VMA has ruined this game for me

Salganis

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

I wandered into VMA for the first time this weekend.
First mob killed me in three hits. Immediately decided it was not worth the effort. lol

Man That is the reason you dont diserve to win That weapond. Is not for bad players !!
First time i got the ARENA Took me a lot of time and now i can make it very fast.
And i play as a templar not a sorcer or nb
Acept you miss a lot of skill and dont bleat the game for that

spawn_to_kill

i feel the same way its soo stressful makes me break things in my house i get so wound up allthe time and we arent even guaranteed to get what we want when or if we manage to get through i want is a 2h maelstom i have bow staff sword and board so i am forced to go through all of this to complete my build, zenimax dont seem to care, As a pvper with the dlc we should be able to get the weapons from rewards of the worthy like the old master weapons id actually have fun grinding it, people can say L2p all they want i dont enjoy doing it never will please sort this out zos its really not fair or people not able to or dont want to keep doing it over and over and over to get nothing or something we dont need

Oreyn_Bearclaw

NateAssassin wrote: »

itzeffect wrote: »

NateAssassin wrote: »

Never will even attempt, I'd rather keep using my crafted staff, the fact I can 100% choose the trait and style is nice.

I'd rather not slave away grinding vMA of all places, for an ugly as *** staff, that only gives me 100 sd.

its 180 and i feel you but for end of game gear crafted stuff just wont do and these weps and needed in most cases

Lol I don't use a vMA staff and I can pull 25k dps on my magsorc lol, you don't need them at all.

And you would probably pull 30k with a staff. The best sorcs are pulling close to 40k on VMOL bosses. Again, might not matter to you. For people competing for leaderboard spots, it certainly does. In VMOL, the difference between 25k and 30k on average is the difference between killing the final boss on the first lunar phase vs having to do an add phase and a second lunar phase with twice the adds.

Justice31st

VMA is still incredibly unbalanced. For example, the completion difficulty between a magicka Sorcerer and a magicka Templar. And to make matters worse, consoles have no buff timer addons.

mtwiggz

Tryxus wrote: »

Looks like ZOS' attempt to keep players playing the game with their RNG is having the opposite effect

This is the exact issue with RNG based games with large loot tables. Sure RNG keeps players playing, but for how long? A lot of players just want to get that special item and continue on doing what they want to do. Not spend countless hours in the same exact dungeon farming the same exact mobs over and over again.

For me personally I've spent many of hours in vMA with nothing to show for it. All I want is a 2H, at this point I don't even care what the trait is. I've actually changed my build to accept the fact that I will probably never have one before the life of this game expires.

itzeffect

Justice31st wrote: »

VMA is still incredibly unbalanced. For example, the completion difficulty between a magicka Sorcerer and a magicka Templar. And to make matters worse, consoles have no buff timer addons.

ok everyone says this like magic sorcs are the easiest to beat it an granted yes the shields make some points easier if you are forced to keep shielding instead of pumping out dps then you will die and fast. i would say healing off of your dps is much much easier in most cases (Don't attack this comment because you don't agree, maybe i just play a *** sorc but yeah)

OrphanHelgen

I got my first dagger drop today.
Defending.

itzeffect

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I got my first dagger drop today.
Defending.

not the best trait but nice!

Mojmir

Autolycus wrote: »

You know what is ruining this game for me? The performance.

I can't even go into vMA anymore because guaranteed by arena 5 the game crashes or I lag so hard it causes a death or a disconnect (and every time I disconnect it resets my instance by the time I get back into the game, so I have to restart). For the record, I've beaten it multiple times and have a couple of the weapons I need, but not all.

I spent the last 3 months (since TG came out) working directly with ZOS support (over 10 different representatives), my ISP and the phone company who owns the phone lines/servers between me and ZOS's server. I ran dozens of traceroutes from people all over the country with different ISPs. All of the data I collected is solid proof that the issue is on ZOS's side.

Of course, I gave all of this information to ZOS. Whether or not they use it to make their game better, who knows? But I'm not stepping foot into vMA again until I can play this game for an hour without being forced out of it. Even trials a complete joke. Two weeks ago on PC the weekly was HRC. I took my guild through it, and we had a disconnect and 2 major lag issues before we even got to the first boss (and anyone who's done HRC knows that the first boss is a hop, skip and a jump away from the front door).

this *** right here^^^^ and for the umpteenth time,it isnt just the arena,its cyrodiil,sewers,and pledges!!!

andryuhav

Lags and bugs are, most certianly, a major problem, but - If you learn the mechanics and adapt your build, you will complete VMA. And you will get better doing it over and over again.
Honesly - i have 350+ms ping that has spikes to over a 1k, and i am farming VMA with ease without any shields whatsoever (nope, not a sorc).
VMA is the exact experience that will make you way better than you were before. Now i can easily solo almost every normal dungeon (v16 scaled) and some bosses in vet dungeons (v16 scaled).
Main point here - ragequit won't make you better, while time and effort - will.

itzeffect

andryuhav wrote: »

Lags and bugs are, most certianly, a major problem, but - If you learn the mechanics and adapt your build, you will complete VMA. And you will get better doing it over and over again.
Honesly - i have 350+ms ping that has spikes to over a 1k, and i am farming VMA with ease without any shields whatsoever (nope, not a sorc).
VMA is the exact experience that will make you way better than you were before. Now i can easily solo almost every normal dungeon (v16 scaled) and some bosses in vet dungeons (v16 scaled).
Main point here - ragequit won't make you better, while time and effort - will.

no one is denying this but the time it takes to learn, most people just do not find it worth it

Wollust

itzeffect wrote: »

Justice31st wrote: »

VMA is still incredibly unbalanced. For example, the completion difficulty between a magicka Sorcerer and a magicka Templar. And to make matters worse, consoles have no buff timer addons.

ok everyone says this like magic sorcs are the easiest to beat it an granted yes the shields make some points easier if you are forced to keep shielding instead of pumping out dps then you will die and fast. i would say healing off of your dps is much much easier in most cases (Don't attack this comment because you don't agree, maybe i just play a *** sorc but yeah)

Meh, I think magNB is the easiest class to do it. Just outheal all damage while you DPS. Awesome.

itzeffect

Wollust wrote: »

itzeffect wrote: »

Justice31st wrote: »

VMA is still incredibly unbalanced. For example, the completion difficulty between a magicka Sorcerer and a magicka Templar. And to make matters worse, consoles have no buff timer addons.

ok everyone says this like magic sorcs are the easiest to beat it an granted yes the shields make some points easier if you are forced to keep shielding instead of pumping out dps then you will die and fast. i would say healing off of your dps is much much easier in most cases (Don't attack this comment because you don't agree, maybe i just play a *** sorc but yeah)

Meh, I think magNB is the easiest class to do it. Just outheal all damage while you DPS. Awesome.

yeah i really want to try it on a magik NB

Oreyn_Bearclaw

itzeffect wrote: »

Justice31st wrote: »

VMA is still incredibly unbalanced. For example, the completion difficulty between a magicka Sorcerer and a magicka Templar. And to make matters worse, consoles have no buff timer addons.

ok everyone says this like magic sorcs are the easiest to beat it an granted yes the shields make some points easier if you are forced to keep shielding instead of pumping out dps then you will die and fast. i would say healing off of your dps is much much easier in most cases (Don't attack this comment because you don't agree, maybe i just play a *** sorc but yeah)

The only place sorcs have it easier is certain boss fights. Boss fights (other than perhaps the last fight) are not what make this arena hard. They are very mechanical, and once you know the fight, they really arent that bad.

NB is probably the easiest class to clear, because you can stand still and just DPS. It is also the hardest class to get on the baords, which makes sense. Sorc is probably number 2 because of their shield, but as many have suggested, if you are spamming shields you arent DPSing. Other than the last boss, I actually found Templar to be surprisingly easy through most of the stages. I think the hardest rounds are in stage 5, simply because of the number of adds. They have a cone aoe as their main spam skill that heals like crazy. They can also press one button and be at full health in an instant. Round 5 is a joke on a templar. DKs probably have the toughest time in there, at least in my experience.

Sorcs are going to be bottom of the barrel next patch, at least for magic. Everyone will now have access to a powerful shield, and power surge is getting a bigger nerf than hardened ward. Their only advantage left at this point is overload, which is really only useful for bosses.

itzeffect wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I got my first dagger drop today.
Defending.

not the best trait but nice!

I think you mean decon fodder. I got two so far in defending. I have the one hand axe in every trait, so might be running those for a while.

Riggsy

itzeffect wrote: »

i have been at it for well over a week now and on stage 9 boss fight, it is annoying but i will get it done. this journey has made me really hate playing though and has ruined my char for me... i have to take breaks every 10/15 mins doing vma to deal with ZOS *** me with *** game mechanics... i just want the 2H!... not another reason to pack up and leave this piece of BS they call a working MMO #ThisIsNotWorthIt

And you're playing it as a sorc lololol. If you really want to feel pain try it as a DK...

sirrmattus

Vma is the only thing in my life I put so much effort into but received no reward. Sad part is that this is a game. It's supposed to be fun and rewarding.

dimensional

People whining about VMA ruined this game for me.

kadar

dimensional wrote: »

People whining about VMA ruined this game for me.

code65536

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I think you mean decon fodder. I got two so far in defending. I have the one hand axe in every trait, so might be running those for a while.

The bonus from the vMA DW is so ridiculous that it'd be worth it even if it had no trait at all. If all I had were a pair of defending dagger or axes, I'd still use them.

itzeffect

Riggsy wrote: »

itzeffect wrote: »

i have been at it for well over a week now and on stage 9 boss fight, it is annoying but i will get it done. this journey has made me really hate playing though and has ruined my char for me... i have to take breaks every 10/15 mins doing vma to deal with ZOS *** me with *** game mechanics... i just want the 2H!... not another reason to pack up and leave this piece of BS they call a working MMO #ThisIsNotWorthIt

And you're playing it as a sorc lololol. If you really want to feel pain try it as a DK...

yeah i might just play a *** sorc but i feel for DK's

RANKK7

itzeffect wrote: »

i have been at it for well over a week now and on stage 9 boss fight, it is annoying but i will get it done. this journey has made me really hate playing though and has ruined my char for me... i have to take breaks every 10/15 mins doing vma to deal with ZOS *** me with *** game mechanics... i just want the 2H!... not another reason to pack up and leave this piece of BS they call a working MMO #ThisIsNotWorthIt

Same here, final boss spoiled for me not only the vma but the entire game, ton of gold on repair (they didn't even cared lowering the repair cost in that disgusting place), lot of gold for pots too.

Hempyre

Ya, I hate it too, always swearing...

I run it a couple/three times a week on the weapon farm. Nothing yet...

Took me a while to find my groove, keep plugging.

Watch a few vids, pick a class that works.

Lord_Eomer

I am tired farming lighting sharpen and i now hate vma after 130 runs!

MCBIZZLE300

itzeffect wrote: »

i have been at it for well over a week now and on stage 9 boss fight, it is annoying but i will get it done. this journey has made me really hate playing though and has ruined my char for me... i have to take breaks every 10/15 mins doing vma to deal with ZOS *** me with *** game mechanics... i just want the 2H!... not another reason to pack up and leave this piece of BS they call a working MMO #ThisIsNotWorthIt

I completed VMA for someone using remote play the other day, dont now what platform your on but its worth it if you have someone you trust thats good in VMA. The lag makes it harder but I enjoyed it more, he was 345cp.

mocap

Maybe disabling "bound on pickup" can solve it? So players can sell VMA items they don't need?

skyhawk002

Tryxus wrote: »

Looks like ZOS' attempt to keep players playing the game with their RNG is having the opposite effect

I have heard more stories about people quitting ESO over vMA than those that say [bleep] it! Let's keep farming. 100s of hours for this RNG staff is insanity but normal according to ZoS. I don't feel a sense of achievement anymore but rather a sense of luck.

I believe even if everyone got what they wanted after their first complete, they would still continue to enjoy the game for quite sometime. Zos's actions have the intended opposite effect

strikeback1247

I love me some necro'd VMA threads.

supaskrub

Wollust wrote: »

L2p issue I guess?

I suppose you crashed right through it on your first attempt, i dare to say on that very first attempt you even got the coveted "flawless" title... take a tip: If you have nothing constructive to add to OP's thread then keep your fingers away from the keyboard, Have a nice day!

GrigorijMalahevich

supaskrub wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

L2p issue I guess?

I suppose you crashed right through it on your first attempt, i dare to say on that very first attempt you even got the coveted "flawless" title... take a tip: If you have nothing constructive to add to OP's thread then keep your fingers away from the keyboard, Have a nice day!

L2P issue

LadyDestiny

Wollust wrote: »

L2p issue I guess?

There is always that one person......:/