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What do you think of Crown Store Random boxes/Lottery box?
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Edgemoor✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Swtor has them; honestly never had a issue with them in that game. They didn't add anything that had an actual effect on the game, it's all cosmetic... People who whine about are just pathetic silly children who demand everything be given to them for free.
But all the good stuff goes into the cartel packs, hardly anything elsewhere. And after a while the chance to get anything good is now so low the only use for them is as a means to convert real money into game cash.
While this is true you can also pretty much spend in game cash on any of these said items vs real life money in that game...so its not a huge issue.
In swtor prices on the GTN are astronomical and utterly bizarre. True other events may well have contributed but there is no doubt that the rarest items are like rocking horse pellets and go for bizarre sums. But, thats not my concern ....
The gamblng pack addiction works two ways; one with players, and second with the developers.
I dislike the gambling packs simply because they suck the creative soul out of a game, in my opinion, and eventually it becomes more a priority to get new packs out than invest in the game; new content, bug fixing enhancements etc. It's not free and I don't expect it to be.
On the other hand, like anything, if restraint and sensible management is used it could be a real crown store asset providing revenue and a source of new cosmetics and content for us all.
ESO have proven pretty sensible so far, my hopes are high.Edited by Edgemoor on August 22, 2016 2:50AM3 -
elvenmad✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.First of all - It only contains a consumable item that you can ALREADY PURCHASE in the store. It also gives you only cosmetic items, IE nothing that would give you a advantage over another player.
erm nope., NOTHING about things you can already purchase in store. and I quote:
First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.
well...'consumables' pretty much covers ANYTHING and EVERYTHING in the game, except of course it was clear Armor and weapons would not be included.
So yes players worries concerning anything actual gameplay related is quite valid.. and personally I can see that happening the most valuable things in game are the things that make your character better. believe me ZOS know this as every other game publisher does concerning their own RNG boxes and their most valuable contents.
Mounts a costumes are fine, BUT they are a one time purchase item, once you have the ones you want, there's no need to spend any more cash, while necessary consumable sales NEVER dry up, players can never have enough, its a full time 100% 24/7 non stop sale item< PC - EU >1 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Like I said in the other thread, if these were 3,000 crowns each and had at least 3,000 crowns worth of stuff - a rare mount and a small stack of utility items to make up the difference - then I wouldn't mind it. You'd be paying face value and getting something of face value. It's just like buying anything else in the crown store, only you're saying that you'd be happy with whatever you get be it senche, wolf, bear, or camel.
And I don't mind physical blind boxes. I get a physical item that I get to keep or sell. I paid for it. It's mine. It holds some value for my entire life even if it's not exactly what I wanted.
But I don't own anything in a digital lockbox. I'm gambling a smaller amount on something that's not mine to keep and most likely winding up with garbage I don't want that's still not even my property. It's not fun to blow thousands and thousands of earned units of in-game currency on getting crap. I don't care if crowns are a digital currency. Dumping 3200 crowns on 8 lockboxes and getting nothing fun in return is a kick in the fleshy Newton's cradle.
ZOS apparently has too many crowns in circulation. That's their fault for dumping tons of crowns into sub accounts each month and having sales on them without really offering anything monthly that truly enhances the game experience. They created the problem. They have to fix it. And they're not really all that great at fixing stuff so this is what we get.
Manipulation disguised as opportunity.signing off7 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.I will say it again . If I've been going to a store and buying things off the shelf for years and now the store says no , you can't buy that anymore you have to buy a lottery ticket to win , a good thing for me that I need ? I didn't need a bag full of goodies when I went to the store before , I just needed a ride ! One mount . Always bought that one thing I wanted before ! Now I have to win what I want .
It's not something the Devs have to do , there's not a real lack of space in the crown store . They could just put what I asked for in the store . Why do I need to participate in winning things I don't want in order to get what I do want ?!
If a Grocery store did this you would walk in and find out you can't buy Apples anymore . You can buy a mystery bag of fruit with a chance to win apples but it may have spinach , lettuce and or mushrooms instead in the bag . You still win something even if not what you went shopping for ! Would you go grocery shopping there anymore ? Seriously ?4 -
Shimmer✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmeticsFirst of all - It only contains a consumable item that you can ALREADY PURCHASE in the store. It also gives you only cosmetic items, IE nothing that would give you a advantage over another player.
erm nope., NOTHING about things you can already purchase in store. and I quote:
First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.
well...'consumables' pretty much covers ANYTHING and EVERYTHING in the game, except of course it was clear Armor and weapons would not be included.
So yes players worries concerning anything actual gameplay related is quite valid.. and personally I can see that happening the most valuable things in game are the things that make your character better. believe me ZOS know this as every other game publisher does concerning their own RNG boxes and their most valuable contents.
Mounts a costumes are fine, BUT they are a one time purchase item, once you have the ones you want, there's no need to spend any more cash, while necessary consumable sales NEVER dry up, players can never have enough, its a full time 100% 24/7 non stop sale item
https://youtu.be/4UcmPeXG7qQ?t=8m11s
I put a time specific link for you. He states it will contain "One consumable, things you can already purchase in the store anyway"Edited by Shimmer on August 22, 2016 2:55AM0 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.First of all - It only contains a consumable item that you can ALREADY PURCHASE in the store. It also gives you only cosmetic items, IE nothing that would give you a advantage over another player.
erm nope., NOTHING about things you can already purchase in store. and I quote:
First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.
well...'consumables' pretty much covers ANYTHING and EVERYTHING in the game, except of course it was clear Armor and weapons would not be included.
So yes players worries concerning anything actual gameplay related is quite valid.. and personally I can see that happening the most valuable things in game are the things that make your character better. believe me ZOS know this as every other game publisher does concerning their own RNG boxes and their most valuable contents.
Mounts a costumes are fine, BUT they are a one time purchase item, once you have the ones you want, there's no need to spend any more cash, while necessary consumable sales NEVER dry up, players can never have enough, its a full time 100% 24/7 non stop sale item
Let's just take a moment to clarify what consumables in ESO are:
Maps,potions,writs,motifs,food,soul gems,and wait for it....crafting materials.
Step right up and get your alloys and wax!!!
Here's another thing to ponder,just cause it isn't in the game/store now doesn't mean it won't be at some other point.
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gambleI'm hoping the next episode of ESO Live will shed some light on some important aspects of these bags, like drop rate of the rarer stuff and the Crown Gem conversion.
I want to see if a direct mount->mount trade is possible if they were previously put up in the Crown Store for the same price.
For example, say I get the Clouded Senche from a box. It costed 2500 Crowns when it was put on the store, if I remember it correctly, and I already own it. So, they said I can exchange repeated stuff for these "Crown Gems". I want to know if I will get enough Crown Gems to buy, say, the Pale Velothi Guar, that was 2500 Crowns when it was in the Crown Store.
In short, I want to know if the value of the stuff dropped from the store will match the value of the stuff offered on this special Crown Gem section of the Crown Store. I think this is an important aspect of it, because if you get less Crown Gems than what your duplicate is worth in the Crown Gem section, that would be pretty awful.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.4 -
elvenmad✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.First of all - It only contains a consumable item that you can ALREADY PURCHASE in the store. It also gives you only cosmetic items, IE nothing that would give you a advantage over another player.
erm nope., NOTHING about things you can already purchase in store. and I quote:
First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.
well...'consumables' pretty much covers ANYTHING and EVERYTHING in the game, except of course it was clear Armor and weapons would not be included.
So yes players worries concerning anything actual gameplay related is quite valid.. and personally I can see that happening the most valuable things in game are the things that make your character better. believe me ZOS know this as every other game publisher does concerning their own RNG boxes and their most valuable contents.
Mounts a costumes are fine, BUT they are a one time purchase item, once you have the ones you want, there's no need to spend any more cash, while necessary consumable sales NEVER dry up, players can never have enough, its a full time 100% 24/7 non stop sale itemhttps://youtu.be/4UcmPeXG7qQ?t=8m11s
I put a time specific link for you. He states it will contain "One consumable, things you can already purchase in the store anyway"
AH OK, I stand corrected, but prefer to still go off the written statement
However the video only states you are 'guaranteed to get a consumable item' so bassically your guaranteed to at least say for example get one Crown Fortifying Meal.................well GG there, go to the Crown store and you can purchase outright 10 x Crown Fortifying Meals for the exact same price 400 Crowns.
I am sorry but I still stand by my belief and experience of were the introduction of these boxes in game is eventually heading.
Do you really, really believe ZOS will introduce a new system into the game that as already been well proven tried and tested by just about every game publisher on the planet to generate more income than anything else by including necessary gameplay consumables they will not take advantage of it ! REALLY
Edited by elvenmad on August 22, 2016 3:28AM< PC - EU >1 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Taleof2Cities wrote: »
They were announced with exclusive content.1 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Disclaimer - This isn't a defense of ZOS adding lockboxes. This is a defense of the currently unfounded claim that ZOS said they never would.
It actually kinda is. I'm sorry, but there's no other point to that post. Additionally, there was a "no, never" quote, probably on ESO live, I just can't be bothered to hunt it down for you because, quite frankly, at this point? I've got better things to do with my life.
If the only thing we'd gotten saying, "no lockboxes" was a mealy mouthed, "no plans at this time," I would not have come back. The quote exists out there. If you don't believe me, or want to prove me wrong, you can go prove it's never been stated.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Panda_iMunch wrote: »Divines, the worth has been worn out of this post and is now replaced with animosity. Since this system is not out nor fully explained, this 'speculation' is just serves no point. Ohhh, there selling cosmetic items, nothing new. This fear that it will educe a gambling and P2W culture is unfounded as the game has had no intention of doing so for as long as I can tell, so just chill.
Test it when it comes out in 2 weeks and see if it's worth it. If not? Make some recommendations.
Nothing new, except for the new exclusive mounts that Matt and Gina both said would be in it. So, nothing new except for the new stuff. Right...3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Considering this thread has gone 38 pages in just two days, I think they should SERIOUSLY reconsider going this route! There are plenty of other ways to add income to the game without adding in a gambling 'RNG' type of lottery box and include special and unique items that aren't purchasable otherwise. As others noted, it seems like a desperate means of grabbing income, and an unnecessary means at that.
I understand some people really don't like this and while I respect their opinion, this thread has had only 594 votes and the 38 pages of comments have been many people trying to share their point of view in a very back and forth manner. The number of people commenting and voting don't make much a dent in 7 million players. Not even if we're only talking 2 million active.
I think the conversation is important however and those of us that love ESO have a responsibility to provide the feedback we feel is appropriate.
With that being said I think it's fairly obvious that lockboxes can and will be a good source of income for the company if games like SWTOR and some others any indication. If you are going to have lockboxes in a game at all, then at least they have chosen to execute it in a very smart way to negate any impact on game play.
LMAO are you seriously trying to take that comment at E3 at face value and use it in your argument? How many of those 7 million accounts are active? How many are bots? How many are accounts that belong to people now banned? How many of them are sockpuppet accounts?
Anyone that was watching that announcement knew they werent talking about 7 million active individual players. Far from it.
Even if it were just 1 million, 594 votes is still a small fraction.
It is, however, enough to generate a decent survey population. Someone's been saying it's at ~5%, and if self-selection wasn't an issue, that would be true. However, even accounting for self-selection, this is a very strong negative reaction.
The vast majority of players do not know the lockboxes are a thing, yet. They have no idea. The vast majority of those seven million players won't know about them until they hit the live server.3 -
Wolfshead✭✭✭✭Well to be honest with you all it is samething SWTOR have today and i dont see any problem with it but i just hope that still will sell mount, customs, pet and cosmetics as the do today as well.If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity0 -
Esquire1980g_ESO✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Well to be honest with you all it is samething SWTOR have today and i dont see any problem with it but i just hope that still will sell mount, customs, pet and cosmetics as the do today as well.
That's the problem, if we wanted to play TOR, we'd be over there.
I'm positive that part of the draw to ESO is due to the fact that ZOS hasn't had these types of "deals". At least it was for me. And if they do complete their plan, that draw ends. And if I have to play a game with lockboxes, I believe I'd hit one with lightsabers as I played Galaxies for so long.3 -
JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Guys, lets get real here. Its a game. This whole thing is so blown out of proportion that its getting to the point of silliness. Comparing them to slavers, drug lords, enablers of gambling addicts etc is just plain silly. ZOS has to make some cash and this is a GREAT way to do it without making it P2W or ruining the economy as other games have done when instituting theirs.
Please tell me why this is a great way of doing it I'm very curious . Why is it great for me to buy loot box with chances of item I may want from RNG instead of purchasing said item direct from crown store ? Why is this GREAT idea please ?
First of all - It only contains a consumable item that you can ALREADY PURCHASE in the store. It also gives you only cosmetic items, IE nothing that would give you a advantage over another player.
Second - Those items are NOT tradeable or sellable to others - that would ruin the economy as it has in other games.
Third - You can exchange dupes for gems to purchase the things you DO want to have.
Finally - the game has another source of income that has proven to work in other games, that will allow it to stay alive for a long time to come.
The only thing the boxes do, is make you look fantastic while swinging a sword, or running around on your fancy rare mount.
I wanna buy the clouded leopard senche. Or the leopard leopard senche.
Only thing is, I can't. Those mounts are not available in the store anymore. They were limited time items.
Now supposedly the limited time mounts *might* be included in the rng boxes. Maybe. So if I want the clouded leopard senche, I'm going to have to buy a rng box in the hope I might luck out and get the one I want. And if I don't, I'm sure ZOS will be happy to let me buy more rng boxes to try to get the mount I want.
If they are going to give out "gems" for dupes to let you trade a dupe, why can't they let me buy the mount I want, without the stuff I don't want. They will get my money if they do that. They are not going to get my money if they stick to the rng boxes.5 -
Wolfshead✭✭✭✭Esquire1980g_ESO wrote: »Well to be honest with you all it is samething SWTOR have today and i dont see any problem with it but i just hope that still will sell mount, customs, pet and cosmetics as the do today as well.
That's the problem, if we wanted to play TOR, we'd be over there.
I'm positive that part of the draw to ESO is due to the fact that ZOS hasn't had these types of "deals". At least it was for me. And if they do complete their plan, that draw ends. And if I have to play a game with lockboxes, I believe I'd hit one with lightsabers as I played Galaxies for so long.
Well consider that few of key people have been work on SWTOR before the work on ESO so im not surprise see this in ESO other.
But what im think what if you have already buy most if think that drop those random "lockbox" then it make them total mening less and if i already have item that i get from those lockbox do i get refound for as our Collections system work today all char get those item so yeah that is big thing to think about.Edited by Wolfshead on August 22, 2016 4:58AMIf you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity0 -
Synfaer✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Would this be legally regarded as gambling in some countries?
I know that the Aussie government were looking into restricting gambling in gaming media.2 -
elvenmad✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Would this be legally regarded as gambling in some countries?
I know that the Aussie government were looking into restricting gambling in gaming media.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3281384/#Comment_3281384< PC - EU >0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Would this be legally regarded as gambling in some countries?
I know that the Aussie government were looking into restricting gambling in gaming media.
Right now? No. Or at least not in any country anyone cares about. With CSGO's mess drawing more media attention, it's quite possible this could get regulated in the future.0 -
Esquire1980g_ESO✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Speaking of CSGO, I found a rather interesting article, it brings up also some of @Lysette and @Cazzy points that they have made in this thread also.
http://wccftech.com/problem-underage-gambling-csgo-rise/
And Lysette, the US have statute based on some of what you've been speaking to as well. But, this is more directed at card companies to place restrictions/proceedures for and against. https://www.fdic.gov/news/news/financial/2010/fil10035a.pdf for overview.Edited by Esquire1980g_ESO on August 22, 2016 6:09AM1 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Esquire1980g_ESO wrote: »Speaking of CSGO, I found a rather interesting article, it brings up also some of @Lysette and @Cazzy points that they have made in this thread also.
http://wccftech.com/problem-underage-gambling-csgo-rise/
Yeah, that was long before the CSGO situation went nuclear. Though the Class Action suit may date back to around that time, I'm uncertain.
It was later revealed that a couple popular streamers actually owned a site they'd been plugging, and another streamer admitted that (on another site) the admins had deliberately fudged the rolls in his favor while streaming, to make the site more appealing.0 -
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✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Well it is possible they could ban using real money to get in game currency to use an item to open a lock box that is basically a gamble at a chance of items in the future. This would kill cryptics lockbox system if implemented in major policy in certain countries. I think this would save a lot of people money maybe, because of the lockbox system/mysteryboxrng is designed to get people to spend lots of money. The way gaming companies do it allows them to bypass laws or restrictions. Maybe because they always give you something from lockboxes/rng boxes . But I imagine they will change things to make this micro transaction practice illegal forcing gaming companies and mmo companies to give it up some point in the future.Edited by Thevampirenight on August 22, 2016 6:07AMPC NA
Please add Fangs to Vampires.0 -
Elijah_Crow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmeticsRohamad_Ali wrote: »
If a Grocery store did this you would walk in and find out you can't buy Apples anymore . You can buy a mystery bag of fruit with a chance to win apples but it may have spinach , lettuce and or mushrooms instead in the bag . You still win something even if not what you went shopping for ! Would you go grocery shopping there anymore ? Seriously ?
If I were shopping at a grocery store and wanted some apples and saw they were selling a bag of fruit that might have a special golden apple in it that I could redeem for a Harley or a Corvette, yea I might just buy a few while getting my apples. Sounds like fun.0 -
Denaia✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Here is the quote where Gina Bruno said there will be no lockboxes in eso "https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2t6g9i/please_no_locked_rng_boxes/". This was said by Matt Firor aswell, but I remember it being on the initial announcement video of tamriel unlimited, which is ofcourse not accesible anymore.8
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rhapsodious✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmeticsHm, the topic of discussion a couple of pages back brought up a really good point - the PTS.
When the PTS comes up, I sincerely hope it will have these crates available because you know someone is going to buy hundreds of them (since everything is 1 crown on the PTS) and collect that sweet, sweet data. That way we could get a more informed opinion as to how RNG-ey it is - yes, people are against it from the start and I can understand that, but if it's a 5% chance to get a limited mount instead of a .5% chance, then that's a step in the right direction.
So, here's hoping they're at least not going to be shady about that and let us approximate the odds before we spend real money.0 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Elijah_Crow wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
If a Grocery store did this you would walk in and find out you can't buy Apples anymore . You can buy a mystery bag of fruit with a chance to win apples but it may have spinach , lettuce and or mushrooms instead in the bag . You still win something even if not what you went shopping for ! Would you go grocery shopping there anymore ? Seriously ?
If I were shopping at a grocery store and wanted some apples and saw they were selling a bag of fruit that might have a special golden apple in it that I could redeem for a Harley or a Corvette, yea I might just buy a few while getting my apples. Sounds like fun.
Harley's are factory made pos . Get a real bike . Customs is where it's at . Every wannabe with a brand new pair of chaps and a shiney helmet ride those now . Corvette ? Are you experiencing mid life crisis man ?
Lol, if I were having a midlife crisis I would have said a 2017 Audi R8. I figured I would use an example more people can relate to. You seemed to relate just fine...
Just poking . All in good fun .
I've got about 20 years till I can enjoy a mid life crisis .
I really do hate factory bikes though . I can build even better for 70% less an more HP .1 -
Silverado✭✭✭No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gambleI have a feeling that many will quit the game once this is implemented and that things will gradually go down hill from there. I'm kind of pissed about this news myself. But what appalls me the most is seeing polls like these where the majority of us are against a future change being implemented by ZOS. I wish ZOS would give us a say about changes and updates before shoving them in our faces right before release. It's almost as though ZOS has something to prove by not letting us in. Things would go sooooo much smoother if they would just accept the old phrase "the customer is always right." Instead they seem adamant on pushing us out. I love this game but I can only tolerate so much. ZOS a lot of us have been with you since day one, are we not considered eso as experts as far as what we like and don't?Ps4 NA Aldmeri Dominion
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✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.rhapsodious wrote: »Hm, the topic of discussion a couple of pages back brought up a really good point - the PTS.
When the PTS comes up, I sincerely hope it will have these crates available because you know someone is going to buy hundreds of them (since everything is 1 crown on the PTS) and collect that sweet, sweet data. That way we could get a more informed opinion as to how RNG-ey it is - yes, people are against it from the start and I can understand that, but if it's a 5% chance to get a limited mount instead of a .5% chance, then that's a step in the right direction.
So, here's hoping they're at least not going to be shady about that and let us approximate the odds before we spend real money.
Nothing prevents ZOS from changing the drop rates from PTS to live, or anytime really, openly or ninja. That's one big issue I have with this in general.
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✭Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmeticsHere is the quote where Gina Bruno said there will be no lockboxes in eso "https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2t6g9i/please_no_locked_rng_boxes/". This was said by Matt Firor aswell, but I remember it being on the initial announcement video of tamriel unlimited, which is ofcourse not accesible anymore.
What? The quote says very clearly they didn't had plans at that time. Why are you trying so hard to misslead something quite obvious?When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
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rhapsodious✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmeticsanitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »rhapsodious wrote: »Hm, the topic of discussion a couple of pages back brought up a really good point - the PTS.
When the PTS comes up, I sincerely hope it will have these crates available because you know someone is going to buy hundreds of them (since everything is 1 crown on the PTS) and collect that sweet, sweet data. That way we could get a more informed opinion as to how RNG-ey it is - yes, people are against it from the start and I can understand that, but if it's a 5% chance to get a limited mount instead of a .5% chance, then that's a step in the right direction.
So, here's hoping they're at least not going to be shady about that and let us approximate the odds before we spend real money.
Nothing prevents ZOS from changing the drop rates from PTS to live, or anytime really, openly or ninja. That's one big issue I have with this in general.
True... It'd at least give an idea of the contents of the crates. But you're right, I somehow completely forgot to think of that.
I guess there'll be that one guy who buys a hundred of them on live anyway; maybe he can be the hero ESO needs and post data. Because there's always that guy.0
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