IT'S DRAGONKNIGHT not poisonknight @ZOS

Recremen

DRAGONKNIGHT

So it turns out all 3 stamina morphs have disgusting new animations. We have Greasy-Fingernail attack, Actual Vomit, and Aura of Rot-Bubbles. I can't imagine why someone thought these animations were OK.

Tryxus

poisonknight

Abeille wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Rosveen wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

If you think it must be fire "because dragons", play Skyrim again.

I asked about poison dragons in Skyrim before, nobody answered. Care to share some insight?
(I'd pay for a frost-based class, though)

Sure! And I would also pay for a frost-based class to be honest.

Actually, it is more like "they can do things that poisons do in the game", which is the Drain Vitality shout that they can use. At least two kinds of dragons can do that, off the top of my head, the Revered Dragon and Durnehviir the undead dragon.

Also, just out of curiosity since people mentioned the difference between dragons and wyverns, Peryite is depicted as a dragon (an actual dragon, in our sense of the word, with four legs and a pair of wings), though then disease damage would make more sense than poison. But Peryite is the absolute worst Daedric Prince, like objectively the worst, like the "being-picked-last-on-the-Daedric-dodgeball-games" worst, so everybody ignores that.

Well technically, DK doing Poison and NB doing Disease fits a bit better than the other way around:

- Certain dragons have the ability to not only breathe fire but spit poison/attack with poison spines as well. Lorewise it fits and gamewise it fits too considering the DK is DoT-based. Poison is a DoT, Disease isn't
- NB and Assassins usually catch ppl off-guard, meaning their victims can't react as fast as possible. With Disease reducing the effectiveness of healing, it's the best fit for a NB

Yeah it makes sense, I was just pointing out Peryite's depiction as a dragon despite him being the "Daedric Lord of Pestilence" (colds and sore feet or something).

The plague (think I made a quick mention of him here too)

I do not like Peryite very much (if you didn't notice) :P

Weirdly enough, none of the plagues that actually decimated a significant chunk of the population were attributed to Peryite.

I kinda liked Peryite back during the days of Daggerfall, as he was one of the more hospitable and kinder Daedric Princes. Oblivion too. But then Skyrim came and made him a Daedric Prince of Sickness and Plagues >_>

There's a mention in Shadowfen that the Ayleids may have created the Knahaten Flu, and since many of the Ayleids that fled Cyrodiil were Daedra worshippers, it's possible that Peryite may have influenced them in creating the Flu. Who knows, maybe the Sload listened to Peryite too when they unleashed the Thrassian Plague.

Ofc, that's just speculation, but it might be possible

Lynx7386

poisonknight

I would have been ok with green fire

Kainos98

DRAGONKNIGHT

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

There are poison dragons too...

Dragon-knight does not necessary mean Fire dmg. Just because it has Dragon in front of the name it doesnt necessary mean its Fire based dmg

There are:

Fire Dragons
Frost Dragons
Poison Dragons
Air Dragons
Death Dragons
Earth Dragons

There might be more I dont know, but that's it.

Hey don't forget "Hidden Dragons" and their pet, Crouching Khajiit or was it....ah hell nm lol.
As for the DK changes, odd is not the first word to come to mind...but interesting for sure. I'm still hoping for a new class like the Sword Singers or something else

Solid_Metal

poisonknight

ah yeah, about the animation, if ZoS reading this thread, we really appreciate just change it into green fire, or green mist-fire like, but other than that, its awesome

WalkingLegacy

They should make it so a silhouette of a dragon comes out of your character to spew forth their poison throwup. Like just the neck/head of a dragon.

Would look a lot more epic.

Kainos98

DRAGONKNIGHT

Recremen wrote: »

So it turns out all 3 stamina morphs have disgusting new animations. We have Greasy-Fingernail attack, Actual Vomit, and Aura of Rot-Bubbles. I can't imagine why someone thought these animations were OK.

Maybe they gave this project to some newly hired guys that use to work at Blizzard and they still thought they we're doing Death Knight animation designs for WoW . You know, those kinda "employees" who have a hard time letting go of their old jobs lol.

Daraugh

A Viper Knight is fine, kinda cool even if they just change the animations. No projectile vomiting. Green flames please!

ADarklore

Recremen wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Trying to figure out why so many people assume that because of the name 'Dragonknight' that it means the class has to be associated with DRAGONS... instead of accepting that it is just a name for people with specialized skills... not meaning they are in any way associated with actual dragons.

It might have to do with this lorebook where dragonknights are found chanting "We are dragon knights, we are dragons".

Excerpt:

We are dragon knights. We are dragons.
If you attack us, you will meet talons.
If you strike us, you will eat spikes.
If you injure us, our wounds will close.
If you anger us, you will burn.
If you run from us, we will pounce upon you.
You cannot win. We cannot lose.
We are dragon knights. We are dragons.

Well, technically they could chant 'We are daedra" but it certainly isn't going go mean they are actual daedra.

waterfairy

DRAGONKNIGHT

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

There are poison dragons too...

Dragon-knight does not necessary mean Fire dmg. Just because it has Dragon in front of the name it doesnt necessary mean its Fire based dmg

There are:

Fire Dragons
Frost Dragons
Poison Dragons
Air Dragons
Death Dragons
Earth Dragons

There might be more I dont know, but that's it.

In TES only 2 of those dragons have existed. (well Alduin can be considered a death dragon but not quite)

notimetocare

poisonknight

I voted because you seem butthurt over this change... Also because this is a massive bonus to the output of a DK. Animations are meh, but ill take a dmg boost nay day. Also, I get to annoy a friend who hates the change. Silly RPers :P

Tryxus

poisonknight

idk

poisonknight

The changes are beneficial for a stam build. Good to see more of the stam morphs changed to damage that is inline with a good CP build for stam.

Lynx7386

poisonknight

Recremen wrote: »

So it turns out all 3 stamina morphs have disgusting new animations. We have Greasy-Fingernail attack, Actual Vomit, and Aura of Rot-Bubbles. I can't imagine why someone thought these animations were OK.

Which ability is the aura of rot bubbles?

Recremen

DRAGONKNIGHT

ADarklore wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Trying to figure out why so many people assume that because of the name 'Dragonknight' that it means the class has to be associated with DRAGONS... instead of accepting that it is just a name for people with specialized skills... not meaning they are in any way associated with actual dragons.

It might have to do with this lorebook where dragonknights are found chanting "We are dragon knights, we are dragons".

Excerpt:

We are dragon knights. We are dragons.
If you attack us, you will meet talons.
If you strike us, you will eat spikes.
If you injure us, our wounds will close.
If you anger us, you will burn.
If you run from us, we will pounce upon you.
You cannot win. We cannot lose.
We are dragon knights. We are dragons.

Well, technically they could chant 'We are daedra" but it certainly isn't going go mean they are actual daedra.

I'm not saying they are literally dragons, just showing why the class is associated with dragons. You wondered why, I told you why.

Recremen

DRAGONKNIGHT

Solid_Metal wrote: »

ah yeah, about the animation, if ZoS reading this thread, we really appreciate just change it into green fire, or green mist-fire like, but other than that, its awesome

I'd actually prefer to stick with the orange fire, not gonna lie. There were zero things wrong with the animations before. If they want to play with new animations, why not do it through the crownstore with animation packs like the new Personalities tab?

Tryxus

poisonknight

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

So it turns out all 3 stamina morphs have disgusting new animations. We have Greasy-Fingernail attack, Actual Vomit, and Aura of Rot-Bubbles. I can't imagine why someone thought these animations were OK.

Which ability is the aura of rot bubbles?

Corrosive Armor

Recremen

DRAGONKNIGHT

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

So it turns out all 3 stamina morphs have disgusting new animations. We have Greasy-Fingernail attack, Actual Vomit, and Aura of Rot-Bubbles. I can't imagine why someone thought these animations were OK.

Which ability is the aura of rot bubbles?

Corrosive Armor. It actually has a really cool green body glow effect to it (still undesired because I like the orange, but I digress), but then it has what looks like rotten bits of bubbling flesh falling off you and floating in the air.

slumber_sandb16_ESO

DRAGONKNIGHT

I wouldn't mind the poison change at all if the skills actually looked cooler. Puking green bile isn't exactly what I imagined when picking Dragonknight. Green fire would be better.

Yusuf

poisonknight

play magicka if you wanna cast fire-abilities, simple as that.

Recremen

DRAGONKNIGHT

Yusuf wrote: »

play magicka if you wanna cast fire-abilities, simple as that.

Don't change the animations, simple as that.

notimetocare

poisonknight

Recremen wrote: »

Yusuf wrote: »

play magicka if you wanna cast fire-abilities, simple as that.

Don't change the animations, simple as that.

Changing the dmg type without changing the animation would be stupid. "I got hit with fire, why is it not mitigated by fire resistance"

rotaugen454

One of the dragon knight skills is green dragon blood. And what is the green dragon breath attack in D&D?

Recremen

DRAGONKNIGHT

notimetocare wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

Yusuf wrote: »

play magicka if you wanna cast fire-abilities, simple as that.

Don't change the animations, simple as that.

Changing the dmg type without changing the animation would be stupid. "I got hit with fire, why is it not mitigated by fire resistance"

Ah yes, fire resistance, because that's totally relevant in PvP. What would you do when you see a DK suddenly puking on you instead of breathing fire? Run away so you can equip your poison resist rings instead? That's a completely unrealistic scenario. Further, they could just add damage type in the death recap, or players could actually remember with their brain whether or not they're getting hit with the stam morph of an ability versus the magicka morph. I don't see anyone complaining on Live right now that they don't know when to pop Annulment or Bone Shield because they can't figure out if they're getting hit by the stam version or the magicka version.

MarrazzMist

poisonknight

Dragonknight that uses poison for me, please

Edziu

I never played dk and dont want to vote if isnt here 3rd optiont to vote "Yes"

Tats

green fire please!

ComboBreaker88

laced wrote: »

I hate the change for one reason. I chose a dark elf for my stamknight for the extra flame damage and now this change completely makes my choice obsolete. I hope we have race changes with this update, because I am not happy about this. They did exactly what I feared they would start doing this update, balancing the game AROUND CPs instead of balancing CPs around the base game. Absolute nonsense.

That's because your build isn't very good. They are balancing the game. WE the community asked for balance and they are giving it to us. You play a stamina build whose attacks you thought to boost through fire? Which is a magical ability? Really? Tell me that was a joke. If you want fire damage roll magika. I recommend the elf bane set. With skoria. And will power rings. Nirn daggers. But hey maybe the new sets will be even more amazing.

IrishGirlGamer

Tryxus wrote: »

I know! That's what I thought when I first read it:

I'm in the middle of a fight, my finger stabs an attack key, and my DK launches into the Zombie green vomit animation.

And ever time I think of it, I laugh.

AfkNinja

poisonknight

They need to fix the animations though, asap.