Multiple Mundus Stones

ku5h

Anhedonie wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

well no comment :')

In most mmo people get banned for this. And I'm not talking about mundus stones.

Most mmos have arenas, so players dont have to form their own fight clubs!

Lava_Croft

This bug actually occurs by accident for a lot of people. We've had a guild member that needed several months of nagging ZOS for them to finally fix it for his character.

azoriangaming

Xantaria wrote: »

well no comment :')

lol corrie's has this bug he got it while levelling picking up mundus's as he came to them and he has no idea how he got it.

Kippesnikke

rdbrown1987 wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

well no comment :')

lol corrie's has this bug he got it while levelling picking up mundus's as he came to them and he has no idea how he got it.

very inconvenient for a pvp player

Xantaria

rdbrown1987 wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

well no comment :')

lol corrie's has this bug he got it while levelling picking up mundus's as he came to them and he has no idea how he got it.

Yes he got it like everybody else. But he did realize it and then proceeded to pick more (because there is literally no reason for an experienced player to pick 6 different mundus (also it takes a LOT of annoyances until you finally get all 6, especially when you want specific ones from what I heard from another player who has 7). But well this thread was made to bring more attention to the topic because this is the major issue with ZOS and fixing bugs: As long as nobody really cares about it we are NOT going to see a fix. I'm not saying we should ban the exploiters or shame them or start a witch hunt. I just want even grounds for competition in PvE and PvP. And I think the thread did achieve what it was supposed to do: A little wake up call and probably a bump on ZOS priority list of fixing bugs.

I'm probably on the borderline of being banned with all my threads about Bugs and Exploits but I guess somebody has to risk his account after all or nothing will be done.

Thanks everyone for participating here and voicing.

Lava_Croft

Having the bug is one thing, entering PvP with it is another.

Egonieser

I re-enabled the subsetting in S'rendarr so i can now see target mundus boons and holy hell, i came across 2 people last night abusing this.
I mean it's not a small issue by any means. For me even 1 mundus boon gives a huge boost, but having 8?? Especially if you have all Divines traits.
Mini emperor buff right there and permanently on. And the sad thing is - i saw many on the chat talking about this and trying to get the exploit to work as if it's a normal occurance, and their reasoning was: "Well, ZoS never bans exploiters anyway so why not" Sad days...

Xantaria

Egonieser wrote: »

I re-enabled the subsetting in S'rendarr so i can now see target mundus boons and holy hell, i came across 2 people last night abusing this.
I mean it's not a small issue by any means. For me even 1 mundus boon gives a huge boost, but having 8?? Especially if you have all Divines traits.
Mini emperor buff right there and permanently on. And the sad thing is - i saw many on the chat talking about this and trying to get the exploit to work as if it's a normal occurance, and their reasoning was: "Well, ZoS never bans exploiters anyway so why not" Sad days...

Yep. Pretty much this.

Jura23

Xantaria wrote: »

rdbrown1987 wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

well no comment :')

lol corrie's has this bug he got it while levelling picking up mundus's as he came to them and he has no idea how he got it.

Yes he got it like everybody else. But he did realize it and then proceeded to pick more (because there is literally no reason for an experienced player to pick 6 different mundus (also it takes a LOT of annoyances until you finally get all 6, especially when you want specific ones from what I heard from another player who has 7). But well this thread was made to bring more attention to the topic because this is the major issue with ZOS and fixing bugs: As long as nobody really cares about it we are NOT going to see a fix. I'm not saying we should ban the exploiters or shame them or start a witch hunt. I just want even grounds for competition in PvE and PvP. And I think the thread did achieve what it was supposed to do: A little wake up call and probably a bump on ZOS priority list of fixing bugs.

I'm probably on the borderline of being banned with all my threads about Bugs and Exploits but I guess somebody has to risk his account after all or nothing will be done.

Thanks everyone for participating here and voicing.

I can definitely see a new player not even knowing it's a bug. If he's new he might think he's supposed to collect them all.

You're right about experienced ones though.

Refuse2GrowUp

Egonieser wrote: »

"Well, ZoS never bans exploiters anyway so why not" Sad days...

THIS

This is the issue. How can you have a game with leaderboards and 'fair' competition if the devs will not enforce rules. Grow some damn balls ZOS. Temp bans for anyone egregiously abusing exploits. And then make a stickied forum thread stating that this exploit is known by the devs and players have been temporarily banned for xx number of days for using it. This lets the player base know you are taking it seriously, without naming an shaming folks.

I have been able to put up with lag, and bugs, and many game breaking issues. It is the lackadaisical attitude towards exploits, the inability or lack of desire to fix them in a timely manner, and the lack of testicular fortitude to punish offenders that has me on the verge of walking away from the game. Enough is enough!

altemriel

wait, but is it not just a bug in FTC addon? are those 8 mundus stones really active?

Heindrich

I may joke around about it sometimes, but this kinda exploit is just not acceptable in a game with any semblance of competition. I am going to do vMA today, but I am already a bit discouraged to know that there are those with a ridiculous advantage over me.

People who genuinely and accidentally get some benefit from an unknown bug is one thing, but others are clearly and deliberately creating new characters to take advantage of the exploit. These people need to be banned, ideally permanently, but at least temporarily and with a warning that future intentional exploiting will result in perma-bans.

At present I can't really blame people for being tempted into exploiting. There doesn't seem to be a consistent justice system in ESO and no accountability at all.

Brrrofski

sekhem wrote: »

Kippesnikke wrote: »

sekhem wrote: »

What am I missing? How is this an exploit? I change my mundus stone all the time. If I were on PC I imagine this would benefit me but still it's not like you have a button to click to say hey I see I have all the mundus stones cuz of a glitch, I'm turning myself in because I can't make up my mind! It's Zos problem to fix their game not your job to avoid changing your mundus just so you don't have extra mundus benefits.
Is there a reset to wipe all the mundus choices and start over? If not it's not the players fault.

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I would like some elaboration on that. My only point was no one should be banned or punished for having multiple mundus if it's Zos game that is causing the problem. To me an exploit is finding out about a certain way to set up armor sets weapons etc that gets you overpowered. Not simply changing your mundus stone which is a common part of gameplay.

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Look how many mundus stones they have in the screenshot. Nobody changes it that much. Between two or three, yeh. Not all of them.

Xantaria

altemriel wrote: »

wait, but is it not just a bug in FTC addon? are those 8 mundus stones really active?

I can 100% confirm this is not a bug with any Addon. I have even played on an account who got 7 Mundus Stones for an hour. And I can definiely tell they are real and all their bonuses apply.

If you see somebody with more than 2 mundus dispalyed by any bufftracking Addon, then yes this guy does have more than he should be able to have. Be it accidentally or on purpose.

Lava_Croft

Don't bother complaining about competitive gameplay and exploits. ZOS has proven in the past that exploiting is not a problem at all and in fact it's part of being a top tier player in the minds of some.

RAGUNAnoOne

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Egonieser wrote: »

"Well, ZoS never bans exploiters anyway so why not" Sad days...

THIS

This is the issue. How can you have a game with leaderboards and 'fair' competition if the devs will not enforce rules. Grow some damn balls ZOS. Temp bans for anyone egregiously abusing exploits. And then make a stickied forum thread stating that this exploit is known by the devs and players have been temporarily banned for xx number of days for using it. This lets the player base know you are taking it seriously, without naming an shaming folks.

I have been able to put up with lag, and bugs, and many game breaking issues. It is the lackadaisical attitude towards exploits, the inability or lack of desire to fix them in a timely manner, and the lack of testicular fortitude to punish offenders that has me on the verge of walking away from the game. Enough is enough!

Especially if you make the bans and warnings for in-game offenses public like the nexus mods page. List ID, server, reason and punishment, nothing like public humiliation to detour some potential cheaters.

Xantaria

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Egonieser wrote: »

"Well, ZoS never bans exploiters anyway so why not" Sad days...

THIS

This is the issue. How can you have a game with leaderboards and 'fair' competition if the devs will not enforce rules. Grow some damn balls ZOS. Temp bans for anyone egregiously abusing exploits. And then make a stickied forum thread stating that this exploit is known by the devs and players have been temporarily banned for xx number of days for using it. This lets the player base know you are taking it seriously, without naming an shaming folks.

I have been able to put up with lag, and bugs, and many game breaking issues. It is the lackadaisical attitude towards exploits, the inability or lack of desire to fix them in a timely manner, and the lack of testicular fortitude to punish offenders that has me on the verge of walking away from the game. Enough is enough!

Especially if you make the bans and warnings for in-game offenses public like the nexus mods page. List ID, server, reason and punishment, nothing like public humiliation to detour some potential cheaters.

This kind of banlist is what a game I played in the past had. It was very good in my opinion.

Daishichi

Awesome...meanwhile, my 9-trait Twice Born set can't retain a second boon even if I swap gear, let alone log off.

altemriel

I would definitelly report those players who exploit this bug!

THIS IS AN ANOTHER MAJOR BUG ZOS, PLEASE FIX IT ASAP!!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @Wrobel

Xantaria

Daishichi wrote: »

Awesome...meanwhile, my 9-trait Twice Born set can't retain a second boon even if I swap gear, let alone log off.

If you use an Addon for switching your gear the Mundus will stay as long as you still have 5 TBS on after the switch. (If you swap manually be careful to always have 5 pieces on.)

Logging off has never cancelled my second mundus.

Just remember to not use TBS Weapons because you will loose one Mundus if you Weapon Swap if your TBS setup changes with it.

altemriel

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Egonieser wrote: »

"Well, ZoS never bans exploiters anyway so why not" Sad days...

THIS

This is the issue. How can you have a game with leaderboards and 'fair' competition if the devs will not enforce rules. Grow some damn balls ZOS. Temp bans for anyone egregiously abusing exploits. And then make a stickied forum thread stating that this exploit is known by the devs and players have been temporarily banned for xx number of days for using it. This lets the player base know you are taking it seriously, without naming an shaming folks.

I have been able to put up with lag, and bugs, and many game breaking issues. It is the lackadaisical attitude towards exploits, the inability or lack of desire to fix them in a timely manner, and the lack of testicular fortitude to punish offenders that has me on the verge of walking away from the game. Enough is enough!

Especially if you make the bans and warnings for in-game offenses public like the nexus mods page. List ID, server, reason and punishment, nothing like public humiliation to detour some potential cheaters.

exactly!!

Kilandros

#NoETA

FlyLeaf30

Anhedonie wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

well no comment :')

In most mmo people get banned for this. And I'm not talking about mundus stones.

What if they are dueling, no ban right for that.

Xantaria

FlyLeaf30 wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

well no comment :')

In most mmo people get banned for this. And I'm not talking about mundus stones.

What if they are dueling, no ban right for that.

I know where and when this screenshot was taken and yes, this is dueling.

MormondPayne_EP

Just when I thought it could not get any worse [snip]

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Xantaria

MormondPayne_EP wrote: »

Just when I thought it could not get any worse [snip].

... just when you thought that you realized they are pushing ahead with another DLC that will introduce a ton of more issues before fixing the old issues.

Then you noticed that there were no fixes this week and you ask yourself if leaving a game broken is the right way.

Then you noticed that the only patch that was supposed to fix bugs recently intorduced 1 new exploit 1 new bug and 1 fix that didn't work.

and you cry, silently, because you see the game that you once loved being a pile a of bugs and exploits that don't get adressed.

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LiquidSchwartz

Jura23 wrote: »

Really no green post in this thread? Really?

Mope just mods removing posts lol

OGLezard

At this point it is obvious they are just milking the game for money. Look at the issues and exploits around since beta phase 1 and how most are still here today. Then look at all the new ones that get introduced and never fixed. Now we get shiny new things to distract us so we forget about the bad being more than the good. I would love to have this game be exploit free or AT THE VERY LEAST exploits be to a minimum.

I have this odd feeling though that it will never happen.

Lava_Croft

As long as the Crown Store keeps functioning flawlessly, ZOS sees no problems.

Ruben

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

Jura23 wrote: »

Really no green post in this thread? Really?

Mope just mods removing posts lol

Did you miss this?

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Everyone, we are actively investigating this issue and are working with affected players. If you have additional information, either how to reproduce this or know someone that has this currently on their character, please message a staff member privately and refrain from discussing details publicly. Thanks!