Compilation of TG bugs in PvP [Current Bug Counter: 89] OP reformatted 4/10/16

  • themdogesbite
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Anyone actually going to BDO is going to be sorely disappointed as the P2W elements begin to surface, as always they do in Korean MMOs. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.

    Even if thats the case and i decide to return to ESO, its not like i've fallen behind in anything anyways. :D
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  • Satiar
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Anyone actually going to BDO is going to be sorely disappointed as the P2W elements begin to surface, as always they do in Korean MMOs. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.

    Even if thats the case and i decide to return to ESO, its not like i've fallen behind in anything anyways. :D

    Oh ya I blame no one for going. If I thought there was a decent game to move the guild to I would. But considering the game in its native form, and looking back at every single other imported MMO like this one, I can't pull the trigger. Not even a lil bit.

    The thing is also, the lag here sucks so bad but when you get a good fight... It still feels amazing. If the game worked right all the time I feel I could overlook literally anything else
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  • Xsorus
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    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    I know its been a while since I played my Magicka DK...

    But something just feels off when my 9k delve Powerlash does 1.8k non crit....

    Sounds like a block. My whip seems to be doing ~4k non crits and I'm not running a super high damage set up.

    I don't think it was blocked..My thing shows when my damage is blocked and what not.

    I'm thinking its just Reactive

  • Manoekin
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    I just want to state for the record:

    Those saying Wrecking Blow ,Dragon Leap etc doing less damage....remember i posted that thread on the PTS about Impenetrable needing addressed? Welcome to new meta.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/246089/impentrable-armor-trait-needs-to-be-adjusted/p1

    Everyone is now wearing gold Impentrable Gear and has Resistant maxed...its a NO BRAINER to do this if your not a Bastion Shield Stacking Sorc....Resistant reduces ALL FORMS OF DAMAGE because it mitigates Crits regardless of the source and also has an Armor Trait to make it even better, there is no reason in PVP not to do this. Most non-crits are manageable crits however make up the majority of burst damage that kills you or allows you to kill players.

    100 points in Resistant and gold Impen gear lowers your crit modifier below the 1.5 patch base crit value of 1.5. In 1.6 they raised it to 2.03, your crits are hitting for less damage then they were in 1.5.

    Sadly i tried to get this fixed along with making damage shields critable on the PTS, but ZOS wouldn't listen to my feedback about how OP both of these things are...so i guess you will have to deal with the Impenetrable and Crit mitigation stacking meta for the next 6 months...

    Pretty much anyone who isn't a Bastion Sorc stacking shields(Shields give crit immunity) will be stacking the tar out of Resistant and Impenetrable, and i said Stamina builds would suffer the most from this and it appears i was spot on. :(

    ahh well maybe this will be fixed come Dark Brotherhood, be a long wait though. I tried...sorry it didn't get addressed.:(



    In 1.5 you simply didn't crit because impen worked differently than it now does. The way impen now works is infinitely better than the attacking player than it was in 1.5, so I don't really see what point you're making.
  • Xsorus
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    Zheg wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    I know its been a while since I played my Magicka DK...

    But something just feels off when my 9k delve Powerlash does 1.8k non crit....

    Who were you hitting? I'm full impen LA and maxed CP and I got hit much harder than that.

    I'm thinking maybe the person had reactive armor; it was mojin or whatever (think Templar) but the bloody axe bleed was ticking harder then my power lash... So I'm thinking maybe reactive armor was the culprit
    If it was just the one example, you could have had minor maim on you as well. Reactive has a pretty noticeable aura when it procs, though if your experience was anything like mine last night on TF, the lag was real.

    The more likely explanation though was that he was in his OP Templar house, you tried to come inside, and it was bad for you xD

    Yea I died badly; my damage was non existant and he was hitting me with light attack/bash/wrecking blow combo..I remember blocking and eating 5 hits at once and my stamina just going bye bye lol... Right now i'm trying Elfbane Setup on the DK but i don't know...Damage is feels kind of blah....Might just go back to Stamina and Shieldbreaker with bow (Lethal Arrow Sounds nice)

    Mainly cause I'm seeing Sorcs still being the biggest threat (though Stamina Templars can *** wreck ya super quick still)
  • Zheg
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    I just want to state for the record:

    Those saying Wrecking Blow ,Dragon Leap etc doing less damage....remember i posted that thread on the PTS about Impenetrable needing addressed? Welcome to new meta.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/246089/impentrable-armor-trait-needs-to-be-adjusted/p1

    Everyone is now wearing gold Impentrable Gear and has Resistant maxed...its a NO BRAINER to do this if your not a Bastion Shield Stacking Sorc....Resistant reduces ALL FORMS OF DAMAGE because it mitigates Crits regardless of the source and also has an Armor Trait to make it even better, there is no reason in PVP not to do this. Most non-crits are manageable crits however make up the majority of burst damage that kills you or allows you to kill players.

    100 points in Resistant and gold Impen gear lowers your crit modifier below the 1.5 patch base crit value of 1.5. In 1.6 they raised it to 2.03, your crits are hitting for less damage then they were in 1.5.

    Sadly i tried to get this fixed along with making damage shields critable on the PTS, but ZOS wouldn't listen to my feedback about how OP both of these things are...so i guess you will have to deal with the Impenetrable and Crit mitigation stacking meta for the next 6 months...

    Pretty much anyone who isn't a Bastion Sorc stacking shields(Shields give crit immunity) will be stacking the tar out of Resistant and Impenetrable, and i said Stamina builds would suffer the most from this and it appears i was spot on. :(

    ahh well maybe this will be fixed come Dark Brotherhood, be a long wait though. I tried...sorry it didn't get addressed.:(


    I'm not in favor of it being so drastically better than other options because then people just cookie cutter, but I'm also not in favor of the 1 sec burst kills. I find that to be atrocious balance. Even though impen might be a problem, I find the scaling on prox det and potential to crit to be even larger problems. Damage should not be that high, and the only reason experienced players arent blowing up is because they're in impen when the bombs go off. Damage has gone up, most mitigation options have gone down, and hp pools have remained stagnant. Making the matter worse is having these dmg numbers in a game plagued by lag, bugs, and unresponsiveness.

    Anyway, stam builds won't be that bad, just spam bombard like everyone else is doing and GG. At least they can afford to cast shuffle xD
  • Satiar
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    I know its been a while since I played my Magicka DK...

    But something just feels off when my 9k delve Powerlash does 1.8k non crit....

    Who were you hitting? I'm full impen LA and maxed CP and I got hit much harder than that.

    I'm thinking maybe the person had reactive armor; it was mojin or whatever (think Templar) but the bloody axe bleed was ticking harder then my power lash... So I'm thinking maybe reactive armor was the culprit
    If it was just the one example, you could have had minor maim on you as well. Reactive has a pretty noticeable aura when it procs, though if your experience was anything like mine last night on TF, the lag was real.

    The more likely explanation though was that he was in his OP Templar house, you tried to come inside, and it was bad for you xD

    Yea I died badly; my damage was non existant and he was hitting me with light attack/bash/wrecking blow combo..I remember blocking and eating 5 hits at once and my stamina just going bye bye lol... Right now i'm trying Elfbane Setup on the DK but i don't know...Damage is feels kind of blah....Might just go back to Stamina and Shieldbreaker with bow (Lethal Arrow Sounds nice)

    Mainly cause I'm seeing Sorcs still being the biggest threat (though Stamina Templars can *** wreck ya super quick still)

    Ya Stam burst builds will still work decently well. He did the same to me yesterday. I barely got off my horse before the animation canceled hits tore through 32k hp lol.

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  • HoloYoitsu
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    I know its been a while since I played my Magicka DK...

    But something just feels off when my 9k delve Powerlash does 1.8k non crit....

    Who were you hitting? I'm full impen LA and maxed CP and I got hit much harder than that.

    I'm thinking maybe the person had reactive armor; it was mojin or whatever (think Templar) but the bloody axe bleed was ticking harder then my power lash... So I'm thinking maybe reactive armor was the culprit
    If it was just the one example, you could have had minor maim on you as well. Reactive has a pretty noticeable aura when it procs, though if your experience was anything like mine last night on TF, the lag was real.

    The more likely explanation though was that he was in his OP Templar house, you tried to come inside, and it was bad for you xD

    Yea I died badly; my damage was non existant and he was hitting me with light attack/bash/wrecking blow combo..I remember blocking and eating 5 hits at once and my stamina just going bye bye lol... Right now i'm trying Elfbane Setup on the DK but i don't know...Damage is feels kind of blah....Might just go back to Stamina and Shieldbreaker with bow (Lethal Arrow Sounds nice)

    Mainly cause I'm seeing Sorcs still being the biggest threat (though Stamina Templars can *** wreck ya super quick still)

    Ya Stam burst builds will still work decently well. He did the same to me yesterday. I barely got off my horse before the animation canceled hits tore through 32k hp lol.
    Sounds like he offered you a fair duel.
    Edited by HoloYoitsu on March 8, 2016 9:47PM
  • Satiar
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    I know its been a while since I played my Magicka DK...

    But something just feels off when my 9k delve Powerlash does 1.8k non crit....

    Who were you hitting? I'm full impen LA and maxed CP and I got hit much harder than that.

    I'm thinking maybe the person had reactive armor; it was mojin or whatever (think Templar) but the bloody axe bleed was ticking harder then my power lash... So I'm thinking maybe reactive armor was the culprit
    If it was just the one example, you could have had minor maim on you as well. Reactive has a pretty noticeable aura when it procs, though if your experience was anything like mine last night on TF, the lag was real.

    The more likely explanation though was that he was in his OP Templar house, you tried to come inside, and it was bad for you xD

    Yea I died badly; my damage was non existant and he was hitting me with light attack/bash/wrecking blow combo..I remember blocking and eating 5 hits at once and my stamina just going bye bye lol... Right now i'm trying Elfbane Setup on the DK but i don't know...Damage is feels kind of blah....Might just go back to Stamina and Shieldbreaker with bow (Lethal Arrow Sounds nice)

    Mainly cause I'm seeing Sorcs still being the biggest threat (though Stamina Templars can *** wreck ya super quick still)

    Ya Stam burst builds will still work decently well. He did the same to me yesterday. I barely got off my horse before the animation canceled hits tore through 32k hp lol.
    Sounds like he offered you a fair duel.

    I lold so hard when I heard that.

    One of these days I need to put an open world build together for magica NB. I love the AOE burst but it is soooooo bad solo.
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Just want to let you all know that we have been watching this thread, and are currently going through the list on the first page to confirm any new/existing bugs, and seeing what we need more information on.
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  • Zheg
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    Satiar wrote: »
    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    I know its been a while since I played my Magicka DK...

    But something just feels off when my 9k delve Powerlash does 1.8k non crit....

    Who were you hitting? I'm full impen LA and maxed CP and I got hit much harder than that.

    I'm thinking maybe the person had reactive armor; it was mojin or whatever (think Templar) but the bloody axe bleed was ticking harder then my power lash... So I'm thinking maybe reactive armor was the culprit
    If it was just the one example, you could have had minor maim on you as well. Reactive has a pretty noticeable aura when it procs, though if your experience was anything like mine last night on TF, the lag was real.

    The more likely explanation though was that he was in his OP Templar house, you tried to come inside, and it was bad for you xD

    Yea I died badly; my damage was non existant and he was hitting me with light attack/bash/wrecking blow combo..I remember blocking and eating 5 hits at once and my stamina just going bye bye lol... Right now i'm trying Elfbane Setup on the DK but i don't know...Damage is feels kind of blah....Might just go back to Stamina and Shieldbreaker with bow (Lethal Arrow Sounds nice)

    Mainly cause I'm seeing Sorcs still being the biggest threat (though Stamina Templars can *** wreck ya super quick still)

    Ya Stam burst builds will still work decently well. He did the same to me yesterday. I barely got off my horse before the animation canceled hits tore through 32k hp lol.
    Sounds like he offered you a fair duel.

    I lold so hard when I heard that.

    One of these days I need to put an open world build together for magica NB. I love the AOE burst but it is soooooo bad solo.

    Why do you think I created trollplar? Try soloing open world on a healer spec :wink:

    Being able to troll almost as well as Kirsi was also a factor.
  • Manoekin
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    Just want to let you all know that we have been watching this thread, and are currently going through the list on the first page to confirm any new/existing bugs, and seeing what we need more information on.

    Nice
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    #million reasons to play console
  • Dyride
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    @HoloYoitsu @ZOS_GinaBruno Roughly every 10-15 casts of Streak it doesn't go off at all. This was while harvesting mats in Hew's Bane.
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    1. Xeven
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      Xsorus wrote: »
      I know its been a while since I played my Magicka DK...

      But something just feels off when my 9k delve Powerlash does 1.8k non crit....

      This is how magic has been for the last six months. Garbage.
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      Ghost-Shot wrote: »
      Xsorus wrote: »
      I know its been a while since I played my Magicka DK...

      But something just feels off when my 9k delve Powerlash does 1.8k non crit....

      Sounds like a block. My whip seems to be doing ~4k non crits and I'm not running a super high damage set up.

      It 100% depends on who you are hitting, how much spell resistance they have, and how many cp they have into magic mitigation.

      In some cases youll be hitting for 1/4 of your tooltip.
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      Satiar wrote: »
      HoloYoitsu wrote: »
      Satiar wrote: »
      Xsorus wrote: »
      Zheg wrote: »
      Xsorus wrote: »
      Satiar wrote: »
      Xsorus wrote: »
      I know its been a while since I played my Magicka DK...

      But something just feels off when my 9k delve Powerlash does 1.8k non crit....

      Who were you hitting? I'm full impen LA and maxed CP and I got hit much harder than that.

      I'm thinking maybe the person had reactive armor; it was mojin or whatever (think Templar) but the bloody axe bleed was ticking harder then my power lash... So I'm thinking maybe reactive armor was the culprit
      If it was just the one example, you could have had minor maim on you as well. Reactive has a pretty noticeable aura when it procs, though if your experience was anything like mine last night on TF, the lag was real.

      The more likely explanation though was that he was in his OP Templar house, you tried to come inside, and it was bad for you xD

      Yea I died badly; my damage was non existant and he was hitting me with light attack/bash/wrecking blow combo..I remember blocking and eating 5 hits at once and my stamina just going bye bye lol... Right now i'm trying Elfbane Setup on the DK but i don't know...Damage is feels kind of blah....Might just go back to Stamina and Shieldbreaker with bow (Lethal Arrow Sounds nice)

      Mainly cause I'm seeing Sorcs still being the biggest threat (though Stamina Templars can *** wreck ya super quick still)

      Ya Stam burst builds will still work decently well. He did the same to me yesterday. I barely got off my horse before the animation canceled hits tore through 32k hp lol.
      Sounds like he offered you a fair duel.

      I lold so hard when I heard that.

      One of these days I need to put an open world build together for magica NB. I love the AOE burst but it is soooooo bad solo.

      I have a Imperial Templar..but i'm not leveling any new toons past VR1 till Dark Brotherhood...I'm that lazy.

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      Just want to let you all know that we have been watching this thread, and are currently going through the list on the first page to confirm any new/existing bugs, and seeing what we need more information on.

      Now that more gap closers are affected by the Toppling Charge bug, is there hope for a fix?
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      Just want to let you all know that we have been watching this thread, and are currently going through the list on the first page to confirm any new/existing bugs, and seeing what we need more information on.

      Have you looked into eso.exe? its been bugged for soooo long.
    6. Jhunn
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      You should put cloak on this list. Took me 5 min in PvP to see it is [snip] like pre 1.6. DoT = constant break
      Edited by ZOS_KatP on February 16, 2018 9:43PM
      Gave up.
    7. HoloYoitsu
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      Jhunn wrote: »
      You should put cloak on this list. Took me 5 min in PvP to see it is [snip] like pre 1.6. DoT = constant break
      Can you elaborate which dot skills specifically so I can add it to the list?
      Edited by ZOS_KatP on February 16, 2018 9:43PM
    8. qrichou
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      sounds like the normal stuff i have with my templar .on xbox .eu
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      because its possible
    9. Jhunn
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      HoloYoitsu wrote: »
      Jhunn wrote: »
      You should put cloak on this list. Took me 5 min in PvP to see it is [snip] like pre 1.6. DoT = constant break
      Can you elaborate which dot skills specifically so I can add it to the list?
      I only played 1 hour before I got sick of it and quit so I haven't tested specific skills. Will do later tomorrow though
      Edited by ZOS_KatP on February 16, 2018 9:44PM
      Gave up.
    10. Wollust
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      Can't we just have a rollback? Is that even possible?

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      19. Clouding swarm: broken in so many ways... first off the animations changed and your char disappears after ~1 second, damn annoying in "oh crap" moments. When you're revealed by flare, inner light, mark (and I think detect pot aswell) you cant see your char but the ennemies can, so you actually dont know whether you are invisible to your ennemies or not. Finally and probably the worst,if you tabtarget somebody you can still target him even if he uses clouding swarm without any revealing skill.
      R.I.P Clouding swarm, will be missed
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    12. Dan_Fazzyub17_ESO
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      I feel this is relevant to the current discussion.

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    13. Hyssia
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      HoloYoitsu wrote: »
      Edit 2:
      18. Rapid Regen has no global cooldown, you can spam it as fast as you can macro the button!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txYncSkFo8U

      taresgos be like "IS IT CHRISTMAS ALREADY?!?!?!"
    14. reften
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      Is it time to cut the eso cord...
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      Azuras & Trueflame. Mostly PvP, No alts.

      Semi-retired till the lag is fixed.

      Love the Packers, Bourbon, and ESO...one of those will eventually kill me.
    15. FriedEggSandwich
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      Derra wrote: »
      The sprint speed wasn't a stealth nerf, it's in the patch notes. Base sprint speed was nerfed but major expedition speed was buffed. Don't understand the thinking behind it though.

      Major expedition was nerfed while sprint speed was buffed. However normal speed should not be affected at all.

      Yeah I acknowledged the error in a later post. I have also noticed slower base speed since playing. Agree this has to be a bug as it wasn't a change that was listed.
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    16. Frenkthevile
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      Unplayable. Well, gotta go farm on BDO till next week, cya.
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