Swtor has them; honestly never had a issue with them in that game. They didn't add anything that had an actual effect on the game, it's all cosmetic... People who whine about are just pathetic silly children who demand everything be given to them for free.
But all the good stuff goes into the cartel packs, hardly anything elsewhere. And after a while the chance to get anything good is now so low the only use for them is as a means to convert real money into game cash.
While this is true you can also pretty much spend in game cash on any of these said items vs real life money in that game...so its not a huge issue.
First of all - It only contains a consumable item that you can ALREADY PURCHASE in the store. It also gives you only cosmetic items, IE nothing that would give you a advantage over another player.
First of all - It only contains a consumable item that you can ALREADY PURCHASE in the store. It also gives you only cosmetic items, IE nothing that would give you a advantage over another player.
erm nope., NOTHING about things you can already purchase in store. and I quote:
First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.
well...'consumables' pretty much covers ANYTHING and EVERYTHING in the game, except of course it was clear Armor and weapons would not be included.
So yes players worries concerning anything actual gameplay related is quite valid.. and personally I can see that happening the most valuable things in game are the things that make your character better. believe me ZOS know this as every other game publisher does concerning their own RNG boxes and their most valuable contents.
Mounts a costumes are fine, BUT they are a one time purchase item, once you have the ones you want, there's no need to spend any more cash, while necessary consumable sales NEVER dry up, players can never have enough, its a full time 100% 24/7 non stop sale item
First of all - It only contains a consumable item that you can ALREADY PURCHASE in the store. It also gives you only cosmetic items, IE nothing that would give you a advantage over another player.
erm nope., NOTHING about things you can already purchase in store. and I quote:
First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.
well...'consumables' pretty much covers ANYTHING and EVERYTHING in the game, except of course it was clear Armor and weapons would not be included.
So yes players worries concerning anything actual gameplay related is quite valid.. and personally I can see that happening the most valuable things in game are the things that make your character better. believe me ZOS know this as every other game publisher does concerning their own RNG boxes and their most valuable contents.
Mounts a costumes are fine, BUT they are a one time purchase item, once you have the ones you want, there's no need to spend any more cash, while necessary consumable sales NEVER dry up, players can never have enough, its a full time 100% 24/7 non stop sale item
First of all - It only contains a consumable item that you can ALREADY PURCHASE in the store. It also gives you only cosmetic items, IE nothing that would give you a advantage over another player.
erm nope., NOTHING about things you can already purchase in store. and I quote:
First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.
well...'consumables' pretty much covers ANYTHING and EVERYTHING in the game, except of course it was clear Armor and weapons would not be included.
So yes players worries concerning anything actual gameplay related is quite valid.. and personally I can see that happening the most valuable things in game are the things that make your character better. believe me ZOS know this as every other game publisher does concerning their own RNG boxes and their most valuable contents.
Mounts a costumes are fine, BUT they are a one time purchase item, once you have the ones you want, there's no need to spend any more cash, while necessary consumable sales NEVER dry up, players can never have enough, its a full time 100% 24/7 non stop sale item
https://youtu.be/4UcmPeXG7qQ?t=8m11s
I put a time specific link for you. He states it will contain "One consumable, things you can already purchase in the store anyway"
Taleof2Cities wrote: »
Disclaimer - This isn't a defense of ZOS adding lockboxes. This is a defense of the currently unfounded claim that ZOS said they never would.
Panda_iMunch wrote: »Divines, the worth has been worn out of this post and is now replaced with animosity. Since this system is not out nor fully explained, this 'speculation' is just serves no point. Ohhh, there selling cosmetic items, nothing new. This fear that it will educe a gambling and P2W culture is unfounded as the game has had no intention of doing so for as long as I can tell, so just chill.
Test it when it comes out in 2 weeks and see if it's worth it. If not? Make some recommendations.
Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Considering this thread has gone 38 pages in just two days, I think they should SERIOUSLY reconsider going this route! There are plenty of other ways to add income to the game without adding in a gambling 'RNG' type of lottery box and include special and unique items that aren't purchasable otherwise. As others noted, it seems like a desperate means of grabbing income, and an unnecessary means at that.
I understand some people really don't like this and while I respect their opinion, this thread has had only 594 votes and the 38 pages of comments have been many people trying to share their point of view in a very back and forth manner. The number of people commenting and voting don't make much a dent in 7 million players. Not even if we're only talking 2 million active.
I think the conversation is important however and those of us that love ESO have a responsibility to provide the feedback we feel is appropriate.
With that being said I think it's fairly obvious that lockboxes can and will be a good source of income for the company if games like SWTOR and some others any indication. If you are going to have lockboxes in a game at all, then at least they have chosen to execute it in a very smart way to negate any impact on game play.
LMAO are you seriously trying to take that comment at E3 at face value and use it in your argument? How many of those 7 million accounts are active? How many are bots? How many are accounts that belong to people now banned? How many of them are sockpuppet accounts?
Anyone that was watching that announcement knew they werent talking about 7 million active individual players. Far from it.
Even if it were just 1 million, 594 votes is still a small fraction.
Well to be honest with you all it is samething SWTOR have today and i dont see any problem with it but i just hope that still will sell mount, customs, pet and cosmetics as the do today as well.
Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Guys, lets get real here. Its a game. This whole thing is so blown out of proportion that its getting to the point of silliness. Comparing them to slavers, drug lords, enablers of gambling addicts etc is just plain silly. ZOS has to make some cash and this is a GREAT way to do it without making it P2W or ruining the economy as other games have done when instituting theirs.
Please tell me why this is a great way of doing it I'm very curious . Why is it great for me to buy loot box with chances of item I may want from RNG instead of purchasing said item direct from crown store ? Why is this GREAT idea please ?
First of all - It only contains a consumable item that you can ALREADY PURCHASE in the store. It also gives you only cosmetic items, IE nothing that would give you a advantage over another player.
Second - Those items are NOT tradeable or sellable to others - that would ruin the economy as it has in other games.
Third - You can exchange dupes for gems to purchase the things you DO want to have.
Finally - the game has another source of income that has proven to work in other games, that will allow it to stay alive for a long time to come.
The only thing the boxes do, is make you look fantastic while swinging a sword, or running around on your fancy rare mount.
Esquire1980g_ESO wrote: »Well to be honest with you all it is samething SWTOR have today and i dont see any problem with it but i just hope that still will sell mount, customs, pet and cosmetics as the do today as well.
That's the problem, if we wanted to play TOR, we'd be over there.
I'm positive that part of the draw to ESO is due to the fact that ZOS hasn't had these types of "deals". At least it was for me. And if they do complete their plan, that draw ends. And if I have to play a game with lockboxes, I believe I'd hit one with lightsabers as I played Galaxies for so long.
Would this be legally regarded as gambling in some countries?
I know that the Aussie government were looking into restricting gambling in gaming media.
Would this be legally regarded as gambling in some countries?
I know that the Aussie government were looking into restricting gambling in gaming media.
Esquire1980g_ESO wrote: »Speaking of CSGO, I found a rather interesting article, it brings up also some of @Lysette and @Cazzy points that they have made in this thread also.
http://wccftech.com/problem-underage-gambling-csgo-rise/
Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
If a Grocery store did this you would walk in and find out you can't buy Apples anymore . You can buy a mystery bag of fruit with a chance to win apples but it may have spinach , lettuce and or mushrooms instead in the bag . You still win something even if not what you went shopping for ! Would you go grocery shopping there anymore ? Seriously ?
Elijah_Crow wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Elijah_Crow wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
If a Grocery store did this you would walk in and find out you can't buy Apples anymore . You can buy a mystery bag of fruit with a chance to win apples but it may have spinach , lettuce and or mushrooms instead in the bag . You still win something even if not what you went shopping for ! Would you go grocery shopping there anymore ? Seriously ?
If I were shopping at a grocery store and wanted some apples and saw they were selling a bag of fruit that might have a special golden apple in it that I could redeem for a Harley or a Corvette, yea I might just buy a few while getting my apples. Sounds like fun.
Harley's are factory made pos . Get a real bike . Customs is where it's at . Every wannabe with a brand new pair of chaps and a shiney helmet ride those now . Corvette ? Are you experiencing mid life crisis man ?
Lol, if I were having a midlife crisis I would have said a 2017 Audi R8. I figured I would use an example more people can relate to. You seemed to relate just fine...
rhapsodious wrote: »Hm, the topic of discussion a couple of pages back brought up a really good point - the PTS.
When the PTS comes up, I sincerely hope it will have these crates available because you know someone is going to buy hundreds of them (since everything is 1 crown on the PTS) and collect that sweet, sweet data. That way we could get a more informed opinion as to how RNG-ey it is - yes, people are against it from the start and I can understand that, but if it's a 5% chance to get a limited mount instead of a .5% chance, then that's a step in the right direction.
So, here's hoping they're at least not going to be shady about that and let us approximate the odds before we spend real money.
Here is the quote where Gina Bruno said there will be no lockboxes in eso "https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2t6g9i/please_no_locked_rng_boxes/". This was said by Matt Firor aswell, but I remember it being on the initial announcement video of tamriel unlimited, which is ofcourse not accesible anymore.
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »rhapsodious wrote: »Hm, the topic of discussion a couple of pages back brought up a really good point - the PTS.
When the PTS comes up, I sincerely hope it will have these crates available because you know someone is going to buy hundreds of them (since everything is 1 crown on the PTS) and collect that sweet, sweet data. That way we could get a more informed opinion as to how RNG-ey it is - yes, people are against it from the start and I can understand that, but if it's a 5% chance to get a limited mount instead of a .5% chance, then that's a step in the right direction.
So, here's hoping they're at least not going to be shady about that and let us approximate the odds before we spend real money.
Nothing prevents ZOS from changing the drop rates from PTS to live, or anytime really, openly or ninja. That's one big issue I have with this in general.