When VE plays Red

CN_Daniel

If we on a perfect night have our 20 best, I'd go with 7-10 nados. I have a several people that can heal, nado or mana deeps it, I ask for what we're missing.

Turtl3Lov3

Huehuehue

Darnathian

WRX wrote: »

Aegonnn wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Best guild of all time was definitely Condemned. then No Mercy got the second very close with Alacrity, Imperator Rebelium the third and Haxus for the time being without a doubt.

Except Alacrity wiped the floor with Condemned all the time. We came to Wabbajack 2.0 because it was going to be the "competitive" campaign and we mopped up... We even destroyed wabba 1.0 in its final month, just none of us were homed there so the names didn't get out. Everyone also keeps pointing to NM, and I became friends with a lot of the players in NM. However, I'm going to take a shot here. Outside of Naw when he was in there, you didn't hear about NM until frags bugged and then WoE bug. They were good players for sure, and we had a lot of good fights against them. I respect them all as individuals and a guild. I'm just saying.

Aquanova wrote: »

Well since someone went there as to "who is the best pvp guild" my vote goes to "Havoc". Just by the shear hate they got from the other factions when they ran, you could tell they were badass! Alacrity, Decibel and MBF probably share 2nd place but we're equally Badass. Can't really give a definitive answer there, but for top spot, it's Havoc. Even though I pvp on DC now, Havoc will remain the rockstars of EP for pvp. I remember riding behind comet Havoc.....THE HARDCORE!!!!.....

If that's your measure of success, I see no way anyone matches up with Alacrity's record. My how bad peoples' memories are. You know it's bad when mods have to tell you to stop doing things that they don't forbid simply because there's too many tickets/complaints coming in about it.

LOL Frozen is just biased because everyone loved Havoc and didnt care for him. He still cant "let it gooo" as he put it earlier. Idk Mano, people hated Havoc on opposite factions for just killing everything, but people hated Alacrity for scroll exploiting, it's a big difference lol. EP's best was Havoc for sure. I was an officer in IR for a while, we were OP and it was some of the best times, but we just couldnt kill Decibel without a full raid and 4+ negates, which just isnt impressive to me. DC's was NM, and AD was Alacrity or Decibel, its hard to chose between those two for me. Just my opinion though.

I am going to have to agree. Havoc was definitely the toughest fights for red, Hijinx with Agrippa is no joke either. NM for blue. As for Ala/Deci I can't really say, but I will say Alacrity had many of the best players in the game ever in my opinion. Fireshot, Jager, Krim, Mano, Perma, Luv, Trip, Huntler, many more. Played with all them and at times led those players in our raids and it made a huge difference in all the fights and where the guild ended up. Deci had its own super team with Dshotz, Teapot, Winnie, Ghost, Mano, Trip, Drax, Tek, Vasha, Tatsu, Tbois, Komodo, J, and more but Ala was the first great AD team and could come back today and dominate.

As for the game right now, RAGE is really full of many top players, and from my limited time with them seem more confident when not running 24 players.

The way I view truly top guilds, personally, is when I see them running 10 or 12 or 8, and still being nearly as effective as they are with large groups, and not just quitting when they "only have 18".

You saw/see it with NM, Alacrity, Decibel, Khole, Haxus, Havoc, RAGE, Vic at times and maybe 1 or 2 older red guilds.

Just my take lol

I cannot believe the lack of love for Crystalized. Easily the best raid leader I have had the privilege of following.

jtaggs17b14_ESO

does anyone care who won the super bowl in the 1970's? why would be care about a bunch of old guilds that are no longer active? and why would you be reading this if you no longer play the game?

Satiar

Eh, nostalgia for the good old days is a human tradition

Minno

Satiar wrote: »

Aegonnn wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Aegonnn wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Best guild of all time was definitely Condemned. then No Mercy got the second very close with Alacrity, Imperator Rebelium the third and Haxus for the time being without a doubt.

Except Alacrity wiped the floor with Condemned all the time. We came to Wabbajack 2.0 because it was going to be the "competitive" campaign and we mopped up... We even destroyed wabba 1.0 in its final month, just none of us were homed there so the names didn't get out. Everyone also keeps pointing to NM, and I became friends with a lot of the players in NM. However, I'm going to take a shot here. Outside of Naw when he was in there, you didn't hear about NM until frags bugged and then WoE bug. They were good players for sure, and we had a lot of good fights against them. I respect them all as individuals and a guild. I'm just saying.

Aquanova wrote: »

Well since someone went there as to "who is the best pvp guild" my vote goes to "Havoc". Just by the shear hate they got from the other factions when they ran, you could tell they were badass! Alacrity, Decibel and MBF probably share 2nd place but we're equally Badass. Can't really give a definitive answer there, but for top spot, it's Havoc. Even though I pvp on DC now, Havoc will remain the rockstars of EP for pvp. I remember riding behind comet Havoc.....THE HARDCORE!!!!.....

If that's your measure of success, I see no way anyone matches up with Alacrity's record. My how bad peoples' memories are. You know it's bad when mods have to tell you to stop doing things that they don't forbid simply because there's too many tickets/complaints coming in about it.

LOL Frozen is just biased because everyone loved Havoc and didnt care for him. He still cant "let it gooo" as he put it earlier. Idk Mano, people hated Havoc on opposite factions for just killing everything, but people hated Alacrity for scroll exploiting, it's a big difference lol. EP's best was Havoc for sure. I was an officer in IR for a while, we were OP and it was some of the best times, but we just couldnt kill Decibel without a full raid and 4+ negates, which just isnt impressive to me. DC's was NM, and AD was Alacrity or Decibel, its hard to chose between those two for me. Just my opinion though.

I used to gank around the lines and watch some of those old IR/Deci conflicts! You guys and Crys always impressed the hell out of me, but I got to play with Havoc directly and they were pretty damn OP too, so who knows I guess.

STEVE! I always forget about Hijinx! They were very good to!!

Our prime wasn't as long as others, but Agrippa pain trains were LEGIT

Also Me, Tatsu and Logohs power NB trio

I miss Agrippa

WRX

Darnathian wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Aegonnn wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Best guild of all time was definitely Condemned. then No Mercy got the second very close with Alacrity, Imperator Rebelium the third and Haxus for the time being without a doubt.

Except Alacrity wiped the floor with Condemned all the time. We came to Wabbajack 2.0 because it was going to be the "competitive" campaign and we mopped up... We even destroyed wabba 1.0 in its final month, just none of us were homed there so the names didn't get out. Everyone also keeps pointing to NM, and I became friends with a lot of the players in NM. However, I'm going to take a shot here. Outside of Naw when he was in there, you didn't hear about NM until frags bugged and then WoE bug. They were good players for sure, and we had a lot of good fights against them. I respect them all as individuals and a guild. I'm just saying.

Aquanova wrote: »

Well since someone went there as to "who is the best pvp guild" my vote goes to "Havoc". Just by the shear hate they got from the other factions when they ran, you could tell they were badass! Alacrity, Decibel and MBF probably share 2nd place but we're equally Badass. Can't really give a definitive answer there, but for top spot, it's Havoc. Even though I pvp on DC now, Havoc will remain the rockstars of EP for pvp. I remember riding behind comet Havoc.....THE HARDCORE!!!!.....

If that's your measure of success, I see no way anyone matches up with Alacrity's record. My how bad peoples' memories are. You know it's bad when mods have to tell you to stop doing things that they don't forbid simply because there's too many tickets/complaints coming in about it.

LOL Frozen is just biased because everyone loved Havoc and didnt care for him. He still cant "let it gooo" as he put it earlier. Idk Mano, people hated Havoc on opposite factions for just killing everything, but people hated Alacrity for scroll exploiting, it's a big difference lol. EP's best was Havoc for sure. I was an officer in IR for a while, we were OP and it was some of the best times, but we just couldnt kill Decibel without a full raid and 4+ negates, which just isnt impressive to me. DC's was NM, and AD was Alacrity or Decibel, its hard to chose between those two for me. Just my opinion though.

I am going to have to agree. Havoc was definitely the toughest fights for red, Hijinx with Agrippa is no joke either. NM for blue. As for Ala/Deci I can't really say, but I will say Alacrity had many of the best players in the game ever in my opinion. Fireshot, Jager, Krim, Mano, Perma, Luv, Trip, Huntler, many more. Played with all them and at times led those players in our raids and it made a huge difference in all the fights and where the guild ended up. Deci had its own super team with Dshotz, Teapot, Winnie, Ghost, Mano, Trip, Drax, Tek, Vasha, Tatsu, Tbois, Komodo, J, and more but Ala was the first great AD team and could come back today and dominate.

As for the game right now, RAGE is really full of many top players, and from my limited time with them seem more confident when not running 24 players.

The way I view truly top guilds, personally, is when I see them running 10 or 12 or 8, and still being nearly as effective as they are with large groups, and not just quitting when they "only have 18".

You saw/see it with NM, Alacrity, Decibel, Khole, Haxus, Havoc, RAGE, Vic at times and maybe 1 or 2 older red guilds.

Just my take lol

I cannot believe the lack of love for Crystalized. Easily the best raid leader I have had the privilege of following.

Yeah I forgot some people in there. Clone and Venatus are phenomenal as well, however we didn't really get the chance to work together as guilds really. But they belong at the top too.

I have always heard Crys was a great lead and made calls several steps ahead and IR was very good, but I personally always wanted Havoc more, and a lot of Deci felt that way also.

Also, @Manoekin, I wouldnt say double negating is the same as throwing 50 people all in one place XD

Especially when we had to deal with Tom/Anon/Fluph etc, I feel its more like the barrier meta right now.

Tomato

I vote Pride from EP

Teargrants

Donny Brooks for best raid lead NA.

Jules

Poxheart wrote: »

I think that everyone bickering over which guild is/was the best can agree that Zerg Norris is not a contender and is run by a South-Ga wannabe.

Dude the insane irony is that Chuck Norris was like a solo beast. Their name makes 0 sense for their guild.

Teargrants

Jules wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

I think that everyone bickering over which guild is/was the best can agree that Zerg Norris is not a contender and is run by a South-Ga wannabe.

Dude the insane irony is that Chuck Norris was like a solo beast. Their name makes 0 sense for their guild.

Likewise, your sorc name makes 0 sense for a sorc. Where's Bellagrants?

Ghost-Shot

Dude the insane irony is that Chuck Norris was like a solo beast. Their name makes 0 sense for their guild.[/quote]

Likewise, your sorc name makes 0 sense for a sorc. Where's Bellagrants?[/quote]

Reporting Jules name so she can name it properly.

FENGRUSH

WRX wrote: »

Aegonnn wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Best guild of all time was definitely Condemned. then No Mercy got the second very close with Alacrity, Imperator Rebelium the third and Haxus for the time being without a doubt.

Except Alacrity wiped the floor with Condemned all the time. We came to Wabbajack 2.0 because it was going to be the "competitive" campaign and we mopped up... We even destroyed wabba 1.0 in its final month, just none of us were homed there so the names didn't get out. Everyone also keeps pointing to NM, and I became friends with a lot of the players in NM. However, I'm going to take a shot here. Outside of Naw when he was in there, you didn't hear about NM until frags bugged and then WoE bug. They were good players for sure, and we had a lot of good fights against them. I respect them all as individuals and a guild. I'm just saying.

Aquanova wrote: »

Well since someone went there as to "who is the best pvp guild" my vote goes to "Havoc". Just by the shear hate they got from the other factions when they ran, you could tell they were badass! Alacrity, Decibel and MBF probably share 2nd place but we're equally Badass. Can't really give a definitive answer there, but for top spot, it's Havoc. Even though I pvp on DC now, Havoc will remain the rockstars of EP for pvp. I remember riding behind comet Havoc.....THE HARDCORE!!!!.....

If that's your measure of success, I see no way anyone matches up with Alacrity's record. My how bad peoples' memories are. You know it's bad when mods have to tell you to stop doing things that they don't forbid simply because there's too many tickets/complaints coming in about it.

LOL Frozen is just biased because everyone loved Havoc and didnt care for him. He still cant "let it gooo" as he put it earlier. Idk Mano, people hated Havoc on opposite factions for just killing everything, but people hated Alacrity for scroll exploiting, it's a big difference lol. EP's best was Havoc for sure. I was an officer in IR for a while, we were OP and it was some of the best times, but we just couldnt kill Decibel without a full raid and 4+ negates, which just isnt impressive to me. DC's was NM, and AD was Alacrity or Decibel, its hard to chose between those two for me. Just my opinion though.

I am going to have to agree. Havoc was definitely the toughest fights for red, Hijinx with Agrippa is no joke either.

Its funny because back when this game didnt favor ball groups so much Agrippa and his whole guild died on the regular against FENGRUSH and 2-3 others.

How far the game has come to appease the masses!

Satiar

FENGRUSH wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Aegonnn wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Best guild of all time was definitely Condemned. then No Mercy got the second very close with Alacrity, Imperator Rebelium the third and Haxus for the time being without a doubt.

Except Alacrity wiped the floor with Condemned all the time. We came to Wabbajack 2.0 because it was going to be the "competitive" campaign and we mopped up... We even destroyed wabba 1.0 in its final month, just none of us were homed there so the names didn't get out. Everyone also keeps pointing to NM, and I became friends with a lot of the players in NM. However, I'm going to take a shot here. Outside of Naw when he was in there, you didn't hear about NM until frags bugged and then WoE bug. They were good players for sure, and we had a lot of good fights against them. I respect them all as individuals and a guild. I'm just saying.

Aquanova wrote: »

Well since someone went there as to "who is the best pvp guild" my vote goes to "Havoc". Just by the shear hate they got from the other factions when they ran, you could tell they were badass! Alacrity, Decibel and MBF probably share 2nd place but we're equally Badass. Can't really give a definitive answer there, but for top spot, it's Havoc. Even though I pvp on DC now, Havoc will remain the rockstars of EP for pvp. I remember riding behind comet Havoc.....THE HARDCORE!!!!.....

If that's your measure of success, I see no way anyone matches up with Alacrity's record. My how bad peoples' memories are. You know it's bad when mods have to tell you to stop doing things that they don't forbid simply because there's too many tickets/complaints coming in about it.

LOL Frozen is just biased because everyone loved Havoc and didnt care for him. He still cant "let it gooo" as he put it earlier. Idk Mano, people hated Havoc on opposite factions for just killing everything, but people hated Alacrity for scroll exploiting, it's a big difference lol. EP's best was Havoc for sure. I was an officer in IR for a while, we were OP and it was some of the best times, but we just couldnt kill Decibel without a full raid and 4+ negates, which just isnt impressive to me. DC's was NM, and AD was Alacrity or Decibel, its hard to chose between those two for me. Just my opinion though.

I am going to have to agree. Havoc was definitely the toughest fights for red, Hijinx with Agrippa is no joke either.

Its funny because back when this game didnt favor ball groups so much Agrippa and his whole guild died on the regular against FENGRUSH and 2-3 others.

How far the game has come to appease the masses!

I remember you using your alt to chain your main up into a keep so you could wipe an AFK Hijinx raid, that's about all I remember of that.

Tripwyr

Good to see the salt level in this thread has settled.

FENGRUSH

Satiar wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Aegonnn wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Best guild of all time was definitely Condemned. then No Mercy got the second very close with Alacrity, Imperator Rebelium the third and Haxus for the time being without a doubt.

Except Alacrity wiped the floor with Condemned all the time. We came to Wabbajack 2.0 because it was going to be the "competitive" campaign and we mopped up... We even destroyed wabba 1.0 in its final month, just none of us were homed there so the names didn't get out. Everyone also keeps pointing to NM, and I became friends with a lot of the players in NM. However, I'm going to take a shot here. Outside of Naw when he was in there, you didn't hear about NM until frags bugged and then WoE bug. They were good players for sure, and we had a lot of good fights against them. I respect them all as individuals and a guild. I'm just saying.

Aquanova wrote: »

Well since someone went there as to "who is the best pvp guild" my vote goes to "Havoc". Just by the shear hate they got from the other factions when they ran, you could tell they were badass! Alacrity, Decibel and MBF probably share 2nd place but we're equally Badass. Can't really give a definitive answer there, but for top spot, it's Havoc. Even though I pvp on DC now, Havoc will remain the rockstars of EP for pvp. I remember riding behind comet Havoc.....THE HARDCORE!!!!.....

If that's your measure of success, I see no way anyone matches up with Alacrity's record. My how bad peoples' memories are. You know it's bad when mods have to tell you to stop doing things that they don't forbid simply because there's too many tickets/complaints coming in about it.

LOL Frozen is just biased because everyone loved Havoc and didnt care for him. He still cant "let it gooo" as he put it earlier. Idk Mano, people hated Havoc on opposite factions for just killing everything, but people hated Alacrity for scroll exploiting, it's a big difference lol. EP's best was Havoc for sure. I was an officer in IR for a while, we were OP and it was some of the best times, but we just couldnt kill Decibel without a full raid and 4+ negates, which just isnt impressive to me. DC's was NM, and AD was Alacrity or Decibel, its hard to chose between those two for me. Just my opinion though.

I am going to have to agree. Havoc was definitely the toughest fights for red, Hijinx with Agrippa is no joke either.

Its funny because back when this game didnt favor ball groups so much Agrippa and his whole guild died on the regular against FENGRUSH and 2-3 others.

How far the game has come to appease the masses!

I remember you using your alt to chain your main up into a keep so you could wipe an AFK Hijinx raid, that's about all I remember of that.

Looks like The Lord FENGRUSH crushed Hijinx members with such an indomitable force they are still experiencing PTS and denial.

The truth lies whole with Agrippa who was offered mercy on countless occasions if only he would submit a formal surrender after all of his defeats with The Lord. He chose to go to the grave in silence as many have done before him.

Publius_Scipio

For the health of THE COVENANT, I respectfully ask that Bulbasir and Wizard Daniel recuse themselves from this matter. They are too invested and emotionally heated for there ever to be a resolution to this. Steve and Mountain Cat will assume full command of the respective guilds. I HAVE PERSONALLY SPOKEN TO STEVE, and he is actually one of the coolest and normal guys I have met in ESO ever. Mountain Cat is Wizard Daniel's second in command, but he is British and has posters of Kate Middleton on his bedroom wall so he can't be that tough to reason with.

Instead of this little [snip] argument between fellows of THE SAME ALLIANCE. Put your petty, sissy, two weeks past expiration date Greek yogurt argument aside and help me plant my size 10.5 boot so far up Haxus' a** that they will be flossing their teeth with shoe laces until the new year!

Flawlless

I've played for a lot of guilds. Havoc, IR and Nexus to name a few and in my experience, Nexus in its prime with core players was the best EP guild when talking about overall skill and playing as a team. That said I think Anonymous was the best raid leader I've ever played for.

Galalin

This is 8 pages of arguing who is the smartest kid in "Special Ed". Yup i said it. This games PvP although it still has a small gap between skilled players and potatoes has been dumbed down to the point even the utmost garbage players can ball up copy what they see and compete. Now thats probably the way ESO wants it but the days of truely skilled smaller bomb groups wiping raids over and over are gone. Sad but true the best guilds have come and gone.

DK SCRUB OUT

Disclaimer: just my opinion let the flaming begin

Satiar

Flawlless wrote: »

I've played for a lot of guilds. Havoc, IR and Nexus to name a few and in my experience, Nexus in its prime with core players was the best EP guild when talking about overall skill and playing as a team. That said I think Anonymous was the best raid leader I've ever played for.

Nexus probably toughest fights we've had as a DC guild, they CRUSHED that dawnbreaker/burst meta.

Flawlless

Satiar wrote: »

Flawlless wrote: »

I've played for a lot of guilds. Havoc, IR and Nexus to name a few and in my experience, Nexus in its prime with core players was the best EP guild when talking about overall skill and playing as a team. That said I think Anonymous was the best raid leader I've ever played for.

Nexus probably toughest fights we've had as a DC guild, they CRUSHED that dawnbreaker/burst meta.

Likewise. I miss the Nexus/VE rivalry, it was much like the Havoc/Decibel rivalry I got to experience before it. Two very talented, fiercely competitive guilds going head to head. I just don't see fights like that very much these days.

SkylarkAU

DC = Dramafail Covenant

Satiar

Flawlless wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Flawlless wrote: »

I've played for a lot of guilds. Havoc, IR and Nexus to name a few and in my experience, Nexus in its prime with core players was the best EP guild when talking about overall skill and playing as a team. That said I think Anonymous was the best raid leader I've ever played for.

Nexus probably toughest fights we've had as a DC guild, they CRUSHED that dawnbreaker/burst meta.

Likewise. I miss the Nexus/VE rivalry, it was much like the Havoc/Decibel rivalry I got to experience before it. Two very talented, fiercely competitive guilds going head to head. I just don't see fights like that very much these days.

And no one complained about group size! We just ran 1 group each and bombed eachother all night lol. Clench level always at max!

Jules

Teargrants wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

I think that everyone bickering over which guild is/was the best can agree that Zerg Norris is not a contender and is run by a South-Ga wannabe.

Dude the insane irony is that Chuck Norris was like a solo beast. Their name makes 0 sense for their guild.

Likewise, your sorc name makes 0 sense for a sorc. Where's Bellagrants?

Ugh- never!!!! My poor sorc

Huckdabuck

Jules wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

I think that everyone bickering over which guild is/was the best can agree that Zerg Norris is not a contender and is run by a South-Ga wannabe.

Dude the insane irony is that Chuck Norris was like a solo beast. Their name makes 0 sense for their guild.

Likewise, your sorc name makes 0 sense for a sorc. Where's Bellagrants?

Ugh- never!!!! My poor sorc

Yeah that is a rather rough sounding name.....how about Bellasi? Really rolls of the tongue!

Jules

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Reporting Jules name so she can name it properly.

But seriously please do this.

& Tex, can't quote you on my phone for some reason but still no to any/all Kirsi-themed sorc names tyvm.

Ghostbane

Huckdabuck wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Teargrants wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Poxheart wrote: »

I think that everyone bickering over which guild is/was the best can agree that Zerg Norris is not a contender and is run by a South-Ga wannabe.

Dude the insane irony is that Chuck Norris was like a solo beast. Their name makes 0 sense for their guild.

Likewise, your sorc name makes 0 sense for a sorc. Where's Bellagrants?

Ugh- never!!!! My poor sorc

Yeah that is a rather rough sounding name.....how about Bellasi? Really rolls of the tongue!

Streaken Bella.

Huckdabuck

Jules wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Reporting Jules name so she can name it properly.

But seriously please do this.

& Tex, can't quote you on my phone for some reason but still no to any/all Kirsi-themed sorc names tyvm.

BellaTex? I mean that's pretty solid as well!

dantator

Seems like a lot of the guilds are in this forum post. So, I'll love to take this moment to make a formal announcement that Divines got a reset and are back in Cyrodiil. We got an interesting and an outstanding roster so far. See ya on the battle field! :P

Here are some clips of our guild in action in 1.6:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJaFS5pBh6E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXC19DRlfg

Ghostbane

dantator wrote: »

Seems like a lot of the guilds are in this forums post. So, I'll love to take this moment to make a formal announcement that Divines got a reset and are back in Cyrodiil. We got an interesting and an outstanding roster so far. See ya on the battle field! :P

Nice, some good fights in there. Last tower bomb at the end was a good one.

Congrats on 2.0!