What do you think of Crown Store Random boxes/Lottery box?

Lord_Eomer · August 2016

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Prople complaining not add these, should just simply not buy these.

Its not going to affecting any one DPS, Healing or Toughness..

Saturn · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

If there's one thing I don't like about ESO, it's the RNG. RNG boxes that you pay for sounds like a recipe for disappointment, sadness and many salty tears.

Instead of making it a random chance to get old things that are no longer being sold, why don't they just run them in a bi-weekly rotation or something. It'd give players a reason to check the crown store every now and then if they knew there was a possibility that the thing they wanted to buy would return. I have quite a few costumes I'd like to buy since the introduction of the costume dying, but unfortunately a lot of them are no longer in the store, so I'd personally prefer a system like this over a RNG madness.

AzraelKrieg · August 2016

starkerealm wrote: »

@AzraelKrieg you might want to check Abielle's video link, which I also shared. It's Matt Firor talking about special mounts being Lockbox/GrabBag/Luckybag/whateverbag exclusives.

I did check that out but even then, I'd prefer to see it in writing. No offense to Matt Firor but he's not exactly the clearest speaker and while I have no trouble understanding him, footage from what I'm assuming is a phone camera isn't always the best. Pretty much, I just want it set in writing that it will only be cosmetic stuff.

Cazzy · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Prople complaining not add these, should just simply not buy these.

Its not going to affecting any one DPS, Healing or Toughness..

I don't play for DPS/healing/toughness

I play for the RPG, the RP, the QoL, the exploration...

jedtb16_ESO · August 2016

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

haven't voted because there isn't a 'if zos want to add this as an additional revenue stream and people want to buy them i'm fine with that' option.

not something i would bother with...

@jedtb16_ESO
I think you're missing the issue.

Regardless of whether you want to buy or not there will be exclusive brand new items that can only be obtained via buying a special loot crate.

and as i said i'm fine with that.... since the likelihood of it being anything that would give material advantage in game is remote it really doesn't matter. if people want to spend their money chasing cosmetic items let them.

It's not just purely cosmetic tho.

Watch the video

i watched the video.... still wondering what the fuss is about. special mounts? i'm sure they will give a real advantage in trials.

like the idea of being able to solo craglorn though.

Fruitmass · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Aw jeez. I was really hoping this was never going to be a thing. I've seen what happens when games introduce RNG goody boxes and I can tell you it's neither fun or rewarding.

These accursed things are, in every case, just a huge cash vacuum designed to target the desperate and foolish who think they can beat the odds. It is a predatory sales gimmick and should not be encouraged.

FloppyTouch · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

They better not have my monkey pet in that! I think this is a horrible ideal. I hate when mmos add in gambling with our real money.

Delpi · August 2016

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

So.... Now we know the real reason of removing things from a virtual store....

Danikat · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I've never seen an RNG box that I liked and I'm concerned that if they introduce this as a way of rereleasing old mounts, costumes etc. it will become the only way they come back and then anyone who missed out the first time around will have no option other than to keep buying boxes and hope they happen to get the item they want.

Also to the people saying if it doesn't include items you've already got that will increase your chances I think you're in for disappointment.

If it works like every other RNG box I know of it will include a whole bunch of crown store consumables. So the vast majority of the time you'll open the box and get a Crown Meal or Drink or maybe an XP scroll. If you're "lucky" you'll get a random riding lesson or bag space upgrade. If you've got an item and it's therefore eliminated from what's available it will only increase your chance of getting consumables, not the other rare items.

Dagoth_Rac · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

This would be unacceptable in any other line of business. Can you imagine going to Target and they were selling $25 mystery boxes that have a $1 pair of socks in them 99.9% of the time? There would be a huge uproar and it would be a PR disaster and rightly so.

Lord_Eomer · August 2016

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

This would be unacceptable in any other line of business. Can you imagine going to Target and they were selling $25 mystery boxes that have a $1 pair of socks in them 99.9% of the time? There would be a huge uproar and it would be a PR disaster and rightly so.

Simply do not buy, why coomplain?

Troneon · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

This is what some thought of the Star Trek Online casino style lock box's....they started off cosmetic and went full pay 2 win with better stats eventually...

Also all the good armors, ships, effects and styles started to end up only in the lock box's or store, never actually earned in game....less and less actual in game rewards rewards....

It also affected the way the game was played and game design process to push more players towards using the lock box's...

AlienSlof · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

No. No. NO. NO!

Not ever!

Xsorus · August 2016

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Swtor has them; honestly never had a issue with them in that game. They didn't add anything that had an actual effect on the game, it's all cosmetic... People who whine about are just pathetic silly children who demand everything be given to them for free.

anitajoneb17_ESO · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

This would be unacceptable in any other line of business. Can you imagine going to Target and they were selling $25 mystery boxes that have a $1 pair of socks in them 99.9% of the time? There would be a huge uproar and it would be a PR disaster and rightly so.

Well, you have such businesses everywhere. It's called lottery. You have slot machines too.
People buy hope. It's their right.

I don't particularly respect companies who run those businesses but ultimately it's the customers' responsibility to buy or not buy these products, and who am I to judge someone who buys hopes, thrills, whatever ?

Mojmir · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

We already have a lottery,after every update we get to see what mysterious thing they broke.

AlienSlof · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I'm utterly disgusted and disappointed in Zeni. I won't be buying any.

SantieClaws · August 2016

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

This one she wonders if Schrödinger's khajitt may be found in one of these boxes?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Waseem · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Zenimax do not listen to community suggestions anyway, so this forum post is useless.

your vote is the vote you make with your crowns, you either buy mystery boxes -1 or 1000 are the same- (vote of yes/support)
or you never buy any mystery box (vote against)

L2Pissue · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

LOL @ those people who voted "yes"
the upcoming loot boxes do not have "only cosmetics" XD
and if loot boxes do not get added. there will be exclusive sales for old crown stores items (alternative way)

Lieblingsjunge · August 2016

Nuh huh. I've got way too much experience with lottery boxes from Forsaken World, and here's what I've realised:
- Themed boxes, e.g. "Pandora's Box": You can find a rare mount and some other items. The drop rate for rare mounts are around 0,67%.
- It's addictive to some people, not me though, I always managed to control myself!
- It's a great way for the devs to earn money, as people will gamble
- It's also causing the Player Base to get annoyed, since most of the games goes over the top with it. Like "Oh, let's implement new boxes every week instead of maintenance!"
- All in all, I don't mind it. As long as it's not gonna be the main focus from the devs, as it brings in a lot of moneyZ.

Ghanima_Atreides · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

As someone who has played SWTOR and has seen how almost every item worth having comes from a lockbox, then read accounts from people who spent literally hundreds of $$$ in the hope of getting that cool super-rare item and never did, I profoundly dislike this move.

At first, it'll be "cosmetic items" and some exclusive mounts. Later it'll be costumes, motifs, service tokens and other attractive items we won't be able to get anywhere else, mark my words. The purpose of these loot boxes is to get people to gamble as much money as possible on them, which inevitably means cutting the supply from other sources.

Doctordarkspawn · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

It is the gateway to Pay to Win.

It may not be here now, but showing success to these will show they can get away with it, and we only lose if they get that message.

Kemono · August 2016

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

puffytheslayer wrote: »

although it really depends how its implemented;

if they introduce a mount box, a costume box, a pet box & an accessory box (each box priced around what those items usually cost) thats fine, imho

but assuming mystery boxes will be about 2,500 (typical price of a mount) for a box in the hope of getting the ice horse lands me with a 200 crown hat that i could of bought, didnt buy cause i didnt like it & have no regrets about missing out on will be disheartening to say the least!

from my MMO experience, and after watching this video like 10+ times (jump to 7:50)

https://youtu.be/4UcmPeXG7qQ?t=474

loot boxes are going to work like that:
cost 400 crowns << really low\ cost means really BAD chances to get anything of worth

Drops from boxes = Something like
Guaranteed: 1 consumable
+
nothing (50% chance)
or
1 item drop of:
green quality(30%) random unpopular cosmetics and pets (like expect to get a TON of mudcabs from lootboxes)
blue quality (15% chance)random popular cosmetics and pets an even some unpopular mounts (all those horses recolors ;D)
purple quality (5% chance): dro mathra senche mount, other rare mounts, breton hero armor ;D
gold quality (1% chance): super rare boxes exclusive mounts and other stuff

adriant1978 · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

As someone who has played SWTOR and has seen how almost every item worth having comes from a lockbox, then read accounts from people who spent literally hundreds of $$$ in the hope of getting that cool super-rare item

Sadly this is probably exactly what Zeni is counting on. They aren't interested in you or I who buy a small Crown pack every month or two to get a new pet or costume; they want to hook the whales who will spend half their disposable income grinding RNG to get that one item they simply must have.

CirithValaria · August 2016

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

There should be a random box that could drop from anywhere and from anyone (max 1 box per day). Box would have very unique and rare cosmetic stuff, also new and old crown store items and maybe some random in-game stuff..Possibly also housing stuff.
When the box drops you would have to open it with keys which you buy from crown store OR if you are a subscriber you can open them for free (always or certain amount of times with keys that would come in addition of crowns when you sub.)
..or something like that

L2Pissue · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

thank you Zenimax. now i can pay 4000 crowns to get the 200 crown tri-restoration potion i always dreamed of using

Leandor · August 2016

ITT: how to turn the first rumors of next patch into a P2W discussion.

SMH....

Ghettokid · August 2016

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

MaddPowered wrote: »

Anything for me to have a chance at that snow bear mount!

Same reason. My ps4 was broken when polar bear was in crown store. It was only crown store item I ever wanted.

Cazzy · August 2016

No, don't ever add these into the game.

adriant1978 wrote: »

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

As someone who has played SWTOR and has seen how almost every item worth having comes from a lockbox, then read accounts from people who spent literally hundreds of $$$ in the hope of getting that cool super-rare item

Sadly this is probably exactly what Zeni is counting on. They aren't interested in you or I who buy a small Crown pack every month or two to get a new pet or costume; they want to hook the whales who will spend half their disposable income grinding RNG to get that one item they simply must have.

Otherwise known as gambling addicts