ha lol you sound like the one with l2p issues getting all salty defending the most broken skill in the game. There's video evidence in this thread and yet you still defend it. even blocked those two skills from a templar specced for max damage are gonna put you dangerously low on health.
neither skill is dodgeable or reflectable. I'll wait while you come up with another ulti /execute combo that you can say the same about.
ha lol you sound like the one with l2p issues getting all salty defending the most broken skill in the game. There's video evidence in this thread and yet you still defend it. even blocked those two skills from a templar specced for max damage are gonna put you dangerously low on health.
neither skill is dodgeable or reflectable. I'll wait while you come up with another ulti /execute combo that you can say the same about.
I guarantee you if I wasn't CCed a meteor Radiant combo would not kill any of my toons. Never. Meteor does like no damage if you block. So full health Radiant still does nothing.
I play everything in stam and magica. Pretty equally. So I get radiatnted more than I Radiant. Nothing salty here. I just don't see a problem with it.
ha lol you sound like the one with l2p issues getting all salty defending the most broken skill in the game. There's video evidence in this thread and yet you still defend it. even blocked those two skills from a templar specced for max damage are gonna put you dangerously low on health.
neither skill is dodgeable or reflectable. I'll wait while you come up with another ulti /execute combo that you can say the same about.
I guarantee you if I wasn't CCed a meteor Radiant combo would not kill any of my toons. Never. Meteor does like no damage if you block. So full health Radiant still does nothing.
I play everything in stam and magica. Pretty equally. So I get radiatnted more than I Radiant. Nothing salty here. I just don't see a problem with it.
so your claiming that after blocking meteor your still at full health. even if that were possible without shields the video shows what 2 rd's do to someone at full health.
ha lol you sound like the one with l2p issues getting all salty defending the most broken skill in the game. There's video evidence in this thread and yet you still defend it. even blocked those two skills from a templar specced for max damage are gonna put you dangerously low on health.
neither skill is dodgeable or reflectable. I'll wait while you come up with another ulti /execute combo that you can say the same about.
I guarantee you if I wasn't CCed a meteor Radiant combo would not kill any of my toons. Never. Meteor does like no damage if you block. So full health Radiant still does nothing.
I play everything in stam and magica. Pretty equally. So I get radiatnted more than I Radiant. Nothing salty here. I just don't see a problem with it.
so your claiming that after blocking meteor your still at full health. even if that were possible without shields the video shows what 2 rd's do to someone at full health.
ha lol you sound like the one with l2p issues getting all salty defending the most broken skill in the game. There's video evidence in this thread and yet you still defend it. even blocked those two skills from a templar specced for max damage are gonna put you dangerously low on health.
neither skill is dodgeable or reflectable. I'll wait while you come up with another ulti /execute combo that you can say the same about.
I guarantee you if I wasn't CCed a meteor Radiant combo would not kill any of my toons. Never. Meteor does like no damage if you block. So full health Radiant still does nothing.
I play everything in stam and magica. Pretty equally. So I get radiatnted more than I Radiant. Nothing salty here. I just don't see a problem with it.
so your claiming that after blocking meteor your still at full health. even if that were possible without shields the video shows what 2 rd's do to someone at full health.
If you block meteor it actually does like nothing.
And "that video" is buffed up, no idea what spell damage is being used, no idea of resistances, they're not blocking and not healing. It means nothing.
Joy_Division wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »Death stroke was nerfed by 4.5%.
4.5%
4.5%
If you were doing 10K with it, you'll be doing 9.55K
Ouch
It didn't even need a nerf. RD can kill people from 75% health for crying it loud. This ability is probably the most OP move in the game, and it's not even an ultimate. If any move needs to be adjusted, it's this one.
Now it's 75%? Last week it was 40%. Damn, RD just keeps getting better and better
ha lol you sound like the one with l2p issues getting all salty defending the most broken skill in the game. There's video evidence in this thread and yet you still defend it. even blocked those two skills from a templar specced for max damage are gonna put you dangerously low on health.
neither skill is dodgeable or reflectable. I'll wait while you come up with another ulti /execute combo that you can say the same about.
I guarantee you if I wasn't CCed a meteor Radiant combo would not kill any of my toons. Never. Meteor does like no damage if you block. So full health Radiant still does nothing.
I play everything in stam and magica. Pretty equally. So I get radiatnted more than I Radiant. Nothing salty here. I just don't see a problem with it.
so your claiming that after blocking meteor your still at full health. even if that were possible without shields the video shows what 2 rd's do to someone at full health.
If you block meteor it actually does like nothing.
And "that video" is buffed up, no idea what spell damage is being used, no idea of resistances, they're not blocking and not healing. It means nothing.
ha lol you sound like the one with l2p issues getting all salty defending the most broken skill in the game. There's video evidence in this thread and yet you still defend it. even blocked those two skills from a templar specced for max damage are gonna put you dangerously low on health.
neither skill is dodgeable or reflectable. I'll wait while you come up with another ulti /execute combo that you can say the same about.
I guarantee you if I wasn't CCed a meteor Radiant combo would not kill any of my toons. Never. Meteor does like no damage if you block. So full health Radiant still does nothing.
I play everything in stam and magica. Pretty equally. So I get radiatnted more than I Radiant. Nothing salty here. I just don't see a problem with it.
so your claiming that after blocking meteor your still at full health. even if that were possible without shields the video shows what 2 rd's do to someone at full health and I'm still waiting for that comparable ult execute combo.
ha lol you sound like the one with l2p issues getting all salty defending the most broken skill in the game. There's video evidence in this thread and yet you still defend it. even blocked those two skills from a templar specced for max damage are gonna put you dangerously low on health.
neither skill is dodgeable or reflectable. I'll wait while you come up with another ulti /execute combo that you can say the same about.
I guarantee you if I wasn't CCed a meteor Radiant combo would not kill any of my toons. Never. Meteor does like no damage if you block. So full health Radiant still does nothing.
I play everything in stam and magica. Pretty equally. So I get radiatnted more than I Radiant. Nothing salty here. I just don't see a problem with it.
so your claiming that after blocking meteor your still at full health. even if that were possible without shields the video shows what 2 rd's do to someone at full health.
If you block meteor it actually does like nothing.
And "that video" is buffed up, no idea what spell damage is being used, no idea of resistances, they're not blocking and not healing. It means nothing.
The video is a direct comparison between all the executes in the game. It's crystal clear how they are tested on the same characters, meaning same resistances in all scenarios and also the only buff applied by the attackers is major brutality / sorcery.
Make whatever conclusion you want from it, just don't misrepresent facts.
Strider_Roshin wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »Death stroke was nerfed by 4.5%.
4.5%
4.5%
If you were doing 10K with it, you'll be doing 9.55K
Ouch
It didn't even need a nerf. RD can kill people from 75% health for crying it loud. This ability is probably the most OP move in the game, and it's not even an ultimate. If any move needs to be adjusted, it's this one.
Now it's 75%? Last week it was 40%. Damn, RD just keeps getting better and better
I don't use one. I get my information from my friend that plays as one. She states that the move is OP, and she usually casts the ability when her opponent is at 75% health. When she PvPs with another templar they both spam RD on a single target and murder them. This move is not balanced. Not even slightly
Strider_Roshin wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »Death stroke was nerfed by 4.5%.
4.5%
4.5%
If you were doing 10K with it, you'll be doing 9.55K
Ouch
It didn't even need a nerf. RD can kill people from 75% health for crying it loud. This ability is probably the most OP move in the game, and it's not even an ultimate. If any move needs to be adjusted, it's this one.
Now it's 75%? Last week it was 40%. Damn, RD just keeps getting better and better
I don't use one. I get my information from my friend that plays as one. She states that the move is OP, and she usually casts the ability when her opponent is at 75% health. When she PvPs with another templar they both spam RD on a single target and murder them. This move is not balanced. Not even slightly
Your friend is a bad player who probably stands at a back of group doing it while other people damage the person. You can't balance around that.
If you friend did that 1vs1 they would die all the time.
ha lol you sound like the one with l2p issues getting all salty defending the most broken skill in the game. There's video evidence in this thread and yet you still defend it. even blocked those two skills from a templar specced for max damage are gonna put you dangerously low on health.
neither skill is dodgeable or reflectable. I'll wait while you come up with another ulti /execute combo that you can say the same about.
I guarantee you if I wasn't CCed a meteor Radiant combo would not kill any of my toons. Never. Meteor does like no damage if you block. So full health Radiant still does nothing.
I play everything in stam and magica. Pretty equally. So I get radiatnted more than I Radiant. Nothing salty here. I just don't see a problem with it.
so your claiming that after blocking meteor your still at full health. even if that were possible without shields the video shows what 2 rd's do to someone at full health.
If you block meteor it actually does like nothing.
And "that video" is buffed up, no idea what spell damage is being used, no idea of resistances, they're not blocking and not healing. It means nothing.
The video is a direct comparison between all the executes in the game. It's crystal clear how they are tested on the same characters, meaning same resistances in all scenarios and also the only buff applied by the attackers is major brutality / sorcery.
Make whatever conclusion you want from it, just don't misrepresent facts.
On average I die to RD maybe twice or thee times in a 6hr game session. It is on average 5 or 8 times on my death cap, not being the killing blow. In fact I tend to prefer to stick to "Jabs" for the finish rather than switch to RD, since it has a numbingly long pause before the channel actually starts, and 70% the time I can just watch the health bar go up in my enemy while I'm pausing right before RD goes off.
My Explosive Charge and Purifying Lights are possibly more common killing blows on people's death caps than RD.
If you refuse to use block and use (a) Purge, there is no reason at all why you wouldn't keep getting hit by RD.
People can't just have a perma dodge rolling shuffle build and expect it not to have any sort of counter. My bet RD is the only skill that hits dodge roll/shuffle spammers since they are busy rolling around instead of blocking, but blocking isn't part of the win button, I guess.
Strider_Roshin wrote: »It didn't even need a nerf.
Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Incorrect. She actually duels quite often, and wins. She also uses that move in duels. The only thing that's bad is your judgment.
earth_angel wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Incorrect. She actually duels quite often, and wins. She also uses that move in duels. The only thing that's bad is your judgment.
if she duels and the opponent does not interupt her when she use RD 1v1 then I wonder who that opponent is. At full health I have more than enough time to react.
On average I die to RD maybe twice or three times in a 6hr game session, and I frequently get hit with 3+ beams. It is on average 5 or 8 times on my death cap per session, not being the killing blow.
In fact I tend to prefer to stick to "Jabs" for the finish rather than switch to RD, since it has a numbingly long pause before the channel actually starts, and 70% of the time I can just watch the health bar go up on my enemy while I'm pausing right before RD goes off (á la Templar Class defining).
My Explosive Charge and Reflective Light are possibly more common killing blows on people's death caps than RD. Also, the majority of the players I have encountered recently have clearly learned that blocking and purging are the way to go against RD. [In fact, I'm preparing a gigantic post to demand RD not being blockable, with maths, diagrams, spreadsheets, videos and lots of tears... (*joke)]
If you refuse to use block and/or (a) Purge, there is no reason at all why you wouldn't keep getting hit by RD.
People can't just have a perma dodge rolling shuffle build and expect it not to have any sort of counter. I bet RD is the only skill that hits dodge roll/shuffle spammers since they are busy rolling around instead of blocking, but blocking isn't part of the win button I guess.
GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Nerf Crit Rush! :P
Where's Jules with that video showcasing execute's. That pretty much sums up my thoughts on RD.
There
https://youtu.be/em46ajNfuTU
@Jules productions
@bowmanz607, Very true!!bowmanz607 wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Nerf Crit Rush! :P
Where's Jules with that video showcasing execute's. That pretty much sums up my thoughts on RD.
There
https://youtu.be/em46ajNfuTU
@Jules productions
like this prove nothing. It is merely a surface example of multiple abilities. A true test takes into account the stats of each of the individual players involved. Not to mention gear, champ point amount and allocation etc. This video shows nothing. For all we know stats were high damage and low mitigation for Rd and opposite for the others. Not saying this is the case. Just playing devils advocate here. Videos like this may be well intentioned, but in reality don't show anything useful. It is merely something for the masses to point at and say see look I told you. Again, just playing devils advocate here. Stats go a long way when testing. Without those numbers made availavle, no one can prove anything from this.
bowmanz607 wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Nerf Crit Rush! :P
Where's Jules with that video showcasing execute's. That pretty much sums up my thoughts on RD.
There
https://youtu.be/em46ajNfuTU
@Jules productions
like this prove nothing. It is merely a surface example of multiple abilities. A true test takes into account the stats of each of the individual players involved. Not to mention gear, champ point amount and allocation etc. This video shows nothing. For all we know stats were high damage and low mitigation for Rd and opposite for the others. Not saying this is the case. Just playing devils advocate here. Videos like this may be well intentioned, but in reality don't show anything useful. It is merely something for the masses to point at and say see look I told you. Again, just playing devils advocate here. Stats go a long way when testing. Without those numbers made availavle, no one can prove anything from this.
Very true!!
Also, why did he have to use entropy before using RD. Well, obviously he wants the RD to be nerf to ground and those abilities for NB and Sorc are not OP moves.
OP abilities.
Sorc= crystal frags.
NB= Grim focus.( 1 shot kill)
So, use those abilities in that video and then compare.
bowmanz607 wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Nerf Crit Rush! :P
Where's Jules with that video showcasing execute's. That pretty much sums up my thoughts on RD.
There
https://youtu.be/em46ajNfuTU
@Jules productions
like this prove nothing. It is merely a surface example of multiple abilities. A true test takes into account the stats of each of the individual players involved. Not to mention gear, champ point amount and allocation etc. This video shows nothing. For all we know stats were high damage and low mitigation for Rd and opposite for the others. Not saying this is the case. Just playing devils advocate here. Videos like this may be well intentioned, but in reality don't show anything useful. It is merely something for the masses to point at and say see look I told you. Again, just playing devils advocate here. Stats go a long way when testing. Without those numbers made availavle, no one can prove anything from this.
Very true!!
Also, why did he have to use entropy before using RD. Well, obviously he wants the RD to be nerf to ground and those abilities for NB and Sorc are not OP moves.
OP abilities.
Sorc= crystal frags.
NB= Grim focus.( 1 shot kill)
So, use those abilities in that video and then compare.
nb grim focus 1 shot kill are you sure
It does less damage requires 4 shots to proc it can be dodged reflected back and cloaked but yeah loads more effective than RD. I should add its only buffed by mighty not thamaturge as well so when the caps move if ever it will be even weaker by comparison.
It does less damage requires 4 shots to proc it can be dodged reflected back and cloaked but yeah loads more effective than RD. I should add its only buffed by mighty not thamaturge as well so when the caps move if ever it will be even weaker by comparison.
1 shot instant kill (plus 3 light attacks) > 2.5 second channel that doesn't one shot
Burst damage is better than a channel
It does less damage requires 4 shots to proc it can be dodged reflected back and cloaked but yeah loads more effective than RD. I should add its only buffed by mighty not thamaturge as well so when the caps move if ever it will be even weaker by comparison.
PainfulFAFA wrote: »lol