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So, You have no reason to buy Imperial City if you dont like PVP. Period.

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JMadFour
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ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
I've seen this mentioned a few times in various threads now, so i'll clarify some here. Imperial City is meant for the PVP player - it's their turn for some love. If you love PVE and are clamoring for more of that type of content, the Orsinium DLC will be exactly what you want.

There you have it, from the Horse's mouth.

If you don't do PVP, then you have no reason to buy Imperial City. It's not for you. period.

there is no point in continuing to complain about the Tel Var Stones. It's not designed for you, so you have no reason to bother with it. Just save your money for Orsinium, and let the PVPers have their expansion.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]
Edited by ZOS_Racheal on July 24, 2015 11:26PM
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    Everyone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.

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  • marco.cuevas.ventob14_ESO
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    JMadFour wrote: »
    ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
    I've seen this mentioned a few times in various threads now, so i'll clarify some here. Imperial City is meant for the PVP player - it's their turn for some love. If you love PVE and are clamoring for more of that type of content, the Orsinium DLC will be exactly what you want.

    There you have it, from the Horse's mouth.

    If you don't do PVP, then you have no reason to buy Imperial City. It's not for you. period.

    there is no point in continuing to complain about the Tel Var Stones. It's not designed for you, so you have no reason to bother with it. Just save your money for Orsinium, and let the PVPers have their expansion.

    I feel sorry for the Ganker tryhards who thought they were going to get some easy Carebear prey, but this Expansion is for PVPers, and no PVE Carebear should spend money on it, per ZOS. time to git gud scrubs. have fun getting stomped by real PVPers.

    Whole heartely agree thankfully these games will keep me busy for a long time..

    FALLOUT 4 and MGSV oh yes it will be a glorious fall

    not interested in the DLC and I have the crowns

    I also think that ZOS is working on what is the most successful thing in ESO and that is the PVP hence
    the DLC
  • JMadFour
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    marco.cuevas.ventob14_ESO wrote: »
    JMadFour wrote: »
    ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
    I've seen this mentioned a few times in various threads now, so i'll clarify some here. Imperial City is meant for the PVP player - it's their turn for some love. If you love PVE and are clamoring for more of that type of content, the Orsinium DLC will be exactly what you want.

    There you have it, from the Horse's mouth.

    If you don't do PVP, then you have no reason to buy Imperial City. It's not for you. period.

    there is no point in continuing to complain about the Tel Var Stones. It's not designed for you, so you have no reason to bother with it. Just save your money for Orsinium, and let the PVPers have their expansion.

    I feel sorry for the Ganker tryhards who thought they were going to get some easy Carebear prey, but this Expansion is for PVPers, and no PVE Carebear should spend money on it, per ZOS. time to git gud scrubs. have fun getting stomped by real PVPers.

    Whole heartely agree thankfully these games will keep me busy for a long time..

    FALLOUT 4 and MGSV oh yes it will be a glorious fall

    not interested in the DLC and I have the crowns

    I also think that ZOS is working on what is the most successful thing in ESO and that is the PVP hence
    the DLC

    I DO like PVP so I'm going to buy the Expansion. I'm just saying for all the PVErs who don't want to be forced to PVP, they should just save their money.

    PVPers will need to pick up the financial slack on this one.
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    They need to explain the PvE side of the update (the part outside of IC) to get these people to calm down. I get both sides of the argument but I agree with the 100% rule. What remains unclear is how PvErs will get equivalent gear for their PvE without the IC purchase as you need it to be able to obtain any gear specific to IC. They failed to discuss this and I think a lot of PvErs have jumped to the conclusion that they are being restricted from the gear if they do not purchase, making the TVS system unappealing. I highly doubt this is the case but I can see how it escalated. If ZoS can hint at equivalent gear outside of Cyrodiil I think a lot of the fires will die down.
    Edited by RazzPitazz on July 20, 2015 5:59AM
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    RazzPitazz wrote: »
    What remains unclear is how PvErs will get equivalent gear for their PvE without the IC purchase as you need it to be able to obtain any gear specific to IC. They failed to discuss this and I think a lot of PvErs have jumped to the conclusion that they are being restricted from the gear if they do not purchase, making the TVS system unappealing. I highly doubt this is the case but I can see how it escalated. If ZoS can hint at equivalent gear outside of Cyrodiil I think a lot of the fires will die down.

    even if there is no equivalent gear outside of IC - "carebears" without the IC DLC can buy that gear from the gankers. Just as they can buy PvP gear right now...
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    marco.cuevas.ventob14_ESO wrote: »
    I also think that ZOS is working on what is the most successful thing in ESO and that is the PVP hence the DLC

    If that is what the devs believe then they have once again shown themselves completely out of touch with reality.

    Perhaps they should consider a career move to politics. :p
  • Arato
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    JMadFour wrote: »
    ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
    I've seen this mentioned a few times in various threads now, so i'll clarify some here. Imperial City is meant for the PVP player - it's their turn for some love. If you love PVE and are clamoring for more of that type of content, the Orsinium DLC will be exactly what you want.

    There you have it, from the Horse's mouth.

    If you don't do PVP, then you have no reason to buy Imperial City. It's not for you. period.

    there is no point in continuing to complain about the Tel Var Stones. It's not designed for you, so you have no reason to bother with it. Just save your money for Orsinium, and let the PVPers have their expansion.

    I feel sorry for the Ganker tryhards who thought they were going to get some easy Carebear prey, but this Expansion is for PVPers, and no PVE Carebear should spend money on it, per ZOS. time to git gud scrubs. have fun getting stomped by real PVPers.

    Except you'll still need VR16 gear, VR16 mats, VR16 enchants, and Orsinium will probably be VR18 because ZOS needs to sell XP pots in the crown store to go with the DLC pack.

    and we have no ETA on Orsinium, possibly sometime 2016 is all we know.
    Edited by Arato on July 20, 2015 6:33AM
  • JMadFour
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    Arato wrote: »
    JMadFour wrote: »
    ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
    I've seen this mentioned a few times in various threads now, so i'll clarify some here. Imperial City is meant for the PVP player - it's their turn for some love. If you love PVE and are clamoring for more of that type of content, the Orsinium DLC will be exactly what you want.

    There you have it, from the Horse's mouth.

    If you don't do PVP, then you have no reason to buy Imperial City. It's not for you. period.

    there is no point in continuing to complain about the Tel Var Stones. It's not designed for you, so you have no reason to bother with it. Just save your money for Orsinium, and let the PVPers have their expansion.

    I feel sorry for the Ganker tryhards who thought they were going to get some easy Carebear prey, but this Expansion is for PVPers, and no PVE Carebear should spend money on it, per ZOS. time to git gud scrubs. have fun getting stomped by real PVPers.

    Except you'll still need VR16 gear, VR16 mats, VR16 enchants, and Orsinium will probably be VR18 because ZOS needs to sell XP pots in the crown store to go with the DLC pack.

    and we have no ETA on Orsinium, possibly sometime 2016 is all we know.

    you can buy that stuff from the PVPers who decide to sell it on Guild Traders.

    either way, the DLC was not designed for PVE players. It was designed for PVPers.

    I don't know why they even bothered including PVE content at all, but it is what it is.

  • Arato
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    Morvul wrote: »
    RazzPitazz wrote: »
    What remains unclear is how PvErs will get equivalent gear for their PvE without the IC purchase as you need it to be able to obtain any gear specific to IC. They failed to discuss this and I think a lot of PvErs have jumped to the conclusion that they are being restricted from the gear if they do not purchase, making the TVS system unappealing. I highly doubt this is the case but I can see how it escalated. If ZoS can hint at equivalent gear outside of Cyrodiil I think a lot of the fires will die down.

    even if there is no equivalent gear outside of IC - "carebears" without the IC DLC can buy that gear from the gankers. Just as they can buy PvP gear right now...

    .... do you even understand how inflated the prices will be?

    Buying the gear will be out of most people's budget.
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    All I ask is remove the whole player looting of stones. Then I will buy it even tho I have not the connection nor the reflexes for pvp. I dont mind getting killed. Its part of a pvp zone. What I dont like is people being able to take all my stuff.
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    Arato wrote: »
    Morvul wrote: »
    RazzPitazz wrote: »
    What remains unclear is how PvErs will get equivalent gear for their PvE without the IC purchase as you need it to be able to obtain any gear specific to IC. They failed to discuss this and I think a lot of PvErs have jumped to the conclusion that they are being restricted from the gear if they do not purchase, making the TVS system unappealing. I highly doubt this is the case but I can see how it escalated. If ZoS can hint at equivalent gear outside of Cyrodiil I think a lot of the fires will die down.

    even if there is no equivalent gear outside of IC - "carebears" without the IC DLC can buy that gear from the gankers. Just as they can buy PvP gear right now...

    .... do you even understand how inflated the prices will be?

    Buying the gear will be out of most people's budget.

    Not to mention just like with the WW and vamp stuff there will be a group of people who will make IC theirs only. They wil kill anyone who dares try and enter. There will be too many of them and they will know every exploit in the book. Then they will demand millions for the gear. So ya congrats on creating a system that caters to the sociopath ZOS. Maybe one of these days you will get back to your core audience which loves elder scrolls games. Not these minority of people who demand you let them harass the rest of the population of the game.
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    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?
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    Arato wrote: »
    Except you'll still need VR16 gear, VR16 mats, VR16 enchants, and Orsinium will probably be VR18 because ZOS needs to sell XP pots in the crown store to go with the DLC pack.

    and we have no ETA on Orsinium, possibly sometime 2016 is all we know.
    TBH, if ZOS make Orsinium, the long-promised PVE UPDATE gated by gear only available by PVP content then it'll fail, hard!
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    Arato wrote: »
    Morvul wrote: »
    RazzPitazz wrote: »
    What remains unclear is how PvErs will get equivalent gear for their PvE without the IC purchase as you need it to be able to obtain any gear specific to IC. They failed to discuss this and I think a lot of PvErs have jumped to the conclusion that they are being restricted from the gear if they do not purchase, making the TVS system unappealing. I highly doubt this is the case but I can see how it escalated. If ZoS can hint at equivalent gear outside of Cyrodiil I think a lot of the fires will die down.

    even if there is no equivalent gear outside of IC - "carebears" without the IC DLC can buy that gear from the gankers. Just as they can buy PvP gear right now...

    .... do you even understand how inflated the prices will be?

    Buying the gear will be out of most people's budget.

    So many people have complained that the game has no economy and that they have nothing to spend their gold on. Well here's something to spend it on.

    Am a whimsical Generation Jones gamer. Online RPGs hooked me since '94 and no sign of stopping soon...


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    @ZOS_RichLambert should be kind enough to elaborate why they have tied PVE dungeons to it, new veteran levels and new gear that effects every single player in the game then.

    If "the Orsinium DLC will be exactly what you want" why isn't it being released at the same time with the same opportunities?

    Why is "balance" a bad word? :/
    If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!

  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?
    Edited by jamesharv2005ub17_ESO on July 20, 2015 6:58AM
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    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?
    Yes, killing people and taking their stones is indeed a very important part of the Imperial City DLC. A lot of PvP players have been wanting an actual penalty to dying and this seems to provide just that.

    Deal with it.
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?
    Yes, killing people and taking their stones is indeed a very important part of the Imperial City DLC. A lot of PvP players have been wanting an actual penalty to dying and this seems to provide just that.

    Deal with it.

    No I wont deal with it as many many other players will not. As you see by this thread even other pvp centered players hate this idea. I guarantee it will be changed or I guarantee you wont have anyone to gank and steal their stuff. The place will be deserted and you and your gank buddies will have to start killing each other.

    I mean how sad is it you cannot enjoy yourself without abusing other people.
    Edited by jamesharv2005ub17_ESO on July 20, 2015 7:07AM
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    Then why even put pve quests and dungeons in pvp and why then raise the level to vr16? These devs should be fired.
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    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?
    Yes, killing people and taking their stones is indeed a very important part of the Imperial City DLC. A lot of PvP players have been wanting an actual penalty to dying and this seems to provide just that.

    Deal with it.

    No I wont deal with it as many many other players will not. As you see by this thread even other pvp centered players hate this idea. I guarantee it will be changed or I guarantee you wont have anyone to gank and steal their stuff. The place will be deserted and you and your gank buddies will have to start killing each other.

    I mean how sad is it you cannot enjoy yourself without abusing other people.
    If you don't want to deal with, then don't play this DLC. It's been stated over and over that this is PvP content. I don't want to deal with braindead repetitve dungeons and ridiculous questlines, so I don't. I also don't go to the forums demanding more PvP in my PvE.

    Deal with it.
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    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?

    No one that i know gank only noobs the one that usually do this are the 10 v 1 ganking suads or the griefers who wait at the respawn point, dont put us PVP'rs all in the same group (the griefers)


    Edited by Tonnopesce on July 20, 2015 7:16AM
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?
    Yes, killing people and taking their stones is indeed a very important part of the Imperial City DLC. A lot of PvP players have been wanting an actual penalty to dying and this seems to provide just that.

    Deal with it.

    No I wont deal with it as many many other players will not. As you see by this thread even other pvp centered players hate this idea. I guarantee it will be changed or I guarantee you wont have anyone to gank and steal their stuff. The place will be deserted and you and your gank buddies will have to start killing each other.

    I mean how sad is it you cannot enjoy yourself without abusing other people.
    If you don't want to deal with, then don't play this DLC. It's been stated over and over that this is PvP content. I don't want to deal with braindead repetitve dungeons and ridiculous questlines, so I don't. I also don't go to the forums demanding more PvP in my PvE.

    Deal with it.

    Story driven quest lines is what elder scrolls is all about. If you want a hardcore pvp game go find one. Also I am going to mark this so I can come back and say "I told ya so" when they remove the whole looting of stones thing.
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    The point is that, the only feasible suggestion for the PVE-only player in regards to Imperial City, is simply for them not to buy it.

    The content is not made for you, it is made for PVPers. So you, as a PVE-only player, should not spend the money to purchase it.

    ZOS has acknowledged this, and they are seemingly fine with you not purchasing this content. So don't. Leave the Imperial City DLC to the PVPers.

    there is no need to change the DLC's content to suit your PVE playstyle. No need to reduce the amount of stones lost when you die to a PVPers. It's not your DLC. so don't buy it. don't play it. Play the PVE content you have. play another game. wait for Orsinium. Don't waste your money on content you arent going to enjoy, and that was not designed for you to enjoy.

    Then, the only people getting "ganked" are other PVPers.
    Edited by JMadFour on July 20, 2015 7:18AM
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    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?
    Yes, killing people and taking their stones is indeed a very important part of the Imperial City DLC. A lot of PvP players have been wanting an actual penalty to dying and this seems to provide just that.

    Deal with it.

    No I wont deal with it as many many other players will not. As you see by this thread even other pvp centered players hate this idea. I guarantee it will be changed or I guarantee you wont have anyone to gank and steal their stuff. The place will be deserted and you and your gank buddies will have to start killing each other.

    I mean how sad is it you cannot enjoy yourself without abusing other people.
    If you don't want to deal with, then don't play this DLC. It's been stated over and over that this is PvP content. I don't want to deal with braindead repetitve dungeons and ridiculous questlines, so I don't. I also don't go to the forums demanding more PvP in my PvE.

    Deal with it.

    Story driven quest lines is what elder scrolls is all about. If you want a hardcore pvp game go find one. Also I am going to mark this so I can come back and say "I told ya so" when they remove the whole looting of stones thing.
    This is The Elder Scrolls Online and the PvP has been heavily featured in all the marketing material and ZOS has even stated it considers the PvP 'end-game'.

    The fact that your personal views on what constitutes an Elder Scrolls game are different does not change anything about it. You can always go play Skyrim with its focus on 'story driven quest lines' that all involve going somewhere, pressing a button and killing 50 Draugr.
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    Psychobunni wrote: »
    @ZOS_RichLambert should be kind enough to elaborate why they have tied PVE dungeons to it, new veteran levels and new gear that effects every single player in the game then.

    I have my concerns about IC honestly, but with Sets like Ravager, and Skills such as Caltrops and Barrier for example, it is not as if ZOS has not set up precedent for things that could be classified as needed for PVE in PVP. I realized that need is defined by the individual, but many consider those things need for endgame PVE.
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?
    Yes, killing people and taking their stones is indeed a very important part of the Imperial City DLC. A lot of PvP players have been wanting an actual penalty to dying and this seems to provide just that.

    Deal with it.

    No I wont deal with it as many many other players will not. As you see by this thread even other pvp centered players hate this idea. I guarantee it will be changed or I guarantee you wont have anyone to gank and steal their stuff. The place will be deserted and you and your gank buddies will have to start killing each other.

    I mean how sad is it you cannot enjoy yourself without abusing other people.
    If you don't want to deal with, then don't play this DLC. It's been stated over and over that this is PvP content. I don't want to deal with braindead repetitve dungeons and ridiculous questlines, so I don't. I also don't go to the forums demanding more PvP in my PvE.

    Deal with it.

    Story driven quest lines is what elder scrolls is all about. If you want a hardcore pvp game go find one. Also I am going to mark this so I can come back and say "I told ya so" when they remove the whole looting of stones thing.
    This is The Elder Scrolls Online and the PvP has been heavily featured in all the marketing material and ZOS has even stated it considers the PvP 'end-game'.

    The fact that your personal views on what constitutes an Elder Scrolls game are different does not change anything about it. You can always go play Skyrim with its focus on 'story driven quest lines' that all involve going somewhere, pressing a button and killing 50 Draugr.

    You can have pvp without looting other players.
  • Lava_Croft
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    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?
    Yes, killing people and taking their stones is indeed a very important part of the Imperial City DLC. A lot of PvP players have been wanting an actual penalty to dying and this seems to provide just that.

    Deal with it.

    No I wont deal with it as many many other players will not. As you see by this thread even other pvp centered players hate this idea. I guarantee it will be changed or I guarantee you wont have anyone to gank and steal their stuff. The place will be deserted and you and your gank buddies will have to start killing each other.

    I mean how sad is it you cannot enjoy yourself without abusing other people.
    If you don't want to deal with, then don't play this DLC. It's been stated over and over that this is PvP content. I don't want to deal with braindead repetitve dungeons and ridiculous questlines, so I don't. I also don't go to the forums demanding more PvP in my PvE.

    Deal with it.

    Story driven quest lines is what elder scrolls is all about. If you want a hardcore pvp game go find one. Also I am going to mark this so I can come back and say "I told ya so" when they remove the whole looting of stones thing.
    This is The Elder Scrolls Online and the PvP has been heavily featured in all the marketing material and ZOS has even stated it considers the PvP 'end-game'.

    The fact that your personal views on what constitutes an Elder Scrolls game are different does not change anything about it. You can always go play Skyrim with its focus on 'story driven quest lines' that all involve going somewhere, pressing a button and killing 50 Draugr.

    You can have pvp without looting other players.
    But I don't want to, ZOS doesn't want to and it seems a lot of PvP players don't want to. The fact that PvE players want it to be this way is just not that important, since this content is not meant for them.

    What part of 'this content is meant for PvP players' is so hard to understand and accept? You already got some content and there's more content heading your way this year. Leave this for the battered and bruised PvP community please, I think we deserve it after more than a year of waiting and paying money.
    Edited by Lava_Croft on July 20, 2015 7:26AM
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?
    Yes, killing people and taking their stones is indeed a very important part of the Imperial City DLC. A lot of PvP players have been wanting an actual penalty to dying and this seems to provide just that.

    Deal with it.

    No I wont deal with it as many many other players will not. As you see by this thread even other pvp centered players hate this idea. I guarantee it will be changed or I guarantee you wont have anyone to gank and steal their stuff. The place will be deserted and you and your gank buddies will have to start killing each other.

    I mean how sad is it you cannot enjoy yourself without abusing other people.
    If you don't want to deal with, then don't play this DLC. It's been stated over and over that this is PvP content. I don't want to deal with braindead repetitve dungeons and ridiculous questlines, so I don't. I also don't go to the forums demanding more PvP in my PvE.

    Deal with it.

    Story driven quest lines is what elder scrolls is all about. If you want a hardcore pvp game go find one. Also I am going to mark this so I can come back and say "I told ya so" when they remove the whole looting of stones thing.
    This is The Elder Scrolls Online and the PvP has been heavily featured in all the marketing material and ZOS has even stated it considers the PvP 'end-game'.

    The fact that your personal views on what constitutes an Elder Scrolls game are different does not change anything about it. You can always go play Skyrim with its focus on 'story driven quest lines' that all involve going somewhere, pressing a button and killing 50 Draugr.

    You can have pvp without looting other players.
    But I don't want to, ZOS doesn't want to and it seems a lot of PvP players don't want to. The fact that PvE players want it to be this way is just not that important, since this content is not meant for them.

    One day you will learn its not all about you.
  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Is it so hard to just let PvP players enjoy the only piece of new content they will probably ever see?

    So unless you can gank newbs and steal their stuff you cant enjoy IC? Is that what you are saying?
    Yes, killing people and taking their stones is indeed a very important part of the Imperial City DLC. A lot of PvP players have been wanting an actual penalty to dying and this seems to provide just that.

    Deal with it.

    No I wont deal with it as many many other players will not. As you see by this thread even other pvp centered players hate this idea. I guarantee it will be changed or I guarantee you wont have anyone to gank and steal their stuff. The place will be deserted and you and your gank buddies will have to start killing each other.

    I mean how sad is it you cannot enjoy yourself without abusing other people.
    If you don't want to deal with, then don't play this DLC. It's been stated over and over that this is PvP content. I don't want to deal with braindead repetitve dungeons and ridiculous questlines, so I don't. I also don't go to the forums demanding more PvP in my PvE.

    Deal with it.

    Story driven quest lines is what elder scrolls is all about. If you want a hardcore pvp game go find one. Also I am going to mark this so I can come back and say "I told ya so" when they remove the whole looting of stones thing.
    This is The Elder Scrolls Online and the PvP has been heavily featured in all the marketing material and ZOS has even stated it considers the PvP 'end-game'.

    The fact that your personal views on what constitutes an Elder Scrolls game are different does not change anything about it. You can always go play Skyrim with its focus on 'story driven quest lines' that all involve going somewhere, pressing a button and killing 50 Draugr.

    You can have pvp without looting other players.

    It's not like you're loosing all your stuff, only those stones. If you don't like it, you can always spend a few 100k to buy the gear from the PvP crowd :wink:
    Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
    playing for eXile

    I'm done, CU somewhere else.
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    jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

    You can have pvp without looting other players.

    No see, that's not tryhard enough.

    you have to be able to easily kill people who won't fight back and take all their stuff. or else it isn't "war" thats all about "conflict".

    again, just don't buy Imperial City, let the tryhard griefers circle-jerk with each other, and get roflstomped by real PVPers.
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