ZOS, permaban the ulti exploiters/hackers. No excuses.

milkbox

Buffler wrote: »

milkbox wrote: »

I couldn't help but do some sleuthing on this- seems like a new version of (unnamed cheat software) *just* came out this week, making it possible to use it with ESO. I checked out the website of (unnamed cheat software) and it is intended for use only in single player games. I think it's likely we'd see a response from the developer of the 3rd party application, too- I don't think they want their product used in this way. Maybe I'm being naive, but I think complaining directly to them might get results, too- at least to prevent future exploits?

Very naive lol

Wouldn't be the first time... lol... but truly curious, couldn't ZOS take legal action against them?

Sir Daniel Fortesque

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

well, maybe they get a 3 day ban. and the ppl reporting the cheaters will get a perma ban for naming & shaming #zoslogic

I was able to save this thread of mine here. You can reason with mods if you need to.

Molag_Crow

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

If nothing happens to those who cheated, well - that will just give them the green light to continue doing so whenever new exploits and cheats arise.

Aye! @Molag_Crow is in the building! Hi brah!

Hi. Maybe you could call Molag Bal and get him to transport cheaters to a Daedric prison? HEY. That's a brilliant idea actually! we need an actual in-game prison for cheaters and exploiters.

Seri

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

I have a guildie who used to throw multiple ultimates without knowing how to do so, for a long while - he didn't always do it, but it happened pretty often ..and he was not cheating. I suspect that there are many players who experience these exploits like this. They run around, quest and do dailies while they throw multiple ultimates and don't know how or why.

Lol, who on earth can unknowingly install a program for cheating and unknowingly modify some variables in their game client?

I also had a guildie had an issue with double ground-based ults to the point they were frustrated why it would double up https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/249561/double-storm-atronach

Still nothing compared to the BS of today. Ruins the game

Arvs

Drop the banhammer ZOS. Your game is being ruined by this.

Buffler

milkbox wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

milkbox wrote: »

I couldn't help but do some sleuthing on this- seems like a new version of (unnamed cheat software) *just* came out this week, making it possible to use it with ESO. I checked out the website of (unnamed cheat software) and it is intended for use only in single player games. I think it's likely we'd see a response from the developer of the 3rd party application, too- I don't think they want their product used in this way. Maybe I'm being naive, but I think complaining directly to them might get results, too- at least to prevent future exploits?

Very naive lol

Wouldn't be the first time... lol... but truly curious, couldn't ZOS take legal action against them?

Not unless the hack actually hacks ZOS servers and not the client software which this does. Ive said previous that software companies reputations are paramount and hacks (not exploits) can damage that beyond repair. I guarantee ZOS will bring down the ban hammer swiftly and very very hard!

CyrusArya

Absolutely no excuses are valid. Permabans or admit that your TOS isn't worth the paper that it's written on. People nonchalantly cheat because they have no fear or respect for the *** that administer authority around here. Do you not see how dangerous this is for the game? Just as in real life government, the integrity of a social system is founded in the strength of the rule of law. When there's no respect for the rule of law, everything loses meaning and validity. The fact that exploits like this can happen and are not taken seriously by the 'government' has wide spread ramifications that defile pretty much every aspect of competitive play.

Have respect for the integrity of your game. We're not asking for much here, just that you moderate your game and maintain your TOS. Hell, at least do so with same diligence that you police these forums.....

Wolfkeks

Agree with this post 100 %

mtwiggz

Holiday weekend is more important to ZoS than the credibility of their game and company.

Arthur_Spoonfondle

Woeler wrote: »

Just for once actually make the consequences of exploiting visible. So no meagre 3 day ban and not having the exploited mats taken (which you said would be done, but just didn't) away for the banker exploit, no special treatment for streamers, no meagre 24 hour ban for using bugs that have not been fixed for months in cyrodiil.

Just a damn permanent ban. We don't want cheaters, not in PvE, not in PvP. We want them to be gone, deleted, wiped from the servers.

Thank you.

Get on with it please ZoS. Few players have any time for cheats, except the cheats themselves. Even fewer players have any time for companies, running online games, who don't do anything about cheats.

Show you mean business and, show some respect for the honest players, by banning the cheats permanently.

failkiwib16_ESO

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

I have a guildie who used to throw multiple ultimates without knowing how to do so, for a long while - he didn't always do it, but it happened pretty often ..and he was not cheating. I suspect that there are many players who experience these exploits like this. They run around, quest and do dailies while they throw multiple ultimates and don't know how or why.

Lol, who on earth can unknowingly install a program for cheating and unknowingly modify some variables in their game client?

Buffler wrote: »

No, just no

What we are discussing is a 3rd party program that you can download to hack the coding and inject any values to your client side coding. There is no way this can be done accidently. We all know the site address where this can be downloaded.

@Buffler & @KoshkaMurka I honestly don't know about the 3rd party program, my guildie managed to do this without that. He is used to play a DK but enjoys playing more with his nightblade, templar and sorc chars, which are classes he's got l2p issues with, so he quests in DLC areas with them and experienced multiple ultimates with his sorc and templar.

Since he wasn't sure wether it was a visual bug on his screen or if he really did throw multiple ultimates, he asked in guildchat if I wanted to do pledges and asked me to pay attention to his ultimates.
- he suggested pledges, because he doesn't know how to provoke it and hoped to be able to do it during the pledge fights.

Saturn

There are so many new names on the top of vMSA leaderboards on PC NA, it's f*cking disgusting to see cheaters be able to do this. This is way worse than the Writ Exploit, and hope all these people get permabanned, just like they did with the goldsellers and bots.

There is absolutely no reason why ZOS shouldn't bring out the banhammer for this. I mean for f*ck sake, ****** is nr.1 on Sorcerer and Templar in vMSA, and to my knowledge he's been exploiting and cheating as long as the game has been out...

Buffler

Saturn wrote: »

There are so many new names on the top of vMSA leaderboards on PC NA, it's f*cking disgusting to see cheaters be able to do this. This is way worse than the Writ Exploit, and hope all these people get permabanned, just like they did with the goldsellers and bots.

There is absolutely no reason why ZOS shouldn't bring out the banhammer for this. I mean for f*ck sake, ****** is nr.1 on Sorcerer and Templar in vMSA, and to my knowledge he's been exploiting and cheating as long as the game has been out...

Dont name people or the thread will be closed!

Plz edit your post so we can keep these threads going

Woeler

@Saturn please remove the names, the thread will otherwise get locked because of naming and shaming. Stupid rule, I know.

khele23eb17_ESO

I dont expect more than a 3 day temp ban at most for any violation of TOS short of using the game to organize a terrorist attack IRL.

Saturn

Woeler wrote: »

@Saturn please remove the names, the thread will otherwise get locked because of naming and shaming. Stupid rule, I know.

Of course, i hope my change is better. It's so f*cking stupid, lol. Pisses me right off.

Kalfis

I accuse the OP of cheating. He created this thread as a diversion tactic so he would go undetected, who would accuse a person calling out other hackers?

XBOX PS4 F4VER PLEBS

Ch4mpTW

Kalfis wrote: »

I accuse the OP of cheating. He created this thread as a diversion tactic so he would go undetected, who would accuse a person calling out other hackers?

SHOOT THE MAILMAN! XBOX PS4 F4VER

Lmao. Oh no. Another witch hunt on the forums?

Woeler

Kalfis wrote: »

I accuse the OP of cheating. He created this thread as a diversion tactic so he would go undetected, who would accuse a person calling out other hackers?

XBOX PS4 F4VER PLEBS

Yes, because making this thread will wipe all logs about my character from the server. I'm a genius.

And no, I don't hack. I like progress, group play and skill. Not this sh*t.

Rakkul

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Kalfis wrote: »

I accuse the OP of cheating. He created this thread as a diversion tactic so he would go undetected, who would accuse a person calling out other hackers?

SHOOT THE MAILMAN! XBOX PS4 F4VER

Lmao. Oh no. Another witch hunt on the forums?

Yes. Another day of trying to pvp - to be met with a squad full of hackers.
So what's your suggestion? Join them or are you one of them?

Korah_Eaglecry

Not really a surprise here. ZOS opened that pandoras box with their approach to the Survey Exploit. Now theyre going to end up with some bad press about this. Contact every gaming site you can, every youtuber that promotes this game. Make as much noise as you can.

All of this on the eve of their big Dark Brotherhood release. I hope it costs them some money. Sick and tired of their half ass approach to things so they can focus their energy on selling a new shiny LTO mount, costume or DLC.

Ch4mpTW

Rakkul wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Kalfis wrote: »

I accuse the OP of cheating. He created this thread as a diversion tactic so he would go undetected, who would accuse a person calling out other hackers?

SHOOT THE MAILMAN! XBOX PS4 F4VER

Lmao. Oh no. Another witch hunt on the forums?

Yes. Another day of trying to pvp - to be met with a squad full of hackers.
So what's your suggestion? Join them or are you one of them?

Hm.. My suggestion is that we as a community remain heavy on ZOS' case, until we receive some type of information from ZOS as to what they're doing to handle this mess that's happening with leaderboards and other things alike.

As for my placing in joining the witch hunters, or joining the witches? ... I will remain as a "watcher" of sorts, for I am a Lich, my boy. Or soon-to-be Lich. I am the male/masculine Maleficent of ESO's Community, if this was a Disney movie.

dsalter

so thats how i got ganked by a guy who burst out from stealth with both a dawnbreaker and soul harvest within a second from eachother. is this really starting to become popular already?
guess people think there wont be a ban hammer

xANTIxMATTERx

Perma ban the hackers. I've got @ handles for you. These people have absolutely zero respect for the game and don't deserve to play alongside the rest of the community. They are trash. I really hope you wipe the leaderboards with the DB update or else PVE is ruined. And PVP obviously isn't playable if everyone's using this program to have unlimited ulti and increased speed. Everyone has been told of the website at this point so whenever you mods want to step in a police these people just let us know. I'm sure the community can provide you with way more information than you are allowing us to because of forum TOS. This will be the death of the game if you don't find a way to detect this 3rd party program and ban anyone who has used it.

amgame308_ESO

This is ridiculous, it is like a coordinated DDoS attack with everyone exploiting this weekend seemingly knowing it is the Memorial Day weekend and corporate office is out of office. Perma spamming Ice Comet, Speed Hacks, and Perma dodge.

Please put some GM's in Cyrodill and start banning these players.

This is getting really old. You're not getting enough QA on the PTS, GM playing the game banning like it was in Everquest is the way to go.

code65536

Do it. Ban them all.

Rohamad_Ali

We are way past the time for permabans . If irrefutable evidence is given and action isn't taken after 2 years , its probably never coming . Which just means open doors for cheats . I'm not going to bother with the new DLC if that's the case . I'll just PvE casual part time .

Ch4mpTW

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

We are way past the time for permabans . If irrefutable evidence is given and action isn't taken after 2 years , its probably never coming . Which just means open doors for cheats .

Yup.

NativeJoe

Abeille wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

But I dont get it (seriously I just want to know) I always see threads about exploits...HOW can people exploit anything in the first place? On pc with add-ons or...? Why does Zos make it possible to exploit?

An exploit is when there is a bug that, when reproduced, gives an advantage. It is like the survey map exploit that made some people really rich a while ago, and ZOS didn't permaban the exploiters back then; instead, they banned them for 3 days and they got to kept the gold and mats acquired with the exploit. Bug exploit is usually a bannable offense in MMOs (you are supposed to report bugs, not use them in your favor).

I don't know much about this case specifically, but it seems that they are not exploiting a bug, but using a cheat software. I will be really surprised if ZOS dosn't permaban them.

They banned SOME of them. I know it was a public TS event... and they didn't get everyone doing it... infact no one in my TS got caught. they laundered the items through the auction houses just incase and put the items on another account because they knew they where doing something wrong. did they get even the 3 day treatment? no, not at all. No one even talked to them. I'd be suprised if Anyone gets anything at all for this...and it's not just a hotfix and ignore sort of thing.

Lava_Croft

You'll sooner get banned for disrupting a role-playing event than blatantly exploiting or hacking.