Why North American truelflame EP, WHY??

Minno

Zheg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

@Minno I see your hp and class, but do not see invigorating drain on your bar. You cannot properly post a troll pic if you do not have the proper troll skill slotted. It's on your back bar, right? right?

Backbar always with Ice-staff for extra glue.

I thought you had become a proper trollplar. Disappointment.

I is experimenting

Darnathian

Satiar wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

That 8 months you had off were awful for health of the game CN, VE, Vanzans crew etc for DC had round the clock coverage and zerged the crap out of the map.

Not VE mind you.

The hatred is probably from that.

Mmmmmhm yeah we killed alot of reds.

Heard you homing to AD to kill reds and blues!

Darnathian

Flake wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

That 8 months you had off were awful for health of the game CN, VE, Vanzans crew etc for DC had round the clock coverage and zerged the crap out of the map.

Not VE mind you.

The hatred is probably from that.

How Vanzan's crew is a zerg baffles me. 15 people max if he's lucky lol

They left AD made it more lop sided when dc was winning. Claiming they wanted good fights. The only other force on that time zone is that asian crew.

To answer your question an organized 15-20 man that time of the day cant be stopped. so that many against ad pugs may not be zerging but wont be stopped.

it was a deadly combo of round the clock coverage by DC.

Daveheart

Darnathian wrote: »

Flake wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

That 8 months you had off were awful for health of the game CN, VE, Vanzans crew etc for DC had round the clock coverage and zerged the crap out of the map.

Not VE mind you.

The hatred is probably from that.

How Vanzan's crew is a zerg baffles me. 15 people max if he's lucky lol

They left AD made it more lop sided when dc was winning. Claiming they wanted good fights. The only other force on that time zone is that asian crew.

To answer your question an organized 15-20 man that time of the day cant be stopped. so that many against ad pugs may not be zerging but wont be stopped.

it was a deadly combo of round the clock coverage by DC.

To be fair at the time he started that, DC was really strong but would just plummet in (competitive) population shortly after his group started up. On the rare nights that the organized guild groups stayed on long, yes, it furthered imbalance. However, they usually filled a gap in our population at a time when PM was just starting to turn into what it is now (and seemed to really pick up steam after prime time) and when lolimage wasrunning some pretty large M12 groups.

Chori

This whole thread is laughable, don't know what's more funny if the people that said that didn't stack raids or the people that needs 72 EP at aleswell lagging the entire server out, super entertaining for being a weekend thread lol.

maxjapank

Darnathian wrote: »

Flake wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

That 8 months you had off were awful for health of the game CN, VE, Vanzans crew etc for DC had round the clock coverage and zerged the crap out of the map.

Not VE mind you.

The hatred is probably from that.

How Vanzan's crew is a zerg baffles me. 15 people max if he's lucky lol

They left AD made it more lop sided when dc was winning. Claiming they wanted good fights. The only other force on that time zone is that asian crew.

To answer your question an organized 15-20 man that time of the day cant be stopped. so that many against ad pugs may not be zerging but wont be stopped.

it was a deadly combo of round the clock coverage by DC.

You are misinformed, mate. First off, we don't engage in forum banter. So this will be my last post here. But at the time, AD was too populated during Oceanic time zone. So much so that blue and red weren't logging on. There were no fights to be found. Blue was nonexistent during Oceanic. Red had RAM, maybe the Asian crew you're referring to. And yellow had m12 and us. The change to blue was to even out the Oceanic population. To have fun. We don't really care much about winning a campaign, sorry to say. We just didn't want to log in and find no one to fight and nothing to do.

We cannot help what goes on in other guilds and other factions. But as of now, Vanzam's group, which is called TKG, by the way, is the only organized group for blue during Oceanic time zone. If we weren't there, it is likely that blue would be down to one bar every night. And no disrespect to my blue brothers and sisters. You all are the best of the best.

If you have a feud with our guild, I'm sorry. We are just looking to have fun. You kill me. I kill you. Just having fun.

relaxed83

Pact Militia officers certainly have quite a few kills on DC officers as well

Zheg

relaxed83 wrote: »

Pact Militia officers certainly have quite a few kills on DC officers as well

Can confirm, I die less than steve. Also worth mentioning I have more kills than the ones shown here, and I'm a healer o.O ... dat OP heavy resto attack spec yo.

Satiar

Ah man do i need to show mine? I think i have over 200 on Nikolai now.

Also daaaaamn that 16 avenge kills.

Daveheart

Satiar wrote: »

Ah man do i need to show mine? I think i have over 200 on Nikolai now.

Mine are all spread out over multiple toons.

Rohamad_Ali

relaxed83 wrote: »

Pact Militia officers certainly have quite a few kills on DC officers as well

Hey alright ! There's one list I didn't make .

Kaserai

Astanphaeus wrote: »

You had our scroll, surely you can't be that stupid.

Yes, we had your scroll. You took it from us after a 45 minute siege on glademist. You won. Half of our pop logged off after that battle because it was 2AM and we all felt satisfied with the epic battle. Instead of leaving us alone and chewing on yellow for a while (yellow was working their way up to chal), Sara and her entourage of guildmasters simultaneously seiged warden and Rayles and then took BOTH our scrolls.

It was 2AM. You were still pop capped. It was a SLAUGHTER. Where is the fun in that? Was it pleasurable to obliterate a faction that had literally a hand full of defenders trying to defend TWO different locations from a faction that was still throwing its ENTIRE pop capped population at it at 2AM?

Darnathian

Kaserai wrote: »

Astanphaeus wrote: »

You had our scroll, surely you can't be that stupid.

Yes, we had your scroll. You took it from us after a 45 minute siege on glademist. You won. Half of our pop logged off after that battle because it was 2AM and we all felt satisfied with the epic battle. Instead of leaving us alone and chewing on yellow for a while (yellow was working their way up to chal), Sara and her entourage of guildmasters simultaneously seiged warden and Rayles and then took BOTH our scrolls.

It was 2AM. You were still pop capped. It was a SLAUGHTER. Where is the fun in that? Was it pleasurable to obliterate a faction that had literally a hand full of defenders trying to defend TWO different locations from a faction that was still throwing its ENTIRE pop capped population at it at 2AM?

Tou dont know Sara then. I would be shocked if that were true.

All i ever hear her coordinating is bowl breaks and more pew pew. lol

ParaNostram

We all know EP can only ever win through numbers. 1 DC player is worth 5 EP any day in Cyrodiil.

Mojmir

ParaNostram wrote: »

We all know EP can only ever win through numbers. 1 DC player is worth 50 AP any day in Cyrodiil.

fixed

Minno

relaxed83 wrote: »

Pact Militia officers certainly have quite a few kills on DC officers as well

Poor Koz/Aalana.

bitaken

Personally, I would love to see some of these smash smash EP come to Azuras.

Two raids of EP came to Azuras last night - they had 3 bars of pop at one time and it was REALLY fun for a while.

Then things like this happened:

http://plays.tv/video/57410fa8472d812044/bitaken-exploding-13-ep-once-leaves-us-clean-up

Minno

bitaken wrote: »

Personally, I would love to see some of these smash smash EP come to Azuras.

Two raids of EP came to Azuras last night - they had 3 bars of pop at one time and it was REALLY fun for a while.

Then things like this happened:

http://plays.tv/video/57410fa8472d812044/bitaken-exploding-13-ep-once-leaves-us-clean-up

EP are AP cattle confirmed.

Crispen_Longbow

relaxed83 wrote: »

Pact Militia officers certainly have quite a few kills on DC officers as well

Nice of you to join the party Zed. Yes you are another fine example of hiding in the back casting your Inevitable Detonation

Zed Game Play


So lets consult Codex and Kill Counter for Zed Vs Crispen.

Codex


Killcounter



Bravo Pact Militia! This is the best you have? Enjoy not being Farmed by VE for the next few weeks while VE is on break.

Ghost-Shot

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

relaxed83 wrote: »

Pact Militia officers certainly have quite a few kills on DC officers as well

Nice of you to join the party Zed. Yes you are another fine example of hiding in the back casting your Inevitable Detonation

Zed Game Play


So lets consult Codex and Kill Counter for Zed Vs Crispen.

Codex


Killcounter



Bravo Pact Militia! This is the best you have? Enjoy not being Farmed by VE for the next few weeks while VE is on break.

I think its time to gather up some of my KC screenshots if that's what we're doing here, I think @Satiar has some really good numbers too...

Rohamad_Ali

I don't get it . Every time I read VE is on break , I just don't get it . An I hear it a lot . How many breaks can one guild take ?!

Should change the name to RE . (Recreational Enforcement)

Ghost-Shot

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I don't get it . Every time I read VE is on break , I just don't get it . An I hear it a lot . How many breaks can one guild take ?!

Should change the name to RE . (Recreational Enforcement)

We are just done with the current state of pvp, most nights its like pulling teeth to get a group together so we are just taking some time off till next patch and hoping that it is at least a little bit more fun to play.

Rohamad_Ali

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I don't get it . Every time I read VE is on break , I just don't get it . An I hear it a lot . How many breaks can one guild take ?!

Should change the name to RE . (Recreational Enforcement)

We are just done with the current state of pvp, most nights its like pulling teeth to get a group together so we are just taking some time off till next patch and hoping that it is at least a little bit more fun to play.

Understandable . I purposely kept My guys off TF and in Azura , though and just ran with 4 in TF because I was under the impression "you guys got this" , from a earlier conversation .

Wow . Best run on sentence ever !

Ghost-Shot

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I don't get it . Every time I read VE is on break , I just don't get it . An I hear it a lot . How many breaks can one guild take ?!

Should change the name to RE . (Recreational Enforcement)

We are just done with the current state of pvp, most nights its like pulling teeth to get a group together so we are just taking some time off till next patch and hoping that it is at least a little bit more fun to play.

Understandable . I purposely kept My guys off TF and in Azura , though and just ran with 4 in TF because I was under the impression "you guys got this" , from a earlier conversation .

Wow . Best run on sentence ever !

Yeah it was pretty much under control, and still is at prime time(seriously its embarrassing how far we push them back in prime time), but the night/morning cap is strong these days.

Rohamad_Ali

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I don't get it . Every time I read VE is on break , I just don't get it . An I hear it a lot . How many breaks can one guild take ?!

Should change the name to RE . (Recreational Enforcement)

We are just done with the current state of pvp, most nights its like pulling teeth to get a group together so we are just taking some time off till next patch and hoping that it is at least a little bit more fun to play.

Understandable . I purposely kept My guys off TF and in Azura , though and just ran with 4 in TF because I was under the impression "you guys got this" , from a earlier conversation .

Wow . Best run on sentence ever !

Yeah it was pretty much under control, and still is at prime time(seriously its embarrassing how far we push them back in prime time), but the night/morning cap is strong these days.

I agree . We do charge the map hard after dinner . But everyday that I'm over helping on Azura (which is way too easy) , I see that map flip red again . I hope that other thread Art of War brings the balance . I'll stay mostly on Azura still unless it doesn't work for DC .

Zheg

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I don't get it . Every time I read VE is on break , I just don't get it . An I hear it a lot . How many breaks can one guild take ?!

Should change the name to RE . (Recreational Enforcement)

We are just done with the current state of pvp, most nights its like pulling teeth to get a group together so we are just taking some time off till next patch and hoping that it is at least a little bit more fun to play.

Understandable . I purposely kept My guys off TF and in Azura , though and just ran with 4 in TF because I was under the impression "you guys got this" , from a earlier conversation .

Wow . Best run on sentence ever !

Raid leads get burnt out (it's been just me and steve), the bombard meta takes years off my life every time I play in it, the load screens and crashes during large fights sometimes mean that I spend 75% of my game time trying to get back into the game (as the effing group lead), and like clockwork you'll log in and have to dethrone a day-capped red emp and take back some or all scrolls. Then all of blue and all of red will fight each other between ales and chalman until blue doesn't have enough players online any more and red will mass and push.

If you want to fight groups, the entire strategy has been to prox up and ult dump, then scatter out to avoid the enemy doing the same. It's been that way for over a year, though it comes in slightly different flavors. It's boring; it's stale. I can take a full raid to an objective and have zone chat curse the guild because we didn't go where the one person in zone insisted we go, I can take a group of 8 to an objective alone without any other blues around and be told I'm stacking multiple raids by opponents. Breaks are healthy, and if truth be told, the majority of us anticipated that we'd be playing CU beta at this point in time. Few if any of us are happy to be playing through another Trueflame cycle, but unfortunately there is no adequate replacement yet.

zyk

Satiar wrote: »

_Crow wrote: »

Opps! I forgot to ask permission from VE if we were allowed to push DC past a certain time. If you could send me a schedule on what times we are allowed to push, what scrolls we can take, how many players we can stack, and which faction to go after that would be amazing so we can make sure this doesn't happen again. Thanks

There's a difference between map control and strangling the life out of a campaign with numbers and anti competitive play.

If you don't care to learn the difference and want to behave like mindless pugs swarming everything that's the wrong color, that's how people will think of you.

You guys have the potential to be a decent guild. But at this point your defining trait is patience in waiting for competition to log off

When DC had the population/organization advantage on the main campaign (AS) during 2.2, VE and other DC guilds were generally very good about this.

Personally, I am less disappointed about Pact Militia on TF and more disappointed in the more experienced EP who profit from it. I suppose after 1.5, I should expect it from you guys though. I don't think most of you are interested in decent competition or "good fights."

Minno

Zheg wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I don't get it . Every time I read VE is on break , I just don't get it . An I hear it a lot . How many breaks can one guild take ?!

Should change the name to RE . (Recreational Enforcement)

We are just done with the current state of pvp, most nights its like pulling teeth to get a group together so we are just taking some time off till next patch and hoping that it is at least a little bit more fun to play.

Understandable . I purposely kept My guys off TF and in Azura , though and just ran with 4 in TF because I was under the impression "you guys got this" , from a earlier conversation .

Wow . Best run on sentence ever !

Raid leads get burnt out (it's been just me and steve), the bombard meta takes years off my life every time I play in it, the load screens and crashes during large fights sometimes mean that I spend 75% of my game time trying to get back into the game (as the effing group lead), and like clockwork you'll log in and have to dethrone a day-capped red emp and take back some or all scrolls. Then all of blue and all of red will fight each other between ales and chalman until blue doesn't have enough players online any more and red will mass and push.

If you want to fight groups, the entire strategy has been to prox up and ult dump, then scatter out to avoid the enemy doing the same. It's been that way for over a year, though it comes in slightly different flavors. It's boring; it's stale. I can take a full raid to an objective and have zone chat curse the guild because we didn't go where the one person in zone insisted we go, I can take a group of 8 to an objective alone without any other blues around and be told I'm stacking multiple raids by opponents. Breaks are healthy, and if truth be told, the majority of us anticipated that we'd be playing CU beta at this point in time. Few if any of us are happy to be playing through another Trueflame cycle, but unfortunately there is no adequate replacement yet.

During my month break I came to that realization and despite the obvious issues with the game, there is no replacement for the pvp gameplay.

Rohamad_Ali

Zheg wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

I don't get it . Every time I read VE is on break , I just don't get it . An I hear it a lot . How many breaks can one guild take ?!

Should change the name to RE . (Recreational Enforcement)

We are just done with the current state of pvp, most nights its like pulling teeth to get a group together so we are just taking some time off till next patch and hoping that it is at least a little bit more fun to play.

Understandable . I purposely kept My guys off TF and in Azura , though and just ran with 4 in TF because I was under the impression "you guys got this" , from a earlier conversation .

Wow . Best run on sentence ever !

Raid leads get burnt out (it's been just me and steve), the bombard meta takes years off my life every time I play in it, the load screens and crashes during large fights sometimes mean that I spend 75% of my game time trying to get back into the game (as the effing group lead), and like clockwork you'll log in and have to dethrone a day-capped red emp and take back some or all scrolls. Then all of blue and all of red will fight each other between ales and chalman until blue doesn't have enough players online any more and red will mass and push.

If you want to fight groups, the entire strategy has been to prox up and ult dump, then scatter out to avoid the enemy doing the same. It's been that way for over a year, though it comes in slightly different flavors. It's boring; it's stale. I can take a full raid to an objective and have zone chat curse the guild because we didn't go where the one person in zone insisted we go, I can take a group of 8 to an objective alone without any other blues around and be told I'm stacking multiple raids by opponents. Breaks are healthy, and if truth be told, the majority of us anticipated that we'd be playing CU beta at this point in time. Few if any of us are happy to be playing through another Trueflame cycle, but unfortunately there is no adequate replacement yet.

Ya what a mess . I'm crashing too which is normally rare . I hear you guys . Go get a massage , drink some wheat grass an watch some old Kung Fu movies . Or that Incubus with William Shatner and come back ready next DLC .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHUfHj2lTaM

boundsy88

i play both DC and EP and i feel DC most the time have no mind for the campaign. Now that they dont have round the clock mega zergs running around with the CN group pretty much gone, its showing on the leaderboards.
When DC are pushed back to glade and then finally push to the inner keeps they ALWAYS take aleswell then go straight to bleakers as if ash didnt even exist.
AD also do the same by pushing for alessia then going straight to sej and forgetting roebeck entirely.
EP seems to be the more focused faction, which probably plays a good role in why they are winning the campaigns.