Joy_Division wrote: »I won't speak for the other EP, but I rarely play the AvA scoring system because it is not fun.
Let's say I want to push EP's score so, yeah, spread out and take Bloodmayne's LM right before the eval. Fine. I've done that. How boring. Riding there and capping the resource by yourself is not a trivial investment of your time. You are going to want to get there early just in case you don't miss the eval and it takes a while for a single person to flip that flag. Then pretty much the only choice to get back is to suicide (which I despise) and take takes forever because ZoS refuses to make the NPCs remotely threatening. No thanks. I have to get up at 6AM for work. If that's your idea of fun, have at it. I'll stay at the Bridge, dumping oil on AD heads. It's much more fun. Sorry if I'm not contributing to EP's alliance score.
If I am one single person, which I typically am when I play my EP, there just isn't much I can do. OK, Chalman and its resources are Blue. Should I go to the north wall and set up a trebuchet? Take the farm and wait for 20 DC in the keep looking at their map to zerg me down? The only way I pretty much am going to have any impact on that score is if I wait for the "zerg" to show up at Chalman and take part in the offensive. More waiting. No thanks. Go to Sej and ride to the bridge. At least there are people to fight. Even better if I can dump oil on their heads. One time I got a 50 KB streak just by dumping oil on people's heads on the Bridge, so high the author of the kill counter stopped adding those phrases like "mass murderer" and "blood drinker." It must be a lot of fun since people keep taking my oils
Whoever designed and built the actual geography/landscape of Cyordiil should sue ZoS for damages or something. Seriously, it's such a beautiful map with such intricate details even way way far off in the corners of the map nobody has any reasons to go. And 90% of it is not used because there is zero reason or incentive to go there. I just laugh when people claim that getting rid of AoE caps or some other combat change will help stop the zerging/faction stacking. No it won't. You can make all the combat changes in the game that you want, I am still not riding to Bloodmayne LM to flip it before the score timer just to get my alliance a net of 3 points. Sorry Warlord Zimmeron for not being the good EP soldier. Instead I will go to the siege merchant and buy oils so I don't run out of them on the bridge.
Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
The scores are close. And DC gets pummeled between 9pm-12am. I can't remember why those AD left, but wasnt this back when AD was beating each faction to there point a score catch up wasn't even tangible?
Right now the factions are within 100-300 points away from each other, and only reason I can see DC splitting up is if we are 2000+ points ahead of second place and gate camping every night.
Just last night we had -EP and AD push us successfully. I'd say they have the numbers to succeed.
God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
The scores are close. And DC gets pummeled between 9pm-12am. I can't remember why those AD left, but wasnt this back when AD was beating each faction to there point a score catch up wasn't even tangible?
Right now the factions are within 100-300 points away from each other, and only reason I can see DC splitting up is if we are 2000+ points ahead of second place and gate camping every night.
Just last night we had -EP and AD push us successfully. I'd say they have the numbers to succeed.
I log on around 6pm est and since the start of the new campaign, DC never has Ales or Ash. We fight all night to get them back and keep them against dual assaults by AD/EP. I'd say there is no reason for any Covenant team to leave this campaign at this point.
God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
The first was in part a mercy win - the other two were totally legitimate as DC kicked our butts.
God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
The scores are close. And DC gets pummeled between 9pm-12am. I can't remember why those AD left, but wasnt this back when AD was beating each faction to there point a score catch up wasn't even tangible?
Right now the factions are within 100-300 points away from each other, and only reason I can see DC splitting up is if we are 2000+ points ahead of second place and gate camping every night.
Just last night we had -EP and AD push us successfully. I'd say they have the numbers to succeed.
I log on around 6pm est and since the start of the new campaign, DC never has Ales or Ash. We fight all night to get them back and keep them against dual assaults by AD/EP. I'd say there is no reason for any Covenant team to leave this campaign at this point.
Delusional.
Faction mentalities:Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
The first was in part a mercy win - the other two were totally legitimate as DC kicked our butts.
^ This
After winning three months in a row most of the organized AD guilds went on hiatus and or spread out across the other servers. In most cases at the request of various bloops, including a couple of very well known streamers.
maybe EP should call the emp night cap group from haderus over to help out. all they do is literally sit in a dead campaign 24/7 and zerg down anything that lights up whether it be a resource or a keep or whatever.
God_flakes wrote: »
God_flakes wrote: »
Naw, many on AD would love to see EP come in second this campaign.
God_flakes wrote: »
Naw, many on AD would love to see EP come in second this campaign.
Lol. Once again. Help us AD come in first. And we'll help you EP come in second. The mentality!
Well, I encourage EP to fight for first, even if that means that we DC lose. Play smart and hit both yellows and blues hard.
Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »
Naw, many on AD would love to see EP come in second this campaign.
Lol. Once again. Help us AD come in first. And we'll help you EP come in second. The mentality!
Well, I encourage EP to fight for first, even if that means that we DC lose. Play smart and hit both yellows and blues hard.
Nah - EP hit blues and we will too - if it comes down to it a lot of people on AD will be happy if you take the win. We are like Goldilocks - at least for me 2nd place is just right.
Maybe in a few months I'll feel like we have something to prove, but it was exactly the point of the AD guild trueflame hiatus 3 months ago to break our momentum and keep things interesting. We're fine for now, I don't believe any of us are threatened by loss of e-peen or anything like that.
Btw I have no ill feelings towards DC and only goodwill and respect - trying our best to dethrone you guys is just the logical thing to do in the game right now. You guys are great players and I'm sure will fight back really well!
Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »
Naw, many on AD would love to see EP come in second this campaign.
Lol. Once again. Help us AD come in first. And we'll help you EP come in second. The mentality!
Well, I encourage EP to fight for first, even if that means that we DC lose. Play smart and hit both yellows and blues hard.
Nah - EP hit blues and we will too - if it comes down to it a lot of people on AD will be happy if you take the win. We are like Goldilocks - at least for me 2nd place is just right.
Maybe in a few months I'll feel like we have something to prove, but it was exactly the point of the AD guild trueflame hiatus 3 months ago to break our momentum and keep things interesting. We're fine for now, I don't believe any of us are threatened by loss of e-peen or anything like that.
Btw I have no ill feelings towards DC and only goodwill and respect - trying our best to dethrone you guys is just the logical thing to do in the game right now. You guys are great players and I'm sure will fight back really well!
Respect given, respect earned. See you on the battle field!
I am proud to report that EP has now completely switched from allesia bridge to chalman mile gate.
God_flakes wrote: »
Faction mentalities:Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
The first was in part a mercy win - the other two were totally legitimate as DC kicked our butts.
^ This
After winning three months in a row most of the organized AD guilds went on hiatus and or spread out across the other servers. In most cases at the request of various bloops, including a couple of very well known streamers.
AD:
DC:
EP:
Faction mentalities:Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »I dunno, seems logical for the other two factions to try and push the faction that has won 3 times in a row. Another logical thing would be if 1-2 of DC teams moved to another server for a couple of weeks to give other factions a sporting head start, like AD did when we won 3 in a row.
But hey if y'all don't wanna do that I'm not gonna complain... Everyone's entitled to do whatever they like. I'm having fun regardless.
Is that *really* what happened, though? Did a bunch of Ad teams decide to leave TF to allow DC not one, not two but three "mercy" wins? Come on nah....
The first was in part a mercy win - the other two were totally legitimate as DC kicked our butts.
^ This
After winning three months in a row most of the organized AD guilds went on hiatus and or spread out across the other servers. In most cases at the request of various bloops, including a couple of very well known streamers.
AD:
DC:
EP:
God_flakes wrote: »
I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.
Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »
I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.
@NACtron respect to you man, y'all can do whatever you like. I think what some have tried to communicate (perhaps imperfectly and sometimes with poorly veiled insults) is that under the current circumstances it's unlikely that AD or EP are capable of getting 1st if we're constantly in each other's face, and that a temporary and limited truce should be considered.
DC SHOULD take it as a compliment as they have been wiping the floor with us for several months. I've advocated for a similar thing back in the day when EP was an unbeatable juggernaut and DC was perpetually in third.
However, you do make a valid point that perhaps all three teams should continue to beat the crap out of each other as usual, which is great and the default position.
I'll make my completely independent decision that at least for now, I will leave the lands North and East of Cropsford alone to whatever extent I can.
ScooberSteve wrote: »people have already started to change alliances because its no fun zerging small groups down. Hopefully things will balance out soon
doublestuffed wrote: »Celas_Dranacea wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »
I'm really confused why a few AD are asking for help xD I suppose DC should be flattered AD thinks they need the help to take them.
@NACtron respect to you man, y'all can do whatever you like. I think what some have tried to communicate (perhaps imperfectly and sometimes with poorly veiled insults) is that under the current circumstances it's unlikely that AD or EP are capable of getting 1st if we're constantly in each other's face, and that a temporary and limited truce should be considered.
DC SHOULD take it as a compliment as they have been wiping the floor with us for several months. I've advocated for a similar thing back in the day when EP was an unbeatable juggernaut and DC was perpetually in third.
However, you do make a valid point that perhaps all three teams should continue to beat the crap out of each other as usual, which is great and the default position.
I'll make my completely independent decision that at least for now, I will leave the lands North and East of Cropsford alone to whatever extent I can.
The bridge circle jerk is the reason why ep and ad lose.