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Official Discussion Thread for Weapon Ultimates
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zerosingularity✭✭✭✭OK, if the post above with the pics is any indication, that S&B ult is way to OP. I could keep probably 60-70% up-time on it, imagine what good tanks could do. Ult needs to be ~200 for something like that.
That 2h ult, full refund on a kill, also waaaay too OP, tone that down HARD.
Kinda sad the DW ult is not the most PvE oriented, but that might just be me. The rest seem balanced.NA-PC
Kaineth - Stamina Nightblade (Weakest Player Ever!)
Elena Stormwood - Magicka Sorcerer (vMA no Death 12/21/15 Score 401148)
Sheila Feyrondas - Magicka Dragonknight Tank (Frost staves are gonna be fun!)
*Disclaimer* I fail at emotional communication, so assume what I say is NOT meant to be offensive.2 -
Peekachu99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The 2H ultimate is absurd when combined with the PVP meta for 2H. Rework it entirely.22 -
DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭zerosingularity wrote: »OK, if the post above with the pics is any indication, that S&B ult is way to OP. I could keep probably 60-70% up-time on it, imagine what good tanks could do. Ult needs to be ~200 for something like that.
That 2h ult, full refund on a kill, also waaaay too OP, tone that down HARD.
Kinda sad the DW ult is not the most PvE oriented, but that might just be me. The rest seem balanced.
DW ulti definitely is the most PvE oriented, if that DoT can be cleansed or negated with cloak.2 -
Toc de Malsvi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Destro looks a bit weak, casting yourself is nice for PVP, utilizing that with gap closing you can maintain full dot potential on people. I can only see this glitching out constantly.Legendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..0 -
UrQuan✭✭✭✭✭
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Agreed. But maybe a morph of it does? Has anyone seen the morphs and I maybe missed them?
I'm really disappointed that the restoration staff ultimate does not restore resources, missed opportunity IMO.
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
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Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
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Qwazzy✭✭✭✭Could we have a magic morph of the dual wield ultimate? Please!Smallscale/Solo player on multiple servers
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AD Templar - PvP 33
AD Nightblade - PvP 17
AD Dragonknight - PvP 19
AD Necromancer - PvP 22
EP Sorcerer - PvP 20
EP Templar - PvP 21
EP Nightblade - PvP 20
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DC Templar - PvP 24
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AD Sorcerer - PvP 20
AD Sorcerer - PvP 14
AD Templar - PvP 41
AD Templar - PvP 16
AD Templar - PvP 14
AD Warden - PvP 29
AD Nightblade - PvP 27
AD Dragonknight - PvP 18
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AD Templar - PvP 36
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Micah123✭✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »The 2H ultimate is absurd when combined with the PVP meta for 2H. Rework it entirely.
hope the 2 hander doesn't refund ult for each person killed...i know it doesn't say that, but ZOS.Edited by Micah123 on September 2, 2016 8:54PMTertiary Meat1 -
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OK, I could see that being potentially OP in PVP. I barely ever PVP so I don't have a good handle on how something like that would balance out with the healing reduction and stuff, so I'll bow to the judgement of those who do PVP on whether it's balanced for it or not.
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp0 -
Firerock2✭✭✭✭✭These are so bad and overpowered its funny, it will be sad though when this crap goes live.2 -
Blackfyre20✭✭✭✭Switch the 2H and destro ults. 2h needs aoe and destro needs single target.Buff Soft Caps16 -
Toc de Malsvi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Peekachu99 wrote: »The 2H ultimate is absurd when combined with the PVP meta for 2H. Rework it entirely.
hope the 2 hander doesn't refund ult for each person killed...i know it doesn't say that, but ZOS.
https://puu.sh/qXIXw.png
Read the green text in the backround below the title "berserkers rage"Legendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..1 -
zerosingularity✭✭✭✭zerosingularity wrote: »OK, if the post above with the pics is any indication, that S&B ult is way to OP. I could keep probably 60-70% up-time on it, imagine what good tanks could do. Ult needs to be ~200 for something like that.
That 2h ult, full refund on a kill, also waaaay too OP, tone that down HARD.
Kinda sad the DW ult is not the most PvE oriented, but that might just be me. The rest seem balanced.
DW ulti definitely is the most PvE oriented, if that DoT can be cleansed or negated with cloak.
I see it more anti-zerg oriented. But bow is silly and is gonna be the Ult of choice. Since it is a channel (like Soul Assault) then Maelstrom Daggers buff it, so it will look more like 80-100k damage over 4 seconds, and if you take the insta-cast morph...
yeah, that sounds interesting. Kinda hope it DOESN'T work in this manner.Edited by zerosingularity on September 2, 2016 8:57PMNA-PC
Kaineth - Stamina Nightblade (Weakest Player Ever!)
Elena Stormwood - Magicka Sorcerer (vMA no Death 12/21/15 Score 401148)
Sheila Feyrondas - Magicka Dragonknight Tank (Frost staves are gonna be fun!)
*Disclaimer* I fail at emotional communication, so assume what I say is NOT meant to be offensive.0 -
Firerock2✭✭✭✭✭Blackfyre20 wrote: »Switch the 2H and destro ults. 2h needs aoe and destro needs single target.
It needs to be that spin2win ultimate you see bosses with a 2h do in the IC.5 -
Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Literally resto-ult is better than templar healing ult
Edited by Cinbri on September 3, 2016 6:26AM10 -
Micah123✭✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »The 2H ultimate is absurd when combined with the PVP meta for 2H. Rework it entirely.
hope the 2 hander doesn't refund ult for each person killed...i know it doesn't say that, but ZOS.
https://puu.sh/qXIXw.png
Read the green text in the backround below the title "berserkers rage"
I know I saw that. I meant you kill 1 guy and you get that ult cost back. You kill 5 guys you get 5 time ult cost back.Edited by Micah123 on September 2, 2016 8:59PMTertiary Meat0 -
Peekachu99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Oh, some positive feedback: the shield ultimate, cost and everything, actually makes it kinda tempting for my tanks. Not over warhorn for super serious content, but could be fun in vet four mans. Good work there, ZoS. I'm glad you didn't change the whole game and do a group-wide taunt. Never, ever do that. We have WoW and every other MMORPG released in the last decade for that.0 -
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✭Blackfyre20 wrote: »Switch the 2H and destro ults. 2h needs aoe and destro needs single target.
Exactly This.When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.1 -
Sugaroverdose✭✭✭✭✭
Tssss, zos battle team are 'special' don't give them such ideasBlackfyre20 wrote: »Switch the 2H and destro ults. 2h needs aoe and destro needs single target.
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I really dislike the destruction staff one.
Magica did NOT need more aoe ultimates. It needed a singletarget burst one.
We have Nova, negate, standard, veil and batswarm all of which are in their way more tempting than this destro ultimate.
That´s just sad.<Noricum>
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Derrah - EP - Sorc - AvA 5015 -
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✭Holy *** just got in the 2h tooltip says: "Killing an enemy with this ability immediately refunds the ultimate cost." WTF8 -
SublimeSparo✭✭✭✭✭Rugz_Maulgoth wrote: »The thing I am most excited about is healers getting Major Force. Now to theory craft my sorc tank again...
It's called Warhorn and gives it to 12 people for 9.5s as well as 10% more max srarsPS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
4th Console vMOL clear,
vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic
My TribeEU
High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank
NA
Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank4 -
psychotic13✭✭✭✭✭
✭SublimeSparo wrote: »Rugz_Maulgoth wrote: »The thing I am most excited about is healers getting Major Force. Now to theory craft my sorc tank again...
It's called Warhorn and gives it to 12 people for 9.5s as well as 10% more max srars
True, but people may argue that if the healer can grant major force then you don't need to run ulti gen tanks to keep the buff up.
destro disappoints meEdited by psychotic13 on September 2, 2016 9:09PM1 -
SublimeSparo✭✭✭✭✭You need 4 people, 2 tanks and 2 healers to keep major force up with warhorn. The resto one may cost lesd but only grsnts it to one person, possibly themselvesPS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
4th Console vMOL clear,
vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic
My TribeEU
High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank
NA
Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank1 -
dagonbeer✭✭✭I mostly play stam for pvp, but still I'm disappointed that they saddled magicka with another aoe ultimate with a windup. Missed opportunity to fill the magic dawnbreaker void.2
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Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭in one word - finally templar will have usefull ult beside Devouring Swarm
Edited by Cinbri on September 2, 2016 9:12PM1 -
SublimeSparo✭✭✭✭✭Spear wall would not be able to be used in vMoL final boss as reflecting those projectiles heals the boss. And again is not as good as Warhorn/ Veil of Blades / Magma Shell / Nova or Empowering Sweep. Maybe for a sorc tank but meh. Might be ok in pvp / decent for tanking axes in AAEdited by SublimeSparo on September 2, 2016 9:13PMPS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
4th Console vMOL clear,
vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic
My TribeEU
High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank
NA
Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank1 -
ClockworkArc✭✭✭SublimeSparo wrote: »Rugz_Maulgoth wrote: »The thing I am most excited about is healers getting Major Force. Now to theory craft my sorc tank again...
It's called Warhorn and gives it to 12 people for 9.5s as well as 10% more max srars
Yeah but i've pressed that ult so many times...
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Toc de Malsvi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »The 2H ultimate is absurd when combined with the PVP meta for 2H. Rework it entirely.
hope the 2 hander doesn't refund ult for each person killed...i know it doesn't say that, but ZOS.
https://puu.sh/qXIXw.png
Read the green text in the backround below the title "berserkers rage"
I know I saw that. I meant you kill 1 guy and you get that ult cost back. You kill 5 guys you get 5 time ult cost back.
It's single target so you cant kill 5 guys with it. Unless you were meaning there to be some inherent cooldown on the ult return.Edited by Toc de Malsvi on September 2, 2016 9:14PMLegendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭zerosingularity wrote: »OK, if the post above with the pics is any indication, that S&B ult is way to OP. I could keep probably 60-70% up-time on it, imagine what good tanks could do. Ult needs to be ~200 for something like that.
Really? It seems kinda underwhelming to me.
I mean, an ULTIMATE, and the only effect is that it basically saves you some stamina every now and then. And the more block cost reduction you have, the worse the ultimate is(because it saves less stamina).
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