are Blue. Should I go to the north wall and set up a trebuchet? Take the farm and wait for 20 DC in the keep looking at their map to zerg me down? The only way I pretty much am going to have any impact on that score is if I wait for the "zerg" to show up at Chalman and take part in the offensive. More waiting. No thanks. Go to Sej and ride to the bridge. At least there are people to fight. Even better if I can dump oil on their heads. One time I got a 50 KB streak just by dumping oil on people's heads on the Bridge, so high the author of the kill counter stopped adding those phrases like "mass murderer" and "blood drinker." It must be a lot of fun since people keep taking my oils :rage:

    Whoever designed and built the actual geography/landscape of Cyordiil should sue ZoS for damages or something. Seriously, it's such a beautiful map with such intricate details even way way far off in the corners of the map nobody has any reasons to go. And 90% of it is not used because there is zero reason or incentive to go there. I just laugh when people claim that getting rid of AoE caps or some other combat change will help stop the zerging/faction stacking. No it won't. You can make all the combat changes in the game that you want, I am still not riding to Bloodmayne LM to flip it before the score timer just to get my alliance a net of 3 points. Sorry Warlord Zimmeron for not being the good EP soldier. Instead I will go to the siege merchant and buy oils so I don't run out of them on the bridge.

    I get this animosity towards how the score is constructed. It only promotes PvD at the last possible second.

    But until more objectives, a better leaderboard, and structured pvp come along, it's what we have. It would be in each factions interest to determine their moves based on there scoreboard. Here's why:

    - based on "I'm only here for killing" mentality, currently there's no incentive to go anywhere on the map except for ring keeps/scroll keep defense.
    - based on "faction score" mentality, a crew can have incentive to rush around main lines and hit less zerged objectives. If it's an important objective, the enemy will come and you'll pull the zerg in two directions.
    - you literally can only be granted points in the last 10 minute window if you want to limit the enemy's counter flip. The other 50 minutes you are actually "pvping", so taking a break for 10 minutes to flip a resource isn't too tasking. Besides you get the continuous attack buff, so that's enough incentive.
    - under the killing mentality, players only gravitate tiara keeps, don't seige since they rather kill players in zerg/zerg skirmishes, and end up giving up if a more organized group pushes.
    - under score mentality, players would still zerg/zerg fight, but at the 10 minute window players are spreading out to hit the enemies resources at the next objective. This also pulls enemies to those places, helping to reduce the lag and create more partitioned fights. Groups can still zerg the resources, but only additional objectives and lower raid sizes will help that.
    - score mentality means, a faction can actually claim they are the best. Since I'm a faction score player, I can say that numerically DC is better than EP and AD because we have groups that respect the faction score and use that to help plan their moves.

    It's not the best system, but it's what we have. Might as well make the pvp interesting and instruct score playing a part of the pvp experience.
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • God_flakes
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    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
  • Minno
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....

    The scores are close. And DC gets pummeled between 9pm-12am. I can't remember why those AD left, but wasnt this back when AD was beating each faction to there point a score catch up wasn't even tangible?

    Right now the factions are within 100-300 points away from each other, and only reason I can see DC splitting up is if we are 2000+ points ahead of second place and gate camping every night.

    Just last night we had -EP and AD push us successfully. I'd say they have the numbers to succeed.
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • God_flakes
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    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....

    The scores are close. And DC gets pummeled between 9pm-12am. I can't remember why those AD left, but wasnt this back when AD was beating each faction to there point a score catch up wasn't even tangible?

    Right now the factions are within 100-300 points away from each other, and only reason I can see DC splitting up is if we are 2000+ points ahead of second place and gate camping every night.

    Just last night we had -EP and AD push us successfully. I'd say they have the numbers to succeed.

    I log on around 6pm est and since the start of the new campaign, DC never has Ales or Ash. We fight all night to get them back and keep them against dual assaults by AD/EP. I'd say there is no reason for any Covenant team to leave this campaign at this point.
  • NACtron
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    AD seems to find so very shocking that in a three way alliance war that they would get pushed even though they aren't in first place at the moment. It happens.

    If you payed attention last night though you would notice that not only was EP pushing Alessia but it also took bleaks Aleswell Dragon and Warden. Ep was using in a substantial amount of it's manpower to hold Aleswell and Dragon throughout the night. Just cause your keeps were getting hit too does not mean you were being picked on and focused.
    Edited by NACtron on December 1, 2016 6:06PM
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  • Manoekin
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....

    The scores are close. And DC gets pummeled between 9pm-12am. I can't remember why those AD left, but wasnt this back when AD was beating each faction to there point a score catch up wasn't even tangible?

    Right now the factions are within 100-300 points away from each other, and only reason I can see DC splitting up is if we are 2000+ points ahead of second place and gate camping every night.

    Just last night we had -EP and AD push us successfully. I'd say they have the numbers to succeed.

    I log on around 6pm est and since the start of the new campaign, DC never has Ales or Ash. We fight all night to get them back and keep them against dual assaults by AD/EP. I'd say there is no reason for any Covenant team to leave this campaign at this point.

    :lol: Delusional.
  • Celas_Dranacea
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....

    The first was in part a mercy win - the other two were totally legitimate as DC kicked our butts.
    A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf
  • Telel
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....

    The first was in part a mercy win - the other two were totally legitimate as DC kicked our butts.

    ^ This

    After winning three months in a row most of the organized AD guilds went on hiatus and or spread out across the other servers. In most cases at the request of various bloops, including a couple of very well known streamers.
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  • God_flakes
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    Manoekin wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....

    The scores are close. And DC gets pummeled between 9pm-12am. I can't remember why those AD left, but wasnt this back when AD was beating each faction to there point a score catch up wasn't even tangible?

    Right now the factions are within 100-300 points away from each other, and only reason I can see DC splitting up is if we are 2000+ points ahead of second place and gate camping every night.

    Just last night we had -EP and AD push us successfully. I'd say they have the numbers to succeed.

    I log on around 6pm est and since the start of the new campaign, DC never has Ales or Ash. We fight all night to get them back and keep them against dual assaults by AD/EP. I'd say there is no reason for any Covenant team to leave this campaign at this point.

    :lol: Delusional.

    What specifically am I "delusional" about? That DC doesn't have Ash and Ales when I log anymore? Wanna come sit next to me when I log? Or that we get aggro'd all night at those two keeps relentlessly? Or that there is no reason for even one DC player to leave the campaign?
  • Minno
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    Telel wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....

    The first was in part a mercy win - the other two were totally legitimate as DC kicked our butts.

    ^ This

    After winning three months in a row most of the organized AD guilds went on hiatus and or spread out across the other servers. In most cases at the request of various bloops, including a couple of very well known streamers.
    Faction mentalities:
    AD:
    youdidntbeatme.gif

    DC:
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    EP:
    anigif_enhanced-2214-1391044333-23.gif

    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • Armitas
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    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate while still not owning their home keeps.
    Edited by Armitas on December 1, 2016 11:40PM
    Retired.
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  • Minalan
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    boundsy88 wrote: »
    maybe EP should call the emp night cap group from haderus over to help out. all they do is literally sit in a dead campaign 24/7 and zerg down anything that lights up whether it be a resource or a keep or whatever.

    Pretty much this. I can't imagine how they call this "fun". There is always something to do on TF.

    I guess if they were good enough players to compete they would already be there.
  • God_flakes
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    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    Stern warning for EP: helping AD will result only in you still being in third place. Once they get what they want they will stomp all over your backs and dance on your graves.
  • Hetaira
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    Stern warning for EP: helping AD will result only in you still being in third place. Once they get what they want they will stomp all over your backs and dance on your graves.

    Naw, many on AD would love to see EP come in second this campaign.
  • maxjapank
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    Hetaira wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    Stern warning for EP: helping AD will result only in you still being in third place. Once they get what they want they will stomp all over your backs and dance on your graves.

    Naw, many on AD would love to see EP come in second this campaign.

    Lol. Once again. Help us AD come in first. And we'll help you EP come in second. The mentality!

    Well, I encourage EP to fight for first, even if that means that we DC lose. Play smart and hit both yellows and blues hard.
  • Celas_Dranacea
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Hetaira wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    Stern warning for EP: helping AD will result only in you still being in third place. Once they get what they want they will stomp all over your backs and dance on your graves.

    Naw, many on AD would love to see EP come in second this campaign.

    Lol. Once again. Help us AD come in first. And we'll help you EP come in second. The mentality!

    Well, I encourage EP to fight for first, even if that means that we DC lose. Play smart and hit both yellows and blues hard.

    Nah - EP hit blues and we will too - if it comes down to it a lot of people on AD will be happy if you take the win. We are like Goldilocks - at least for me 2nd place is just right.

    Maybe in a few months I'll feel like we have something to prove, but it was exactly the point of the AD guild trueflame hiatus 3 months ago to break our momentum and keep things interesting. We're fine for now, I don't believe any of us are threatened by loss of e-peen or anything like that.

    Btw I have no ill feelings towards DC and only goodwill and respect - trying our best to dethrone you guys is just the logical thing to do in the game right now. You guys are great players and I'm sure will fight back really well!
    A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf
  • Minno
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Hetaira wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    Stern warning for EP: helping AD will result only in you still being in third place. Once they get what they want they will stomp all over your backs and dance on your graves.

    Naw, many on AD would love to see EP come in second this campaign.

    Lol. Once again. Help us AD come in first. And we'll help you EP come in second. The mentality!

    Well, I encourage EP to fight for first, even if that means that we DC lose. Play smart and hit both yellows and blues hard.

    Nah - EP hit blues and we will too - if it comes down to it a lot of people on AD will be happy if you take the win. We are like Goldilocks - at least for me 2nd place is just right.

    Maybe in a few months I'll feel like we have something to prove, but it was exactly the point of the AD guild trueflame hiatus 3 months ago to break our momentum and keep things interesting. We're fine for now, I don't believe any of us are threatened by loss of e-peen or anything like that.

    Btw I have no ill feelings towards DC and only goodwill and respect - trying our best to dethrone you guys is just the logical thing to do in the game right now. You guys are great players and I'm sure will fight back really well!

    Respect given, respect earned. See you on the battle field!
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
    - Guild-lead for MV
    - Filthy Casual
  • Minalan
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    The issue with AD is that they have the numbers, pretty much 24/7 cap locked. Letting up on them means AD emps and caps the map.

    Letting up on D.C. Means losing Chal for a few hours before you just take it back. It also means helping blue the lead against yellow.

    Tough choice, but I can see why EP chooses option two.
  • Celas_Dranacea
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    Minno wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Hetaira wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    Stern warning for EP: helping AD will result only in you still being in third place. Once they get what they want they will stomp all over your backs and dance on your graves.

    Naw, many on AD would love to see EP come in second this campaign.

    Lol. Once again. Help us AD come in first. And we'll help you EP come in second. The mentality!

    Well, I encourage EP to fight for first, even if that means that we DC lose. Play smart and hit both yellows and blues hard.

    Nah - EP hit blues and we will too - if it comes down to it a lot of people on AD will be happy if you take the win. We are like Goldilocks - at least for me 2nd place is just right.

    Maybe in a few months I'll feel like we have something to prove, but it was exactly the point of the AD guild trueflame hiatus 3 months ago to break our momentum and keep things interesting. We're fine for now, I don't believe any of us are threatened by loss of e-peen or anything like that.

    Btw I have no ill feelings towards DC and only goodwill and respect - trying our best to dethrone you guys is just the logical thing to do in the game right now. You guys are great players and I'm sure will fight back really well!

    Respect given, respect earned. See you on the battle field!

    Cheers Minno! See you out there!
    A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf
  • aidenmoore
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    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    It's super easy to read. If EP have Sejanus, bridge farm all day everyday. If they have Chalman, Chal gate all day everyday. If they have both, bridge all day everyday.
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  • NACtron
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    Stern warning for EP: helping AD will result only in you still being in third place. Once they get what they want they will stomp all over your backs and dance on your graves.

    I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.
    Pact Militia GM
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  • NACtron
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    Minno wrote: »
    Telel wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....

    The first was in part a mercy win - the other two were totally legitimate as DC kicked our butts.

    ^ This

    After winning three months in a row most of the organized AD guilds went on hiatus and or spread out across the other servers. In most cases at the request of various bloops, including a couple of very well known streamers.
    Faction mentalities:
    AD:
    youdidntbeatme.gif

    DC:
    BwkOzgO.gif

    EP:
    anigif_enhanced-2214-1391044333-23.gif

    Where did you get the footage of us attacking Alessia FD?
    Pact Militia GM
    Nikolai the Nord - Stamplar

  • Telel
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    Minno wrote: »
    Telel wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.

    But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless. :)

    Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....

    The first was in part a mercy win - the other two were totally legitimate as DC kicked our butts.

    ^ This

    After winning three months in a row most of the organized AD guilds went on hiatus and or spread out across the other servers. In most cases at the request of various bloops, including a couple of very well known streamers.
    Faction mentalities:
    AD:
    youdidntbeatme.gif

    DC:
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    EP:
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    Now now. Not all the griffs are mindless insects who exist purely to make people forget about how the story is being butchered for the sake of easy access.
    Character: Telel
    Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
    Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
    Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.

    Khajiit has a twitch stream! https://twitch.tv/telel_khajiit feel free to come see how truly unskilled Telel is.
  • Celas_Dranacea
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    NACtron wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    Stern warning for EP: helping AD will result only in you still being in third place. Once they get what they want they will stomp all over your backs and dance on your graves.

    I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.

    @NACtron respect to you man, y'all can do whatever you like. I think what some have tried to communicate (perhaps imperfectly and sometimes with poorly veiled insults) is that under the current circumstances it's unlikely that AD or EP are capable of getting 1st if we're constantly in each other's face, and that a temporary and limited truce should be considered.

    DC SHOULD take it as a compliment as they have been wiping the floor with us for several months. I've advocated for a similar thing back in the day when EP was an unbeatable juggernaut and DC was perpetually in third.

    However, you do make a valid point that perhaps all three teams should continue to beat the crap out of each other as usual, which is great and the default position.

    I'll make my completely independent decision that at least for now, I will leave the lands North and East of Cropsford alone to whatever extent I can.
    A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf
  • ScooberSteve
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    people have already started to change alliances because its no fun zerging small groups down. Hopefully things will balance out soon
  • doublestuffed
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    NACtron wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    Stern warning for EP: helping AD will result only in you still being in third place. Once they get what they want they will stomp all over your backs and dance on your graves.

    I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.

    @NACtron respect to you man, y'all can do whatever you like. I think what some have tried to communicate (perhaps imperfectly and sometimes with poorly veiled insults) is that under the current circumstances it's unlikely that AD or EP are capable of getting 1st if we're constantly in each other's face, and that a temporary and limited truce should be considered.

    DC SHOULD take it as a compliment as they have been wiping the floor with us for several months. I've advocated for a similar thing back in the day when EP was an unbeatable juggernaut and DC was perpetually in third.

    However, you do make a valid point that perhaps all three teams should continue to beat the crap out of each other as usual, which is great and the default position.

    I'll make my completely independent decision that at least for now, I will leave the lands North and East of Cropsford alone to whatever extent I can.

    The bridge circle jerk is the reason why ep and ad lose.
    Cranking The Hog - Mag NB AD NA PC
    Baby Sauce - Temp AD NA PC
    Hysterical Paroxysm - Stam Sorc AD NA PC
    Krotch -Krickets - Stam DK EP NA PC
    Red Fingerpaint - Magsorc EP NA PC
    Warm Regards - Stamplar EP NA PC
  • antihero727
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    What you tell yourself to sleep
    people have already started to change alliances because its no fun zerging small groups down. Hopefully things will balance out soon

    What small man groups? Haxus Zerg surfing PM is not a small man. All of the DC small man Zerg surfing Shadowgraber? Random AD small mans Zerg surfing DK, DD, or ?. All small man has to surf to survive. How can you small man a 24/7 poplocked campaign? Reroll servers if you looking for that kind of fight.
    Veldrn-AD Magica Sorc
    Bizarro Veldrn-AD Stam Sorc
    Antiherro-AD Stam DK
    Antihero-AD Magplar
    Aww Crit-AD Magblade
    AD Since PC beta
    On A lag free vacation
    for the near and far future
  • Telel
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    NACtron wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.

    Stern warning for EP: helping AD will result only in you still being in third place. Once they get what they want they will stomp all over your backs and dance on your graves.

    I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.

    @NACtron respect to you man, y'all can do whatever you like. I think what some have tried to communicate (perhaps imperfectly and sometimes with poorly veiled insults) is that under the current circumstances it's unlikely that AD or EP are capable of getting 1st if we're constantly in each other's face, and that a temporary and limited truce should be considered.

    DC SHOULD take it as a compliment as they have been wiping the floor with us for several months. I've advocated for a similar thing back in the day when EP was an unbeatable juggernaut and DC was perpetually in third.

    However, you do make a valid point that perhaps all three teams should continue to beat the crap out of each other as usual, which is great and the default position.

    I'll make my completely independent decision that at least for now, I will leave the lands North and East of Cropsford alone to whatever extent I can.

    The bridge circle jerk is the reason why ep and ad lose.

    That and the utter scarcity of group leaders to provide round the clock direction and strategic mobility.

    It seems as if there is maybe 1 other group running whenever humble Telel has time to get their pack running, and that one or both of them often gets stuck chasing down resource campers, and PVDOor herds since all the AP mules refuse to go to far from their bridge based spawn points.
    Character: Telel
    Class: Night Blade-Werewolf-viking-ninja-catgirl-mallet wielder
    Past times: Refusing to go full magika spec, hitting things with a big hammer, sniping, and speaking in khajiit
    Also: Gelel the Derp Knight, Altsel the streaker, and Filafel the temp temp.

    Khajiit has a twitch stream! https://twitch.tv/telel_khajiit feel free to come see how truly unskilled Telel is.
  • ataggs
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    Whenever I start to feel bad for EP, I log into Had or watch a Haxus farming Brindle video. Sort of like feeling sorry for the inmate serving a life sentence and then you realize what crime was committed.
      Confirmed Casual
    • Templar DC- Zee Taggs
    • Templar EP- Zoola
    • Templar AD- Old Zoola
  • Joy_Division
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    Armitas wrote: »
    I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate while still not owning their home keeps.

    Meh, the oil potential is not nearly as good at the mile gates.
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