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What do you think of Crown Store Random boxes/Lottery box?
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gambleThis one will just do without them, just as I did in other MMO's. I'm not partaking of their silly gambling. Nope.
Nice as the atronach mounts are, I can live without. They work out to be ridiculous prices. I'll stick with just buying items directly as and when I see one offered that I want.
I'm fine without the Atronach mounts, I don't like flashy stuff anyway.
What I am worried about is that pretty much everything new on the PTS seems to be exclusive to the Crown Crates, meaning they won't be sold directly. Even things that are just recolors and that don't go with the theme of the crates, like the Black Mane Lion.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.3 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.I'm quite disappointed. It's pretty unclear what is exclusive, but if it's what it seems like... that's a LOT of exclusives. Like.. a LOT. I thought they meant one or 2 rare mounts per season... not an entire set of mounts PLUS a bunch of other stuff not even related to that season.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord3 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gambleI'm quite disappointed. It's pretty unclear what is exclusive, but if it's what it seems like... that's a LOT of exclusives. Like.. a LOT. I thought they meant one or 2 rare mounts per season... not an entire set of mounts PLUS a bunch of other stuff not even related to that season.
You and me both, @MissBizz .
All I wanted right now is for Gina or Rich to burst in and say "Oh no guys, there was a mistake! Only the Atronach mounts are exclusive! Everything else is labelled wrong!".Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.2 -
clayandaudrey_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Like I have been saying from the beginning, this is an exact copy of the cartel market in swtor and it sucks.Edited by clayandaudrey_ESO on September 20, 2016 9:44PM6 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.I'm quite disappointed. It's pretty unclear what is exclusive, but if it's what it seems like... that's a LOT of exclusives. Like.. a LOT. I thought they meant one or 2 rare mounts per season... not an entire set of mounts PLUS a bunch of other stuff not even related to that season.
You and me both, @MissBizz .
All I wanted right now is for Gina or Rich to burst in and say "Oh no guys, there was a mistake! Only the Atronach mounts are exclusive! Everything else is labelled wrong!".
I thought I was crazy because that was also my thoughts. My jaw just dropped watching Alcast's video (since that video went up before I got a chance at lunch to see myself).
So many style items, black mane, omg that purple pig thing.
Say it ain't so. Please say it ain't so. (I'm still hoping one of them burst out and say that)
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Some pet, hairstyle, or mount can EASILY mean more to me than some BiS weapon.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord4 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmeticsjedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »You need 40000 crowns to buy one atronach mount
This is incorrect. 40000 crowns does not guarantee an atronach mount. You may never get one, no matter how much you spend. You certainly are unlikely to get the one you want, especially if the one you want is "all of them". It's a shame, so many people would love to buy these outright for a set price, they're losing all that potential revenue just for the risk that they might get more from people gambling.
and you may get one with 1 purchase of 400 crowns...
Sure, but how many players are going to get that? Pointing out that you could get really lucky is useless because that's not something you can make an informed decision on. You've been in this thread for weeks, you should by know understand that there's an important difference between a single, cherry-picked player experience, the average experience, and the worst-case-scenario experience. When some aspect of the game has a worst-case-scenario experience of "never getting what you are investing time/money/etc into", there is something fundamentally wrong with the system. There is something fundamentally exploitative about it. People should get goods and services that they spend money on, so unless you don't care about the gambling box-exclusive items and are just spending money for the thrill of gambling, then you are not having a fair customer experience. That is the intrinsic problem with these gambling boxes.
yes, yes and pointing out that they may get nothing is just as redundant. the cherry picking goes both ways you know?
what staggers me about this thread is the idea, expressed with varying degrees of hysteria, is the notion that the people who are not against it are stupid and the people who are against it are, somehow, smart.
No, that's the point you are missing. It is not pointless to point out the worst-case scenario. This is because the worst-case scenario is a nonobvious mathematical consequence of the system. Many people literally do not know that there is a chance you'll never get anything, whereas the chance that you'll get something on the first try is not only apparent, but the main selling feature.
And I would never imply that people are stupid just because they support gambling. I would imply that they lack the technical know-how to see why it's bad, or I would imply that they lack any kind of a moral compass, or I would imply that they don't understand economic principles related to risk, price-setting, etc. If you aren't upset about the gambling boxes, you are necessarily in one of those three groups.
nonsense.
my point was that highlighting any of the possible scenarios is equally redundant. you can cherry pick in both directions.
and it is not about supporting gambling.
it is about not thinking that you can decide what other people do..1 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmeticsAs sad as this is, at least there is a ray of light. Apparently, ZOS can make something of a usable feature in the game that actually works and does not suffer from lag. After 2 1/2 years, I did not think they knew how!
I see they renamed "Pets" to "Non-Combat Pets". Hopefully, the "Combat Pets" are just reskins of the two Sorcerer pets.
I wonder if that ray of light is a train heading for me...Edited by Elsonso on September 20, 2016 9:57PM3 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamblelordrichter wrote: »As sad as this is, at least there is a ray of light. Apparently, ZOS can make something of a usable feature in the game that actually works and does not suffer from lag. After 2 1/2 years, I did not think they knew how!
I see they renamed "Pets" to "Non-Combat Pets". Hopefully, the "Combat Pets" are just reskins of the two Sorcerer pets.
I wonder if that ray of light is a train heading for me...
I would buy reskins of the Sorcerer pets. Through direct purchase, of course.
I wonder if they will be Crown Crate exclusives too...Edited by Abeille on September 20, 2016 10:02PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.1 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »You need 40000 crowns to buy one atronach mount
This is incorrect. 40000 crowns does not guarantee an atronach mount. You may never get one, no matter how much you spend. You certainly are unlikely to get the one you want, especially if the one you want is "all of them". It's a shame, so many people would love to buy these outright for a set price, they're losing all that potential revenue just for the risk that they might get more from people gambling.
and you may get one with 1 purchase of 400 crowns...
Sure, but how many players are going to get that? Pointing out that you could get really lucky is useless because that's not something you can make an informed decision on. You've been in this thread for weeks, you should by know understand that there's an important difference between a single, cherry-picked player experience, the average experience, and the worst-case-scenario experience. When some aspect of the game has a worst-case-scenario experience of "never getting what you are investing time/money/etc into", there is something fundamentally wrong with the system. There is something fundamentally exploitative about it. People should get goods and services that they spend money on, so unless you don't care about the gambling box-exclusive items and are just spending money for the thrill of gambling, then you are not having a fair customer experience. That is the intrinsic problem with these gambling boxes.
yes, yes and pointing out that they may get nothing is just as redundant. the cherry picking goes both ways you know?
what staggers me about this thread is the idea, expressed with varying degrees of hysteria, is the notion that the people who are not against it are stupid and the people who are against it are, somehow, smart.
No, that's the point you are missing. It is not pointless to point out the worst-case scenario. This is because the worst-case scenario is a nonobvious mathematical consequence of the system. Many people literally do not know that there is a chance you'll never get anything, whereas the chance that you'll get something on the first try is not only apparent, but the main selling feature.
And I would never imply that people are stupid just because they support gambling. I would imply that they lack the technical know-how to see why it's bad, or I would imply that they lack any kind of a moral compass, or I would imply that they don't understand economic principles related to risk, price-setting, etc. If you aren't upset about the gambling boxes, you are necessarily in one of those three groups.
nonsense.
my point was that highlighting any of the possible scenarios is equally redundant. you can cherry pick in both directions.
and it is not about supporting gambling.
it is about not thinking that you can decide what other people do..
This is what I'm talking about, there is a qualitative difference between the two and your argument is "nuh uh". I'll try to explain it better. If people don't know that there is a chance you'll never get an item, then telling them adds value. If people don't know that you can get the item they want on the first try, then telling them adds value. Absolutely everyone already knows that they might get the item they want on the first try, which is why I said your original statement was useless. Conversely, many people literally don't know the mathematics and don't understand that they might not ever get the thing they want. That is why pointing out one thing is helpful and the other is useless.
Further, you cannot make an informed decision about risk based on the best-case scenario where you succeed immediately. That's not how the math works. You need to know that there is a risk of never getting something, or what the maximum possible purchase is before you are guaranteed to get something. All of those are mathematically distinct scenarios. If you do not understand why, then ask, but just denying the facts is useless.
And nobody here is telling people what they can and can't do with their money. We're advocating against the implementation of a feature we don't want. That's a normal part of the feedback process. There is nothing wrong with what we are doing by saying that we don't want this system in place.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
Grand High Illustrious Mid-Tier PvP/PvE Bussmunster7 -
Wolfkeks✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Okay, I looove the new items, the storm mounts especially...
But What The Heck?
I can get those lovely mounts via crown crate.... maybe I'm lucky, maybe not....
But definitely not buying those...
Maybe getting a new cool mount is awesome, but I can get potions instead...and on PTS I only got potions...and a hat... bought 13 boxed and I got a hat....
Nope, I know my luck, not gonna do this
Hope they're coming to the crown store eventually...
EU PC 2000+ CP professional mudballer and pie thrower"Sheggorath, you are the Skooma Cat, for what is crazier than a cat on skooma?" - FadomaiFormer Emperor, Grand Overlord, vAA hm, vHelRa hm, vSO hm, vMoL hm, vHoF hm, vAS+2, vCR+3, vSS hm, vKA, vRG, Flawless Conquerer, Spirit Slayer4 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.AWESOME GUYS! SUPER EXCITED!
So you know how the experience scrolls lasted longer than Psijiic and we were like "UGH" but it was kinda okay because you get 4 psijiics from one set of ingredients... so it all equaled out the same?
Welp, better hope we get better psijiic's soon.
Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord2 -
Slurg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gambleAWESOME GUYS! SUPER EXCITED!
So you know how the experience scrolls lasted longer than Psijiic and we were like "UGH" but it was kinda okay because you get 4 psijiics from one set of ingredients... so it all equaled out the same?
Welp, better hope we get better psijiic's soon.
I gotta say, I figured at some point they'd make the crown purchased items better quality than the crafted to give people more incentive to buy the crates. But right out of the starting gate? Just wow.
Hoping for some clarification on this and also the non-atronach items that appear to be going straight to the crates before being available for regular purchase. But I'm not feeling real optimistic about it.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.6 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gambleMy Red Pit Wolf.
I'm so sad right now.
My Ice Wolf will probably be there too eventually, so... Hugs? Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.2 -
VerboseQuips✭✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Ok, I just discovered the Official RNG Boxes discussion thread and watched the videos.
I know this is a useless post, but I just wanted to say that I am in such a state of bitter disappointment, acidic disgust, painful despair and burning anger that I will just go to bed and wait for tomorrow to write a better, more structured, more argumented comment, which I am uncapable of right now.
'Night forum people.
Ugh.My characters:Main and crafter: A Breton magicka templar named Erwann Sorril
Alt 1: A Bosmer sorcerer named Tuuneleg
Alt 2: An Imperial dragonknight named Gaius Tullius Hastifer
Alt 3: An Argonian vampire/nightblade named Observe-le-Xanmeer
Alt 4: A Nord werewolf/dragonknight named Sigurd Hurlevent
Alt 5: A Breton sorcerer named Gilian Sorril (he's Erwann's younger brother)
Alt 6: A Khajiit nightblade named Jolan-dar
Alt 7: A Nord warden named Sigurmar Hurlevent (he's Sigurd's younger brother)
Alt 8: An Altmer templar named Oioriel
Alt 9: An Argonian stamina Warden named Danse-avec-les-Rainettes
Alt 10: A Redguard templar named Neemokh af-Corelanya
Alt 11: A Nord stamina sorcerer named Olga Écoute-Vent
Alt 12: A Breton magicka Warden named Ian Sorril
Alt 13: A Dunmer magicka necromancer named Ilmoran Dren
Alt 14: An Orc stamina necromancer named Norgol gro-Borziel
Alt 15: A Nord magicka necromancer named Thorgen Givresang
Alt 16: An Imperial magicka dragonknight named Publius Valeirus Hastifer (Just call him "Valerio" - he's Gaius younger troublemaker of a brother)
Main in NA (For collaborative events): A Breton magicka nightblade named Titouan Sorril (long-lost brother of Erwann and Gilian)7 -
rhapsodious✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmeticsMy Red Pit Wolf. I'm so sad right now.
You and me both. And I would have bought it with crowns in a heartbeat. At this point I don't really care about the atronach mounts, I just want the non-flashy mounts and pets to be available for direct purchase first (I mean, preferably always... but I'm grasping at straws here).
Overall I'm disappointed that they can put this much pizzazz into a feature so few of their userbase wanted, but so many other QOL increases remain in the back, gathering dust. I can't wait until housing is laid out if this is the direction marketing is taking.
I want to change my answer since it was from a while ago when I thought there'd just be super flashy stuff as exclusives, but if they're going this route then I don't want any part of it.Edited by rhapsodious on September 21, 2016 12:16AM6 -
JimT722✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, don't ever add these into the game.rhapsodious wrote: »My Red Pit Wolf. I'm so sad right now.
You and me both. And I would have bought it with crowns in a heartbeat. At this point I don't really care about the atronach mounts, I just want the non-flashy mounts and pets to be available for direct purchase first (I mean, preferably always... but I'm grasping at straws here).
Overall I'm disappointed that they can put this much pizzazz into a feature so few of their userbase wanted, but so many other QOL increases remain in the back, gathering dust. I can't wait until housing is laid out if this is the direction marketing is taking.
I want to change my answer since it was from a while ago when I thought there'd just be super flashy stuff as exclusives, but if they're going this route then I don't want any part of it.
I though they would have the atronach mounts to begin with and it would take a while to fall this far. ZOS appears to have gone crazy with it. They are including some of everything. Some of it is the stuff I had been waiting for. It's sad where this game is going as I thought the last dlc was great. Now I can't think about anything else but this foul system in the game even though it's not here yet.
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Slurg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gambleI tried it on PTS and left feedback on the official thread. 13 crates and not one single thing I would use. Not even close to enough crown gems for the red wolf I've been waiting forever for. If it was real money I would've been out $40 without a single thing to show for it. I won't gamble for the things I want to buy in the live game.
I'm still having fun in ESO overall but little things like this will gradually chip away at my enjoyment.
Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.2 -
JimT722✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, don't ever add these into the game.I tried it on PTS and left feedback on the official thread. 13 crates and not one single thing I would use. Not even close to enough crown gems for the red wolf I've been waiting forever for. If it was real money I would've been out $40 without a single thing to show for it. I won't gamble for the things I want to buy in the live game.
I'm still having fun in ESO overall but little things like this will gradually chip away at my enjoyment.
They could sell the red wolf for $40 and you would likely buy it. How much is it going to cost now? The idea is you keep dumping money into crates until you get it. This system I've seen before and it is a giant chip out of my enjoyment.
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WhiteCoatSyndrome✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.AWESOME GUYS! SUPER EXCITED!
So you know how the experience scrolls lasted longer than Psijiic and we were like "UGH" but it was kinda okay because you get 4 psijiics from one set of ingredients... so it all equaled out the same?
Welp, better hope we get better psijiic's soon.
I just have to say...yuck.
#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
A useful explanation for how RNG works
How to turn off the sustainability features (screen dimming, fps cap) on PC4 -
TheValkyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, don't ever add these into the game.ZOS has lost their damn minds. This is shameful f2p behavior but even dying f2p games don't pull this garbage. It amazes me how a company is willing to substitute their loyal player base for a cash shop. Sub out 15 loyal players spending the same amount as one whale can't be beneficial to your business. It doesn't make sense at all and it's not a smart decision.
Edited by TheValkyn on September 21, 2016 2:11AM6 -
Andarne✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.Tried them out on the PTS earlier today.
Bought some crates at 400 Crowns each. Received a ballgown and loads of consumables that I'd never use.
This system is horrendous. I am really dissapointed with ZOS for bringing this in.5 -
Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmeticsSeeing the video has confirmed my fears. Theyre going to focus everything they have on that gamble box. And whats with the Elder Scrolls Legends cards? Is Bethesda really having that hard of a time getting people interested that Zenimax is pandering to us with it?Edited by Korah_Eaglecry on September 21, 2016 2:24AMPenniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax3 -
JimT722✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, don't ever add these into the game.ZOS has lost their damn minds. This is shameful f2p behavior but even dying f2p games don't pull this garbage. It amazes me how a company is willing to substitute their loyal player base for a cash shop. Sub out 15 loyal players spending the same amount as one whale can't be beneficial to your business. It doesn't make sense at all and it's not a smart decision.
Actually this is typical, maybe even worse in f2p games dying or not. Is this decision smart? From a financial one it might be. For the community it definitely isn't. I have loved playing this game from launch. I never once considered leaving it. Now I can't even bring myself to log in with this on my mind.
I can't imagine this game is currently dying. They may increase their profits but at the same time they are going to lose a lot of their loyal players. They better hope One Tamriel brings in the massive amounts of new players because I have a feeling a large portion of the current community is sick of this kind of crap in games.8 -
GhostwalkerLD✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.GhostwalkerLD wrote: »
Trying to sugarcoat the atrocious new system that most MMO players despise by using a beloved character?
It's weird because he just sounds incredibly skeevy. When he was stealing other peoples' furniture and killing spriggans he was funny. When he's swindling me with a gambling game it's just gross.
@Recremen his very first message to you implies he was taken advantage of by some crooked gambling dealers. UGH.This one is forwarding crafting materials to you. Pacrooti looks forward to a long and rewarding relationship with his honored friend, especially since the crooked dealers at the gambling caravan tricked him out of his hard-earned gold. Pacrooti will keep trying until he wins it back. That will teach them.
So it's pretty terrible it's him they chose to do this.
Exactly!!!!! Ughhhhhhhhh....PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!1 -
GhostwalkerLD✭✭✭✭No, don't ever add these into the game.AWESOME GUYS! SUPER EXCITED!
So you know how the experience scrolls lasted longer than Psijiic and we were like "UGH" but it was kinda okay because you get 4 psijiics from one set of ingredients... so it all equaled out the same?
Welp, better hope we get better psijiic's soon.
Well... that took no time at all. *sigh* Wonder what else is incoming..PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!1 -
flburnsSoul ShrivenNo, don't ever add these into the game.lordrichter wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Thanks for your thoughts on the upcoming Crown Crates, everyone. Just want to clarify a few points -
First, Crown Crates will be available later this year, and will only include cosmetic or convenience items. You'll find things like potions and other consumables, pets, costumes, and - yes - sometimes even mounts. This will give you a chance to try and obtain previous limited time offers, or even some very unique items as Matt mentioned. It will not include things like armor or weapons.
In the event you get an item that you already own, you can exchange it for a currency called Crown Gems which will allow you to buy a different item of your choice.
Why go to all the trouble to make a new Currency for exchanges and returns like this?
So they can hose you over on the exchange rate. Here's how its going to work (and does in games that let you 'trade in' for currency). You open a box and get a mount that sold for 1700 coins in the store that you already have. No problem! your friends at ZOS will give you gems to buy another you do not already have! But here's the catch, NOT ENOUGH gems to buy another mount that also sold for 1700 coins when it was in the store. Oh no, you will have to keep buying boxes and trading in dupes (assuming you get anything at all decent vs a low drop rate and assuming its a dupe not just one of their myriad of ugly recolored horses) until you build up enough gems to afford the mount to replace your first dupe. Sorry about all those other dupes you had to grind out to get enough coins to replace the first dupe.
ZOS_GinaBruno was TECHNICALLY truthful when she said you could trade it for gems, but dishonest in leaving out the part about it not being a 1:1 trade. They should randomize again if you hit a dupe, but they went for the customer-abusive keep you on the hook via special currency route that almost all F2P games inherited from Korean Grinders.7 -
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✭No, don't ever add these into the game.I just spent some time with it on the PTS. This has to be the worst gambling system in an MMO to date. The Cat Man even taunts you while you throw away your money.
I can't believe they tabled spell crafting for garbage like this. I think I'm beginning to hate this game and I dealt with SWTOR without hating it.13
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