Multiple Mundus Stones

Solid_Metal

Reevster wrote: »

Why are everyone night blades? Sad to see 95 percent on PvP is NBs , Why bother allowing other classes in to PvP, make it NB only , then they can surprise attack each other.

because NB is OP on PVP

Yolokin_Swagonborn

SirDopey wrote: »

Whatzituyah wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

we should probably get zos to prioritize this exploit... i mean honestly, is it really that difficult to limit players to 1 mundus stone

There is a set that can give you 2 mudus stones called "twice born star set" but yeah if this one is a glitch where you can have more than one without the set its gotta be fixed. Probably make the server check if they only have 1 stone effect without set and 2 with set.

He's got 8 mundus on - that ain't TBS.....

These are the type of players that tell you to L2P. L2P often means "learn to exploit like my guild does all the while pretending we are super good at the game."

Refuse2GrowUp

Different dev teams define 'exploit' differently. However, the common theme is that the player must do something intentional that is in additional to a normal sequence of events, or purposely triggering a sequence of events that provides an unintended consequence that provides the player(s) an unfair advantage.

I can assure you, the player in the picture likely did not accidentally, randomly try 8 different mundus stones, as most players will likely only try three, maybe four, for a specific build. A brand new player to the game may be able to plead ignorance; a seasoned player with multiple toons, that understands the game's mechanics certainly would not be able to plead ignorance. The devs could easily see who has multiple mundus stones. An easy algorithm can easily sort who is likely deliberately cheating and who may be naive. Simply, if you created a new toon to take advantage of this exploit, you should be temp banned. If you used this exploit to get on leaderboards and/or do something like beat vMSA, you should not only be temp banned, but also have your account rolled back to when you created that toon and started using it to exploit the system. Enough is enough. Exploits in this game are already out of control, and if ZOS doesn't begin to take things seriously, it will ruin the longevity of the game.

Xantaria

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Different dev teams define 'exploit' differently. However, the common theme is that the player must do something intentional that is in additional to a normal sequence of events, or purposely triggering a sequence of events that provides an unintended consequence that provides the player(s) an unfair advantage.

I can assure you, the player in the picture likely did not accidentally, randomly try 8 different mundus stones, as most players will likely only try three, maybe four, for a specific build. A brand new player to the game may be able to plead ignorance; a seasoned player with multiple toons, that understands the game's mechanics certainly would not be able to plead ignorance. The devs could easily see who has multiple mundus stones. An easy algorithm can easily sort who is likely deliberately cheating and who may be naive. Simply, if you created a new toon to take advantage of this exploit, you should be temp banned. If you used this exploit to get on leaderboards and/or do something like beat vMSA, you should not only be temp banned, but also have your account rolled back to when you created that toon and started using it to exploit the system. Enough is enough. Exploits in this game are already out of control, and if ZOS doesn't begin to take things seriously, it will ruin the longevity of the game.

ALthough I know people who exploit this on leaderboards would of course do everything to hide it I don't know of a case of people exploiting it in leaderboards. in PvP however it's everywhere. And it won't take long for the PvE leaderboards to be taken over by exploiters.

Sharmony

Xantaria wrote: »

ALthough I know people who exploit this on leaderboards would of course do everything to hide it I don't know of a case of people exploiting it in leaderboards. in PvP however it's everywhere. And it won't take long for the PvE leaderboards to be taken over by exploiters.

I have to agree. Being privileged to know many of the top guilds for PvE in EU & NA I havn't heard of any individuals doing something like this. Regardless, levelling is only a matter of time, and if the picture is anything to go by this may A] Not be the only person and B] not be long until some individuals might be using this at max level.

Kippesnikke

@ZOS_GinaBruno any information from zenimax side about plans to fix this?

Destruent

Is there any way for the player with more than 1 (2) mundusstones to reset them and only have one again?

Anyways: @ZOS Fix this sh**!

failkiwib16_ESO

@Refuse2GrowUp i think it is unfair if Zenimax punished players for using exploits, when it's their own game that allows these loop holes.

Beside that, I've known v16's that played since release, who on occasion ask me questions like "where is our auction house located?". Not everyone who have played this game for a long time are aware of its "exploits" and faults.

Tooltips not showing correct information. Some sets giving higher buffs than said in description etc.

Xantaria

Destruent wrote: »

Is there any way for the player with more than 1 (2) mundusstones to reset them and only have one again?

Anyways: @ZOS Fix this sh**!

I think it is possible yes. By equipping and unequipping the Twice Born Star set multiple tiems until you are down to 1 Mundus Stone COULD work. However this is just a theory.

Tonnopesce

Why i'm the last one to know tricks like this??????

I've could have won a couple of fight with this cheat and the AC abuse... XD

Xantaria

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Why i'm the last one to know tricks like this??????

I've could have won a couple of fight with this cheat and the AC abuse... XD

AC is not an abuse (as stated by the developers). Having all Mundus Stones however is not intended by the developers.

Tonnopesce

Xantaria wrote: »

Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »

Why i'm the last one to know tricks like this??????

I've could have won a couple of fight with this cheat and the AC abuse... XD

AC is not an abuse (as stated by the developers). Having all Mundus Stones however is not intended by the developers.

That's your opinion unfortunately, but is not the point of the thread.

What i believe is that if many ( except me.... as usual) are able to replicate and use this " bug" zos should know how to do it too, and they should provide a hotfix or something IMHO

Rune_Relic

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

@Refuse2GrowUp i think it is unfair if Zenimax punished players for using exploits, when it's their own game that allows these loop holes.

Beside that, I've known v16's that played since release, who on occasion ask me questions like "where is our auction house located?". Not everyone who have played this game for a long time are aware of its "exploits" and faults.

Tooltips not showing correct information. Some sets giving higher buffs than said in description etc.

Agreed..Theres at least 3 versions of the game being played at the moment.

1. The innocent and naïve players that accept tooltips as gospel and playing the game thinking that's how it actually works.
2. The PTS testers who know what's busted and broken and refuse to cheese the system and try to play fair and bug report.
3. The PTS testers who know what's busted and broken and exploit the arse out of anything and everything they can.

I prefer to play game version 1 myself and stay off of PTS and try to believe ignorance is bliss.
Quite a few play game version 2.
The majority seem to play game version 3.

Broken penetration, multiple mundus, multiple procs and proc stacking....it never seems to end with another worm popping its head out the woodwork every week.

Idinuse

Xantaria wrote: »

Just posting this here from another forum:

FluffiestOne wrote: »

Was uh... watching a friend play the game.... tried to give the game another shot...

This is what i've discovered:




Thanks @ZOS_MattFiror now I can go drink my coffee instead of play your game.

Yes those Mundus Stones are all functional. I don't know how exactly 'it' works, but it can only happen on kind of new characters.

This explains alot. I'll keep an eye open and cap it too if I see it.

Septimus_Magna

The best way to get this fixed is to tell it to a famous streamer and let him make a video about it.

The overload toggle bug got fixed pretty quickly after Deltia made a video about it in which he explained how it worked.

Idinuse

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

@ZOS_MattFiror I was wondering why some really bad players have mysteriously gotten awesome in PvP recently.

Bad players are bad players even with all mundus (most likely)they won't be able to defeat a good player (but imagine those characters with lot of mundus in the right hands) hopefully the "broken mechanic" is restricted to low level characters(probably till someone figures out how to replicate it on v16 chars then the s**tstorm will start again).

"Hopefully" this mundus mess will get fixed with the next major update but who knows...

Don't put too much hope in that they are too bad players. This exploited glitch paired with 300-501CP on a VR character with the best craftable gear is going to faceroll pretty much everything that isn't also using exploits or other means to gain advantages.

RatedChaotic

Yet I see moderators editing posts in this thread but no responses. hmmmm.

BEZDNA

Destruent wrote: »

Is there any way for the player with more than 1 (2) mundusstones to reset them and only have one again?

Anyways: @ZOS Fix this sh**!

As what Xantaria sudgested. Eqiping and uneqiping 5 parts of Twice Born star will remove 1 mundoes stone from you if you have more then 1. If you have 5 mundoes stones on you, repeat that combo 4 times. That works, tested by myself.

Kippesnikke wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno any information from zenimax side about plans to fix this?

i got a pm from Gina asking if i can share any information about that exploit so they can adres that bug asap. That means ZOS is avare of these bug, or at list Gina does and it will be adressed soon. Howeawer don't expect that bug to be fixed soon, it is one of the bugs which is very hard to reproduce so it will take some time for veds to find out what actualy cous it.

Destruent

BEZDNA wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Is there any way for the player with more than 1 (2) mundusstones to reset them and only have one again?

Anyways: @ZOS Fix this sh**!

As what Xantaria sudgested. Eqiping and uneqiping 5 parts of Twice Born star will remove 1 mundoes stone from you if you have more then 1. If you have 5 mundoes stones on you, repeat that combo 4 times. That works, tested by myself.

Kippesnikke wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno any information from zenimax side about plans to fix this?

i got a pm from Gina asking if i can share any information about that exploit so they can adres that bug asap. That means ZOS is avare of these bug, or at list Gina does and it will be adressed soon. Howeawer don't expect that bug to be fixed soon, it is one of the bugs which is very hard to reproduce so it will take some time for veds to find out what actualy cous it.

Thanks, would have tested it, but i don't need to bc you already did it

Sneaky-Snurr

WTB fix to Khajiit's Carnage passive. x_x

Xantaria

Destruent wrote: »

BEZDNA wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Is there any way for the player with more than 1 (2) mundusstones to reset them and only have one again?

Anyways: @ZOS Fix this sh**!

As what Xantaria sudgested. Eqiping and uneqiping 5 parts of Twice Born star will remove 1 mundoes stone from you if you have more then 1. If you have 5 mundoes stones on you, repeat that combo 4 times. That works, tested by myself.

Kippesnikke wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno any information from zenimax side about plans to fix this?

i got a pm from Gina asking if i can share any information about that exploit so they can adres that bug asap. That means ZOS is avare of these bug, or at list Gina does and it will be adressed soon. Howeawer don't expect that bug to be fixed soon, it is one of the bugs which is very hard to reproduce so it will take some time for veds to find out what actualy cous it.

Thanks, would have tested it, but i don't need to bc you already did it

@BEZDNA @Destruent
So you have multiple Mundus and know how to get it? Because I still don't get it. :') I have seen someone getting 6 mundus stones live. But whatever he is doing, I can't reproduce it.

izJordy

inb4: they fix it but you can now buy unlimited acces to mundus stones in the crownstore..
i'm kidding don't bann me..

facts though, how eso works is.. whenever you change mundus stones it lets you replace the one you have by another.. so u can still glitch the game out and have multi mundus stones on your account.. so how do we fix this..

pff after few hours, working my ass off.. thinking.. killing my brain.. i found a solution..
limit a character to 1 mundus stone at the time..

Destruent

Xantaria wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

BEZDNA wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Is there any way for the player with more than 1 (2) mundusstones to reset them and only have one again?

Anyways: @ZOS Fix this sh**!

As what Xantaria sudgested. Eqiping and uneqiping 5 parts of Twice Born star will remove 1 mundoes stone from you if you have more then 1. If you have 5 mundoes stones on you, repeat that combo 4 times. That works, tested by myself.

Kippesnikke wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno any information from zenimax side about plans to fix this?

i got a pm from Gina asking if i can share any information about that exploit so they can adres that bug asap. That means ZOS is avare of these bug, or at list Gina does and it will be adressed soon. Howeawer don't expect that bug to be fixed soon, it is one of the bugs which is very hard to reproduce so it will take some time for veds to find out what actualy cous it.

Thanks, would have tested it, but i don't need to bc you already did it

@BEZDNA @Destruent
So you have multiple Mundus and know how to get it? Because I still don't get it. :') I have seen someone getting 6 mundus stones live. But whatever he is doing, I can't reproduce it.

I don't have, but i think @alcast has mentioned how to reproduce...can test it if it works, if you want me to

Xantaria

Destruent wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

BEZDNA wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Is there any way for the player with more than 1 (2) mundusstones to reset them and only have one again?

Anyways: @ZOS Fix this sh**!

As what Xantaria sudgested. Eqiping and uneqiping 5 parts of Twice Born star will remove 1 mundoes stone from you if you have more then 1. If you have 5 mundoes stones on you, repeat that combo 4 times. That works, tested by myself.

Kippesnikke wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno any information from zenimax side about plans to fix this?

i got a pm from Gina asking if i can share any information about that exploit so they can adres that bug asap. That means ZOS is avare of these bug, or at list Gina does and it will be adressed soon. Howeawer don't expect that bug to be fixed soon, it is one of the bugs which is very hard to reproduce so it will take some time for veds to find out what actualy cous it.

Thanks, would have tested it, but i don't need to bc you already did it

@BEZDNA @Destruent
So you have multiple Mundus and know how to get it? Because I still don't get it. :') I have seen someone getting 6 mundus stones live. But whatever he is doing, I can't reproduce it.

I don't have, but i think @alcast has mentioned how to reproduce...can test it if it works, if you want me to

I talk more with @Alcast than I talk with my Mom. The way he was mentioning is the way I got from a friend who has 7 Mundus and explained me how exactly to do it. But we were both unable to reproduce.

BEZDNA

Xantaria wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

BEZDNA wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Is there any way for the player with more than 1 (2) mundusstones to reset them and only have one again?

Anyways: @ZOS Fix this sh**!

As what Xantaria sudgested. Eqiping and uneqiping 5 parts of Twice Born star will remove 1 mundoes stone from you if you have more then 1. If you have 5 mundoes stones on you, repeat that combo 4 times. That works, tested by myself.

Kippesnikke wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno any information from zenimax side about plans to fix this?

i got a pm from Gina asking if i can share any information about that exploit so they can adres that bug asap. That means ZOS is avare of these bug, or at list Gina does and it will be adressed soon. Howeawer don't expect that bug to be fixed soon, it is one of the bugs which is very hard to reproduce so it will take some time for veds to find out what actualy cous it.

Thanks, would have tested it, but i don't need to bc you already did it

@BEZDNA @Destruent
So you have multiple Mundus and know how to get it? Because I still don't get it. :') I have seen someone getting 6 mundus stones live. But whatever he is doing, I can't reproduce it.

used to have on one char in 1.6 patch - got wiped by that 1.7 patch. and also had in 1.7-1.8 patch, not anymore romeved them a while ago with tbs set. I have no idea how to reproduce it, just got them acsidentaly while lvling new chars.

Xantaria

izJordy wrote: »

inb4: they fix it but you can now buy unlimited acces to mundus stones in the crownstore..
i'm kidding don't bann me..

facts though, how eso works is.. whenever you change mundus stones it lets you replace the one you have by another.. so u can still glitch the game out and have multi mundus stones on your account.. so how do we fix this..

pff after few hours, working my ass off.. thinking.. killing my brain.. i found a solution..
limit a character to 1 mundus stone at the time..

@izJordy
HOW did you figure out that solution??? Zenimax HIRE THIS GUY. HE KNOWS. He is legit doing all the work for you.

Whatzituyah

izJordy wrote: »

inb4: they fix it but you can now buy unlimited acces to mundus stones in the crownstore..
i'm kidding don't bann me..

facts though, how eso works is.. whenever you change mundus stones it lets you replace the one you have by another.. so u can still glitch the game out and have multi mundus stones on your account.. so how do we fix this..

pff after few hours, working my ass off.. thinking.. killing my brain.. i found a solution..
limit a character to 1 mundus stone at the time..

Wait I came up with the same thing a few posts ago but worded it differently.

Xantaria

BEZDNA wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

BEZDNA wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Is there any way for the player with more than 1 (2) mundusstones to reset them and only have one again?

Anyways: @ZOS Fix this sh**!

As what Xantaria sudgested. Eqiping and uneqiping 5 parts of Twice Born star will remove 1 mundoes stone from you if you have more then 1. If you have 5 mundoes stones on you, repeat that combo 4 times. That works, tested by myself.

Kippesnikke wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno any information from zenimax side about plans to fix this?

i got a pm from Gina asking if i can share any information about that exploit so they can adres that bug asap. That means ZOS is avare of these bug, or at list Gina does and it will be adressed soon. Howeawer don't expect that bug to be fixed soon, it is one of the bugs which is very hard to reproduce so it will take some time for veds to find out what actualy cous it.

Thanks, would have tested it, but i don't need to bc you already did it

@BEZDNA @Destruent
So you have multiple Mundus and know how to get it? Because I still don't get it. :') I have seen someone getting 6 mundus stones live. But whatever he is doing, I can't reproduce it.

used to have on one char in 1.6 patch - got wiped by that 1.7 patch. and also had in 1.7-1.8 patch, not anymore romeved them a while ago with tbs set. I have no idea how to reproduce it, just got them acsidentaly while lvling new chars.

Yeah that's how it is for most people I spoke to. But at this point I'm prettty sure people have figured out how exactly to trigger this.

Xantaria

Whatzituyah wrote: »

izJordy wrote: »

inb4: they fix it but you can now buy unlimited acces to mundus stones in the crownstore..
i'm kidding don't bann me..

facts though, how eso works is.. whenever you change mundus stones it lets you replace the one you have by another.. so u can still glitch the game out and have multi mundus stones on your account.. so how do we fix this..

pff after few hours, working my ass off.. thinking.. killing my brain.. i found a solution..
limit a character to 1 mundus stone at the time..

Wait I came up with the same thing a few posts ago but worded it differently.

@Whatzituyah
So he stole your idea? Sue him!

Rajajshka

I had this glitch on my nb once, had like 5 stones and only one of them worked. Had to ask zos to fix it since most of them didn't work and I couldn't switch back to them since the game said I already "had" them. Now I have one again.

Idk what causes the glitch.