danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »Question to RPers ...
What are you actually doing? I mean do you stand in Mournhold singing Red Diamond every night? This is very confusing to me. Please explain.
DurzoBlint13 wrote: »DurzoBlint13 wrote: »can someone please explain what the appeal of RP is? Do you have too much time on your hands and you are bored? Do you enjoy acting but do not want to do it IRL? Or do you actually enjoy ignoring reward/achievement based game play in favor of acting out random scenes with no structure? Seriously, not trying to be an ass....just do not understand it
Do you enjoy any creative type hobbies IRL such as drawing, painting, playing music, etc. Or do you believe all hobbies need to produce a tangible end product? I'm trying to understand your perspective and why you may be finding it difficult to understand how some people might derive enjoyment from roleplaying on a RPG.
sorry but no I do not draw or paint or play music. I play video game with some form progressive aspect to them as my hobby. I am more scientifically minded than most people and I think very analytically. I need to goal to achieve or I can not get motivated to do things. Again, I am not really against RPers, I just don't see how that is fun. To each his own I guess. I would rather sit and do a Sudoku puzzle than make up back stories for characters that serve no purpose. My girlfriend is an artist and she tells me to "lighten up" all the time and that I should "do things just for the sake of doing them" but that is just not how I think or act. Maybe I am just an "uptight jerk" like she calls me when she is mad at me....Lol. Thanks
outsideworld76 wrote: »Unfortunately ZOS has no love for us, only wants to push PvE content and does nothinh to improve lag issues in Cyrodiil.
DurzoBlint13 wrote: »Your name is Durzo Blint right? What book is he from? I can't remember. But he was the ass kicking assassin dude. You obviously enjoyed the book if your name is Durzo Blint. Now imagine you can create a story like that book, except you are Durzo. You are that ass kicking assassin. The story unfolds, except instead of reading it on a page you are acting it out yourself with your friends. Fun, no?
I don't understand how you can say 'I don't understand things where there is no tangible product at the end' and then read a book.
the name is from the "Nightangel Trilogy". To me reading is completely different than buying a combat focused game and ignoring the combat. It seems to me to be like getting the "Song of Fire and Ice" series and only reading the parts about Tyrion. And in the books that I read they are working toward a goal. Books with no plot and no progression quickly get sold again. Books like "The Sorcerer's Ring" just hold no interest for me. It is hard to explain in the 4 mintues I have left before work ends, but to me there is a big difference between reading for reading sake and reading to enjoy a story or characters. Sorry, wish I could put it into words but that is pretty much the same as the difference between me not understanding RP and you not understanding me. Live and let live. Enjoy your imaginations kiddos!
as a side note I might like to sit in on a RP session some time and see what it is I am not understanding. Maybe I have to be there to get it?
Very well done OP making people choose one or the other, otherwise everyone would choose both and the poll would be moot. It's interesting to see PvE is currently ahead given I assumed this community was far more heavily focused on pvp.
DurzoBlint13 wrote: »Your name is Durzo Blint right? What book is he from? I can't remember. But he was the ass kicking assassin dude. You obviously enjoyed the book if your name is Durzo Blint. Now imagine you can create a story like that book, except you are Durzo. You are that ass kicking assassin. The story unfolds, except instead of reading it on a page you are acting it out yourself with your friends. Fun, no?
I don't understand how you can say 'I don't understand things where there is no tangible product at the end' and then read a book.
the name is from the "Nightangel Trilogy". To me reading is completely different than buying a combat focused game and ignoring the combat. It seems to me to be like getting the "Song of Fire and Ice" series and only reading the parts about Tyrion. And in the books that I read they are working toward a goal. Books with no plot and no progression quickly get sold again. Books like "The Sorcerer's Ring" just hold no interest for me. It is hard to explain in the 4 mintues I have left before work ends, but to me there is a big difference between reading for reading sake and reading to enjoy a story or characters. Sorry, wish I could put it into words but that is pretty much the same as the difference between me not understanding RP and you not understanding me. Live and let live. Enjoy your imaginations kiddos!
as a side note I might like to sit in on a RP session some time and see what it is I am not understanding. Maybe I have to be there to get it?
Do not make the mistake of thinking that Roleplayers ONLY do Roleplay. This is largely untrue.
For example, the unofficial RP server in GW2, before the servers were mixed up, was Tier 1-2 on World vs World (their three-sides large scale PvP) and the second server to finish the most difficult PvE content in the game.
RP is an aspect of the game that most of us like to participate on along with the goal-oriented aspects. Using the same comparison as you, not roleplaying would be like reading ASOIAF and skipping all of Tyrion's chapters, then
We RP to enjoy the story or characters too, like you read to enjoy the story or the characters. Only some of the characters are our characters, that we wrote ourselves (and others are other people's characters, that they wrote).
DurzoBlint13 wrote: »Your name is Durzo Blint right? What book is he from? I can't remember. But he was the ass kicking assassin dude. You obviously enjoyed the book if your name is Durzo Blint. Now imagine you can create a story like that book, except you are Durzo. You are that ass kicking assassin. The story unfolds, except instead of reading it on a page you are acting it out yourself with your friends. Fun, no?
I don't understand how you can say 'I don't understand things where there is no tangible product at the end' and then read a book.
the name is from the "Nightangel Trilogy". To me reading is completely different than buying a combat focused game and ignoring the combat. It seems to me to be like getting the "Song of Fire and Ice" series and only reading the parts about Tyrion. And in the books that I read they are working toward a goal. Books with no plot and no progression quickly get sold again. Books like "The Sorcerer's Ring" just hold no interest for me. It is hard to explain in the 4 mintues I have left before work ends, but to me there is a big difference between reading for reading sake and reading to enjoy a story or characters. Sorry, wish I could put it into words but that is pretty much the same as the difference between me not understanding RP and you not understanding me. Live and let live. Enjoy your imaginations kiddos!
as a side note I might like to sit in on a RP session some time and see what it is I am not understanding. Maybe I have to be there to get it?
Do not make the mistake of thinking that Roleplayers ONLY do Roleplay. This is largely untrue.
For example, the unofficial RP server in GW2, before the servers were mixed up, was Tier 1-2 on World vs World (their three-sides large scale PvP) and the second server to finish the most difficult PvE content in the game.
RP is an aspect of the game that most of us like to participate on along with the goal-oriented aspects. Using the same comparison as you, not roleplaying would be like reading ASOIAF and skipping all of Tyrion's chapters, then
We RP to enjoy the story or characters too, like you read to enjoy the story or the characters. Only some of the characters are our characters, that we wrote ourselves (and others are other people's characters, that they wrote).
A way i like to put it is; a good way to rp an incredibly skilled character its to actually have your character be incredibly skilled.
DurzoBlint13 wrote: »Your name is Durzo Blint right? What book is he from? I can't remember. But he was the ass kicking assassin dude. You obviously enjoyed the book if your name is Durzo Blint. Now imagine you can create a story like that book, except you are Durzo. You are that ass kicking assassin. The story unfolds, except instead of reading it on a page you are acting it out yourself with your friends. Fun, no?
I don't understand how you can say 'I don't understand things where there is no tangible product at the end' and then read a book.
the name is from the "Nightangel Trilogy". To me reading is completely different than buying a combat focused game and ignoring the combat. It seems to me to be like getting the "Song of Fire and Ice" series and only reading the parts about Tyrion. And in the books that I read they are working toward a goal. Books with no plot and no progression quickly get sold again. Books like "The Sorcerer's Ring" just hold no interest for me. It is hard to explain in the 4 mintues I have left before work ends, but to me there is a big difference between reading for reading sake and reading to enjoy a story or characters. Sorry, wish I could put it into words but that is pretty much the same as the difference between me not understanding RP and you not understanding me. Live and let live. Enjoy your imaginations kiddos!
as a side note I might like to sit in on a RP session some time and see what it is I am not understanding. Maybe I have to be there to get it?
Do not make the mistake of thinking that Roleplayers ONLY do Roleplay. This is largely untrue.
For example, the unofficial RP server in GW2, before the servers were mixed up, was Tier 1-2 on World vs World (their three-sides large scale PvP) and the second server to finish the most difficult PvE content in the game.
RP is an aspect of the game that most of us like to participate on along with the goal-oriented aspects. Using the same comparison as you, not roleplaying would be like reading ASOIAF and skipping all of Tyrion's chapters, then
We RP to enjoy the story or characters too, like you read to enjoy the story or the characters. Only some of the characters are our characters, that we wrote ourselves (and others are other people's characters, that they wrote).
A way i like to put it is; a good way to rp an incredibly skilled character its to actually have your character be incredibly skilled.
I agree 100%.
One of the things that annoy me the most is when someone is roleplaying a super powerful warrior but doesn't bother to even level that character. Had a guild leader do that on a hardcore RP guild I was part of in other game. Guy started a freaking speech in front of a boss inside a dungeon we were running in-character without knowing he was within the range of the boss, and got one-hit killed. Sigh...
Waffennacht wrote: »DurzoBlint13 wrote: »Your name is Durzo Blint right? What book is he from? I can't remember. But he was the ass kicking assassin dude. You obviously enjoyed the book if your name is Durzo Blint. Now imagine you can create a story like that book, except you are Durzo. You are that ass kicking assassin. The story unfolds, except instead of reading it on a page you are acting it out yourself with your friends. Fun, no?
I don't understand how you can say 'I don't understand things where there is no tangible product at the end' and then read a book.
the name is from the "Nightangel Trilogy". To me reading is completely different than buying a combat focused game and ignoring the combat. It seems to me to be like getting the "Song of Fire and Ice" series and only reading the parts about Tyrion. And in the books that I read they are working toward a goal. Books with no plot and no progression quickly get sold again. Books like "The Sorcerer's Ring" just hold no interest for me. It is hard to explain in the 4 mintues I have left before work ends, but to me there is a big difference between reading for reading sake and reading to enjoy a story or characters. Sorry, wish I could put it into words but that is pretty much the same as the difference between me not understanding RP and you not understanding me. Live and let live. Enjoy your imaginations kiddos!
as a side note I might like to sit in on a RP session some time and see what it is I am not understanding. Maybe I have to be there to get it?
Do not make the mistake of thinking that Roleplayers ONLY do Roleplay. This is largely untrue.
For example, the unofficial RP server in GW2, before the servers were mixed up, was Tier 1-2 on World vs World (their three-sides large scale PvP) and the second server to finish the most difficult PvE content in the game.
RP is an aspect of the game that most of us like to participate on along with the goal-oriented aspects. Using the same comparison as you, not roleplaying would be like reading ASOIAF and skipping all of Tyrion's chapters, then
We RP to enjoy the story or characters too, like you read to enjoy the story or the characters. Only some of the characters are our characters, that we wrote ourselves (and others are other people's characters, that they wrote).
A way i like to put it is; a good way to rp an incredibly skilled character its to actually have your character be incredibly skilled.
I agree 100%.
One of the things that annoy me the most is when someone is roleplaying a super powerful warrior but doesn't bother to even level that character. Had a guild leader do that on a hardcore RP guild I was part of in other game. Guy started a freaking speech in front of a boss inside a dungeon we were running in-character without knowing he was within the range of the boss, and got one-hit killed. Sigh...
Ahahahahaa, well it fits the character right? We all know that person whom talks the talk, but sadly cannot walk the walk. I think that's the best RP experience I've read
There is something to do outside of Cyrodiil?
I have always been a RP and when i started eso i looked at the map in auridon and went directly to the tavern to have a drink and some food and have a chat with other players there. To my suprise i couldnt order anything, i couldnt even sit down and no other ppl/players where there. I couldnt find a place to sleep, i couldnt get a job in town and so on. In just a few days of playing my RP efforts where diminishing. And i went the same route every new player is forced to do, the quest after quest after quest route. Now im in pvp almost all my playtime, and my efforts to roleplay is just a vague memory.