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Shameful Metoer cheats from a top EP guild NA Trueflame

  • Publius_Scipio
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    Kilandros wrote: »
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    Yup. players who were banned and known to be hacking have started to become unbanned.

    Part of the 43 Jessica specifically said were permanently banned the other day?

    As far as I know, yes.

    I am waiting for you ZAZEBRA!!!!

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  • phbell
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    If what @Rylana says is true
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    What I find sadder than anything else is several of them have been unbanned now. Even a couple people I know for sure were right there with Zaz doing it.

    Sigh...
    and I have little reason to doubt...this is disgusting and disheartening...there is simply no other way to put it.

    This coupled with the absence of any follow-up to the initial posts by ZOS on this matter is also troublesome.

    Finally, it is obvious, though not so apparently rampant, there are still some individuals using CE. If folks are unbanned after a day or so why even bother reporting it.

    A few days ago I thought Zaz's reasons and approach were completely wrong. I still cannot fully condone what was done as the way to get ZOS's attention but given the above I am beginning to think strong and drastic measures are about the only way to get them to address this in appropriate fashion.

    I do believe that as customers, as a community (both PvP and PvE), we do deserve better and would ask ZOS to provide it.

    I would really hate to see a repeat of this past weekend being the only way to get this matter handled appropriately.

    My BS meter reads pretty high when someone claims a greater good as motive for doing something wrong. Specifically - the claim that the blatant use of the cheat in such a public manner was intended to spur ZOS to act.. If the true intent was to force ZOS to act on cheating then there were far better methods. Now more people are aware of CE than before (myself included) and I fear that its use could increase. As @FENGRUSH states in another thread - whats to keep people from using CE to gain smaller, less detectable, advantages? I seriously doubt any altruistic intent.
  • moiraleafcull
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    phbell wrote: »
    My BS meter reads pretty high when someone claims a greater good as motive for doing something wrong. Specifically - the claim that the blatant use of the cheat in such a public manner was intended to spur ZOS to act.. If the true intent was to force ZOS to act on cheating then there were far better methods.

    I do not disagree at all.
    Perhaps the voicing of my frustration over this mess and the apparent lack of response and substantive action by ZOS even with such blatant illustration is misleading.
    Quite honestly, I am at a loss as to what it will take to get this addressed or at the very least mitigated.

    It appears reporting is useless or ignored.
    I double a public protest work such as staying out of Cyrodiil for a day or a week would work. I doubt it. Even with all guild leaders committed to such there are folks and some guilds that will go to Cyrodiil just to rack up stones and points unimpeded.
    Threats to drops subs (I have three accounts) are pretty much ridiculed and in truth have little effect on the bottom line.

    PvP is enough of a mess in this game to have caused lots of really good players and people to leave. I would really hate to see this, absent, any real action and communication regarding such by ZOS,, add to the exodus.











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  • ManwithBeard9
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    Now that I'm thinking about it, a PvP streamer was suspended (perma-banned?) while he was live. was back the next day after suspension/ban was rescinded. No idea if he was doing anything fishy, or it was just griefing because he ganks the poop out of people.
  • HeroOfNone
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    Now that I'm thinking about it, a PvP streamer was suspended (perma-banned?) while he was live. was back the next day after suspension/ban was rescinded. No idea if he was doing anything fishy, or it was just griefing because he ganks the poop out of people.

    A few have been banned for reasons outside of hacking; such as account sharing, racism/bigatory, and ERP. You'd be surprised how many get caught on the last one because of their lewd tells of hate...
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  • Publius_Scipio
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    Now that I'm thinking about it, a PvP streamer was suspended (perma-banned?) while he was live. was back the next day after suspension/ban was rescinded. No idea if he was doing anything fishy, or it was just griefing because he ganks the poop out of people.

    I think I know what you are referring to. That was for "account sharing". Not the hacks everyones been talking about since this past weekend.

    And yes the ban was lifted the next day. There are two sides with differing opinions on that specific ban being lifted and why it was lifted, but again, nothing to do with the hacks.
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    Now that I'm thinking about it, a PvP streamer was suspended (perma-banned?) while he was live. was back the next day after suspension/ban was rescinded. No idea if he was doing anything fishy, or it was just griefing because he ganks the poop out of people.

    I think I know what you are referring to. That was for "account sharing". Not the hacks everyones been talking about since this past weekend.

    And yes the ban was lifted the next day. There are two sides with differing opinions on that specific ban being lifted and why it was lifted, but again, nothing to do with the hacks.

    Not Sypher, this was over the weekend.
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    Why is anyone surprised ZOS isn't taking this seriously? ZOS has known about these issues from day one. ZOS leadership has made the decision to ignore cheating in ESO to the greatest degree possible. It only reacts when the cheating is blatant. And even then, has a history of being lax and inconsistent.

    The only way this will change is if we keep the pressure up. Don't let this go. Tell everyone you know how ZOS operates. Make this a story that someone in the gaming press picks up. If ZOS is going to treat its customers this way, we need to make sure its actions become reputation.

    The fact is Zenimax has the resources to make this right. @ZOS_MattFiror talks about this game as if it's financially successful. There is no excuse for ZOS not to deliver the experience that was sold to us. It is within its power to deliver, but it has chosen not to. This represents very bad business ethics.
    Edited by zyk on June 2, 2016 8:26PM
  • Kilandros
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    zyk wrote: »
    Why is anyone surprised ZOS isn't taking this seriously? ZOS has known about these issues from day one. ZOS leadership has made the decision to ignore cheating in ESO to the greatest degree possible. It only reacts when the cheating is blatant. And even then, has a history of being lax and inconsistent.

    The only way this will change is if we keep the pressure up. Don't let this go. Tell everyone you know how ZOS operates. Make this a story that someone in the gaming press picks up. If ZOS is going to treat its customers this way, we need to make sure its actions become reputation.

    The fact is Zenimax has the resources to make this right. @ZOS_MattFiror talks about this game as if it's financially successful. There is no excuse for ZOS not to deliver the experience that was sold to us. It is within its power to deliver, but it has chosen not to. This represents very bad business ethics.

    I think the fact that @ZOS_MattFiror hasn't bothered to even take the time to personally address this issue is pretty telling. In fact, the only official post was by Jessica and is buried somewhere in this thread. No sticky about what's being done etc.

    They don't care. The cash is in the crown store on console. PC users can GTFO for all ZOS cares.
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  • Publius_Scipio
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    Is what I am reading in other threads about the kid whose character was named after a country in Europe that manufactures three well known luxury automobile brands true? Caught and vaporized, or false?

    And what is the real significance of a "permanent ban"? Can't the "banned" individual simply purchase the game again creating a new account? Or is ZOS somehow actually tracking real individuals and if they are banned they can never play again on a new account?

    Also, what's stopping anyone thats banned to buy someone's account and take it over? (I've heard in that selling/buying accounts is a thing).
    Edited by Publius_Scipio on June 3, 2016 3:43AM
  • moiraleafcull
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    And what is the real significance of a "permanent ban"? Can't the "banned" individual simply purchase the game again creating a new account? Or is ZOS somehow actually tracking real individuals and if they are banned they can never play again on a new account?

    Apparently some companies have it figured out...
    http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-cheaters-are-having-a-hard-time/
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  • Reevster
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    Just got hit by 2 dawnbreakers in death recap, and this guy was hitting friggin hard and fast, he was not emp either, so unless there is a bug that lets you hit with 2 Ult still, this guy was hacking.
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    Reevster wrote: »
    Just got hit by 2 dawnbreakers in death recap, and this guy was hitting friggin hard and fast, he was not emp either, so unless there is a bug that lets you hit with 2 Ult still, this guy was hacking.

    You get one dawnbreaker in death recap for the first hit, and then a second for the dot. If you actually got hit and saw the animation for 2 DBs and there wasn't enough time between them/he didn't kill enough pugs nearby you to get ult back, then yes that's fishy, but that's not what it sounds like.
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Reevster wrote: »
    Just got hit by 2 dawnbreakers in death recap, and this guy was hitting friggin hard and fast, he was not emp either, so unless there is a bug that lets you hit with 2 Ult still, this guy was hacking.

    You get one dawnbreaker in death recap for the first hit, and then a second for the dot. If you actually got hit and saw the animation for 2 DBs and there wasn't enough time between them/he didn't kill enough pugs nearby you to get ult back, then yes that's fishy, but that's not what it sounds like.

    You could be right, but just seems he was a "little" too good. It kinda happened so fast I couldnt tell if he did 2 anim DBers.

    I have 20k physical and spell resist 5 pc heavy and almost 600 cps, with some in Phy resist Mighty? I think it is. Also 2500 crit resist and 37 k hp.

    Anyways maybe he was just really good... or i was just really bad lol, but umm...

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    Edited by Reevster on June 3, 2016 3:24PM
  • Publius_Scipio
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    And what is the real significance of a "permanent ban"? Can't the "banned" individual simply purchase the game again creating a new account? Or is ZOS somehow actually tracking real individuals and if they are banned they can never play again on a new account?

    Apparently some companies have it figured out...
    http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-cheaters-are-having-a-hard-time/

    Interesting. How is Blizzard tracking the actual player?
  • zyk
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    Reevster wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Reevster wrote: »
    Just got hit by 2 dawnbreakers in death recap, and this guy was hitting friggin hard and fast, he was not emp either, so unless there is a bug that lets you hit with 2 Ult still, this guy was hacking.

    You get one dawnbreaker in death recap for the first hit, and then a second for the dot. If you actually got hit and saw the animation for 2 DBs and there wasn't enough time between them/he didn't kill enough pugs nearby you to get ult back, then yes that's fishy, but that's not what it sounds like.

    You could be right, but just seems he was a "little" too good. It kinda happened so fast I couldnt tell if he did 2 anim DBers.

    I have 20k physical and spell resist 5 pc heavy and almost 600 cps, with some in Phy resist Mighty? I think it is. Also 2500 crit resist and 37 k hp.

    Anyways maybe he was just really good... or i was just really bad lol, but umm...

    pk3Gn0T.png

    There is nothing wrong with this recap. Like Zheg noted, you are seeing the initial Dawnbreaker hit as one item and the Dawnbreaker DOT damage as another item. It is not evidence your opponent is cheating.

    If you want to better understand what happens to you in combat, use the Recount addon.

    I mean this in the nicest possible way, but I do not believe you have sufficient knowledge to judge whether another player is cheating. This goes for most players IMO.
  • Reevster
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    zyk wrote: »
    Reevster wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Reevster wrote: »
    Just got hit by 2 dawnbreakers in death recap, and this guy was hitting friggin hard and fast, he was not emp either, so unless there is a bug that lets you hit with 2 Ult still, this guy was hacking.

    You get one dawnbreaker in death recap for the first hit, and then a second for the dot. If you actually got hit and saw the animation for 2 DBs and there wasn't enough time between them/he didn't kill enough pugs nearby you to get ult back, then yes that's fishy, but that's not what it sounds like.

    You could be right, but just seems he was a "little" too good. It kinda happened so fast I couldnt tell if he did 2 anim DBers.

    I have 20k physical and spell resist 5 pc heavy and almost 600 cps, with some in Phy resist Mighty? I think it is. Also 2500 crit resist and 37 k hp.

    Anyways maybe he was just really good... or i was just really bad lol, but umm...

    pk3Gn0T.png

    There is nothing wrong with this recap. Like Zheg noted, you are seeing the initial Dawnbreaker hit as one item and the Dawnbreaker DOT damage as another item. It is not evidence your opponent is cheating.

    If you want to better understand what happens to you in combat, use the Recount addon.

    I mean this in the nicest possible way, but I do not believe you have sufficient knowledge to judge whether another player is cheating. This goes for most players IMO.

    Your right I dont, and frankly I shouldn't have to worry about it, but here we are, CE runing rampant for months maybe years, go figure.
  • zyk
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    Reevster wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Reevster wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Reevster wrote: »
    Just got hit by 2 dawnbreakers in death recap, and this guy was hitting friggin hard and fast, he was not emp either, so unless there is a bug that lets you hit with 2 Ult still, this guy was hacking.

    You get one dawnbreaker in death recap for the first hit, and then a second for the dot. If you actually got hit and saw the animation for 2 DBs and there wasn't enough time between them/he didn't kill enough pugs nearby you to get ult back, then yes that's fishy, but that's not what it sounds like.

    You could be right, but just seems he was a "little" too good. It kinda happened so fast I couldnt tell if he did 2 anim DBers.

    I have 20k physical and spell resist 5 pc heavy and almost 600 cps, with some in Phy resist Mighty? I think it is. Also 2500 crit resist and 37 k hp.

    Anyways maybe he was just really good... or i was just really bad lol, but umm...

    pk3Gn0T.png

    There is nothing wrong with this recap. Like Zheg noted, you are seeing the initial Dawnbreaker hit as one item and the Dawnbreaker DOT damage as another item. It is not evidence your opponent is cheating.

    If you want to better understand what happens to you in combat, use the Recount addon.

    I mean this in the nicest possible way, but I do not believe you have sufficient knowledge to judge whether another player is cheating. This goes for most players IMO.

    Your right I dont, and frankly I shouldn't have to worry about it, but here we are, CE runing rampant for months maybe years, go figure.

    Then don't worry about it. It is possible ESO will never be a secure game. In the short term, it definitely cannot be. Let the deaths roll off you and have fun where you can find it. Keep the pressure on ZOS, but give fellow players the benefit of the doubt unless you can prove wrong-doing.

    If you can't do that, I'd find a new game. Most games have cheaters, but some publishers/admins take it seriously and make good efforts to ban them.

    When I realized ESO was probably very insecure, I decided to keep playing anyway. But I don't take it as seriously as I otherwise might have. I think the reason I've played for so long is because when PVP becomes annoying, I take a long break. Sometimes months. When I return, I accept the faults of the game and enjoy it for what it is.
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    And what is the real significance of a "permanent ban"? Can't the "banned" individual simply purchase the game again creating a new account? Or is ZOS somehow actually tracking real individuals and if they are banned they can never play again on a new account?

    Apparently some companies have it figured out...
    http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-cheaters-are-having-a-hard-time/

    That's an awesome example of what has to be done to cheaters.
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  • moiraleafcull
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    And what is the real significance of a "permanent ban"? Can't the "banned" individual simply purchase the game again creating a new account? Or is ZOS somehow actually tracking real individuals and if they are banned they can never play again on a new account?

    Apparently some companies have it figured out...
    http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-cheaters-are-having-a-hard-time/

    Interesting. How is Blizzard tracking the actual player?

    Not an expert on the subject by any stretch of the imagination but if I had to guess from the particular example cited, two things apparently remained unchanged, OS and ISP, either could have information that might be used.

    Equally interesting, entertaining is seeing the "Wall of Shame" they have posted on their China site.




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  • frozywozy
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    zyk wrote: »
    Reevster wrote: »
    zyk wrote: »
    Reevster wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Reevster wrote: »
    Just got hit by 2 dawnbreakers in death recap, and this guy was hitting friggin hard and fast, he was not emp either, so unless there is a bug that lets you hit with 2 Ult still, this guy was hacking.

    You get one dawnbreaker in death recap for the first hit, and then a second for the dot. If you actually got hit and saw the animation for 2 DBs and there wasn't enough time between them/he didn't kill enough pugs nearby you to get ult back, then yes that's fishy, but that's not what it sounds like.

    You could be right, but just seems he was a "little" too good. It kinda happened so fast I couldnt tell if he did 2 anim DBers.

    I have 20k physical and spell resist 5 pc heavy and almost 600 cps, with some in Phy resist Mighty? I think it is. Also 2500 crit resist and 37 k hp.

    Anyways maybe he was just really good... or i was just really bad lol, but umm...

    pk3Gn0T.png

    There is nothing wrong with this recap. Like Zheg noted, you are seeing the initial Dawnbreaker hit as one item and the Dawnbreaker DOT damage as another item. It is not evidence your opponent is cheating.

    If you want to better understand what happens to you in combat, use the Recount addon.

    I mean this in the nicest possible way, but I do not believe you have sufficient knowledge to judge whether another player is cheating. This goes for most players IMO.

    Your right I dont, and frankly I shouldn't have to worry about it, but here we are, CE runing rampant for months maybe years, go figure.

    Then don't worry about it. It is possible ESO will never be a secure game. In the short term, it definitely cannot be. Let the deaths roll off you and have fun where you can find it. Keep the pressure on ZOS, but give fellow players the benefit of the doubt unless you can prove wrong-doing.

    If you can't do that, I'd find a new game. Most games have cheaters, but some publishers/admins take it seriously and make good efforts to ban them.

    When I realized ESO was probably very insecure, I decided to keep playing anyway. But I don't take it as seriously as I otherwise might have. I think the reason I've played for so long is because when PVP becomes annoying, I take a long break. Sometimes months. When I return, I accept the faults of the game and enjoy it for what it is.

    Wise advice here.
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  • Zheg
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    And what is the real significance of a "permanent ban"? Can't the "banned" individual simply purchase the game again creating a new account? Or is ZOS somehow actually tracking real individuals and if they are banned they can never play again on a new account?

    Apparently some companies have it figured out...
    http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-cheaters-are-having-a-hard-time/

    Interesting. How is Blizzard tracking the actual player?

    Not an expert on the subject by any stretch of the imagination but if I had to guess from the particular example cited, two things apparently remained unchanged, OS and ISP, either could have information that might be used.

    Equally interesting, entertaining is seeing the "Wall of Shame" they have posted on their China site.




    The problem with a wall of shame is that ZOS would have to put all of themselves up there after fumbling a quality game for over 2 years.
  • kevlarto_ESO
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    All I can say is what a difference since the cheat engine was brought to light, players that used to be hard to kill now die like and average player, I am really disappointed so many people appear to have been using the cheat engine or some other form of cheating, smart cheaters I am sure just jacked up the regen enough to look good, but there is no legit build in this game that will let you stand there and take punishment from 8 to 15 players and you not take damage for more than a few seconds.

    We killed this guy the other day and he kept coming back to the same place died normal, then he came back and was in god mode, the only explanation turned his cheat back on, so there are a few still slipping under the radar, but again I am just amazed how different things are like night and day.

    I hope ZOS's security team stays on this and gets rid of as many cheaters as possible.
  • Refuse2GrowUp
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    Robbmrp wrote: »
    As those of you in this thread know, over this past weekend we saw an influx in players using third-party software tools to cheat in ESO and reports about this behavior. We posted yesterday that we’ve adjusted our automatic anti-cheat systems in response, and have taken action against every account we’ve found cheating, including permanent bans for 43 accounts with more are under investigation.

    Our actions this weekend were part of a larger ongoing effort to remove cheaters from ESO. With today's patch, we included some server-side adjustments to address the cheat behavior, and will continue to monitor and action against those players who are caught cheating.

    Once again, we want to thank everyone who helped us identify the players who were using cheats.

    I didn't hear about this until Tuesday when I came back and read the forums as I play on Azura and things felt like something was up but we never saw endless meteors coming down or endless casting of spells.

    Are you going to reinstate those accounts if any of the people that were specifically doing this to get Zenimax to finally do something about it? People report players and hacks all the time, this isn't new. I'm sure that people are getting fed up with nothing being done so I can understand their frustration and do some of the things they did over the past weekend. That doesn't mean that everyone that used the third party addon had been all along.

    Before you "Permaban" anyone, you should research their logs and see how long that third party addon was being used. Anyone that had it active for more than a couple of days deserves a permaban. Anyone with a shorter time in use should be reconsidered. I personally don't know of anyone that got banned so this doesn't affect me directly. I feel for those that did get banned who were only trying to bring Zenimax out do finally do something about it.

    Also keep in mind, this "hack weekend" came about because of the way Zenimax designed their game. If there had been greater security from the start, we wouldn't have had issues like this for the past two years.There are people who've been telling Zenimax about their client side loop holes for the past two years with nothing done about it.

    Maybe now, after this huge fiasco, something good will actually come of it and Zenimax will make the necessary changes to the game so this can't EVER happen again.

    Excuses, excuses, excuses...tisk tisk.

    Nope, ban them all...permanently.

    Look, it is likely true that this has been going on for a long time. And, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom 's statement even seems to corroborate that fact that it has indeed been a known issue ("over this past weekend we saw an influx in players using third-party software tools to cheat in ESO" with influx thus implying 'more than normal'). However, that does not excuses the use of cheats, and opens the door for anyone to say they merely did so as Robin Hood, when in fact many probably used the cheat simply because that is when they learned about it. Ban them all, let God sort them out~

    @Zos - while I am not walking away from the game as I will still enjoy it for what it is, this fiasco has highlighted your inability and lack of genuine intent to manage the game. Others have claimed to have known about this hack for a LONG time and claim to have reported it, and players using it. Why was no action taken much sooner? Why are cheaters still in the game? Why does it take such an endemic to force action? I played this game competitively to date. Now it will likely merely be an enjoyable pastime that gets me by until something better, and better managed, comes along. I hope you change my mind, but that is doubtful. Shame on you all
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  • Rune_Relic
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    And what is the real significance of a "permanent ban"? Can't the "banned" individual simply purchase the game again creating a new account? Or is ZOS somehow actually tracking real individuals and if they are banned they can never play again on a new account?

    Apparently some companies have it figured out...
    http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-cheaters-are-having-a-hard-time/

    Interesting. How is Blizzard tracking the actual player?

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    frozywozy wrote: »
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    Just got hit by 2 dawnbreakers in death recap, and this guy was hitting friggin hard and fast, he was not emp either, so unless there is a bug that lets you hit with 2 Ult still, this guy was hacking.

    You get one dawnbreaker in death recap for the first hit, and then a second for the dot. If you actually got hit and saw the animation for 2 DBs and there wasn't enough time between them/he didn't kill enough pugs nearby you to get ult back, then yes that's fishy, but that's not what it sounds like.

    You could be right, but just seems he was a "little" too good. It kinda happened so fast I couldnt tell if he did 2 anim DBers.

    I have 20k physical and spell resist 5 pc heavy and almost 600 cps, with some in Phy resist Mighty? I think it is. Also 2500 crit resist and 37 k hp.

    Anyways maybe he was just really good... or i was just really bad lol, but umm...

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    There is nothing wrong with this recap. Like Zheg noted, you are seeing the initial Dawnbreaker hit as one item and the Dawnbreaker DOT damage as another item. It is not evidence your opponent is cheating.

    If you want to better understand what happens to you in combat, use the Recount addon.

    I mean this in the nicest possible way, but I do not believe you have sufficient knowledge to judge whether another player is cheating. This goes for most players IMO.

    Your right I dont, and frankly I shouldn't have to worry about it, but here we are, CE runing rampant for months maybe years, go figure.

    Then don't worry about it. It is possible ESO will never be a secure game. In the short term, it definitely cannot be. Let the deaths roll off you and have fun where you can find it. Keep the pressure on ZOS, but give fellow players the benefit of the doubt unless you can prove wrong-doing.

    If you can't do that, I'd find a new game. Most games have cheaters, but some publishers/admins take it seriously and make good efforts to ban them.

    When I realized ESO was probably very insecure, I decided to keep playing anyway. But I don't take it as seriously as I otherwise might have. I think the reason I've played for so long is because when PVP becomes annoying, I take a long break. Sometimes months. When I return, I accept the faults of the game and enjoy it for what it is.

    Wise advice here.

    If everyone took that attitude....none of the cheaters would ever have been banned.
    Turning a blind eye and sticking your hand in the sand may help YOU.....it doesnt help the game for EVERYONE else.
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    All I can say is what a difference since the cheat engine was brought to light, players that used to be hard to kill now die like and average player, I am really disappointed so many people appear to have been using the cheat engine or some other form of cheating, smart cheaters I am sure just jacked up the regen enough to look good, but there is no legit build in this game that will let you stand there and take punishment from 8 to 15 players and you not take damage for more than a few seconds.

    We killed this guy the other day and he kept coming back to the same place died normal, then he came back and was in god mode, the only explanation turned his cheat back on, so there are a few still slipping under the radar, but again I am just amazed how different things are like night and day.

    I hope ZOS's security team stays on this and gets rid of as many cheaters as possible.

    Just a small note on automatically assuming someone is cheating. There are several abilities with damage mitigation components that have been really inconsistent in the most recent patch. I've had corrosive armor work fine at times and then at others get hit for 3-5k attacks 2 seconds after activating the skill - with a cap on incoming damage at 3%, it would equate to an HP pool well over 100,000. While I don't know that this is rampant, just keep in mind that if someone appears to have inconsistent performance, it seems every bit as if not more likely to be caused be buggy skills in a buggy game than by a cheat program or whatever.
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  • Pomaikai
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    As those of you in this thread know, over this past weekend we saw an influx in players using third-party software tools to cheat in ESO and reports about this behavior. We posted yesterday that we’ve adjusted our automatic anti-cheat systems in response, and have taken action against every account we’ve found cheating, including permanent bans for 43 accounts with more are under investigation.

    Our actions this weekend were part of a larger ongoing effort to remove cheaters from ESO. With today's patch, we included some server-side adjustments to address the cheat behavior, and will continue to monitor and action against those players who are caught cheating.

    Once again, we want to thank everyone who helped us identify the players who were using cheats.

    Thank you for cutting and pasting your previous statement from before. This is like going into a bar and seeing a sign that says "Free Beer Tomorrow". It's always tomorrow, and the beer is never free.

    What are you DOING about the cheating?

    What is your official policy on cheating and exploiting?

    What are the punishments for doing so?

    What are you doing about the Leaderboards filled with cheaters?

    What are you doing to make us, your paying customers, trust you and your game again?

    When the heck will it be tomorrow?!?!?!?!?
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    Any updates yet ?

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    Just a non-update update where ZOS tried to sweep this stinking pile of a problem under the carpet in the hopes that we'd forget about it. They even buried their non-response for crying out loud!
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