Dark Brotherhood - somewhat disturbing

DBZVelena

For those of you wondering, you can turn of the blade of woe death cam yes, its a setting in your camera settings.
Right at the top if i'm not mistaken.

For those having issue with the DB storyline. Don't do it, or if you have to because whatever shiny you're after. turning off death cam is prob best option.

And No you do not need to even start the DB story line to get the sky crystals in the zone. Those are all accessible without the DB story. Since you can just waypoint to the zones starting town. And then walk to the ones in the zone and delves. the delves have both got a cute story that does not feature the DB story either. One even has Razum-dar in them.

To those being salty over the fact that somebody ELSE doesn't want to play what is clearly your favorite content. Live and let live friends, think of it this way, less assassins means more loot for you and less waiting between npc respawn times. No need to be rude to em just let em play eso the way they want to. It doesn't affect you in any negative way does it?

And to those complaining about threat necroing, clearly the topic is still somewhat relevant if people are still posting valid comments instead of memes.

SteveCampsOut

Jhunn wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

The rating does not mean that no-one has the right to be offended, we all have different opinions on what we like or do not like to see in a game. I also think this level of imagery is a sign that we are relying less on our own imaginations and more on modern games to supply every little detail to us.

People are too easily offended. It's a game and you're pretty much over-analyzing the DB cut-scenes.

I'm certainly not offended by the cut scenes but I could do without them and enjoy the game more. My problem with them has nothing whatsoever to do with the gore. I don't like how the game freezes all actions to play the damn things and they're not as interruptible as they should be. A Toggle to turn off cut scenes all together would be a welcome addition to my game flow.

Edited to note that the post before mine showed me how to turn them off under camera settings. Much thanks!

Sylvermynx

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Jhunn wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

The rating does not mean that no-one has the right to be offended, we all have different opinions on what we like or do not like to see in a game. I also think this level of imagery is a sign that we are relying less on our own imaginations and more on modern games to supply every little detail to us.

People are too easily offended. It's a game and you're pretty much over-analyzing the DB cut-scenes.

I'm certainly not offended by the cut scenes but I could do without them and enjoy the game more. My problem with them has nothing whatsoever to do with the gore. I don't like how the game freezes all actions to play the damn things and they're not as interruptible as they should be. A Toggle to turn off cut scenes all together would be a welcome addition to my game flow.

How about the same very simple thing you do to get ON with the MQ? "Press any key to skip" the cutscene with Mani and his goons....

XiDiabolismiX

Isn’t there an option to turn this off...? Assassination camera is what it’s called, I’m almost positive....

I disagree with everything you said btw, just pointing that out.

Seleval

Afaik there is the option in... Gameplay? To turn the animation off, have a look there!

Morgha_Kul

You're not the only one. I find the whole thing rather disturbing too. I made a character to play through the content, but wanted to keep him a professional assassin, who only took the jobs to take out the "deserving." However, the story arc keeps sending you out to kill innocents, and I find that rather hard to play. As such, I've more or less stopped playing him.

I do have a second character, an Argonian, who I was going to make an assassin too (a Shadowscale), but I don't think I can play through that again. I'll have to come up with something else.

SteveCampsOut

DBZVelena wrote: »

For those of you wondering, you can turn of the blade of woe death cam yes, its a setting in your camera settings.
Right at the top if i'm not mistaken.

Just to make this stand out!

HorrorShow

I like the kill animations. I also like the enchant kill animations where they burst into flames or become a frozen corpse. Obviously we can't do these things in real life but it is fun to be able to let loose in a fake environment and indulge the desire to inflict violence on others.

Michae

I think some people just read too much into the game, and I don't mean just this particular death cam thing. People tie their real life politics to a fantasy game and get disturbed by the actions that are pretty much standard to video games.
As for DB I have this to say:
- Kill cam - doesn't bother me, I like the animations and they are too over the top to be taken seriously. Real stabbings look very different and it's their real life consequences that are scary. Here it's just a bunch of polygons and pixels doing a dance in silly manner. Should there be an option to turn it off? Sure, why not, if that's what float your boat.
- Muh immersion - are you really concerned about immersion in an mmo? Sure, there are people running around npcs but that's hardly the most immersion breaking. There are bears sitting on top of crafting stations, people bunnyhopping around, duelers that run around populated areas and the freaking flag drops from the sky when they start the fight. What else? Oh, you get lines of people handing in the quest saving the realm, you discover some abandoned ruins that no one's seen for thousands of years and there's a bunch of people running around and killing everything. And to top it all most player characters are over the top, shiny, spiky and glowy and have the names like Noobmaster69. So yeah, npcs dropping dead from time to time is the least immersion breaking problem to me.

I get it that people have different sensitivities about stuff but this particular stuff is hardly gory. You must've been playing video games only since yesterday to find it disturbing. So I find it strange that it bothers people so much since many games over the years had much more brutal stuff than this, Skyrim included. And if you don't want your character to be a stabby assassin just don't buy the dlc/don't do the quest line/don't stab the npcs. Just let people be thieves and assassins if they want, there's plenty of content in this game for your hero types.

Raudgrani

I have a ten y.o. son who plays ESO with me now and then. He's gifted with some sort of genetical "good guy genes" I suppose. When he was new to the game, he wanted to try everything and so on. He gladly joined the thieves guild and did a few quests.

Then I was like:
- You want to join the Dark Brotherhood?
- Yeah yeah! What do I have to do?
- Kill an innocent, to prove you are cruel and all
- Okay... No. I don't want to do that,
- It's okay, you don't have to
- Have you done it? I mean, that's just wrong...

Same son has like solid full "Good Honor" in RDR2 all the time, while his f****d up dad is at the lowest abyss of hell all the time. I'm completely deranged myself, so I haven't even been thinking that way. LOL

What I mean is, I can see that quite some people would have problems with this story line. But after all, everything can't suit everyone.

And please, spare me from moral sermons for letting my son play this and other games, he never plays ESO alone, and is obviously a more moral and well mannered guy than most adults.

DBZVelena

Raudgrani wrote: »

I have a ten y.o. son who plays ESO with me now and then. He's gifted with some sort of genetical "good guy genes" I suppose. When he was new to the game, he wanted to try everything and so on. He gladly joined the thieves guild and did a few quests.

Then I was like:
- You want to join the Dark Brotherhood?
- Yeah yeah! What do I have to do?
- Kill an innocent, to prove you are cruel and all
- Okay... No. I don't want to do that,
- It's okay, you don't have to
- Have you done it? I mean, that's just wrong...

Same son has like solid full "Good Honor" in RDR2 all the time, while his f****d up dad is at the lowest abyss of hell all the time. I'm completely deranged myself, so I haven't even been thinking that way. LOL

What I mean is, I can see that quite some people would have problems with this story line. But after all, everything can't suit everyone.

And please, spare me from moral sermons for letting my son play this and other games, he never plays ESO alone, and is obviously a more moral and well mannered guy than most adults.

You obviously know what you're doing, with actually being present while he plays and the fact that he chose not to play the DB story line. Kid clearly has some awesome role models else he'd not make such grownup decisions.

Personally i think the games rating is only because of some very select story content and the fact you can steal from and murder npc's. Avoid that and the rest of the game is pg13 just like most mmo's.

Reistr_the_Unbroken

Blackwing_Soul wrote: »

Too many mmos (even this one sometimes) force you into the role of a shining white knight when honestly all I want to do is shank a fool. Thank you, Blade of Woe. Thank you.

I still wish I could join Molag instead of saving the world for the nth time in a row 😔