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Shameful Metoer cheats from a top EP guild NA Trueflame

  • themdogesbite
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    Bfish22090 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lord-Stien wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Every single wanna-be 1vXer like Kodi and Reyals have just been exposed. It all makes sense now.
    Anyways, whats games are yall going to he playing now?

    Kodi is absolutely not a hacker. Just because he can outplay you does not make him a cheater.

    Sometimes Kodi's abilities to negate all income dmg and burst down well geared tanks with good skill and or to be able to dodge 15 + incoming attack at once ..sometimes begs for scrutiny .

    He does not negate all incoming damage. He has 20% dodge chance like every other person in the game with shuffle. He is just very skilled at recognizing what is coming at him and reacting appropriately. Kodi heals with vigor on cooldown. He keeps up every buff and pops rally when needed. He purifies every dot, he dodges every charged heavy attack and wb. He can burst down other players because he is skilled with understanding the mechanisms of skills and when to use them for damage, resource sustain, and escape. You can see this in his videos. He is an excellent player. Do not try and diminish that because you do not understand or perform at that level.

    and his wrecking blow spam is just a little faster than normal.

    Give us a break.

    How about you give us a break? Do you have anything to back your claims up with? Kodi have plenty of videos you can watch and learn something from.

    If Kodi isn't clean i'll eat corn, and i hate eating corn.

    @FENGRUSH said it very well on his stream last night

    alot of good players like kodi will be accused of cheating now..

    It's always been the case though, i've had people whispering me daily that they and their entire guilds would report me and my guildmates until we get banned. Though luck for them though since we´re all still here.

    I don't get any whispers like that anymore though, im to bad theese days. :'(
    :]
  • Master_Kas
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    Bfish22090 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lord-Stien wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Every single wanna-be 1vXer like Kodi and Reyals have just been exposed. It all makes sense now.
    Anyways, whats games are yall going to he playing now?

    Kodi is absolutely not a hacker. Just because he can outplay you does not make him a cheater.

    Sometimes Kodi's abilities to negate all income dmg and burst down well geared tanks with good skill and or to be able to dodge 15 + incoming attack at once ..sometimes begs for scrutiny .

    He does not negate all incoming damage. He has 20% dodge chance like every other person in the game with shuffle. He is just very skilled at recognizing what is coming at him and reacting appropriately. Kodi heals with vigor on cooldown. He keeps up every buff and pops rally when needed. He purifies every dot, he dodges every charged heavy attack and wb. He can burst down other players because he is skilled with understanding the mechanisms of skills and when to use them for damage, resource sustain, and escape. You can see this in his videos. He is an excellent player. Do not try and diminish that because you do not understand or perform at that level.

    and his wrecking blow spam is just a little faster than normal.

    Give us a break.

    How about you give us a break? Do you have anything to back your claims up with? Kodi have plenty of videos you can watch and learn something from.

    If Kodi isn't clean i'll eat corn, and i hate eating corn.

    @FENGRUSH said it very well on his stream last night

    alot of good players like kodi will be accused of cheating now..

    It's always been the case though, i've had people whispering me daily that they and their entire guilds would report me and my guildmates until we get banned. Though luck for them though since we´re all still here.

    I don't get any whispers like that anymore though, im to bad theese days. :'(

    It's easy, pick a siege that you like, and mash that left click button :trollface:
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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Bfish22090 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lord-Stien wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Every single wanna-be 1vXer like Kodi and Reyals have just been exposed. It all makes sense now.
    Anyways, whats games are yall going to he playing now?

    Kodi is absolutely not a hacker. Just because he can outplay you does not make him a cheater.

    Sometimes Kodi's abilities to negate all income dmg and burst down well geared tanks with good skill and or to be able to dodge 15 + incoming attack at once ..sometimes begs for scrutiny .

    He does not negate all incoming damage. He has 20% dodge chance like every other person in the game with shuffle. He is just very skilled at recognizing what is coming at him and reacting appropriately. Kodi heals with vigor on cooldown. He keeps up every buff and pops rally when needed. He purifies every dot, he dodges every charged heavy attack and wb. He can burst down other players because he is skilled with understanding the mechanisms of skills and when to use them for damage, resource sustain, and escape. You can see this in his videos. He is an excellent player. Do not try and diminish that because you do not understand or perform at that level.

    and his wrecking blow spam is just a little faster than normal.

    Give us a break.

    How about you give us a break? Do you have anything to back your claims up with? Kodi have plenty of videos you can watch and learn something from.

    If Kodi isn't clean i'll eat corn, and i hate eating corn.

    @FENGRUSH said it very well on his stream last night

    alot of good players like kodi will be accused of cheating now..

    It's always been the case though, i've had people whispering me daily that they and their entire guilds would report me and my guildmates until we get banned. Though luck for them though since we´re all still here.

    I don't get any whispers like that anymore though, im to bad theese days. :'(

    It's easy, pick a siege that you like, and mash that left click button :trollface:

    I thought you bought them all :trollface:
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  • Master_Kas
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Bfish22090 wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lord-Stien wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Every single wanna-be 1vXer like Kodi and Reyals have just been exposed. It all makes sense now.
    Anyways, whats games are yall going to he playing now?

    Kodi is absolutely not a hacker. Just because he can outplay you does not make him a cheater.

    Sometimes Kodi's abilities to negate all income dmg and burst down well geared tanks with good skill and or to be able to dodge 15 + incoming attack at once ..sometimes begs for scrutiny .

    He does not negate all incoming damage. He has 20% dodge chance like every other person in the game with shuffle. He is just very skilled at recognizing what is coming at him and reacting appropriately. Kodi heals with vigor on cooldown. He keeps up every buff and pops rally when needed. He purifies every dot, he dodges every charged heavy attack and wb. He can burst down other players because he is skilled with understanding the mechanisms of skills and when to use them for damage, resource sustain, and escape. You can see this in his videos. He is an excellent player. Do not try and diminish that because you do not understand or perform at that level.

    and his wrecking blow spam is just a little faster than normal.

    Give us a break.

    How about you give us a break? Do you have anything to back your claims up with? Kodi have plenty of videos you can watch and learn something from.

    If Kodi isn't clean i'll eat corn, and i hate eating corn.

    @FENGRUSH said it very well on his stream last night

    alot of good players like kodi will be accused of cheating now..

    It's always been the case though, i've had people whispering me daily that they and their entire guilds would report me and my guildmates until we get banned. Though luck for them though since we´re all still here.

    I don't get any whispers like that anymore though, im to bad theese days. :'(

    It's easy, pick a siege that you like, and mash that left click button :trollface:

    I thought you bought them all :trollface:

    Only the Pact ones. I have about 20 cold stone trebs and 10-15 cold fire ballistas on my EP char, but those sadly can't be used on AD :disappointed:
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    More people sent to permaban prison ? That's a dammshame ...

    Don't drop the the soap .

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  • OrphanHelgen
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    mention names, and they wont do it again. If you get punished for mention exploiters names, but the exploiters dont get punished, then... ... I dont know how to finish my sentence
    PC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact


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  • rfennell_ESO
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    mention names, and they wont do it again. If you get punished for mention exploiters names, but the exploiters dont get punished, then... ... I dont know how to finish my sentence

    They will declare their innocence as "proven".
  • Joy_Division
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    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Your attitude is disgraceful.
  • Ghostbane
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    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Your attitude is disgraceful.

    Ignore him, he stands in red circles.
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  • Anazasi
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    While we'd prefer you all send these videos to use via a PM, we are sending everything (video links, the link to the thread, and character names some did send privately) to our Support team. Thanks, guys. :) If you run into anyone else who you suspect is using external cheat programs, please send us video of the proof and a short explanation.

    Jessica. I know its standard procedure for ZOS in these situations to go dark regarding results of actions against players, but in this case, because your game is currently vulnerable to an easily configured and readily available third party program...

    You need to make a statement to the community, stickied and visible to all, that anyone using this is going to be permabanned, and put some fear into the hearts of the people who will see a slap on the wrist behind closed doors response, and say "hey i can get away with it"

    You gotta do this, because its already spreading like wildfire in Cyrodiil, and examples need to be made to curb it until your engineering/programming team can secure the client vs the hack itself.

    Course, one of the guys using it is in YOUR guild no?

    Not anymore.

    Its rather funny. Not No More, translates to, because he was caught or gave out the secret. I find it very very skeptical that this player being a long time member of the guild in question regarding rampant cheating was just caught by both the players and ZOS because of his own actions. Everyone knows a cheater will always cheat because it is the path of least resistance to victory. What I cant seem to grasp is if you are so keen on spotting hacks that this player must have just randomly slipped your observation for so long. You can not hide behind the guild kick placid, it has as many holes in it as your constant propaganda train. You entire guild was aware of his actions and more than likely participated in them as well. This is the condition of EP. My advice to you is simple. Get down off the cross, someone else may need the wood.
  • Kilandros
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    Jules wrote: »
    God_flakes wrote: »
    The really disappointing part of this whole affair is that I have always discouraged people in my groups from blaming "Cheating" when they encounter really "skilled" players..... the last few days has caused me to reevaluate my stance.
    Kinda sad that all will be suspected now, no matter what Zos changes.

    The PVP community is already prone to a fairly high level of toxicity, this will only make worse.

    Thanks for finally killing PVP guys... GG

    So would you have rather kept on believing a lie and encouraging your players to try to reach some unattainable standard that was based on a lie? I am hopeful this whole debacle will FIX pvp. How is pvp killed because of this? This is a step in the right direction and I for one am grateful to Zaz and Fengrush for finally forcing Zos to take real and meaningful action against the cheating cheaters most of us have suspected all along!!

    And LOLOLOLOL@ Jule's commentary about Kodi "doing everything right every single time in every single instance always"...please. Just please.

    Making excuses for poor gameplay will always result in poor gameplay. That is why you are who you are.

    PS: And he doesn't do everything right in every circumstance. He messes up, dies and gets aggravated all the time, just like everyone in Cyrodiil. But he learns from it. And perhaps, if it's so unbelievable to you, maybe you should consider the level of skill with which you operate. He may just have better luck at maneuvering in combat since he can actually see his character and isn't neck deep in a zerg like you.

    Kodi's legit. I've fought him dozens of times in the open field on my templar and there's never been anything sketchy about it. His strengths are he has great timing and can LoS you around just about anything. But I've killed/been killed by him enough times that I'd be really surprised if he was cheating.

    Good players gonna play good, ya dig?
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  • rfennell_ESO
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    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Your attitude is disgraceful.

    Damn right it is, mostly because the targets are more disgraceful.

    We all know there was funny business a going on. Some want to defend "their friends" because the logic of my friend deserves a pass is so overwhelming.

    Do I think mass reporting someone is going to get anyone banned? Not really, otherwise Fengrush would be banned on day 1 of it.... not because he hacks (I don't think he does at all), but because he would probably win the report to report battle with little K right behind him.
  • Caza99
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    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Looks like somebody got rekt one too many times.
    Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any saltier, you come along.
    Kodi is a brilliant player, that's all there is to it. There's no hacking, cheating, whatever. The worst thing about this whole cheat engine situation is that potatoes like you are going to call out players like Kodi for cheating when there is nothing shady going on.
    Also...
    L2P.

    PC NA - @MercerESO
  •  Jules
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    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Oh me too now, lol okay. Not even the slightest idea of who you are, but like @Joy_Division said, your attitude is disgraceful and it's likely your gameplay is equally inferior.

    To those of you who defended K, @Kilandros , @themdogesbite, @Caza99 , @Mako1132 , thank you. I recognize that because we are friends and play together often my defense can be sullied by how close I am to the situation. I greatly respect your willingness to provide insight from an outside perspective.
    Edited by Jules on May 31, 2016 2:55PM
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  • Makkir
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    This game is trash.

    No, the players who were never spanked as a kid who take advantage of these exploits are TRASH
  • themdogesbite
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    Makkir wrote: »
    This game is trash.

    No, the players who were never spanked as a kid who take advantage of these exploits are TRASH

    The game is pretty trash too though.
    :]
  • Lokey0024
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    To accuse or defend someone without certainty and proof is foolish. This is the internet and noone cares how foolish they look because they Dont have to look you in the eye. Now If you watched this person play irl or on a stream and noticed things then that's one thing, but getting your ass kicked and calling hax just makes you look the part.
  • rfennell_ESO
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    Caza99 wrote: »
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    Kodi is a brilliant player, that's all there is to it.

    Wait, spamming wrecking blow (faster than possible to boot) is brilliance?

    Or is it the accidentally dodging all attacks part that's brilliant?

    I bet the roll dodging 10 times in a row without ever running out of stamina part is the most brilliant.

    The running off into the distance faster than everyone else can run is sheer brilliance I bet.
    Jules wrote: »
    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Oh me too now, lol okay. Not even the slightest idea of who you are, but like @Joy_Division said, your attitude is disgraceful and it's likely your gameplay is equally inferior.

    To those of you who defended K, @Kilandros , @themdogesbite, @Caza99 , @Mako1132 , thank you. I recognize that because we are friends and play together often my defense can be sullied by how close I am to the situation. I greatly respect your willingness to provide insight from an outside perspective.

    So, anyone else get a kick out of this one?
  • Zheg
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    Hopefully ZOS is able to tailor their monitoring to be able to determine if people are in fact using cheat engine, but under the radar. It's one thing to raise a red flag of suspicion, it's another to jump to guilty. Let's see what ZOS says this week. As for blindly defending friends, it's admirable, but perhaps not the best course of action. Of just the few people I officially know were banned, I'm sure they had many friends, including the people making strong defenses on this thread.

    As to the permarolling, anyone making use of unchained can accomplish this every 5 seconds. It's something I try to do on my healer since I don't have stam to spare, and a stam build could do far more than I could with it.

    We don't need to McCarthy this though and accuse everyone of being a commie. Don't worry, soon enough we'll all go back to accusing each other of zerging, destroying campaigns, being baddies, and spamming X as the latest OP skill.
  • themdogesbite
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    Caza99 wrote: »
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    Kodi is a brilliant player, that's all there is to it.

    Wait, spamming wrecking blow (faster than possible to boot) is brilliance?

    Or is it the accidentally dodging all attacks part that's brilliant?

    I bet the roll dodging 10 times in a row without ever running out of stamina part is the most brilliant.

    The running off into the distance faster than everyone else can run is sheer brilliance I bet.
    Jules wrote: »
    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Oh me too now, lol okay. Not even the slightest idea of who you are, but like @Joy_Division said, your attitude is disgraceful and it's likely your gameplay is equally inferior.

    To those of you who defended K, @Kilandros , @themdogesbite, @Caza99 , @Mako1132 , thank you. I recognize that because we are friends and play together often my defense can be sullied by how close I am to the situation. I greatly respect your willingness to provide insight from an outside perspective.

    So, anyone else get a kick out of this one?

    Dude, you´re not makeing sense at all, your posts reek of salt and envy right now. If you want to accuse someone with your sad little witch hunt how about you provide some evidence to support your claims? Slandering like this is just sad and pathetic.

    Stop with your arguments from ignorance and provide something to back your claims. If not, please be quiet and go away.

    Thank you.
    :]
  • rfennell_ESO
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    Caza99 wrote: »
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    Kodi is a brilliant player, that's all there is to it.

    Wait, spamming wrecking blow (faster than possible to boot) is brilliance?

    Or is it the accidentally dodging all attacks part that's brilliant?

    I bet the roll dodging 10 times in a row without ever running out of stamina part is the most brilliant.

    The running off into the distance faster than everyone else can run is sheer brilliance I bet.
    Jules wrote: »
    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Oh me too now, lol okay. Not even the slightest idea of who you are, but like @Joy_Division said, your attitude is disgraceful and it's likely your gameplay is equally inferior.

    To those of you who defended K, @Kilandros , @themdogesbite, @Caza99 , @Mako1132 , thank you. I recognize that because we are friends and play together often my defense can be sullied by how close I am to the situation. I greatly respect your willingness to provide insight from an outside perspective.

    So, anyone else get a kick out of this one?

    Dude, you´re not makeing sense at all, your posts reek of salt and envy right now. If you want to accuse someone with your sad little witch hunt how about you provide some evidence to support your claims? Slandering like this is just sad and pathetic.

    Stop with your arguments from ignorance and provide something to back your claims. If not, please be quiet and go away.

    Thank you.

    How about I don't.

    I love how I'm making no sense to some people. When it explains a lot of problems in pvp many many people have witnessed.

    The worst part of it all is every that was up to no good and ends up sliding by will be considered exonerated. That's the worst part of it.
  • themdogesbite
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    Caza99 wrote: »
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    Kodi is a brilliant player, that's all there is to it.

    Wait, spamming wrecking blow (faster than possible to boot) is brilliance?

    Or is it the accidentally dodging all attacks part that's brilliant?

    I bet the roll dodging 10 times in a row without ever running out of stamina part is the most brilliant.

    The running off into the distance faster than everyone else can run is sheer brilliance I bet.
    Jules wrote: »
    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Oh me too now, lol okay. Not even the slightest idea of who you are, but like @Joy_Division said, your attitude is disgraceful and it's likely your gameplay is equally inferior.

    To those of you who defended K, @Kilandros , @themdogesbite, @Caza99 , @Mako1132 , thank you. I recognize that because we are friends and play together often my defense can be sullied by how close I am to the situation. I greatly respect your willingness to provide insight from an outside perspective.

    So, anyone else get a kick out of this one?

    Dude, you´re not makeing sense at all, your posts reek of salt and envy right now. If you want to accuse someone with your sad little witch hunt how about you provide some evidence to support your claims? Slandering like this is just sad and pathetic.

    Stop with your arguments from ignorance and provide something to back your claims. If not, please be quiet and go away.

    Thank you.

    How about I don't.

    I love how I'm making no sense to some people. When it explains a lot of problems in pvp many many people have witnessed.

    The worst part of it all is every that was up to no good and ends up sliding by will be considered exonerated. That's the worst part of it.

    Then stop comming with arguments of ignorance and be quiet, the only thing you are provideing right now is comical value.
    :]
  • HeroOfNone
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    Accusations are best left to ZOS to investigate and address, despite what you might think about them they are a neutral 3rd party ro the game and less likely to call "cheater!" On someone because they got killed one too many times. This is the reason the naming & shaming rule is good, to prevent baseless accusation without hard evidence. That said, I don't think it should protect players caught cheating from public scrutiny.

    As for cheaters not being good players or visa versa, as a prior admin from counter strike and natural selection servers I can tell you that it's more common than you'd think. Good players would come into a server and establish a name for themselves. Once established they would test the waters with minor hacks during hours they thought no one was looking, using subtle exploits. A few of them that would take the time to appeal their ban and explain why they did it, it typically went "I just wanted to have a little bit of fun", "I just wanted to test it", and "well the rest of the players are using cheats too". I only had one guy cut through the *** excuses and give me what I consider the truth "I wanted to have every possible advantage to win"

    Regardless of the reason, it's told me that no one is above using hacks or cheats. It's just more obvious with bad players. You should always be critical of players and fill out a report of anyone suspicious, especially the good ones because it will be that much harder to spot.

    Fill out a customer service ticket if you're suspicious or if your have hard evidence. Worst thing is ZOS ignores you, which you PVPers should be used to by now. =)
    Edited by HeroOfNone on May 31, 2016 5:43PM
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  •  Jules
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    Caza99 wrote: »
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    Kodi is a brilliant player, that's all there is to it.

    Wait, spamming wrecking blow (faster than possible to boot) is brilliance?

    Or is it the accidentally dodging all attacks part that's brilliant?

    I bet the roll dodging 10 times in a row without ever running out of stamina part is the most brilliant.

    The running off into the distance faster than everyone else can run is sheer brilliance I bet.
    Jules wrote: »
    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Oh me too now, lol okay. Not even the slightest idea of who you are, but like @Joy_Division said, your attitude is disgraceful and it's likely your gameplay is equally inferior.

    To those of you who defended K, @Kilandros , @themdogesbite, @Caza99 , @Mako1132 , thank you. I recognize that because we are friends and play together often my defense can be sullied by how close I am to the situation. I greatly respect your willingness to provide insight from an outside perspective.

    So, anyone else get a kick out of this one?

    Show me a video of kodi dodge rolling 10 times *in a row* and not running out of stam and I'll give you all of my gold and mats.

    Oh wait, that's right, you can't. Because no player with a brain would ever roll dodge ten times in a row to avoid damage. And anyone that would roll dodge ten times in a row would be OOS.

    Hate to say it bro but l2p.
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  • Mako1132
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    Caza99 wrote: »
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    Kodi is a brilliant player, that's all there is to it.

    Wait, spamming wrecking blow (faster than possible to boot) is brilliance?

    Or is it the accidentally dodging all attacks part that's brilliant?

    I bet the roll dodging 10 times in a row without ever running out of stamina part is the most brilliant.

    The running off into the distance faster than everyone else can run is sheer brilliance I bet.
    Jules wrote: »
    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Oh me too now, lol okay. Not even the slightest idea of who you are, but like @Joy_Division said, your attitude is disgraceful and it's likely your gameplay is equally inferior.

    To those of you who defended K, @Kilandros , @themdogesbite, @Caza99 , @Mako1132 , thank you. I recognize that because we are friends and play together often my defense can be sullied by how close I am to the situation. I greatly respect your willingness to provide insight from an outside perspective.

    So, anyone else get a kick out of this one?

    Dude, you´re not makeing sense at all, your posts reek of salt and envy right now. If you want to accuse someone with your sad little witch hunt how about you provide some evidence to support your claims? Slandering like this is just sad and pathetic.

    Stop with your arguments from ignorance and provide something to back your claims. If not, please be quiet and go away.

    Thank you.

    How about I don't.

    I love how I'm making no sense to some people. When it explains a lot of problems in pvp many many people have witnessed.

    The worst part of it all is every that was up to no good and ends up sliding by will be considered exonerated. That's the worst part of it.

    I've never played with him and only talked to him occasionally. However, I've played against him many, many times over the last year and everything he did in those fights was legit. Very clearly a case of salt overload here.
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    Pointing fingers at each other and levying accusations and responding with "git gud", "l2p", etc is getting us no where.

    While you folks are all pointing the finger at each other and ripping each other apart, the bigger picture is being lost.

    This game is so buggy, from buggy skills like Shuffle, Purifying Ritual cleansing Crystal Frags, to DK flying through the air if Eclipsed and Taloned, and now this cheating.

    this game is a buggy and total disaster.

    right now the game is unplayable, and will be unplayable for the considerable future.(Solo PVE is the only thing playable and 4/12 man dungeons) Its going to take some time to put in some real working anti-cheat countermeasures, in the meantime we are stuck with a broken product, a product that turns us all against each other, a product you can never be sure if your adversary is cheating or not. Im not even sure if i even want to play anymore :(

    This kills the game on so many levels.

    While all this is going on, we are going to continue at each others thoats? If thats the case the community will kill them game off themselves :(


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    It's a witch hunt. Burn the witch!
  • HeroOfNone
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    Mako1132 wrote: »
    Caza99 wrote: »
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    Kodi is a brilliant player, that's all there is to it.

    Wait, spamming wrecking blow (faster than possible to boot) is brilliance?

    Or is it the accidentally dodging all attacks part that's brilliant?

    I bet the roll dodging 10 times in a row without ever running out of stamina part is the most brilliant.

    The running off into the distance faster than everyone else can run is sheer brilliance I bet.
    Jules wrote: »
    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Oh me too now, lol okay. Not even the slightest idea of who you are, but like @Joy_Division said, your attitude is disgraceful and it's likely your gameplay is equally inferior.

    To those of you who defended K, @Kilandros , @themdogesbite, @Caza99 , @Mako1132 , thank you. I recognize that because we are friends and play together often my defense can be sullied by how close I am to the situation. I greatly respect your willingness to provide insight from an outside perspective.

    So, anyone else get a kick out of this one?

    Dude, you´re not makeing sense at all, your posts reek of salt and envy right now. If you want to accuse someone with your sad little witch hunt how about you provide some evidence to support your claims? Slandering like this is just sad and pathetic.

    Stop with your arguments from ignorance and provide something to back your claims. If not, please be quiet and go away.

    Thank you.

    How about I don't.

    I love how I'm making no sense to some people. When it explains a lot of problems in pvp many many people have witnessed.

    The worst part of it all is every that was up to no good and ends up sliding by will be considered exonerated. That's the worst part of it.

    I've never played with him and only talked to him occasionally. However, I've played against him many, many times over the last year and everything he did in those fights was legit. Very clearly a case of salt overload here.

    Every fight is its own incident and one fight has little bearing on another. Good players can still cheat some days, and them turn them off and fight normal another. Don't get caught in a trap thinking one accusation makes all of them true either.

    If someone suspects another player is cheating, best to collect evidence and report. Anecdotal evidence isn't enough though, videos, screen shots, specific time frames are necessary if you expect immediate action. Otherwise all ZOS can do is observe on the off chance anything fishy happens again.
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  • rfennell_ESO
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    Jules wrote: »
    Caza99 wrote: »
    '
    Kodi is a brilliant player, that's all there is to it.

    Wait, spamming wrecking blow (faster than possible to boot) is brilliance?

    Or is it the accidentally dodging all attacks part that's brilliant?

    I bet the roll dodging 10 times in a row without ever running out of stamina part is the most brilliant.

    The running off into the distance faster than everyone else can run is sheer brilliance I bet.
    Jules wrote: »
    Ok a guy who somehow dodges attacks from 15 players at a time for duration, has a wrecking blow that seems faster than possible, a guy who can outrun you when you are a max speed, and who NEVER runs out of resources....

    That's legit!

    He's probably the most egregious of you all with it.

    I know and have seen the bs from so many of you, all talking like you are innocent. Just because you and K survived the day 1 purging doesn't mean you are safe.

    Oh me too now, lol okay. Not even the slightest idea of who you are, but like @Joy_Division said, your attitude is disgraceful and it's likely your gameplay is equally inferior.

    To those of you who defended K, @Kilandros , @themdogesbite, @Caza99 , @Mako1132 , thank you. I recognize that because we are friends and play together often my defense can be sullied by how close I am to the situation. I greatly respect your willingness to provide insight from an outside perspective.

    So, anyone else get a kick out of this one?

    Show me a video of kodi dodge rolling 10 times *in a row* and not running out of stam and I'll give you all of my gold and mats.

    Oh wait, that's right, you can't. Because no player with a brain would ever roll dodge ten times in a row to avoid damage. And anyone that would roll dodge ten times in a row would be OOS.

    Hate to say it bro but l2p.

    I should post the private message I got regarding you here.

    But that would be both telling and denied on top of being something I wouldn't do. But anyways, blind trust of people is a weird thing. Weird as in usually wrong.

    Like I said earlier the worst part of all this won't be all the people gone for a week while they level up a new account, but all the people on the right side of the bubble of bans by ZOS that will just claim it's proof they are innocent.

    I don't have an ego to feed, a youtube channel to promote or a twitch handle in need of subs. I only have words, if you don't like them, that's just too freaking bad. But, not having an agenda that revolves about me me me is something many of you lack.

    It's like some of you don't get that it was trivially easy to just cheat at everything due to what's been revealed. How you still have blind trust in people you don't really know is laughable.

    P.S. calling me a baddie, l2p, salt orientated or the commiserate get gud means very little.
  • Laggus
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    And it's already started....

    "He beat me? He must have cheated."

    Was always going to go down this road unfortunately. That's a part of of problem of this whole fiasco. Trust and reputation from players will be hard earned until there's some kind of way ZOS can put this particular type of cheat to bed. It's not an easy task for sure but it is their task.

    Some players are just better than others and talented and naturally inclined towards gaming. There needs to be no doubt though and I don't envy ZOS in trying to achieve that.
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