PTS Patch Notes v2.4.4

Flaminir

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

d8rmir wrote: »

ИВАН_ВОДКА wrote: »

and when you will get only 30% of exp from mobs after 200CP

False. http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/05/10/dark-brotherhood-deep-dive-what-veteran-rank-removal-means-for-your-character

right now on PTS you get same exp for CP40 or CP160 mobs

When it hits live the XP gain system will see you as a maximum of CP160... however many CP you actually have.....

SO you will get full XP for mobs of about CP120 or higher.

SO Training IS totally useless for all these hard to get end game sets I'm afraid.

praxis

This is why the hard core player base here gets frustrated with rng. Adding prosperous and training (and sturdy in non-heavy sets) just makes an already ridiculously tedious grind worse. Literally no one who plays this game and has the capability to grind those dungeons wants to run those dungeons potentially hundreds of times to maybe scrape together a 5 piece set with non-combat traits.

Also, what happened to impen?

redspecter23

I'll echo what some others are saying. PLEASE do not add training and prosperous to gear in WGT/ICP. It is not desired on end game gear at all... ever... by anyone. I can almost understand sturdy (on heavy) but the other two have no place on endgame gear tables. Find the person in the office responsible for suggesting that change and rapidly apply a frozen trout across their face until sanity sets in.

Diluting loot tables in an already intense grind is not a good idea. I joke to my guildmates about my pile of Molag Kena helms I've accumulated while farming SPC gear. I've got over 25 helms and only 3 divines SPC items and I'm positive others have been grinding longer than I have.

Wollust

praxis wrote: »

This is why the hard core player base here gets frustrated with rng. Adding prosperous and training (and sturdy in non-heavy sets) just makes an already ridiculously tedious grind worse. Literally no one who plays this game and has the capability to grind those dungeons wants to run those dungeons potentially hundreds of times to maybe scrape together a 5 piece set with non-combat traits.

Also, what happened to impen?

Come on ZoS, you like to give us a grind, let's trade:
You take away prosperous and training and add impen instead.
That's at least a useful trait for a big part of your game.
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

CP5

Really hope the team is ready to re-balance poisons once they hit live. Something like that can't just be ignored for months until the next dlc/balance patch comes out.

And about guard. Awesome that it no longer acts as suicide for the user, but a shame about it having to be on both bars. I think the time of toggles being on both bars is kind of done, how many toggles are there and how many of them do people really feel would be gamebreaking if stacked on a back bar?

And I will acknowledge it, good ww's got black fur finally, been a long time coming.

Emma_Overload

What happened to that buff to Surge that @Wrobel mentioned on ESO Live?

Elsonso

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

What happened to that buff to Surge that @Wrobel mentioned on ESO Live?

I thought that was one of the ones that was not in this patch but will be in Live?

NBrookus

Set pieces obtained from the Trophy Vaults in Imperial City Prison and White-Gold Tower can now drop with Sturdy, Training, or Prosperous traits, in addition to the previous Infused, Divines, Well-Fitted, and Reinforced traits.

On the bright side, there's something worse than getting light reinforced now.

Please, do NOT include Training and Prosperus in the loot tables for these dungeons. They shouldn't drop on ANY of the high end set gear.

Kas

is no-impen on the sets intended? maybe a mistake in the patch notes?

WuffyCerulei

No character copy?? Still have my old pts character.

Flaminir

Kas wrote: »

is no-impen on the sets intended? maybe a mistake in the patch notes?

@Kas You realise that comment now means they can say that the community asked for even more traits to be added!

XaXa

lordrichter wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

What happened to that buff to Surge that @Wrobel mentioned on ESO Live?

I thought that was one of the ones that was not in this patch but will be in Live?

Thats how i took the comment. It will be appearing in live but not on this PTS. I figure it will most likely be in the form of an increase to the heals

Although i still think power surge should be reverted to its old status and keep crit surge as it is on pts. Everyones happy then.

SpAEkus

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

No character copy?? Still have my old pts character.

Same here, still my last 2.4.3 templates

EDIT: Looks like they made a last minute change to the NA re-copy post.

Ajaxduo

The new beserker skin is awesome!

OrdainedFaun

The offensive medium boxes from elite vendors in cyrodiil are only dropping well-fitted trait on armor. Not sure if this is intended as offensive heavy are dropping all kinds of traits on armor as are defensive medium.

Khaos_Bane

It's amazing how many people get so excited over black fur.

Khaos_Bane

MissBizz wrote: »

I will also voice my opinion that no one wants training or prosperous on that gear. Seriously. Please?

Agreed, ZoS does know how to make their RNG more frustrating though.

GriM_728

Surge didn't get fixed? Well time to work on my stam dk screw being a stam sorc anymore.

Firerock2

This is a great list ZOS in which you addressed almost none of our main concerns. Get rid of your crappy poisons and fix blocking ffs.

willymchilybily

ZOS Logic. we have improved weapon and armor traits removing the "useless" traits...therefore we can have armor come in all these new traits as well as the old.

Playerbase logic. well least those terrible traits are marginally less terrible, ill still get some benefit from it if i have to use it. but it'll never be BIS....wait why did you add these suboptimal traits to all the armor sets I'm trying to farm!!!

Personofsecrets

be careful what you wish for

CasNation

Hey, so on Guard being a toggle now (basically)...

Doesn't this change go against your design philosophy of REMOVING these kinds of abilities from the game? Guard was about to be a very interesting and useful ability that would see a lot of use in both PvE and PvP play. But, by requiring it to be slotted on bars, you have made it bad again, for the same reason that pets are bad: opportunity cost. I understand that this change brings the ability more in line with other toggle-toggle - like abilities, but I was really hoping that guard would be the pioneering example set out to abolish toggles forever. As it stands, my bars are too crunched as it is already, and I was really looking forward to using the ability, even with the no stam regen part.

Please reconsider reverting guard to allow it to remain active even when swapping bars, and reinstate the no stam regen penalty to compensate for that power. A lot of people were really excited for this abilities utility, but now you need to give up too much utility (an extra slot) to make it worth it.

XaXa

GriM_728 wrote: »

Surge didn't get fixed? Well time to work on my stam dk screw being a stam sorc anymore.

They already said that this incremental wouldnt have any class skill updates.

Surge is expected to get a buff to the flat value before DB goes live.

Darlon

Adding those traits to those dungeon sets is one of the stupidest things I have seen recently... And that says something...

CP5

Still not liking how block cost reduction is in the tree that gives better loot drops and better trade rates. I mean come on, that is just laughable.

ИВАН_ВОДКА

i like Training because i am a grinder

so it will helm me to earn CP faster than before

Bdawwg

No changes about the poisons then eh? Sticking with the 60% until we need a hot fix. Bold plan.

Glaiceana

Ajaxduo wrote: »

The new beserker skin is awesome!

Thanks for posting a screenshot, as far as I know you are the first one to do so!

Khamira

What? No character copy?!

Dis One is sad :<

I even bought few stacks of Rubedo Leather to test things on the PTS, and now I can only test things on Live... :<

XaXa

Bdawwg wrote: »

No changes about the poisons then eh? Sticking with the 60% until we need a hot fix. Bold plan.