Crating Bag Exclusivity is Unfair

Gidorick

Mettaricana wrote: »

To cheap or poor for the sub end of story..

I don't expect to keep my benefits of electricity without paying the bill. Nor can I buy just my AC unit turned on and nothing else.

@Mettaricana gets the "didn't read" award too! Congratulations!

I need to find a trophy for this as I think I'm going to be passing out a lot of them...

Zyle

Mettaricana wrote: »

To cheap or poor for the sub end of story..

I don't expect to keep my benefits of electricity without paying the bill. Nor can I buy just my AC unit turned on and nothing else.

Well, that's one way of identifying yourself as clueless.

Xundiin

I find this all to be hilarious to be honest. The B2P players want the bag and feel it's unfair that they with hold that content from them. But in all actuality, being and ESO+ member offers far to little. Other games that use a similar Sub/F2P system offers way more in the way of perks to their subscribers. Truth be it, you should feel lucky that ZOS hasn't added a lot to the sub perks over the past year.

Honestly, just let the ESO+ players feel like they actually are getting a perk that makes a difference. +10% xp isn't a whole lot. 1500 crowns doesn't really get you much if any thing. And having access to DLC's with out purchasing them is only marginally better. Since if something happens and your sub ends, you lose your access to those. Which is different from other games that as long as you where subbed when they released you have access for as long as the servers are active. So in reality, ZOS has been extremely generous to the B2P community in this game compared to other titles.

svartorn

bedlom wrote: »

No! Children suffering is unfair. You are just either cheap or poor.

This.

Zyle

Xundiin wrote: »

I find this all to be hilarious to be honest. The B2P players want the bag and feel it's unfair that they with hold that content from them. But in all actuality, being and ESO+ member offers far to little. Other games that use a similar Sub/F2P system offers way more in the way of perks to their subscribers. Truth be it, you should feel lucky that ZOS hasn't added a lot to the sub perks over the past year.

Honestly, just let the ESO+ players feel like they actually are getting a perk that makes a difference. +10% xp isn't a whole lot. 1500 crowns doesn't really get you much if any thing. And having access to DLC's with out purchasing them is only marginally better. Since if something happens and your sub ends, you lose your access to those. Which is different from other games that as long as you where subbed when they released you have access for as long as the servers are active. So in reality, ZOS has been extremely generous to the B2P community in this game compared to other titles.

You just said other games: give full access to DLC even if you unsub as long as you subbed when DLC was released

and ZOS: doesn't, you lose access if you lose sub period

but somehow landed on: ZOS has been extremely generous?

I get that this would boost ESO+ to being a bit more worth it for some people, the point this thread is trying to make is exclusivity. Why can't ZOS offer it in the crown store or at least provide a less capacity version?

Zyle

svartorn wrote: »

bedlom wrote: »

No! Children suffering is unfair. You are just either cheap or poor.

This is a childish response.

Fixed that for ya

llllADBllll

I now have no excuse as a crafter for not being able to craft right now because I'm not sure which character my materials are on....This is a punishment for subscribers

Aimora

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

They are holding back a better inventory from those that do not subscribe. So you have to continually pay a monthly subscription otherwise your inventory will get/be worse. ZOS has finally recognized that inventory management needs help... but they have chosen to withhold a fix from players unless those players give them a monthly stipend.

Now that's a *really* twisted way of seeing things.
With this "technique" you could qualify virtually *any* ESO+ advantage as a "paying fix".

Like...
ZOS has finally recognized that XP is too low in the game and offers the needed fix (+10%) as an ESO+ benefit !!!
or even...
ZOS has finally recognized that players need new content but offer extra content (DLC) only to ESO+ subscribers or for crowns !!!

and so on...

Inventory is fine as it is, it's not broken.
It will be easier with crafting bags but still manageable without them.

Brilliant post and my thoughts exactly talk about glass half empty perspective

Tommy1979AtWar

Mettaricana wrote: »

To cheap or poor for the sub end of story..

I don't expect to keep my benefits of electricity without paying the bill. Nor can I buy just my AC unit turned on and nothing else.

But you expect there to be electricity just like everyone else who pays for electricty correct? I know I do.

Just as @Emma_Eunjung pointed out a lot of us who supported the B2P model zos sold us on feel slapped in the face a bit

But hey I'd just like to say on behalf of "cheap" or "poor"non subs everywhere you're welcome... we all know how well the subscription base was going before we came along.
You're welcome for the content we contributed towards which wouldn't have been released without the B2P model.
You're welcome for the continued finacial support we provide as we all know you'd not be getting any future content without it.
You're welcome for the further investment our crowns store and DLC sales have brought to the table... so yeah... you're welcome.
Thanks for the returned feelings of support too, really warms the heart to see the community pull together when seeing subs call non subs "cheap" and "poor" lol

JamilaRaj

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

They are holding back a better inventory from those that do not subscribe. So you have to continually pay a monthly subscription otherwise your inventory will get/be worse. ZOS has finally recognized that inventory management needs help... but they have chosen to withhold a fix from players unless those players give them a monthly stipend.

Now that's a *really* twisted way of seeing things.
With this "technique" you could qualify virtually *any* ESO+ advantage as a "paying fix".

Agree. Disguising paying for advantages, i.e. corruption, as paying for a fix, is very twisted!!!

Taonnor

That crafting bag for ESO+ is absolutly fair. A the moment we all can handle fine without, so it is Ok.

Gidorick

I see the core of this conversation boils down to whether or not you think the inventory is something that needs "fixing" in the first place.

Two people disagreeing on that can't really discuss the merits of the Crafting Bags as an ESO+ benefits because the foundation of both opinions are different.

Slurg

Wanderinlost wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

You've bought three DLCs and how many crowns in how long? Not being snarky.I really am curious about around how much you have put into ESO.I've paid in two years $15.00 per month along with the initial output of $80.00 for the full game plus upgrade. Plus I've bought quite a bit of crowns during that time. I can bet it pretty much evens out between the both of us.So,I support this game more than most non-subs do,as do all other ESO+ members.Most non-subbers will buy the DLCs and some crowns and that's it pretty much,while subbers still pay every month,and many buy crowns as well every month along with costumes,mounts,and pets. It all adds up.I also have paid for each DLC though I didnt have to.Just in case I cant pay my sub for whatever reason that month or a few months.
Those who dont sub have a problem with the idea that subbers are important to ZOS,though I dont know why this is.
I commented about the descent among forum members to Gidorick.We both think is is really sad that the PvPers resent the PvErs,the non-subbers resent the subbers,etc.It really is sad.

I have yet to hear a satisfactory answer as to how this feature being exclusive will benefit ESO+ members? You are getting the feature. Do you get anything out of the availability being denied to the rest of the playerbase? We would have to pay for it and it would probably be around $50 because given the price of assistants it would be on a similar scale. So why are so many ESO+ members so insistent that nobody else should be able to buy this feature when it will not effect your gameplay in the slightest?

I have read nothing that indicates people have a problem with ESO+ members getting special benefits. On the other hand there is widespread perception that if non-subs had the ability to buy this feature it would somehow be a bad thing. Why?

If I resent subbers it is because in the MMO sphere there is a common elitist attitude that those who have chosen microtransactions, F2P, and B2P etc. are somehow inferior or less of customers than to those who rent their games as a service. When it comes down to it the subscription model failed catastrophically across the board and only a handful of games are able to survive on it out of a few hundred. ESO may perhaps be one of the few who can turn that around, although this is not the way to do it.

Sadly, I think they do get something out of the exclusiveness. Just from reading some of the comments, it is apparent that some ESO+ members gain a great sense of moral superiority from their $15 a month "support" of the game and they fear their superiority will be ripped away from them if some form of the crafting bag is offered to non-subscribers (some of whom have spent more money "supporting" the game than they have) to purchase. Because it doesn't take a single thing away from ESO+ members except their pride in being the only ones who can have it.

It is really pathetic that some people seem to think that a measly $15 a month makes them somehow better than others who were drawn into this game by a cash shop payment model that was intended to draw them in after the subscription only model didn't work well enough. So many people especially on console just plain don't subscribe to games but will gladly pay piecemeal for features they want. Trying to push these players to subscribe by not allowing them to buy the things they want is going to turn a lot of people off this game because they'll just wonder what's going behind that wall next.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Gidorick wrote: »

I see the core of this conversation boils down to whether or not you think the inventory is something that needs "fixing" in the first place.

Two people disagreeing on that can't really discuss the merits of the Crafting Bags as an ESO+ benefits because the foundation of both opinions are different.

Yes, exactly.

What in the current inventory system upsets you so much ?

I also think there's a difference between PC and console players here. On PC, there are a couple of addons that make inventory management really easy (Advanced filters and bank manager revived). ZOS should really take their features and implement them into the base game.

Xundiin

Zyle wrote: »

You just said other games: give full access to DLC even if you unsub as long as you subbed when DLC was released

and ZOS: doesn't, you lose access if you lose sub period

but somehow landed on: ZOS has been extremely generous?

I get that this would boost ESO+ to being a bit more worth it for some people, the point this thread is trying to make is exclusivity. Why can't ZOS offer it in the crown store or at least provide a less capacity version?

Because what I said was Generous to the B2P community. What you quoted and then fox newsed it to make it sound like the bags don't need to exclusive. Subs don't get much in the way of perks. So being a B2P gamer for this game under how ZOS has it set up is more beneficial.

As for why ZOS doesn't at least have a limted version of it, so a 100 slot crafting bag for 2000 crowns, I don't know since I'm not ZOS nor am I included in their decision making process. All I'm saying is the whining over the bags being exclusive isn't needed really. Subs hardly get any sort of bonus that is worth praising for paying monthly to a game they love. If nothing is in the store that a B2P wants, ZoS makes nothing from that player. Yet subs will still give money regardless if they want something or not. So throwing them a bone and saying thanks for the support isn't that far fetched.

Elsonso

Gidorick wrote: »

I agree OP, inventory management is horrendous in ESO and they are essentially putting the fix behind a pay wall.

I actually disagree. The inventory management in this game is absolutely not "horrendous", by any stretch of the word.

I would say that the issue is not the game, but the people who play. Sorry, but some people are bad at managing inventory. They keep too much stuff, or they don't know what they should keep, and they lose control. Some try to solve the problem with "mules" and they hop from character to character shuffling stuff in and out of the bank. From my perspective, mule alts are a problem with the player, not the game. (Again, sorry if it sounds like you)

My inventory and bank is kept relevant. I only keep what I can use or sell, and I destroy the rest. My bank is for stuff I will need to get at from 2 or more characters, stuff I regularly sell that is collected by multiple characters, and stuff that needs to be transferred between characters. I only keep one stack of anything in the bank and sell off the overflow. When I need bank space, I just sell off or delete something that no longer needs to be in the bank.

clocksstoppe wrote: »

Too bad it will have the opposite effect for many people. I will never ever subscribe as long as this crafting bag remains sub only. I'm not promoting this disgusting thing.

For many people it is actually a non-issue. There are a lot of ESO Plus members, and this is a free benefit for them. People will be hard pressed to find an ESO Plus member who drops ESO Plus over this bag. I think that an increase in ESO Plus membership after DB is a given, at this point.

As for whether it will be in the store? Of course it will. I do not know if anyone has noticed, but that is how ZOS does it. DLCs are free for ESO Plus, and they are in the store. ESO Plus gets an XP boost, and those are also available in the store. ZOS will want to make sure that all paths for spending money are open for the players, subscription or not. They are not going to lock this behind ESO Plus forever (if at all). The only issue is price, and when. Other than that, my advice is to stop worrying.

Besides, many people will call the bag broken from the start. I am almost sure that they will make the bag account-wide, but make the contents of the bag specific to the character. That should be enough to allow some players to justify not getting ESO Plus or buying the bag in the store.

Nacacia

It would work like this...

Zen: We'll sell you 100 slot bag...
Forum: Great, now give us more than 100 slots...

Better to just not jump down the rabbit hole altogether...

Xundiin

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I see the core of this conversation boils down to whether or not you think the inventory is something that needs "fixing" in the first place.

Two people disagreeing on that can't really discuss the merits of the Crafting Bags as an ESO+ benefits because the foundation of both opinions are different.

Yes, exactly.

What in the current inventory system upsets you so much ?

I also think there's a difference between PC and console players here. On PC, there are a couple of addons that make inventory management really easy (Advanced filters and bank manager revived). ZOS should really take their features and implement them into the base game.

I could get behind this. I have no clue how the consoles are set up since I have seen the need for addons since this game launched. And I don't play on consoles. Don't get me wrong for the minimalist out there the UI is really well done. But I like a little more utility to mine and wouldn't be able to handle the default UI system.

Gidorick

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I see the core of this conversation boils down to whether or not you think the inventory is something that needs "fixing" in the first place.

Two people disagreeing on that can't really discuss the merits of the Crafting Bags as an ESO+ benefits because the foundation of both opinions are different.

Yes, exactly.

What in the current inventory system upsets you so much ?

I also think there's a difference between PC and console players here. On PC, there are a couple of addons that make inventory management really easy (Advanced filters and bank manager revived). ZOS should really take their features and implement them into the base game.

To be honest, I would have quit ESO it if weren't for Advanced Filters @anitajoneb17_ESO. Even with those, the person I played with ESO the most (we both got the collectors edition and were in the Beta) quit because he got tired of having to run back to town every few hours to empty his inventory.

I'll admit, they have made some strides with the collections tab. That was a great addition to ESO, but that was more in service of the Crown Store than it was to help us with our inventory management. The side effect was taking some weight off of our shoulders.

You've been on this forum long enough to know that inventory has been an issue since the beginning and there have been many, many threads about this issue. We're not concocting an issue just to complain about it.

Here is a thread from May 2014. "Inventory is unmanageable": http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/103101/inventory-is-unmanageable/p1

Here's one from April 2014 titled "Inventory Management is Ruining the Game": http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/81143/inventory-management-is-ruining-the-game

Here's one from November 2015 titled "Inventory Management is a Huge Turnoff": http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/230152/inventory-management-is-a-huge-turnoff

June 2014... "Inventory Management is a Chore in ESO" : http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/105891/inventory-management-is-a-chore-in-eso

May 2015... simply titled "Inventory Issues": http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/170729/inventory-issues/p1

And here's my thread from April 2015 asking for inventory bags and an encumbrance mechanic
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/162693/more-bags-and-encumbrance-concepts/p1

Those, obviously, aren't the only ones. Whether or not you feel that "Inventory is fine as it is" there is a huge portion of the community that feels it is not. To many, this is a quality of life issue. To tell those players that the only way to fix their inventory issues is to pay a monthly fee just seems wrong to me.

Emma_Overload

Averya_Teira wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

I agree with the OP. A lot of us never wanted the B2P concept to begin with and were happy paying for a sub. Then ZOS sold us on B2P, so we started buying Crowns and DLC. The crafting bag may not sound like such a big deal, but it's kind of a slap in the face to everyone who has spent hundreds on Crown Store stuff.

All ZOS needs to do is offer the crafting bag for like 2000 Crowns or something, and the whole controversy goes away.

If you spent hundreds of dollars on Crowns, I don't think you care about 15$ for ESO+ ...

Wrong. People look at DLC costs as an investment, insurance that guarantees that all content will be available whether they pay for a sub every month or not.

The problem with the crafting bag, compared to the 10% XP bonus or other ESO+ perks, is that once you start using the bag, you kind of need to keep using it forever. If you stop paying for ESO+ in the future, you could lose a HUGE chunk of your inventory, and that's just wrong.

This issue is exacerbated by the fact that DLC purchasers who are forced back into a sub just for the crafting bag will feel like they got RIPPED OFF by having to pay for the same content twice. Do you understand now?

LBxFinalDeath

Honestly though...people complain for ages that ESO+ isn't worth getting.

They announce something that will incentivize people to get ESO+ finally.

People complain that non-ESO+ players should get it because they feel entitled with comments such as "Is me buying the game itself not enough!? I'm being ripped off here!"

Once again, crafting bags should only be for ESO+ members.

ESO+ desperately needs more reasons for people to get it.

Buffler

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Averya_Teira wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

I agree with the OP. A lot of us never wanted the B2P concept to begin with and were happy paying for a sub. Then ZOS sold us on B2P, so we started buying Crowns and DLC. The crafting bag may not sound like such a big deal, but it's kind of a slap in the face to everyone who has spent hundreds on Crown Store stuff.

All ZOS needs to do is offer the crafting bag for like 2000 Crowns or something, and the whole controversy goes away.

If you spent hundreds of dollars on Crowns, I don't think you care about 15$ for ESO+ ...

Wrong. People look at DLC costs as an investment, insurance that guarantees that all content will be available whether they pay for a sub every month or not.

The problem with the crafting bag, compared to the 10% XP bonus or other ESO+ perks, is that once you start using the bag, you kind of need to keep using it forever. If you stop paying for ESO+ in the future, you could lose a HUGE chunk of your inventory, and that's just wrong.

This issue is exacerbated by the fact that DLC purchasers who are forced back into a sub just for the crafting bag will feel like they got RIPPED OFF by having to pay for the same content twice. Do you understand now?

What inventory do you lose if you unsubscribe?
You keep all the stuff in your bag just cant put anymore into it.

Aimora

I really don't understand why people who have bought the DLC's say they are paying twice if they sub, you still get crowns for subbing alongside of getting the use of the DLC's so how is that paying twice? Yes you bought the DLC's outright but you are not buying them again by subbing - as part of the subscription had you have not bought them you would get access to them, but you are not paying for them again? It's a bizarre logic.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Gidorick wrote: »

Those, obviously, aren't the only ones. Whether or not you feel that "Inventory is fine as it is" there is a huge portion of the community that feels it is not. To many, this is a quality of life issue. To tell those players that the only way to fix their inventory issues is to pay a monthly fee just seems wrong to me.

OK... Went through a couple of those threads you mention. Not entirely of course, too long, but it seems that basically.... people want more inventory space !

They simply didn't understand that this is a RPG where you have to make CHOICES, inventory management requires CHOICES and are part of the game.

Inventory cannot be called broken just because people don't know how to handle it or refuse to make choices.

If played properly, inventory is fine as it is (UI issues aside).

hydrocynus

This thread is like saying that it's unfair that people who drive ferraris can drive faster.

You get what you pay for.

Gidorick

lordrichter wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I agree OP, inventory management is horrendous in ESO and they are essentially putting the fix behind a pay wall.

I actually disagree. The inventory management in this game is absolutely not "horrendous", by any stretch of the word.

I would say that the issue is not the game, but the people who play. Sorry, but some people are bad at managing inventory. They keep too much stuff, or they don't know what they should keep, and they lose control. Some try to solve the problem with "mules" and they hop from character to character shuffling stuff in and out of the bank. From my perspective, mule alts are a problem with the player, not the game. (Again, sorry if it sounds like you)

My inventory and bank is kept relevant. I only keep what I can use or sell, and I destroy the rest. My bank is for stuff I will need to get at from 2 or more characters, stuff I regularly sell that is collected by multiple characters, and stuff that needs to be transferred between characters. I only keep one stack of anything in the bank and sell off the overflow. When I need bank space, I just sell off or delete something that no longer needs to be in the bank.

clocksstoppe wrote: »

Too bad it will have the opposite effect for many people. I will never ever subscribe as long as this crafting bag remains sub only. I'm not promoting this disgusting thing.

For many people it is actually a non-issue. There are a lot of ESO Plus members, and this is a free benefit for them. People will be hard pressed to find an ESO Plus member who drops ESO Plus over this bag. I think that an increase in ESO Plus membership after DB is a given, at this point.

As for whether it will be in the store? Of course it will. I do not know if anyone has noticed, but that is how ZOS does it. DLCs are free for ESO Plus, and they are in the store. ESO Plus gets an XP boost, and those are also available in the store. ZOS will want to make sure that all paths for spending money are open for the players, subscription or not. They are not going to lock this behind ESO Plus forever (if at all). The only issue is price, and when. Other than that, my advice is to stop worrying.

Besides, many people will call the bag broken from the start. I am almost sure that they will make the bag account-wide, but make the contents of the bag specific to the character. That should be enough to allow some players to justify not getting ESO Plus or buying the bag in the store.

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

Those, obviously, aren't the only ones. Whether or not you feel that "Inventory is fine as it is" there is a huge portion of the community that feels it is not. To many, this is a quality of life issue. To tell those players that the only way to fix their inventory issues is to pay a monthly fee just seems wrong to me.

OK... Went through a couple of those threads you mention. Not entirely of course, too long, but it seems that basically.... people want more inventory space !

They simply didn't understand that this is a RPG where you have to make CHOICES, inventory management requires CHOICES and are part of the game.

Inventory cannot be called broken just because people don't know how to handle it or refuse to make choices.

If played properly, inventory is fine as it is (UI issues aside).

So it's a case of "everyone should play like you play"?

I don't like spending 30 minutes every play session shuffling the crap I picked up out of my bag and into my bank. Then clearing items out of my bank to make room for the stuff I want to put in. Not everyone wants to play "Inventory Management: Tamriel Edition".

Of course we have to manage inventory some, we can't have unlimited space. Crafting bags seems like a good medium compromise. Crafting mats take up a TON of space!

The fact that ZOS is even adding this should be enough of an indication that inventory is in need of help. And yea, the primary concern is the fact that inventory is too small. What does the crafting bags do? Unload all the crafting materials off of the character to free up that inventory.

We're right back at the disagreement of whether inventory is broken or not. You don't think it is... that's fine. Good for you. Many of us do.

Emma_Overload

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

Honestly though...people complain for ages that ESO+ isn't worth getting.

They announce something that will incentivize people to get ESO+ finally.

People complain that non-ESO+ players should get it because they feel entitled with comments such as "Is me buying the game itself not enough!? I'm being ripped off here!"

Once again, crafting bags should only be for ESO+ members.

ESO+ desperately needs more reasons for people to get it.

ESO+ used to have a GREAT reason to pay for it: a subscription used to be the ONLY way to play the game! But then ZOS changed all that with their unwanted and unwelcome B2P "Tamriel Unlimited" scheme. B2P does have some advantages for the player, but those advantages fall apart if ZOS start doing "pay us or else" stuff like this crafting bag.

ZOS really needs to decide if ESO is a B2P/DLC game or a pay-to-play subscription game. Tricking people into feeling like they have to pay for both is lame.

Elsonso

@Gidorick
I stay well away from "Inventory Management : Tamriel Edition" because I am not interested in that game. Like every RPG I have everr played, I prioritize what I want to carry and I have little issue with inventory management.

Other people might play that game, but ESO is not broken because they do. Like everyone, they have to live within the limits of the game.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Gidorick wrote: »

So it's a case of "everyone should play like you play"?

I don't like spending 30 minutes every play session shuffling the crap I picked up out of my bag and into my bank. Then clearing items out of my bank to make room for the stuff I want to put in. Not everyone wants to play "Inventory Management: Tamriel Edition".

No, you don't HAVE to play like I play... but when it comes to inventory management... maybe you should ?

Because I don't spend 30 minutes every play session shuffling stuff between bank / bag and alts. Maybe 5 minutes every 2 hours and I *always* go off to the field with at least 80 empty slots (on my main) and 140 empty slots (on my 2 other chars).
All this while farming *everything* I come across, mastering ALL crafts on ALL chracters and sorting everything for resale in my guild stores. And carrying at least 2 complete sets (for different builds) on each char. And keeping a stack of ALL style mats, even the basic ones. Oh, and I have plenty of costumes too. Not crown store costumes, game costumes, the ones you have to carry in your inventory.
So yes you must be doing something wrong.

People who cannot manage inventory (or don't want to give it a thought or effort) won't be able to manage it with crafting bags either.

Gidorick

lordrichter wrote: »

@Gidorick
I stay well away from "Inventory Management : Tamriel Edition" because I am not interested in that game. Like every RPG I have everr played, I prioritize what I want to carry and I have little issue with inventory management.

Other people might play that game, but ESO is not broken because they do. Like everyone, they have to live within the limits of the game.

That is a fair point @lordrichter , we do have to play within the constraints of the game. ZOS is now loosening those constrictions that people have complained about but they are requiring people to pay monthly to have those limits raised.

Players no longer have to live within the limits of the current inventory, but they must be ESO+ subscribers to do so.

• There is a perceived problem (again, I'm not making that up for this argument.)
• ZOS adds a feature to fix that problem.
• ZOS requires a monthly payment to use that feature.

I don't see how anyone has a hard time understanding why someone may have an issue with that.

And some of us are packrats... I'm one. If I come across something I can grab to deconstruct or sell... I want to take it with me. This is how I play the game. This is how I have played every Elder Scrolls game. Should I change my "play-style" to accommodate ESO or should ZOS add features to ESO to accommodate my play style?

Keep in mind, this isn't unusual for TES players.