Zos, any plans to nerf Nightblades? This is getting absurd...

Sausage

I cant take this seriously, 3 guys attack you, it doesnt matter what class you're but you will die. Also learn to block, and doge and wait when your mates kill them.

TheBull

Long long ago a young nightblade screamed and profaned ZOS. He said "If dks can tank 10 people, sorcs can bolt across the map, and templars can heal, nightblades should be able to one shot!" And it was so.

Tryxus

Wow, this thread got popular all of a sudden...

Time to make some popcorn: some sweet, some salt, some caramelized,...

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

where you run around with 20k hp.

Those are actually my preferred targets

Dude stop trying so hard, with your magicka NB you would not beat me even if a had 15k hp.
Im complaining about Stamblades.

IK you're complaining about StamBlades, but I can't help but stand up for my stamina based brothers and sisters

Oh, and I can take down even 30k+ targets except Templars apparently (unless they're Vamps)

Tryxus

TheBull wrote: »

Long long ago a young nightblade screamed and profaned ZOS. He said "If dks can tank 10 people, sorcs can bolt across the map, and templars can heal, nightblades should be able to one shot!" And it was so.

I'm gonna start with that in the Bible of NB. Call it Umbra Genesis 1:1

icontested

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

icontested wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Can't believe people are trying to defend this kind of burst in a game where you run around with 20k hp.

You know 20kHP in Cyrodiil is kind of low.

It's not.

Yeah it is actually, my NB has 32k health in Cyrodiil, my High Elf Sorceror has 21k health and he has Vr14 Green gear despite him being Vr16 and has all his attributes in Magicka yet he still has more health then you and most of his enchantments are magicka related.

All the good players run around with 20k hp. Some with even less.
If I ever get killed by a 32k health nightblade id leave the game right away.

You are a little baby and too weak to handle yourself. It makes sense why noob blades prey on you.

I eat noob blades for dinner. But balance shouldn't be made around noob players like you for example. It should be balanced around good players. As a stamplar I can't beat a stamblade 1v1 if we're equally skilled. That's it.

I'm a dk tank with 4k weapon damage. Noob blades just get in my way

TheBull

Tryxus wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

Long long ago a young nightblade screamed and profaned ZOS. He said "If dks can tank 10 people, sorcs can bolt across the map, and templars can heal, nightblades should be able to one shot!" And it was so.

I'm gonna start with that in the Bible of NB. Call it Umbra Genesis 1:1

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/93866/bats-bolt-escape-dks-none-of-it-is-op

It was written.

Lightninvash

TheBull wrote: »

Long long ago a young nightblade screamed and profaned ZOS. He said "If dks can tank 10 people, sorcs can bolt across the map, and templars can heal, nightblades should be able to one shot!" And it was so.

tbh when I read this I though of weird al's "The Saga Begins" song and read it in that type of voice it was awesome haha.

gw2only1b14_ESO

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Can't believe people are trying to defend this kind of burst in a game where you run around with 20k hp.

You know 20kHP in Cyrodiil is kind of low.

It's not.

Yeah it is actually, my NB has 32k health in Cyrodiil, my High Elf Sorceror has 21k health and he has Vr14 Green gear despite him being Vr16 and has all his attributes in Magicka yet he still has more health then you and most of his enchantments are magicka related.

All the good players run around with 20k hp. Some with even less.
If I ever get killed by a 32k health nightblade id leave the game right away.

You have never encountered a Tank in PvP before have you? I have seen players with over 45k health, I saw a guy outside cyrodiil with 58k health, no idea how he got it that high but he was probably the Emporer, look up deltia or Syphers builds, I bet there is a video somewhere of Sypher taking on several NBs at once with whatever class you use, its got nothing to do with 1 class being OP, its all about the player's skill so you might want to rethink about how good you think you actually are, because I wager you are not as skilled as you believe yourself to be.

Hehe thats a semi weak example throw in the top tier player and then the average joe.

Kinda lke tossing a lv 40 into v16 Maelstrom Arena

ZOS_Alex

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khele23eb17_ESO

zornyan wrote: »

Got insta gibbed last night be a ganker a few times, I actually beat him several times whenever I saw him and it was a n0rmaly fight, but when he was ganking I had no chance.

My death recap waa

8k Prox Det
6k lotus fan
8k concealed weapon
8k soul harvest.

This is with 31k spell resistance, 24k physical resist buffed.

Literially dead within a second, no chance to even break free of the initial stun.

This needs balancing.

I like how this is always presented. 'This class is OP because X skill/game mechanic. I beat them whenever they dont get to use X, but thats not because their class is otherwise weak/my class is otherwise stronger its because Im so skilled. Nerf X.'

PBpsy

ZOS_Alex wrote: »

Hi, everyone.

We understand that people are going to disagree from time to time, but please remember to keep your comments respectful at all times on our forums, even when you disagree with others. Insults or other disruptive behavior do not help further discussion and can move a thread off topic quickly. We encourage sharing opinions, but we ask that they are constructively stated when doing so, as this will help keep the discussion on track.

Thank you!

Why not just delete this dumb thread?

SemiD4rkness

PBpsy wrote: »

ZOS_Alex wrote: »

Hi, everyone.

We understand that people are going to disagree from time to time, but please remember to keep your comments respectful at all times on our forums, even when you disagree with others. Insults or other disruptive behavior do not help further discussion and can move a thread off topic quickly. We encourage sharing opinions, but we ask that they are constructively stated when doing so, as this will help keep the discussion on track.

Thank you!

Why not just delete this dumb thread?

dun nerf my azzazin plz buff

gw2only1b14_ESO

Here you go watch this become cookie cuuter thats it these are the only 4 you can play


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqoFgTOoYuI

robkrush

Me and my buddies got destroyed multiple times by a single nightblade in crackedwood cave yesterday. We rank in the top 10 in the PVP server every week, haderous-ps4, and didn't stand a chance agaist this guy. After we fought him 5 times, being beat to death each time, he sent us a message saying "Gg". I told him he was an excellent fighter. He sent me a screen of his character. He has over 6k weapon damage, 2200 stam regen, and 18k phys and spell resist. I can't get near these numbers with my DK. Of course most night blades aren't near this tough. I usually have more terrible with shield exploiting sorcs. True story.

Waffennacht

It's not just NBs, it's not just WB. It's the bamfness of the player.

What is BROKEN with NBs is that darn gap closer stun, combine that with fear, gg for low stamina players.

The sewers are BROKEN because there is absolutely no risk for all the reward for gankers and they have no reason not insta respawn till you die.

PvP is at LEAST 50% NB...

Alucardo

Krombie wrote: »

NB are good, The other classes are bad. Instead of making NERFING Post, do something productive and make a, "How ZOS should improve classes posts"

This guy gets it

zornyan

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

zornyan wrote: »

Got insta gibbed last night be a ganker a few times, I actually beat him several times whenever I saw him and it was a n0rmaly fight, but when he was ganking I had no chance.

My death recap waa

8k Prox Det
6k lotus fan
8k concealed weapon
8k soul harvest.

This is with 31k spell resistance, 24k physical resist buffed.

Literially dead within a second, no chance to even break free of the initial stun.

This needs balancing.

I like how this is always presented. 'This class is OP because X skill/game mechanic. I beat them whenever they dont get to use X, but thats not because their class is otherwise weak/my class is otherwise stronger its because Im so skilled. Nerf X.'

So you're saying it's fine that a lesser skilled player can beat a better play just because of the class they chose?

Molag_Crow

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they got nerfed because I know what you mean, even though I can kill most of them, unless they've got a crapload of weapon damage. I just know for a fact that any comment disagreeing here; mains a Nightblade. You won't get through to them, no matter how logical you sound.

melloni_aleb16_ESO

With my Nb stamina vt 9 ( with equip blu ahahah ) i do more damage , i can resist more , i have great survivability .. , i win 1 vx X ( ahahah )that with my stamina templar vt16 elite equip .

This game is totaly BALANCED !!!!!

I do not understand , let alone cheer football teams . A nighblade can do it all , when a class and weak or too strong is evident -.-

best gap closer
Best burst damage
best CC ( aoe )
good mobility with D.take and S. Cloak

We talk about the nighblade Magicka ? people have made high rank pvp with batswarm ( and/or M.detonation together) and concealed weapon . A ultimate that makes synergy with the main skill damage NB Magicka

And ZeniMax what it does ... NERFED the duration of the detection potion ! ahahahahahahahah . G E N I U S !

SemiD4rkness

melloni_aleb16_ESO wrote: »

With my Nb stamina vt 9 ( with equip blu ahahah ) i do more damage , i can resist more , i have great survivability .. , i win 1 vx X ( ahahah )that with my stamina templar vt16 elite equip .

This game is totaly BALANCED !!!!!

I do not understand , let alone cheer football teams . A nighblade can do it all , when a class and weak or too strong is evident -.-

best gap closer
Best burst damage
best CC ( aoe )
good mobility with D.take and S. Cloak

We talk about the nighblade Magicka ? people have made high rank pvp with batswarm ( and/or M.detonation together) and concealed weapon . A ultimate that makes synergy with the main skill damage NB Magicka

And ZeniMax what it does ... NERFED the duration of the detection potion ! ahahahahahahahah . G E N I U S !

You're wrong, you are bad stamina templar and should l2p. The reason you own with stamblade is because you suddenly transform into an elite player when playing this class.

Btw you're so right.

eliisra

Waseem wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Most people run around with 20k hp in Cyrodiil. New sets will come, cp cap will be increased this is only gonna get worse. Ambush + Surprise attack can be done in less than 1 second. 10k each and ive seen people hit harder. All this with 50% dmg reduction. Even if you survive that all it takes to kill you is fear + ult and you're good to go. So, any plans to nerf this class or you want to keep the easy mode in this game's pvp? I should just leave this game I don't have the time to lvl up a NB and laugh at everyone in pvp. This is not balance this is stupidity.



And please if all you want to do here is ''l2p scrub'' save your words. This class is taking away all the fun I had in this game. I wanna run around solo? get ambushed to death by 3 nb gankers. Wanna farm sewers? As soon as im low in health 3 nbs come to execute me, they fail? No problem just dissapear and wait until im low in health again.

are you noob? radiant mage light decrease damage of stealth based attack by 56%, use it and you win, use detection potions. L2P, stop following builds written on the internet by a *- insert famous name here-* he knows how to encounter
STOP BEING NOOB AND PITIFUL

Please, just stop. Running Radiant Magelight on both bars and never using Tri-Stats/Immovable potions, that makes you an even bigger noob. When I see a toggle player like that, usually stacking health to because "help gankers", it's always the easiest kill of the day.

Try fighting a good sorc or stam DK with some anti-gank build and only 8 skill slots.

ZoS needs to revisit counters v.s. stealth attacks, among other things. Tapping crouch makes you hit harder than using some of the most expensive ultimates, this makes no sense from an MMORPG perspective. Fact that the only counter is loosing 2 skill slots in a game where we only get 10, is even more absurd.

Joy_Division

TheBull wrote: »

Long long ago a young nightblade screamed and profaned ZOS. He said "If dks can tank 10 people, sorcs can bolt across the map, and templars can heal, nightblades should be able to one shot!" And it was so.

Apparently a young DK needs to profane ZoS again...

melloni_aleb16_ESO

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

melloni_aleb16_ESO wrote: »

....

You're wrong, you are bad stamina templar and should l2p. The reason you own with stamblade is because you suddenly transform into an elite player when playing this class.

Btw you're so right.

the only thing broken is a nb. I repeat , just play it for realize it

even a noob that uses a simple rotation ambush s.attack fear s.attack s.attack cloak , ambush s.attack ( SH ) etc. etc. wins the most fights ..definitely not for the own personal skill ( if you have 500 cp it is even worse)


all we end up playing NB , DK stam ( FOTM BUILD ) and a few Sorc..


when a class (or a build ) is most played of the other there is always a very valid reason

My 2 cent

khele23eb17_ESO

CrowsDescend wrote: »

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they got nerfed because I know what you mean, even though I can kill most of them, unless they've got a crapload of weapon damage. I just know for a fact that any comment disagreeing here; mains a Nightblade. You won't get through to them, no matter how logical you sound.

Youre saying you sound logical? You just wrote: 'I can beat them most of the time, so I understand why they would be nerfed.'

Cathexis

Welcome to Noob Cookie Cutter Nightblades Online.

Tryxus

... I feel so unwanted and hated right now cuz of my class...

-cloaks away to a dark corner and cries-

BalticBlues

Krombie wrote: »

NB are good, The other classes are bad.

NBs are not only good, NBs are GODS in PvP.

1. There is no other game where people run around permanently invisible.
2. There is no other game where permanently invisible people instagib you in 1 sec.
3. There is no other game rewarding such [snip] gameplay with loot from other players.

Ask your friends. Almost everybody now rolls a NB. Not because they like it.
Only because NBs are so OP now that there is no alternative anymore.

My daughter played a Sorc since console release.
She is one of the best PvP players in Europe. However, she now rolls a NB.
Not because she likes NBs (she hates them), but because she "has to stay competitive".

In PvP, her Sorc is probably twice as effective as my Templar.
Her new NB is probably twice as effective as her Sorc.
The unbalance has reached a level where it is almost stupid not to play a NB.

NBs are the most OP class in any PvP I have played in about 30 years.
At which point ZOS will react? When NBs make 70%, 80%, 90% of PvP?

Forestd16b14_ESO

Krombie wrote: »

NB are good, The other classes are bad. Instead of making NERFING Post, do something productive and make a, "How ZOS should improve classes posts"

See funny thing is players have already posted stuff like "please buff DKs" or "please buff templar" threads since like 1.6 and surprise there still under powered and every time one of those threads pops up NBs go onto it and say " oh they don't suck just L2P ya noob".

So maybe you NB should stop counter arguing saying all classes are balanced when there not so that DKs and Temps can finally get buffed. Till then nerf NB nerf NB nerf NB nerf NB.

gw2only1b14_ESO

eliisra wrote: »

Waseem wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Most people run around with 20k hp in Cyrodiil. New sets will come, cp cap will be increased this is only gonna get worse. Ambush + Surprise attack can be done in less than 1 second. 10k each and ive seen people hit harder. All this with 50% dmg reduction. Even if you survive that all it takes to kill you is fear + ult and you're good to go. So, any plans to nerf this class or you want to keep the easy mode in this game's pvp? I should just leave this game I don't have the time to lvl up a NB and laugh at everyone in pvp. This is not balance this is stupidity.



And please if all you want to do here is ''l2p scrub'' save your words. This class is taking away all the fun I had in this game. I wanna run around solo? get ambushed to death by 3 nb gankers. Wanna farm sewers? As soon as im low in health 3 nbs come to execute me, they fail? No problem just dissapear and wait until im low in health again.

are you noob? radiant mage light decrease damage of stealth based attack by 56%, use it and you win, use detection potions. L2P, stop following builds written on the internet by a *- insert famous name here-* he knows how to encounter
STOP BEING NOOB AND PITIFUL

Please, just stop. Running Radiant Magelight on both bars and never using Tri-Stats/Immovable potions, that makes you an even bigger noob. When I see a toggle player like that, usually stacking health to because "help gankers", it's always the easiest kill of the day.

Try fighting a good sorc or stam DK with some anti-gank build and only 8 skill slots.

ZoS needs to revisit counters v.s. stealth attacks, among other things. Tapping crouch makes you hit harder than using some of the most expensive ultimates, this makes no sense from an MMORPG perspective. Fact that the only counter is loosing 2 skill slots in a game where we only get 10, is even more absurd.

is that really multi play pvp though? making anti gank build. Most players in PvP are set up for small group/group play thus support or glass cannon rolls

So it still comes down to the burst and Dots reworking those or Hots would be a much better way for Zos to look at it

some good point though

khele23eb17_ESO

BalticBlues wrote: »

Krombie wrote: »

NB are good, The other classes are bad.

NBs are not only good, NBs are GODS in PvP.

1. There is no other game where people run around permanently invisible.
2. There is no other game where permanently invisible people instagib you in 1 sec.
3. There is no other game rewarding such [snip] gameplay with loot from other players.
[/b]

1. Afair: WoW, SWTOR, Rift, AoC, Wildstar, DAoC...
2. But everyone loves animation cancelling! it adds so much depth to the game! /s
3. Every MMO with player looting rewards a-hole gameplay.