What do you think of Crown Store Random boxes/Lottery box?

MissBizz

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Malamar1229 wrote: »

I like the Breton Hero costumer. I am new so this gives me an opportunity to acquire it.

@Malamar1229 You also will have to wait until they actually include that costume in the crate. Not ALL previous items will be in the crates, just a few.

TheValkyn

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Malamar1229 wrote: »

I like the Breton Hero costumer. I am new so this gives me an opportunity to acquire it.

The chances to get a 2k crown costume in a crate will be ultra slim. You'd be a fool to gamble with that goal.

FireCowCommando

No, don't ever add these into the game.

With One Tamriel ZoS is bringing the community together.

I am seeing that end game PvE community who enjoys trials is up in arms over the changes to BoE/BoP along with an increase in the resistances to trash mobs, making it take longer.

The community that enjoys the fluff and roleplay offered through the crown store is enraged over crown crates, and how the housing system will soon be dealt with.

And the PvP community... well they have been upset for years, for many reasons.

Aww your really bringing us all together!

We will now all suffer

Acrolas

So the team is polarized over *** weapon dyes, but everybody went joyously along with this ***? Had a bunch of fun designing and programming this fairly elaborate system?

*** 'em. *** 'em *** 'em *** 'em. That speaks volumes about their character and integrity, and when ZOS dumps all their *** to the curb when it's done with them and moves on, I will have absolutely no remorse for them.

Like all worldly things, you will in time wear, and be used up.

MissBizz

No, don't ever add these into the game.

FireCowCommando wrote: »

With One Tamriel ZoS is bringing the community together.

I am seeing that end game PvE community who enjoys trials is up in arms over the changes to BoE/BoP along with an increase in the resistances to trash mobs, making it take longer.

The community that enjoys the fluff and roleplay offered through the crown store is enraged over crown crates, and how the housing system will soon be dealt with.

And the PvP community... well they have been upset for years, for many reasons.

Aww your really bringing us all together!

We will now all suffer

Literally laughed out loud. You're kinda right. Lol

nimander99

No, don't ever add these into the game.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's even worse than I thought it would be... And I thought it was going to be bad. 400 Gems, 400 Gems for the most unique cosmetics and you only get 5 gems per repeat. We are talking thousands and thousands of dollars.

Stick a fork in this game, cause ZOS just told us to eff off.

nimander99

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Dear Zenimax Online Studios,

You can save this game, I know you want to save this game. We all love this game and want it to be around and successful for years to come.

Below is a very secret trick on how you can prevent 78.4% of the paying player base from quitting this game...

Cancel the Gambling Boxes, no one wants them... No one. Just scrap the entire system. That and only that will save this game.

Talek

No I dislike the random crown store boxes, to much of a gamble

Wow i just realized that with housing coming, the best furnitures etc. will also be probably paywalled behind crates. Seriously if that's the case i may reconsider quitting this game 2nd time. I wonder why ZoS is that greedy, they turned pretty average game into one of the best mmos out there in last 2 years, they probably make like 5 times more profit since console launch that before when pc played 1 year of beta. They turned community to the point that ppl are okay to spend 4k crowns on reskin + few photoshop sparkles on the mount and now they offer even better deal - hey spend 20k crowns so maybe you will get one of this new shiny mounts, not even the one you want (like for me bears have the most f***ed up animations and i will never use bear mount in this game so if i get storm bear i'm *** cuz i can't change it for the other storm mount for the same price) but a random one! - talk about value here. In the mean time we will also spam your inventory with 500 useless consumables because you definitely need them...

SlayerTheDragon

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

I never worried too much about this... until I looked at it on the PTS.

It makes our game feel really low class.

This is a turning point.

Rosveen

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Malamar1229 wrote: »

I like the Breton Hero costumer. I am new so this gives me an opportunity to acquire it.

@Malamar1229 The Breton Hero costume currently isn't a part of crown crate selection. But to put things into perspective for you: I'm trying to get the Red Pit Wolf on the PTS. After 10400 crowns, I'm about halfway to the wolf and the only item I got out of the crates that I'd actually want to use was a wizard hat. 10k crowns and not even done yet. The wolf would be 2500 crowns if it was sold outside crown crates. Worse yet, the Orchid Nixad is in the same reward tier and it would be 700 crowns normally. I've already paid almost 15x that and haven't got it yet.

Still happy you might get a chance at the hero costume?

Palindiil

No, don't ever add these into the game.

One of my many troubles with this is that, whilst it might not be pay to win, it is, as someone else said, pay to enjoy. Part of the ESSENTIAL joy of Elder Scrolls is playing as any character you care to create and personalizing that character with armour, clothes, mounts etc. This takes away all of that and puts it behind a gambling wall.

Doctordarkspawn

No, don't ever add these into the game.

It hit the PTS and was just about as trash as I was expecting.

One in four were usually a drop for a actuall item (Sometimes not even then, just crown store consumeables) and most of them were duplicates or pets.

Nobody is behind it in it's current form. I personally will attempt to delude myself into this systems nonexistance.

SlayerTheDragon

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Rosveen wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

I like the Breton Hero costumer. I am new so this gives me an opportunity to acquire it.

@Malamar1229 The Breton Hero costume currently isn't a part of crown crate selection. But to put things into perspective for you: I'm trying to get the Red Pit Wolf on the PTS. After 10400 crowns, I'm about halfway to the wolf and the only item I got out of the crates that I'd actually want to use was a wizard hat. 10k crowns and not even done yet. The wolf would be 2500 crowns if it was sold outside crown crates. Worse yet, the Orchid Nixad is in the same reward tier and it would be 700 crowns normally. I've already paid almost 15x that and haven't got it yet.

Still happy you might get a chance at the hero costume?

Exactly, this is a new form of "how low can they stoop" cash grab.

And the worst is things were working well without the boxes. Subs should be at an all time high already. This is a scumbag move.


edit:
But this has been a thing of ZO$ since before launch - remember the ImperialGate.

Troneon

No, don't ever add these into the game.

It's basically casino gambling style micro transactions....

MornaBaine

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Palindiil wrote: »

One of my many troubles with this is that, whilst it might not be pay to win, it is, as someone else said, pay to enjoy. Part of the ESSENTIAL joy of Elder Scrolls is playing as any character you care to create and personalizing that character with armour, clothes, mounts etc. This takes away all of that and puts it behind a gambling wall.

SO MUCH ALL OF THIS!

MornaBaine

No, don't ever add these into the game.

So now there's an "official" discussion on this over on the PTS forums: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/292545/official-discussion-thread-for-crown-crates#latest

Please people, go ahead and download PTS and check them out and then contribute on this thread.

Runs

No, don't ever add these into the game.

There is a thread on the new Monster helm sets HERE which includes an image of them

I moved the images around to make a little better of a fit for the page here



My initial reaction to the thread, minus the joke I made about Leatherface...

Runs wrote: »

These all look really... bad... like really really bad. Like these are old concepts from pre beta that never got finished/refined for placement into the game.

Now, I know someone is reading this thinking... "WTF does that have to do with this thread" and I will bring the post I was going to make on that thread, but felt it was more fitted to this thread.

"The more I think about this the more bothered I become.

They really do look unfinished, out of scale, and low resolution. Is this what new content is going to become? Just slapped together because they had the art teams working on the kick butt stuff they are adding to the crown crates instead? Look at the stuff from the crates in PTS and tell me any of it looks as bad as these do."


And this is what worries me with the crates. They become the source of funding and suddenly the stuff that goes into them will be more important to update than the game and or content itself because that is where the money is.

Lifecode666

price on mounts need to go down 50%

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

MissBizz wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

With One Tamriel ZoS is bringing the community together.

I am seeing that end game PvE community who enjoys trials is up in arms over the changes to BoE/BoP along with an increase in the resistances to trash mobs, making it take longer.

The community that enjoys the fluff and roleplay offered through the crown store is enraged over crown crates, and how the housing system will soon be dealt with.

And the PvP community... well they have been upset for years, for many reasons.

Aww your really bringing us all together!

We will now all suffer

Literally laughed out loud. You're kinda right. Lol

But fortunately enough there is a very simple remedy for the whole problem - to stay away from this game, just like I do it now for about a month and it is not even hard at all. I do not need this game and I especially do not need Zenimax - this was the last game I ever bought from them - even I love Fallout and such, I will never again buy a game from the Zenimax group.

Vote with your wallets.

Elsonso

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Runs wrote: »

And this is what worries me with the crates. They become the source of funding and suddenly the stuff that goes into them will be more important to update than the game and or content itself because that is where the money is.

Yes. Business tend to align themselves along revenue lines, and ZOS seems unable to generate revenue from the GAME DESIGN part of the studio. They will be carried along by the Crown Store side of the studio, for as long as they remain attached to the Live ESO development. Meanwhile, staff will be pulled from ESO to work on Projects, which might be funded from Crown Store, if Crates are successful enough.

Just pulling out the crystal ball, I do expect that they will pull back from quarterly DLC to twice per year pretty soon. They will have nice sounding reasons, like the "letting the game breathe" one that they used a while back. They will also transition to F2P for the "end of life" game phase. In this phase, they won't be doing regular patches and updates, so the game will be "as-is".

Crown Crates were planned a long time ago. I seem to recall a question in an ESO Live that we would see Pacrooti again, which was itself a reference to a comment from 2014 saying that he would be coming back. My guess is that ZOS has ESO planned through 2018.

Easily_Lost

Yes I like the random boxes idea so Long as they only have cosmetics

Lysette wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

With One Tamriel ZoS is bringing the community together.

I am seeing that end game PvE community who enjoys trials is up in arms over the changes to BoE/BoP along with an increase in the resistances to trash mobs, making it take longer.

The community that enjoys the fluff and roleplay offered through the crown store is enraged over crown crates, and how the housing system will soon be dealt with.

And the PvP community... well they have been upset for years, for many reasons.

Aww your really bringing us all together!

We will now all suffer

Literally laughed out loud. You're kinda right. Lol

But fortunately enough there is a very simple remedy for the whole problem - to stay away from this game, just like I do it now for about a month and it is not even hard at all. I do not need this game and I especially do not need Zenimax - this was the last game I ever bought from them - even I love Fallout and such, I will never again buy a game from the Zenimax group.

Vote with your wallets.

I just don't understand how not playing the game is voting with your wallets. You can still play the game and not buy anything. I said in one of earlier posts, the people that say they will quitting the game because of the Crown Crates, I might be wrong, they were unhappy with the game long before the crates.

I hope that part of housing will be put behind the ESO+ wall.

Cazzy

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Can I make an observation here?

We're kinda cornered into buying items available in the Crown Store now as when crates arrive we may end up with them anyway. By buying them now we have a chance at getting gems instead.

It's also another reason I think they're going to put less stuff out to buy. It becomes irrelevant if we unintentionally buy them through crates later on.

AlienSlof

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Still won't buy crates. Ever. I'll make do with the nice things I have already.

And I'll enjoy seeing the occasional fancy thing ride past while not spending anything. Just like how I enjoy fireworks. My money is not for gambling on 'might haves'.

Esquire1980g_ESO

No, don't ever add these into the game.

hagermanj wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

With One Tamriel ZoS is bringing the community together.

I am seeing that end game PvE community who enjoys trials is up in arms over the changes to BoE/BoP along with an increase in the resistances to trash mobs, making it take longer.

The community that enjoys the fluff and roleplay offered through the crown store is enraged over crown crates, and how the housing system will soon be dealt with.

And the PvP community... well they have been upset for years, for many reasons.

Aww your really bringing us all together!

We will now all suffer

Literally laughed out loud. You're kinda right. Lol

But fortunately enough there is a very simple remedy for the whole problem - to stay away from this game, just like I do it now for about a month and it is not even hard at all. I do not need this game and I especially do not need Zenimax - this was the last game I ever bought from them - even I love Fallout and such, I will never again buy a game from the Zenimax group.

Vote with your wallets.

I just don't understand how not playing the game is voting with your wallets. You can still play the game and not buy anything. I said in one of earlier posts, the people that say they will quitting the game because of the Crown Crates, I might be wrong, they were unhappy with the game long before the crates.

I hope that part of housing will be put behind the ESO+ wall.

It's easy to figure out how and why she said this. I've already done the same, stopped playing this game and took my wallet and went home, well to another game anyway, that can not be charged for. There are alternatives.

The Gaming community sent the original message on this exact point, back in 2005 (for the 1st time I seen it anyway) and that was due to the NGE in Star Wars Galaxies. About 1/2 - 2/3rds of the entire playerbase LEFT over a supposed "business" move of development. That game NEVER recovered and I doubt that this one will either. This kind of development will continue right up to the point that the players do not take it any longer.

If anyone actually believes that this will benefit ESO, try logging into STO or TOR. Lockboxes galore and your lucky to see another player except around the main end game maps. ESO was about the last AAA MMORPG that didn't have this crap and like SOE, ZOS has no idea why most of us were here. It surely wasn't for the 200 v 200 PVP they advertised, or the fact that the game is voiced over (TOR is exactly the same there). It never occurred to them that the reasoning for some, if not most of us, were here due to the fact that this type of cash-grab didn't exist. Well, just like SOE, ZOS can learn it the hard way also.

MissBizz

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I just realized I got really excited over some datamined goats awhile ago.

Out of everything (except limited time stuff) I think the only things I didn't hmm on were the goats. I bought them the day they were available. I own a ridiculous amount of pets, yet the majority of my characters keep my goat Spike as their pet the majority of the time.

It just hit me. I knew I cared about cosmetics and fluff, but damn. If they put the goats in there I don't know what I would do. It wouldn't be buying crates. And it wouldn't be wandering around Tamriel without one.

Lysette

No, don't ever add these into the game.

hagermanj wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

FireCowCommando wrote: »

With One Tamriel ZoS is bringing the community together.

I am seeing that end game PvE community who enjoys trials is up in arms over the changes to BoE/BoP along with an increase in the resistances to trash mobs, making it take longer.

The community that enjoys the fluff and roleplay offered through the crown store is enraged over crown crates, and how the housing system will soon be dealt with.

And the PvP community... well they have been upset for years, for many reasons.

Aww your really bringing us all together!

We will now all suffer

Literally laughed out loud. You're kinda right. Lol

But fortunately enough there is a very simple remedy for the whole problem - to stay away from this game, just like I do it now for about a month and it is not even hard at all. I do not need this game and I especially do not need Zenimax - this was the last game I ever bought from them - even I love Fallout and such, I will never again buy a game from the Zenimax group.

Vote with your wallets.

I just don't understand how not playing the game is voting with your wallets. You can still play the game and not buy anything. I said in one of earlier posts, the people that say they will quitting the game because of the Crown Crates, I might be wrong, they were unhappy with the game long before the crates.

I hope that part of housing will be put behind the ESO+ wall.

Not unhappy with the game, unhappy with the company running and developing the game - I think that is a call from the higher level of Zenimax and not a move from ZOS - and so I boycott all of Zenimax now. I might have a look into how ESO evolves over time and play a little, but my interest into it is basically gone - I just cannot play it for long or often, it makes me angry. Greed was bad enough, but this now is abusive behavior - it is even a level higher than just plain greed. It is malevolent to people. And yes, I was unhappy with the company running the game before, but I could still tolerate it somewhat, but I cannot tolerate this now, this is criminal in my home country.

Necrelios

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Most of the cheap F2P games I've dabbled with over the years just to see what is out there have some kind of gamble box system. I have mixed feelings about this, because some stick to cosmetic items, while others go full on pay-to-win legendary jackpot type stuff that you can't get even in game.

Either way, what I do like to see is some way to purchase these from other players looking to make some gold, or even a way to earn them in game. This not only fights off gold seller websites, but it also puts in place a safety measure in case these boxes ever do turn full on pay-to-win, allowing them to be acquired through an in game mechanism.

MornaBaine

No, don't ever add these into the game.

Runs wrote: »

There is a thread on the new Monster helm sets HERE which includes an image of them

I moved the images around to make a little better of a fit for the page here



My initial reaction to the thread, minus the joke I made about Leatherface...

Runs wrote: »

These all look really... bad... like really really bad. Like these are old concepts from pre beta that never got finished/refined for placement into the game.

Now, I know someone is reading this thinking... "WTF does that have to do with this thread" and I will bring the post I was going to make on that thread, but felt it was more fitted to this thread.

"The more I think about this the more bothered I become.

They really do look unfinished, out of scale, and low resolution. Is this what new content is going to become? Just slapped together because they had the art teams working on the kick butt stuff they are adding to the crown crates instead? Look at the stuff from the crates in PTS and tell me any of it looks as bad as these do."


And this is what worries me with the crates. They become the source of funding and suddenly the stuff that goes into them will be more important to update than the game and or content itself because that is where the money is.

I have really never liked the monster sets at all. Most of them are lackluster in performance with a couple notable exceptions ad ALL of them are ugly as sin. I get it, they're monster heads. I just wish there was something comparable that actually looked GOOD.

I DO use the one that procs the Daedroth when I'm just out PvE questing cause I think it's neat. But for what you have to go through to get these... completely not worth it.

I_killed_Vivec

MissBizz wrote: »

I got really excited over some datamined goats.

Is that legal?

TheValkyn

No, don't ever add these into the game.

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

I got really excited over some datamined goats.

Is that legal?

Yes but take what's in the datamined results with a grain of salt. Things can change. Similar to how Matt Firor and Pete Hines changed his stance on all of this gambling garbage.