Hold up guys I cant go to trials tonight I have to farm solo for my gear@ZOS_GinaBrunoZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Well that's the issue, seeing as I run high end dungeons and Trials
This mainly puts a massive hindrance on trials especially, if I was raid leading most people can't get the best gear anymore, they wont be getting invited to raids or anything like that if they are wanting to start out, I understand that the best gear is already Bind on Pickup, but your other option is Bind on Equip gear and after that is crafted gear
Not only that but right now the economy is utter crap, removing Bind on Equip from trials just ruins raiders too, we can't sell gear to the community, we can't buy anything because of it either, I just don't understand what this will achieve, are you trying to cause more PUG and group finder groups to sell your loot within groups to each other, because friends dont do that with each other, and most people wont run in them anyway because of the gear issue
That is just my opinion, personally I think it's a very unhealthy addition and will just breed more elitism and divide raiders apart from the experienced and non experienced
Actually getting the gear like the sun set for instance, won't be an issue, as it will drop in normal overland content (stonefalls) now also.
I agree it hurts people selling it though...
Yeah, sounds good doesn't it I can't support this change what so ever, just doesn't seem right, not only do I help people farm for gear and trade it with them if they are offline or something and helping friends complete gear sets who are not in my group, but now they have to farm SOLO for it, as if Maelstrom wasn't enough
Some of the people that want stuff don't step foot in trials, some of these sets are also largely popular inside Cyrodill, not only does this destroy PvE and breeds elitism out the ass for end game PvE but now it also forces PvP players to come into trials who can't get any groups, or they would have to farm itHold up guys I cant go to trials tonight I have to farm solo for my gear@ZOS_GinaBrunoZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Well that's the issue, seeing as I run high end dungeons and Trials
This mainly puts a massive hindrance on trials especially, if I was raid leading most people can't get the best gear anymore, they wont be getting invited to raids or anything like that if they are wanting to start out, I understand that the best gear is already Bind on Pickup, but your other option is Bind on Equip gear and after that is crafted gear
Not only that but right now the economy is utter crap, removing Bind on Equip from trials just ruins raiders too, we can't sell gear to the community, we can't buy anything because of it either, I just don't understand what this will achieve, are you trying to cause more PUG and group finder groups to sell your loot within groups to each other, because friends dont do that with each other, and most people wont run in them anyway because of the gear issue
That is just my opinion, personally I think it's a very unhealthy addition and will just breed more elitism and divide raiders apart from the experienced and non experienced
Actually getting the gear like the sun set for instance, won't be an issue, as it will drop in normal overland content (stonefalls) now also.
I agree it hurts people selling it though...
Yeah, sounds good doesn't it
Better than having to buy it... you're complaining that people can't get it outside of trials (otherwise, what is the problem with it being BoP if you're going to use it yourself ? )
Why was having this stuff as BoE an issue? It's going to ruin the economy, enforce solo game play even more, a lot of players will be under equipped rather than just buying stuff and it is also going to make it hell for PvP players
The plus side, you get to use group finder and trade more/talk with the community
But really, most groups will stay in their small circle of friends anyway
For once, there is no nerfs in this patch notes.
Too bad we need a lot of them.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Nifty knows that... He means that trading with the group isn't enough. This change will gut the game's economy and limit powerful sets to people who heavily farm trials. Not a good decision.
Some of the people that want stuff don't step foot in trials, some of these sets are also largely popular inside Cyrodill, not only does this destroy PvE and breeds elitism out the ass for end game PvE but now it also forces PvP players to come into trials who can't get any groups, or they would have to farm itHold up guys I cant go to trials tonight I have to farm solo for my gear@ZOS_GinaBrunoZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Well that's the issue, seeing as I run high end dungeons and Trials
This mainly puts a massive hindrance on trials especially, if I was raid leading most people can't get the best gear anymore, they wont be getting invited to raids or anything like that if they are wanting to start out, I understand that the best gear is already Bind on Pickup, but your other option is Bind on Equip gear and after that is crafted gear
Not only that but right now the economy is utter crap, removing Bind on Equip from trials just ruins raiders too, we can't sell gear to the community, we can't buy anything because of it either, I just don't understand what this will achieve, are you trying to cause more PUG and group finder groups to sell your loot within groups to each other, because friends dont do that with each other, and most people wont run in them anyway because of the gear issue
That is just my opinion, personally I think it's a very unhealthy addition and will just breed more elitism and divide raiders apart from the experienced and non experienced
Actually getting the gear like the sun set for instance, won't be an issue, as it will drop in normal overland content (stonefalls) now also.
I agree it hurts people selling it though...
Yeah, sounds good doesn't it
Better than having to buy it... you're complaining that people can't get it outside of trials (otherwise, what is the problem with it being BoP if you're going to use it yourself ? )
Why was having this stuff as BoE an issue? It's going to ruin the economy, enforce solo game play even more, a lot of players will be under equipped rather than just buying stuff and it is also going to make it hell for PvP players
The plus side, you get to use group finder and trade more/talk with the community
But really, most groups will stay in their small circle of friends anyway
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Undaunted Pledges
We have redesigned the Pledge system to offer more rewards more often, and at a predictable rate.
- There is no longer a Bronze, Silver and Gold key. All keys have been converted Undaunted Keys and reward a Shoulder set piece with each use.
- There are now three pledge givers for Undaunted Dungeon quests, with each offering a unique Pledge each day. They also have a corresponding chest which, when an Undaunted Key is used, will offer a Shoulder set piece from one of the Dungeon Pledges they offer.
- Maj al-Ragath offers a random Pledge for the following Dungeons:
- Banished Cells I & II
- Darkshade Caverns I & II
- Elden Hollow I & II
- Fungal Grotto I & II
- Spindleclutch I & II
- Wayrest Sewers I & II
- Gilirion the Redbeard offers a random Pledge for the following Dungeons:
- Arx Corinium
- Blackheart Haven
- Blessed Crucible
- City of Ash I & II
- Crypt of Hearts I & II
- Direfrost
- Selene’s Web
- Tempest Island
- Vaults of Madness
- Volenfell
- Urgalarg Chief-bane offers a random Pledge for the following Dungeons:
- Cradle of Shadows
- Imperial City Prison
- Ruins of Mazzatun
- White-Gold Tower
- Each pledge can be completed in one of three ways for a total of up to six keys per day.
- Normal Dungeon: Completing a Pledge in a Normal version of the dungeon awards a single Undaunted Key.
- Veteran Dungeon: Completing a Pledge in a Veteran version of the dungeon awards a single Undaunted Key, but completing Veteran versions of the Dungeon are also the only way to get the Undaunted Monster Masks.
- Veteran Hard Mode: Completing a Pledge in a Veteran version of the dungeon after the final boss has been made more difficult will award two Undaunted Keys, in addition to awarding the Monster Mask from completing a Veteran Dungeon.
- All previous dungeons that did not have a Hard Mode have been given a way to activate a mode that makes the final boss more difficult in the Veteran version, activated by the Scroll of Glorious Battle found in the final boss’ room.
For once, there is no nerfs in this patch notes.
Too bad we need a lot of them.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Nifty knows that... He means that trading with the group isn't enough. This change will gut the game's economy and limit powerful sets to people who heavily farm trials. Not a good decision.
For once, there is no nerfs in this patch notes.
Too bad we need a lot of them.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Nifty knows that... He means that trading with the group isn't enough. This change will gut the game's economy and limit powerful sets to people who heavily farm trials. Not a good decision.
This seriously took way half of the incentive to run trials.
themdogesbite wrote: »Hm, why remove the scaffolding on Chalman gate? And no doors on towers. I don't see why this would be changed.
I'd liek to see some more class balance changes aswell. Meh.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Hold up guys I cant go to trials tonight I have to farm solo for my gear@ZOS_GinaBrunoZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Well that's the issue, seeing as I run high end dungeons and Trials
This mainly puts a massive hindrance on trials especially, if I was raid leading most people can't get the best gear anymore, they wont be getting invited to raids or anything like that if they are wanting to start out, I understand that the best gear is already Bind on Pickup, but your other option is Bind on Equip gear and after that is crafted gear
Not only that but right now the economy is utter crap, removing Bind on Equip from trials just ruins raiders too, we can't sell gear to the community, we can't buy anything because of it either, I just don't understand what this will achieve, are you trying to cause more PUG and group finder groups to sell your loot within groups to each other, because friends dont do that with each other, and most people wont run in them anyway because of the gear issue
That is just my opinion, personally I think it's a very unhealthy addition and will just breed more elitism and divide raiders apart from the experienced and non experienced
Actually getting the gear like the sun set for instance, won't be an issue, as it will drop in normal overland content (stonefalls) now also.
I agree it hurts people selling it though...
Yeah, sounds good doesn't it I can't support this change what so ever, just doesn't seem right, not only do I help people farm for gear and trade it with them if they are offline or something and helping friends complete gear sets who are not in my group, but now they have to farm SOLO for it, as if Maelstrom wasn't enough
Or...
Before: I got a Silks of the sun ring. I could either sell it or give it to a group mate. Theyre going for 500k, I'll sell it.
Now: I got a sills of the sun ring. I don't have a magicka dk so I'll give it the mdk in the group because it's bound.
I feel like it promotes generosity over greed imo.
If you want trial gear, do trial content, makes sense to me
Some of the people that want stuff don't step foot in trials, some of these sets are also largely popular inside Cyrodill, not only does this destroy PvE and breeds elitism out the ass for end game PvE but now it also forces PvP players to come into trials who can't get any groups, or they would have to farm itHold up guys I cant go to trials tonight I have to farm solo for my gear@ZOS_GinaBrunoZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Well that's the issue, seeing as I run high end dungeons and Trials
This mainly puts a massive hindrance on trials especially, if I was raid leading most people can't get the best gear anymore, they wont be getting invited to raids or anything like that if they are wanting to start out, I understand that the best gear is already Bind on Pickup, but your other option is Bind on Equip gear and after that is crafted gear
Not only that but right now the economy is utter crap, removing Bind on Equip from trials just ruins raiders too, we can't sell gear to the community, we can't buy anything because of it either, I just don't understand what this will achieve, are you trying to cause more PUG and group finder groups to sell your loot within groups to each other, because friends dont do that with each other, and most people wont run in them anyway because of the gear issue
That is just my opinion, personally I think it's a very unhealthy addition and will just breed more elitism and divide raiders apart from the experienced and non experienced
Actually getting the gear like the sun set for instance, won't be an issue, as it will drop in normal overland content (stonefalls) now also.
I agree it hurts people selling it though...
Yeah, sounds good doesn't it
Better than having to buy it... you're complaining that people can't get it outside of trials (otherwise, what is the problem with it being BoP if you're going to use it yourself ? )
Why was having this stuff as BoE an issue? It's going to ruin the economy, enforce solo game play even more, a lot of players will be under equipped rather than just buying stuff and it is also going to make it hell for PvP players
The plus side, you get to use group finder and trade more/talk with the community
But really, most groups will stay in their small circle of friends anyway
You missed the whole pointHold up guys I cant go to trials tonight I have to farm solo for my gear@ZOS_GinaBrunoZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Well that's the issue, seeing as I run high end dungeons and Trials
This mainly puts a massive hindrance on trials especially, if I was raid leading most people can't get the best gear anymore, they wont be getting invited to raids or anything like that if they are wanting to start out, I understand that the best gear is already Bind on Pickup, but your other option is Bind on Equip gear and after that is crafted gear
Not only that but right now the economy is utter crap, removing Bind on Equip from trials just ruins raiders too, we can't sell gear to the community, we can't buy anything because of it either, I just don't understand what this will achieve, are you trying to cause more PUG and group finder groups to sell your loot within groups to each other, because friends dont do that with each other, and most people wont run in them anyway because of the gear issue
That is just my opinion, personally I think it's a very unhealthy addition and will just breed more elitism and divide raiders apart from the experienced and non experienced
Actually getting the gear like the sun set for instance, won't be an issue, as it will drop in normal overland content (stonefalls) now also.
I agree it hurts people selling it though...
Yeah, sounds good doesn't it I can't support this change what so ever, just doesn't seem right, not only do I help people farm for gear and trade it with them if they are offline or something and helping friends complete gear sets who are not in my group, but now they have to farm SOLO for it, as if Maelstrom wasn't enough
Or...
Before: I got a Silks of the sun ring. I could either sell it or give it to a group mate. Theyre going for 500k, I'll sell it.
Now: I got a sills of the sun ring. I don't have a magicka dk so I'll give it the mdk in the group because it's bound.
I feel like it promotes generosity over greed imo.
If you want trial gear, do trial content, makes sense to me
AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »For once, there is no nerfs in this patch notes.
Too bad we need a lot of them.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Nifty knows that... He means that trading with the group isn't enough. This change will gut the game's economy and limit powerful sets to people who heavily farm trials. Not a good decision.
This seriously took way half of the incentive to run trials.
@susmitds or they made it so that you can do what you really want to do? I want to PvP. Silks of the sun makes my mDK waaaay more competitive. Right now, I can farm trials, which I don't enjoy, or farm gold to buy them (which I don't enjoy). Would you rather run a trial with someone that wants to run it because they enjoy it or someone like me that hates learning new mechanics and just wants to get it done so I can get my gear to get back to doing what I really want to be doing?
@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
I am complaining for your benefit, not mine.@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Dude you can now trade within your group bind on pick up items please .How about you play the game now and stop complaining.
I am complaining for your benefit, not mine.@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Dude you can now trade within your group bind on pick up items please .How about you play the game now and stop complaining.
For once, there is no nerfs in this patch notes.
Too bad we need a lot of them.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@ZOS_GinaBrunoThis sounds like a mistake, if not, what the hell is that change? You want people to be broke? How do you expect people to be raid ready?All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
Wtf is this
Don't forget you can trade within your group.
Nifty knows that... He means that trading with the group isn't enough. This change will gut the game's economy and limit powerful sets to people who heavily farm trials. Not a good decision.