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The Death of the Dragonknight- updated 3/15/16

  • Glory
    Glory
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    Actually, I revise my earlier opinion about DK's. Clearly DKs need nerfs to bring them in line with the lesser classes.

    Exhibit A
    Idk what kind of mag DKs you guys fight, but I know a shieldstacking DK that hit whips for 7.5k, dude's a beast and if it wasn't for shieldbreaker I wouldn't be able to defeat him.
    From the pvp combat forum no one ever reads.

    I forgot about all the OP shields DK has in its arsenal. How do I remove battle spirit debuff to hit for 7.5k whips?
    mDK will rise again.
    Rebuild Necromancer pet AI.

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  • Teargrants
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    Actually, I revise my earlier opinion about DK's. Clearly DKs need nerfs to bring them in line with the lesser classes.

    Exhibit A
    Idk what kind of mag DKs you guys fight, but I know a shieldstacking DK that hit whips for 7.5k, dude's a beast and if it wasn't for shieldbreaker I wouldn't be able to defeat him.
    From the pvp combat forum no one ever reads.

    I forgot about all the OP shields DK has in its arsenal. How do I remove battle spirit debuff to hit for 7.5k whips?
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  •  Jules
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    Actually, I revise my earlier opinion about DK's. Clearly DKs need nerfs to bring them in line with the lesser classes.

    I will end you, sorc. :|
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  • Teargrants
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    Jules wrote: »
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Actually, I revise my earlier opinion about DK's. Clearly DKs need nerfs to bring them in line with the lesser classes.

    I will end you, sorc. :|
    Stahp shield stacking Jules. Do you think it's fun using shield breaker to fight you?
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  • Waylander
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    They need to change stone fist to an execute called dragon punch. It should be modeled straight off street fighter II.

    It would complete me.
    Edited by Waylander on January 20, 2016 1:26AM
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  • Ishammael
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    Waylander wrote: »
    They need to change stone fist to an execute called dragon punch. It should be modeled straight off street fighter II.

    It would complete me.

    Hadoken
  • Psilent
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    Ran into a DC group yesterday between Chalman and Bleakers, on Haderus NA, that had a few Magicka Dragonknights. Most Magicka Dragonknights I've seen in awhile was fun fighting them.
  • reften
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    DKs were killed with the no-stamina-regening-during-block nerf.
    Reften
    Bosmer (Wood Elf)
    Moonlight Crew (RIP), Misfitz (RIP), Victorem Guild

    VR16 NB, Stam build, Max all crafts.

    Azuras & Trueflame. Mostly PvP, No alts.

    Semi-retired till the lag is fixed.

    Love the Packers, Bourbon, and ESO...one of those will eventually kill me.
  • Teargrants
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    reften wrote: »
    DKs were killed with the no-stamina-regening-during-block nerf.
    As was my heavy armor mag sorc.

    But it's better that way, right?

    Oh, and #buffNB!
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  • Bashev
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    According to me, and most of the people already stated it, magicka DKs need a functional gap closer, survivability and change of the damage type to be consistent(now is physical, fire and magic - 3 different stars in CP).

    I really would like to see some changes in Green Dragon Blood:
    1) the skill should not be effected by the battle spirit reduced healing
    2) Major Fortitude should be changed with flat amount of health recovery (scales with magicka and spell damage) min 100 health recovery and max 800 health recovery.
    3) Major Endurance should be changed with - restore X stamina every 2 seconds (scales with max magicka and spell damage) min 100 stamina and max 800 stamina.

    This change should increase severely the magicka DKs survivability in PvP.
    Because I can!
  • Brrrofski
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    manny254 wrote: »
    I would strongly disagree about DK as a stamina class. The most standout skill for a DK stam build would have to be Igneous Shield. This skill exemplifies what has made dk a strong class in the past. This power does so many different things with one cast of the button/ skill slot. It gives you a shield based off health. Gives you stam back based off of your pool size (this will be large in a stam build). It gives you a minor weapon power buff, Most importantly it gives you a 30% healing buff. When used with rally or vigor this skill is the best shield any stam build could dream of having in the game.

    They also have another thing other stam builds would dream of having. A ultimate that is high burst and based off physical damage for cp. You also have access to a Major armor/spell resistance buff, a AoE Armor Debuff, a 70% Snare, a stamina dot, and petrify.

    The skill may not all cost stam, but how they interact is very beneficial. In a stam build having skills that consume your magicka for a useful purpose is very important.

    Plus obsidian shield grant ultimate from it's earthen heart passives. It's an amazing skill for stam DKs.

    Whatever they do with DKs they nerd to be careful. While magica need a buff, stam DKs are strong. OK, so we don't use many class skills, but I hit and have big burst (stampede, WB, take flight, good night) and can still tank a lot of people even in medium armor.
  • Psilent
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    The first fix is in place for Magicka DK!

    Dragonknight
    Ardent Flame
    Fiery Grip: This ability and its morphs can no longer be reflected.

    It's a start; I guess..
  • Ghostbane
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    It begins..
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  • Axyredo
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    Honestly, to be honest Dk needs a Nerf.
    Havoc
    EP Dragonknight - Axyredo
    EP/DC Templar - Axy
    #NerfMagicDK
  •  Jules
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    Psilent wrote: »
    The first fix is in place for Magicka DK!

    Dragonknight
    Ardent Flame
    Fiery Grip: This ability and its morphs can no longer be reflected.

    It's a start; I guess..

    We're saved. :trollface:
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  • Fyaal
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    I heard in the next patch, DK banners will now heal the enemy.

    Its going to be the Draedic morph.
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  • Tower_Of_Shame
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    Fyaal wrote: »
    I heard in the next patch, DK banners will now heal the enemy.

    Its going to be the Draedic morph.

    hahha^^ and they will double the cost :D
  • Akinos
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    Fyaal wrote: »
    I heard in the next patch, DK banners will now heal the enemy.

    Its going to be the Draedic morph.

    Draedic and his baby enemy healing standards...lmao
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  • Morozov
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    Jules wrote: »
    Psilent wrote: »
    The first fix is in place for Magicka DK!

    Dragonknight
    Ardent Flame
    Fiery Grip: This ability and its morphs can no longer be reflected.

    It's a start; I guess..

    We're saved. :trollface:

    yes, we are saved....instead of the poop being thrown and not sticking....the poop now sticks
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  • Morozov
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    Fyaal wrote: »
    I heard in the next patch, DK banners will now heal the enemy.

    Its going to be the Draedic morph.

    hahha^^ and they will double the cost :D

    and be reflectable
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    Vr 1: Zephyr Grimm - Sorc
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    Voted "Most likely to squirrel off the crown" PC-NA
  • Bashev
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    Dear magicka DKs,
    Are you exciting and waiting for the patch notes or you already lost faith that @Wrobel can make magcka DKs competitive again in PvP without making them OP in PvE?
    Edited by Bashev on February 3, 2016 10:25AM
    Because I can!
  • Ghostbane
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Dear magicka DKs,
    Are you exciting and waiting for the patch notes or you already lost faith that @Wrobel can make magcka DKs competitive again in PvP without making them OP in PvE?

    From what I have heard promised, which I was not expecting, I am excited to see them in effect.
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  • Pain In The Axe
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    #make dk great again
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  •  Jules
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    Bashev wrote: »
    Dear magicka DKs,
    Are you exciting and waiting for the patch notes or you already lost faith that @Wrobel can make magcka DKs competitive again in PvP without making them OP in PvE?

    I have hope for some of the changes.

    In particular the increase of inhale from 3->6 is really nice.
    Also a functional gap closer will be sick.

    @Wrobel 's to do list:
    Fix Dragon's Blood
    Fix Buggy Wings
    Improve DK passives (health recovery? really?)
    Edited by Jules on February 3, 2016 11:25AM
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  • DKsUnite
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    Jules wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dear magicka DKs,
    Are you exciting and waiting for the patch notes or you already lost faith that @Wrobel can make magcka DKs competitive again in PvP without making them OP in PvE?

    I have hope for some of the changes.

    In particular the increase of inhale from 3->6 is really nice.
    Also a functional gap closer will be sick.

    @Wrobel 's to do list:
    Fix Dragon's Blood
    Fix Buggy Wings
    Improve DK passives (health recovery? really?)

    Can't wait for our OP new cinder storm to zerg bust and melt everyone in it like wall of elements. Fix GDB and I will play exclusively mDK @Wrobel
    Vyr Cor | Magicka Dragonknight | DC
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  • Tower_Of_Shame
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    Jules wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dear magicka DKs,
    Are you exciting and waiting for the patch notes or you already lost faith that @Wrobel can make magcka DKs competitive again in PvP without making them OP in PvE?

    I have hope for some of the changes.

    In particular the increase of inhale from 3->6 is really nice.
    Also a functional gap closer will be sick.

    @Wrobel 's to do list:
    Fix Dragon's Blood
    Fix Buggy Wings
    Improve DK passives (health recovery? really?)

    I have a feeling that this bug is related to the 4 projectile cap, and they f***ed up something with the code. If they will fix be ready they will broke it even more.

    Options:
    a) fix it but do not broke it during the process
    b) bring back the old scales (cause your counting code is broken)
    c) bring back the old scales, but they **** it up and u collect every projectile for 4s and then u explode and die :D

    Edited by Tower_Of_Shame on February 3, 2016 11:56AM
  • DoctorSwampy
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    Jules wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Dear magicka DKs,
    Are you exciting and waiting for the patch notes or you already lost faith that @Wrobel can make magcka DKs competitive again in PvP without making them OP in PvE?

    I have hope for some of the changes.

    In particular the increase of inhale from 3->6 is really nice.
    Also a functional gap closer will be sick.

    @Wrobel 's to do list:
    Fix Dragon's Blood
    Fix Buggy Wings
    Improve DK passives (health recovery? really?)

    Don't forget that on his to-do list is fix Battle Roar. Hasn't scaled correctly in a while if I'm not mistaken. Oh, and the old Ash Cloud would be fantastic.
    #FreeAshCloud
  • DKsUnite
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    Glad they didn't fix Dragon blood.... otherwise DKs might survive god forbid
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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Meteor can no longer be reflected anyway ;)

    The changes seem to be nice on paper, will have to see how they play out. The buff the Inhale is actually really nice, for damage, utility and survival. Gap closer, why not, especially with Empower :) and Major Brutality/Sorcery, changes to CP... could work. Maybe Valkyn Skoria is sueful again :smiley:
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    I'm done, CU somewhere else.
  • Wollust
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    All I want is stam regen and GDB :neutral:
    Edit: Though the inhale and chains change is really cool!
    Edited by Wollust on February 3, 2016 11:16PM
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