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geonsocal

so gooch (2.4 mil AP in around 2 days - crazy) is still farming me, only now as AD

when i was in IC I noticed the platforms no longer granted the passive which gives you extra distance around keeps and stuff...also - can no longer "port" out to fellow guild and friends...only "other" way out of IC now is to travel to a guest csmpaign...

switching to tri food from tri regen is definitely taking some work on my magdk...quite the challenge keeping my magicka up...

can't remember who did it - but, saw the highest damage from eye of whatever for awhile - 38k...man, I must have been dosing off to have stood in red that long...

Maff

geonsocal wrote: »

so gooch (2.4 mil AP in around 2 days - crazy) is still farming me, only now as AD

when i was in IC I noticed the platforms no longer granted the passive which gives you extra distance around keeps and stuff...also - can no longer "port" out to fellow guild and friends...only "other" way out of IC now is to travel to a guest csmpaign...

switching to tri food from tri regen is definitely taking some work on my magdk...quite the challenge keeping my magicka up...

can't remember who did it - but, saw the highest damage from eye of whatever for awhile - 38k...man, I must have been dosing off to have stood in red that long...

have you tried the Witch Mothers Brew? Max health, max magic and magic regen. I like that on a couple of my magicka builds. Not great if you need the extra stamina though.

I finally got my destro ult morphed and had a lot of fun being splatted and bagged numerous times after trying to zerg bomb. Still need a lot of practice getting everything timed right though. I'm never going to be Gooch good at it but I have found a well timed bomb can really turn the tide in a big fight.

I like the start of a new campaign. Everyone seems so enthusiastic. Great to see EP are making a strong comeback. They even managed to get emp once or twice. Hopefully this campaign will be a little closer in the scoring, tho if those reds keep up the work us blues might just finish last. But I'm cool with that as long as the fights are good and we are not gated for most of the campaign.

TequilaFire

edit - Nvm

Takes-No-Prisoner

Made 450k AP on my MagDK this weekend. I think I finally understand how it works! She's a blast to play. Was with one other bomber AD yesterday at Ash farm, and we 2v8 a bunch of blues. Had a couple 2v1's and had 1v1 with Biblo Swaggins til the guard NPC got in the way.

Good stuff, good fights. Very happy with how my rotation/build is for my DK.

reiverx

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

Made 450k AP on my MagDK this weekend. I think I finally understand how it works! She's a blast to play. Was with one other bomber AD yesterday at Ash farm, and we 2v8 a bunch of blues. Had a couple 2v1's and had 1v1 with Biblo Swaggins til the guard NPC got in the way.

Good stuff, good fights. Very happy with how my rotation/build is for my DK.

I love my mDK but I'm a bit worried about resource management after the next patch. It's already difficult enough.

Takes-No-Prisoner

I'm wearing (heavy)Seducer x5, BSW x5(S+B/Jewelry/Resto Stave), (light)Slimecraw x2

BSW neck/rings 1 magic reduce cost, 2 mag regain - Atro mundus(one divine piece on Slimecraw shoulder) - Dark Elf

She's at 34.9k Magic w/ 2,000 regain w/ Contious Attack, 1,771 without using Tri-food. If regain gets reduced, I can only see her losing about 100 regain. I think it'll still be in a OK spot. Speically since I have Seducers 8% cost reduction. I tried Black Rose, but I kept running out of magic a little more so then I believed I should. So I switched to Seducer and noticed a big difference with the 8%. Lost 120 Spell damage, but the sustain is so much better when I cast spells.

Should note I stripped out all of the reduce cost CP and put 100 into regain magic, and 94 into reduce cost blocking. This way I can block, and get magic back via Heavy Armor and pelt people with Fossilized / Igneous Shield to get Stamina back.

The only thing to keep in mind is when this build enters into combat, and get hit, her spell damage goes up and she gets resources back for getting hit. So that, plus Ferocious Leap/Magma Shell play a big part in getting resources back.

reiverx

I farmed BSW for months and never got that sharpened sword/stave so I gave up on it. I've got pretty much every other piece in every trait though.

Takes-No-Prisoner

I know that feel.... I spent 30-80 hours in VCOA to loot chests to get what I needed. If you're going S+B, the 1h sharpend weapon doesn't need to be anything but. So I'm running a Reinforced Shield + Sharpened Axe. If you're DW, then yea, 2 Swords. But that's a nightmare grind right there.

I also got super lucky and got 2 Powered Resto Staves from chests.

TequilaFire

Just got all the ocean fish in front of Ad gates.
Watching all the yellow ride by. lol

reiverx

I ended up going with Spinners. I tried Silks of the Sun but Spinners seem to have the edge, at least a little.

Takes-No-Prisoner

TequilaFire wrote: »

Just got all the ocean fish in front of Ad gates.
Watching all the yellow ride by. lol

lol I've done this while we were getting gated, there is a big pond just to the west of Black Boot. Should try out those spots there. None would see you.

reiverx wrote: »

I ended up going with Spinners. I tried Silks of the Sun but Spinners seem to have the edge, at least a little.

I have Spinners and Silks. Spinners is good for heavy armor, but medium/light/shielded targets can be hit or miss as far as over penetration goes. Silks I wasn't a fan of.

The biggest boon of BSW is the healing factor; Get BSW proc, Ingeous Shield, pop Dragon Blood and it can crit for 9-10k health when I get low. Don't get those buffs with Spinners or Silks sadly

t3hdubzy

Ive reinvigorated my dk with a seducer bsw build. I started with heavy armor and now im light armor, but still really tanky. Ive been using guard to protect and buff the dps in the group.

Fav char to play right now.

Bombing is fun but it gets repetitive after a few months lol.

Takes-No-Prisoner

I have a Seducer in light, was wondering how that would feel on my MagDK...buuut I mainly solo, so heavy is probably the better option for me.

How has guard been working out for you? I might want to try that if I get grouped.

t3hdubzy

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

I have a Seducer in light, was wondering how that would feel on my MagDK...buuut I mainly solo, so heavy is probably the better option for me.

How has guard been working out for you? I might want to try that if I get grouped.

Honestly stalwart guard is great it gives that minor force so great dps get buffed even more.

Heavy armor is still an option but i like being able to dps as well. I have seducer in both heavy and light, but the increased penetration allows me to finish fights faster.

I can survive really well 2 v 1 and come out on top and can prolong death 3 v 1.

TequilaFire

Five seducer Heavy with 2 Torug's and 2 Skoria for damage has been my friend for a long time on my Templar, glad to see old school coming back.
edit - forgot 3 Willpower.

wazzz56

I beg of you all..make lowbie yellow toons!

t3hdubzy

wazzz56 wrote: »

I beg of you all..make lowbie yellow toons!

I almost did during jesters, i still might one of these days..... templar or sorc, templar or sorc.

geonsocal

wazzz56 wrote: »

I beg of you all..make lowbie yellow toons!

I have to wait until the warden class to make the next AD character...i could bring my non vet DC and EP characters to come party for a bit in BwB

geonsocal

@Maff ...great suggestion on the witchmothers brew...got a bunch of it in the bank...

running: bsw (only did about a dozen runs through city of ash so I'm using jewelry and only 2 pieces of armor that had decent traits), heavy grothdar, and mother's sorrow (fairly cheap and easy to buy)...got my spell crit up to about 60%, but, I bet putting on some heavy seduces would feel really nice...

hopefully the witchmothers brew will do the trick...

t3hdubzy

geonsocal wrote: »

@Maff ...great suggestion on the witchmothers brew...got a bunch of it in the bank...

running: bsw (only did about a dozen runs through city of ash so I'm using jewelry and only 2 pieces of armor that had decent traits), heavy grothdar, and mother's sorrow (fairly cheap and easy to buy)...got my spell crit up to about 60%, but, I bet putting on some heavy seduces would feel really nice...

hopefully the witchmothers brew will do the trick...

Tell me how your sustain is in fights that last longer than 15 seconds.

Btw found a great tutorial on chest in coa which cut my grind way down. Also a friend showed me the boss that drops rings, and i had saved 3 pieces of bsw from dailies previously in case i ever wanted it.

geonsocal

t3hdubzy wrote: »

Tell me how your sustain is in fights that last longer than 15 seconds.

oh man, now that i'm ditching my regen drinks i'm having to actually use light and heavy attacks...basically though i'm standing there hoping my BSW and grothdar will proc

geonsocal

i have a strong feeling this set may fall under the excessive use of cheese category - but, thinking once my stam dk hits vet gearing him up (5 heavy, 2 medium) in tremorscale, black rose and shadow of the red mountain...

just wondering if any one else has used this set:
Shadow of the Red Mountain Set
LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160
(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 967 Maximum Stamina
(4 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Weapon ability, you have a 10% chance to deal an additional 8400 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 2 seconds

t3hdubzy

geonsocal wrote: »

i have a strong feeling this set may fall under the excessive use of cheese category - but, thinking once my stam dk hits vet gearing him up (5 heavy, 2 medium) in tremorscale, black rose and shadow of the red mountain...

just wondering if any one else has used this set:
Shadow of the Red Mountain Set
LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160
(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 967 Maximum Stamina
(4 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Weapon ability, you have a 10% chance to deal an additional 8400 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 2 seconds

Everyone raves about red mountIn, i tried it and thought it was terrivle compared to viper.

PhxOldGamer68

I have to hand it to AD. They stay out of the sewers in Scourge for the most part. All factions were 3 bars yesterday and AD had everything, but the 3 home keeps of DC and EP.

The 50 or more AD that took BRK last night was crazy. When the FD opened, that was the largest Banana Surprise ever. Reminds of the days when AD was always last and DC rode the Blue Wave through everything.

Good to see AD and DC in Haderus. EP is in last place this week. Healthier campaign.

geonsocal

t3hdubzy wrote: »

Everyone raves about red mountain, i tried it and thought it was terrible compared to viper.

thanks hubz...for the longest time i didn't want to use any sets (monster or regular) which had some crappy percentage of 20% or lower to proc...used to wear the affliction set just cuz it had a 50% proc rate...

over the last six months or so i came to realize that those 8%, 10%, 15% proc rates are more like 20 to 30% in reality...it seems to be the only time rng is in your favor is when it comes to your sets proccing

looking at those two sets:
Viper's Sting Set
(2 items) Adds 672 Weapon Critical
(3 items) Adds 965 Max Stamina
(4 items) Adds 672 Weapon Critical
(5 items) Your Melee Attacks deal 6720 Poison damage. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
versus
Shadow of the Red Mountain Set
(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 967 Maximum Stamina
(4 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Weapon ability, you have a 10% chance to deal an additional 8400 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 2 seconds

for this particular character i really need something that will proc off of his bow (acid spray in particular)...i think they "fixed" the viper set so that it no longer procs from a bow attack...

for my stam dk i'm either going to have to set up things so that i get the 5th piece bonus on the black rose on my SnB bar, or, give up trying to use the two piece tremorscale set so that both black rose and red mountain are "on" at all times...

I actually have a few pieces of viper because i thought i was going to use it on one of my nightblades at one time

TequilaFire

Yellow zerg on the flag!

(There is a dead red corpse in there somewhere.)

t3hdubzy

geonsocal wrote: »

t3hdubzy wrote: »

Everyone raves about red mountain, i tried it and thought it was terrible compared to viper.

thanks hubz...for the longest time i didn't want to use any sets (monster or regular) which had some crappy percentage of 20% or lower to proc...used to wear the affliction set just cuz it had a 50% proc rate...

over the last six months or so i came to realize that those 8%, 10%, 15% proc rates are more like 20 to 30% in reality...it seems to be the only time rng is in your favor is when it comes to your sets proccing

looking at those two sets:
Viper's Sting Set
(2 items) Adds 672 Weapon Critical
(3 items) Adds 965 Max Stamina
(4 items) Adds 672 Weapon Critical
(5 items) Your Melee Attacks deal 6720 Poison damage. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
versus
Shadow of the Red Mountain Set
(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 967 Maximum Stamina
(4 items) Adds 688 Weapon Critical
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Weapon ability, you have a 10% chance to deal an additional 8400 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 2 seconds

for this particular character i really need something that will proc off of his bow (acid spray in particular)...i think they "fixed" the viper set so that it no longer procs from a bow attack...

for my stam dk i'm either going to have to set up things so that i get the 5th piece bonus on the black rose on my SnB bar, or, give up trying to use the two piece tremorscale set so that both black rose and red mountain are "on" at all times...

I actually have a few pieces of viper because i thought i was going to use it on one of my nightblades at one time

Why not use both? Red mountain on bow and viper on 2hander? Still allows monster set. Or you could dual wield and uze both on dual wield as well.

I like sheer venom plus viper since sheer venom i only use with poison inj. And viper with 2hander only.


Its pure cheese but it works.

geonsocal

man, first time in a very long time I've felt like leaving cyrodiil due to discouragement...

trying to level my low 40ish DC stamdk...pvp isn't exactly the fastest grind - but, with the 2xp figured I'd at least have some fun leveling...

I've made less then 5k AP in the last hour...i'm not even sure how that's possible - except for the fact that i've lost just about every single fight that I've got in to...all small scale stuff...

time for a little afk action...

wazzz56

@geonsocal try this non proc set build.....

5 hundings body pieces
1 kena
1 veli
2 lekis swords/daggers (sharpened)or vma weapons
Sharpened 2h or bow depending on how you want to play

with the daggers on my Khajiit I have 5300 weapon damage 75% crit 33k stam 23 k health 1900 regen..it is fairly fun to play with and a simple build

t3hdubzy

wazzz56 wrote: »

@geonsocal try this non proc set build.....

5 hundings body pieces
1 kena
1 veli
2 lekis swords/daggers (sharpened)or vma weapons
Sharpened 2h or bow depending on how you want to play

with the daggers on my Khajiit I have 5300 weapon damage 75% crit 33k stam 23 k health 1900 regen..it is fairly fun to play with and a simple build

I previosly ran this as well and can vouch.