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The Day ESO Dies
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VincentBlanquin✭✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »
if they add small scale pvp with matchmaking according to cp, everybody can have fun....
Except than you will never be matched with anyone
it's already hard enough to make a match making system that works with 50 level. Enjoy to make one that works with 3600 CP 
where is the problem lady? of course you can never get miracle matchmaking for everyone everytime get good match, but still its the way to have a lot more good fights, then manys have now at that bloody mess cyrodiil))
ZOS has never acknowledged any plans to add small scale PVP to ESO.
They haven't shown anything going in that direction since the battlegrounds of Quakecon 2014.
PVE leaderboards aren't compatible with rankings based on CP either.
not true. they say they dont have plans for adding arena, but we all know arena is finished. maybe Konkle and Sage were the main antiarena guys, and next time we will be surprised that arenas incoming))))
Irwen Vincinter - Nord - Dragonknight
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Source?VincentBlanquin wrote: »
but we all know arena is finished.VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »
if they add small scale pvp with matchmaking according to cp, everybody can have fun....
Except than you will never be matched with anyone it's already hard enough to make a match making system that works with 50 level. Enjoy to make one that works with 3600 CP
where is the problem lady? of course you can never get miracle matchmaking for everyone everytime get good match, but still its the way to have a lot more good fights, then manys have now at that bloody mess cyrodiil))
ZOS has never acknowledged any plans to add small scale PVP to ESO.
They haven't shown anything going in that direction since the battlegrounds of Quakecon 2014.
PVE leaderboards aren't compatible with rankings based on CP either.
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VincentBlanquin✭✭✭
Source?VincentBlanquin wrote: »
but we all know arena is finished.VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »
if they add small scale pvp with matchmaking according to cp, everybody can have fun....
Except than you will never be matched with anyone it's already hard enough to make a match making system that works with 50 level. Enjoy to make one that works with 3600 CP
where is the problem lady? of course you can never get miracle matchmaking for everyone everytime get good match, but still its the way to have a lot more good fights, then manys have now at that bloody mess cyrodiil))
ZOS has never acknowledged any plans to add small scale PVP to ESO.
They haven't shown anything going in that direction since the battlegrounds of Quakecon 2014.
PVE leaderboards aren't compatible with rankings based on CP either.
watch that video, it was real fight
maybe its wheeler itchy thing))
Edited by VincentBlanquin on July 4, 2015 11:20AMIrwen Vincinter - Nord - Dragonknight
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Elloa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »
if they add small scale pvp with matchmaking according to cp, everybody can have fun....
Except than you will never be matched with anyone it's already hard enough to make a match making system that works with 50 level. Enjoy to make one that works with 3600 CP
where is the problem lady? of course you can never get miracle matchmaking for everyone everytime get good match, but still its the way to have a lot more good fights, then manys have now at that bloody mess cyrodiil))
I mean that match makers are often being buggy, then there will be population issues, with for example, very very little poeple to be matched with for certain ladders etc. It was already something difficult and hard in a game as succesful and populated as World of Warcraft, I really have dubt this to be a viable solution in The Elder Scrolls online based on Champion point.
That's just what I meant
sorry to have been unclear.
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SC0TY999✭✭✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »
if they add small scale pvp with matchmaking according to cp, everybody can have fun....
Except than you will never be matched with anyone it's already hard enough to make a match making system that works with 50 level. Enjoy to make one that works with 3600 CP
where is the problem lady? of course you can never get miracle matchmaking for everyone everytime get good match, but still its the way to have a lot more good fights, then manys have now at that bloody mess cyrodiil))
ZOS has never acknowledged any plans to add small scale PVP to ESO.
They haven't shown anything going in that direction since the battlegrounds of Quakecon 2014.
PVE leaderboards aren't compatible with rankings based on CP either.
not true. they say they dont have plans for adding arena, but we all know arena is finished. maybe Konkle and Sage were the main antiarena guys, and next time we will be surprised that arenas incoming))))
If it will make money in the form of DLC you can bet your life that they'll release them!
However don't expect that anytime soon, this is probably their get out of jail free card when the game is about to die.
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VincentBlanquin✭✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »
if they add small scale pvp with matchmaking according to cp, everybody can have fun....
Except than you will never be matched with anyone it's already hard enough to make a match making system that works with 50 level. Enjoy to make one that works with 3600 CP
where is the problem lady? of course you can never get miracle matchmaking for everyone everytime get good match, but still its the way to have a lot more good fights, then manys have now at that bloody mess cyrodiil))
I mean that match makers are often being buggy, then there will be population issues, with for example, very very little poeple to be matched with for certain ladders etc. It was already something difficult and hard in a game as succesful and populated as World of Warcraft, I really have dubt this to be a viable solution in The Elder Scrolls online based on Champion point.
That's just what I meant sorry to have been unclear.
no)) i play neverwinter matchmaking and consider it good enough. far from perfect but good enough
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Elloa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm all for account wide progression, but at what cost? At the cost that people grinding zombies ultimately win? At the cost that skill and performance are removed out of the game? I want to one day challenge Sypher in PvP without out grinding him. With skill, learning, getting my face kicked in by him over and over just to beat him one day with pure skill. Until this changes, the easier way for me to beat him is out grind him. Obtain such a mathematical advantage that no amount of skill can compensate. And that is the day that ESO dies.
I, for one, disagree with this. People without skill want to win too and in ESO, how it used to work, they could not ever win, because they lacked any skill whatsoever. And these are actually quite many; for every Sypher there are 10 players who do not know how to block or roll from red circles.
Now everybody has at least chance, because they can outgrind even the most elitist players, and players that do not have that much for grinding but have money can win too, because there are XP/CP boosters in the cash shop.
But that just...wrong. Do you mean than you find good that (sorry to be rude) idiot players can become competitive to skilled and legit players just by outgrinding them? No. this is wrong imho. Competition should be based on skills. Not on gear. Not on Champion point.
I'm super crap at PVP. If I duel Sypher, I deserve to be smashed in few hits. I would not want to win over him just because I got more Champion point. hell, I'd be so ashamed to win a fight due to a mechanic other than my skill. The vitcory would not be deserved.
I want to be good at the game, with my skills, my knowledge, my reflexes. Not with gear or with points.11 -
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✭I'm all for account wide progression, but at what cost? At the cost that people grinding zombies ultimately win? At the cost that skill and performance are removed out of the game? I want to one day challenge Sypher in PvP without out grinding him. With skill, learning, getting my face kicked in by him over and over just to beat him one day with pure skill. Until this changes, the easier way for me to beat him is out grind him. Obtain such a mathematical advantage that no amount of skill can compensate. And that is the day that ESO dies.
I, for one, disagree with this. People without skill want to win too and in ESO, how it used to work, they could not ever win, because they lacked any skill whatsoever. And these are actually quite many; for every Sypher there are 10 players who do not know how to block or roll from red circles.
Now everybody has at least chance, because they can outgrind even the most elitist players, and players that do not have that much for grinding but have money can win too, because there are XP/CP boosters in the cash shop.
But that just...wrong. Do you mean than you find good that (sorry to be rude) idiot players can become competitive to skilled and legit players just by outgrinding them? No. this is wrong imho. Competition should be based on skills. Not on gear. Not on Champion point.
I'm super crap at PVP. If I duel Sypher, I deserve to be smashed in few hits. I would not want to win over him just because I got more Champion point. hell, I'd be so ashamed to win a fight due to a mechanic other than my skill. The vitcory would not be deserved.
I want to be good at the game, with my skills, my knowledge, my reflexes. Not with gear or with points.
ATM ? Change game...
And i'm one of those who still have hope that the cp is in a early phase and it can still be fixed.Signature0 -
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✭I agree with a lot of what I see here, but lets not forget they removed the caps, in all of mmo I have plaed since the late 90's I don't think I played an mmo that removed the caps, they were there for a reason now combine no caps with cp, one of the reasons we have builds with infinite rolls and bolt escapes and other things is the amount of regeneration is off the hook, it is not just a cp problem or a vr16 problem there are many things tied to the reason why the game is so out of balance and will continue to be as the gap widens. People level at different rates and there will always be a power gap, but some of the mechanics ZOS has built in here just exacerbate the problem.2 -
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✭I'm all for account wide progression, but at what cost? At the cost that people grinding zombies ultimately win? At the cost that skill and performance are removed out of the game? I want to one day challenge Sypher in PvP without out grinding him. With skill, learning, getting my face kicked in by him over and over just to beat him one day with pure skill. Until this changes, the easier way for me to beat him is out grind him. Obtain such a mathematical advantage that no amount of skill can compensate. And that is the day that ESO dies.
I, for one, disagree with this. People without skill want to win too and in ESO, how it used to work, they could not ever win, because they lacked any skill whatsoever. And these are actually quite many; for every Sypher there are 10 players who do not know how to block or roll from red circles.
Now everybody has at least chance, because they can outgrind even the most elitist players, and players that do not have that much for grinding but have money can win too, because there are XP/CP boosters in the cash shop.
If that was the description of an MMO, I'd run fast in the other direction. But I guess that really is ESO now.2 -
VincentBlanquin✭✭✭yeah, i am super crap in pvp too with my current hybrid build. i need arena to be forced against elloa. only chance we can ever met))Irwen Vincinter - Nord - Dragonknight
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✭✭✭✭✭PvP has always felt kind of meaningless to me in this game. Because we cannot have any communication with the other factions and because we cannot play with them in any other aspect of the game they may as well just be more faceless AI. This makes the Three Banners War feel absolutely unimportant and disconnected from the rest of the game. Add that on top of the abysmal state of PvP and the lag one experiences in Cyrodiil and I feel absolutely no reason to partake in it. I've been here since towards the end of beta (got the, for now still unique, monkey to prove it), still have a sub that has never lapsed, and I am a roleplayer and "filthy casual" whose main is only VR11. Yet I've filled all 8 character slots and wish I had more and play all my alts, some of which are still in the teens. So the idea that I have to slog through 2 more VR ranks before ever seeing end game when I've already been playing for over a year is utterly unbearable to me.
Now, this article (the OP) points out the fact that, oh yeah, even if I buckle down and force myself through those 2 additional VR levels I'll STILL never stand a chance in PvP and I'll STILL never get to see end game because no one who is actually doing that content is going to want to group up with someone who doesn't have the "requisite" Champion Points and gear.
Well there's always roleplaying. And the sad fact is that this activity with other players that does NOTHING to advance my characters' progression in game is quite frankly the ONLY reason I stay. And yet ZOS steadfastly ignores this group of loyal players, gives us not one thing we've asked for and has no plans to start work on the number 1 wish of the RP community, PLAYER HOUSING. Instead they waste time and effort on...adding more VR levels as a "temporary" solution to a problem they created in the first place.
The mind boggles.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!3 -
Elloa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »I'm all for account wide progression, but at what cost? At the cost that people grinding zombies ultimately win? At the cost that skill and performance are removed out of the game? I want to one day challenge Sypher in PvP without out grinding him. With skill, learning, getting my face kicked in by him over and over just to beat him one day with pure skill. Until this changes, the easier way for me to beat him is out grind him. Obtain such a mathematical advantage that no amount of skill can compensate. And that is the day that ESO dies.
I, for one, disagree with this. People without skill want to win too and in ESO, how it used to work, they could not ever win, because they lacked any skill whatsoever. And these are actually quite many; for every Sypher there are 10 players who do not know how to block or roll from red circles.
Now everybody has at least chance, because they can outgrind even the most elitist players, and players that do not have that much for grinding but have money can win too, because there are XP/CP boosters in the cash shop.
But that just...wrong. Do you mean than you find good that (sorry to be rude) idiot players can become competitive to skilled and legit players just by outgrinding them? No. this is wrong imho. Competition should be based on skills. Not on gear. Not on Champion point.
I'm super crap at PVP. If I duel Sypher, I deserve to be smashed in few hits. I would not want to win over him just because I got more Champion point. hell, I'd be so ashamed to win a fight due to a mechanic other than my skill. The vitcory would not be deserved.
I want to be good at the game, with my skills, my knowledge, my reflexes. Not with gear or with points.
ATM ? Change game...
And i'm one of those who still have hope that the cp is in a early phase and it can still be fixed.
I don't want and will not change game cause I'm really enjoying ESO. I'm not a player seeking for competition, I do not give a crap (personaly ) about PVP and what happen in Cyrodiil and I've no ambition of competing in the leaderboard for PVE. I'm just doing my things with my guildies and friends, and everything is good.
BUT, I'm not thinking about my selfish pleasure here. I've played and tested this game since july 2013. I'm very invested in the community and the game and I want to see it succesful and fair for everyone. My main concerns is to give the possibility to players to play together and enjoy themself in fairness and relative balance. No system will ever be perfect. But we need to aim towards it.
I love the possibility of the Champion System. but I do not like the unbalance it create between players. A MMO should work towards gathering players, not building fences between them. it should build bridge between different communities, not separate them with gates.
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✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: »yeah, i am super crap in pvp too with my current hybrid build. i need arena to be forced against elloa. only chance we can ever met))
Hahah you want to spank me? tsss 0 -
Lettigall✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm all for account wide progression, but at what cost? At the cost that people grinding zombies ultimately win? At the cost that skill and performance are removed out of the game? I want to one day challenge Sypher in PvP without out grinding him. With skill, learning, getting my face kicked in by him over and over just to beat him one day with pure skill. Until this changes, the easier way for me to beat him is out grind him. Obtain such a mathematical advantage that no amount of skill can compensate. And that is the day that ESO dies.
I, for one, disagree with this. People without skill want to win too and in ESO, how it used to work, they could not ever win, because they lacked any skill whatsoever. And these are actually quite many; for every Sypher there are 10 players who do not know how to block or roll from red circles.
Now everybody has at least chance, because they can outgrind even the most elitist players, and players that do not have that much for grinding but have money can win too, because there are XP/CP boosters in the cash shop.
Non skilled players should improve their own skills not relay on outnumbering others champion points. Eventually all will learn to dodge, block and get the **** out of red circle. Laziness to learn shouldn't be promoted.Some men just want to watch the world burn... I just want a cold beer!6 -
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✭✭MornaBaine wrote: »Now, this article (the OP) points out the fact that, oh yeah, even if I buckle down and force myself through those 2 additional VR levels I'll STILL never stand a chance in PvP and I'll STILL never get to see end game because no one who is actually doing that content is going to want to group up with someone who doesn't have the "requisite" Champion Points and gear.
I agree with most of what you said, but not this part. Do not lose your hope in the community. there is so many good and experimented players that are more than willing to help others to run through some Dungeons, teach them the basis, or simply enjoying a moment together.
my guild is a mix of skilled players and less skilled players. Some have never played a MMO before. We are enjoying ourselves together no matter what!
I regularly do pugs group aswell, and most of the person I met where nice and understanding person. I even met a former Emperor that were visibly experienced, but had the patience to wipe with us and give us some tricks to complete the fight.
Ther eis good souls out of here! Believe!
(Sorry this is a little bit out of subject, but needed to be said)1 -
VincentBlanquin✭✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: »yeah, i am super crap in pvp too with my current hybrid build. i need arena to be forced against elloa. only chance we can ever met))
Hahah you want to spank me? tsss
hell no))
at least for the first time
i saw youtube you have dragonknight archer character in dungeonplay, now try to imagine that character at pvp. no chance to spank you for me))
still at chillrend?Irwen Vincinter - Nord - Dragonknight
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HxC✭✭✭On VR16.
I have multiple vr14 character and i don't care about leveling them to vr16 doing the new content (I never grind)
It's an MMORPG after all.
On CP system
- When ZOS nerf grinding spots players whine because they can level their toon as fast as they think it should be and/or getting CP fast.
- When players like me ask for a CP cap for leaderboard contents players(with a lot of CP ^^) reply "noob go l2p CP doesnt matter" .
- Now players are whining because a very small part of the player base had even more CP than them and think they get kill because of that. It can be true in 1v1 or skirmish battle but not in Zerg vs Zerg.
The first problem is the "competitive aspect" of the game which bring a lot of toxicity in the game and in the players base, Because of that a lot of "casual" think they should "catch up" to be able to compete or complete end game contents so they start grinding and get bored really fast and quit the game.
The second problem is the vocal minority of players exploiting the game system all day long, coming here to cry when ZOS try to do something against them using the vile argument that they crying for all players.
PS: Eric stated in the last ESO live , they are monitoring Players CP and when disparity will be too high they'll add specific server for those players."You call these baubles, well, it is with baubles that men are led… Do you think that you would be able to make men fight by reasoning? Never. That is good only for the scholar in his study. The soldier needs glory, distinctions, rewards." (Napoleon Bonaparte)0 -
NadiusMaximus✭✭✭✭✭
Ther eis good souls out of here! Believe!
You even type with an accent. That's so cool.
Love your show.
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✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »
if they add small scale pvp with matchmaking according to cp, everybody can have fun....
Except than you will never be matched with anyone it's already hard enough to make a match making system that works with 50 level. Enjoy to make one that works with 3600 CP
where is the problem lady? of course you can never get miracle matchmaking for everyone everytime get good match, but still its the way to have a lot more good fights, then manys have now at that bloody mess cyrodiil))
ZOS has never acknowledged any plans to add small scale PVP to ESO.
They haven't shown anything going in that direction since the battlegrounds of Quakecon 2014.
PVE leaderboards aren't compatible with rankings based on CP either.
not true. they say they dont have plans for adding arena, but we all know arena is finished. maybe Konkle and Sage were the main antiarena guys, and next time we will be surprised that arenas incoming))))
BS Answer detected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMzrkRluWbU
This is the PVP video of Quakecon 2014, presented by Nick Konkle and Paul Sage.Wololo.0 -
Docmandu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Adding my stamp of approval to the OP's post (my voice).. and using my wallet to back it up by cancelling my ESO Plus.
There must be other ways to handle this than forcing the entire playerbase to grind out extra VR levels every 3-4 months and grinding CP to remain competitive!
Edited by Docmandu on July 4, 2015 11:59AM2 -
VincentBlanquin✭✭✭Adding my stamp of approval to the OP's post (my voice).. and using my wallet to back it up by cancelling my ESO Plus.
There must be other ways to handle this than forcing the entire playerbase to grind out extra VR levels every 3-4 months and grinding CP to remain competitive!
there will be, later, as i still believe
now its the time of monetizing grinders and xp pots, nothing can do about it
Edited by VincentBlanquin on July 4, 2015 12:04PMIrwen Vincinter - Nord - Dragonknight
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✭On VR16.
I have multiple vr14 character and i don't care about leveling them to vr16 doing the new content (I never grind)
It's an MMORPG after all.
On CP system
- When ZOS nerf grinding spots players whine because they can level their toon as fast as they think it should be and/or getting CP fast.
- When players like me ask for a CP cap for leaderboard contents players(with a lot of CP ^^) reply "noob go l2p CP doesnt matter" .
- Now players are whining because a very small part of the player base had even more CP than them and think they get kill because of that. It can be true in 1v1 or skirmish battle but not in Zerg vs Zerg.
The first problem is the "competitive aspect" of the game which bring a lot of toxicity in the game and in the players base, Because of that a lot of "casual" think they should "catch up" to be able to compete or complete end game contents so they start grinding and get bored really fast and quit the game.
The second problem is the vocal minority of players exploiting the game system all day long, coming here to cry when ZOS try to do something against them using the vile argument that they crying for all players.
PS: Eric stated in the last ESO live , they are monitoring Players CP and when disparity will be too high they'll add specific server for those players.
Stop blaming players for using the system that is implemented. "Whining" about nerfing grinding spots? Im vr 8 and some grinding from time to time is the only hope for me to reach top level - i am done with grinding pve quests and since some time im leaving pvp only to grind a little.
Ps. Did Eric state what is the level of disparity that would trigger that reaction? 1000 cp? 2000?Edited by sadownik on July 4, 2015 12:06PM0 -
SC0TY999✭✭✭✭On VR16.
I have multiple vr14 character and i don't care about leveling them to vr16 doing the new content (I never grind)
It's an MMORPG after all.
On CP system
- When ZOS nerf grinding spots players whine because they can level their toon as fast as they think it should be and/or getting CP fast.
- When players like me ask for a CP cap for leaderboard contents players(with a lot of CP ^^) reply "noob go l2p CP doesnt matter" .
- Now players are whining because a very small part of the player base had even more CP than them and think they get kill because of that. It can be true in 1v1 or skirmish battle but not in Zerg vs Zerg.
The first problem is the "competitive aspect" of the game which bring a lot of toxicity in the game and in the players base, Because of that a lot of "casual" think they should "catch up" to be able to compete or complete end game contents so they start grinding and get bored really fast and quit the game.
The second problem is the vocal minority of players exploiting the game system all day long, coming here to cry when ZOS try to do something against them using the vile argument that they crying for all players.
PS: Eric stated in the last ESO live , they are monitoring Players CP and when disparity will be too high they'll add specific server for those players.
Hmmm so Eric states that if I fall to far behind on CP then I can no longer group with friends and get segregated from everyone else that has more CP?
I.e. I get put in the naughty corner for not playing enough to keep up with the rest of the player base?
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I imagine it would work similar to vet and non-vet campaigns: you can join the high CP campaign with low CP, but not the other way around. I think it's fair, but it won't solve the problem of PvE leaderboards.On VR16.
I have multiple vr14 character and i don't care about leveling them to vr16 doing the new content (I never grind)
It's an MMORPG after all.
On CP system
- When ZOS nerf grinding spots players whine because they can level their toon as fast as they think it should be and/or getting CP fast.
- When players like me ask for a CP cap for leaderboard contents players(with a lot of CP ^^) reply "noob go l2p CP doesnt matter" .
- Now players are whining because a very small part of the player base had even more CP than them and think they get kill because of that. It can be true in 1v1 or skirmish battle but not in Zerg vs Zerg.
The first problem is the "competitive aspect" of the game which bring a lot of toxicity in the game and in the players base, Because of that a lot of "casual" think they should "catch up" to be able to compete or complete end game contents so they start grinding and get bored really fast and quit the game.
The second problem is the vocal minority of players exploiting the game system all day long, coming here to cry when ZOS try to do something against them using the vile argument that they crying for all players.
PS: Eric stated in the last ESO live , they are monitoring Players CP and when disparity will be too high they'll add specific server for those players.
Hmmm so Eric states that if I fall to far behind on CP then I can no longer group with friends and get segregated from everyone else that has more CP?
I.e. I get put in the naughty corner for not playing enough to keep up with the rest of the player base?
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✭✭✭✭✭Excellent post OP. Youre views are shared by me, and alot of other players im sure.
NO to vr16 btw.
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Vizier✭✭✭✭✭
✭Good grief... another promise bites the dust.
Getting real tired of this crap. Are they trying to hemorrhage players? Seems like it to me.1 -
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✭VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »VincentBlanquin wrote: »
if they add small scale pvp with matchmaking according to cp, everybody can have fun....
Except than you will never be matched with anyone it's already hard enough to make a match making system that works with 50 level. Enjoy to make one that works with 3600 CP
where is the problem lady? of course you can never get miracle matchmaking for everyone everytime get good match, but still its the way to have a lot more good fights, then manys have now at that bloody mess cyrodiil))
ZOS has never acknowledged any plans to add small scale PVP to ESO.
They haven't shown anything going in that direction since the battlegrounds of Quakecon 2014.
PVE leaderboards aren't compatible with rankings based on CP either.
not true. they say they dont have plans for adding arena, but we all know arena is finished. maybe Konkle and Sage were the main antiarena guys, and next time we will be surprised that arenas incoming))))
BS Answer detected.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMzrkRluWbU
This is the PVP video of Quakecon 2014, presented by Nick Konkle and Paul Sage.
who?
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I imagine it would work similar to vet and non-vet campaigns: you can join the high CP campaign with low CP, but not the other way around. I think it's fair, but it won't solve the problem of PvE leaderboards.On VR16.
I have multiple vr14 character and i don't care about leveling them to vr16 doing the new content (I never grind)
It's an MMORPG after all.
On CP system
- When ZOS nerf grinding spots players whine because they can level their toon as fast as they think it should be and/or getting CP fast.
- When players like me ask for a CP cap for leaderboard contents players(with a lot of CP ^^) reply "noob go l2p CP doesnt matter" .
- Now players are whining because a very small part of the player base had even more CP than them and think they get kill because of that. It can be true in 1v1 or skirmish battle but not in Zerg vs Zerg.
The first problem is the "competitive aspect" of the game which bring a lot of toxicity in the game and in the players base, Because of that a lot of "casual" think they should "catch up" to be able to compete or complete end game contents so they start grinding and get bored really fast and quit the game.
The second problem is the vocal minority of players exploiting the game system all day long, coming here to cry when ZOS try to do something against them using the vile argument that they crying for all players.
PS: Eric stated in the last ESO live , they are monitoring Players CP and when disparity will be too high they'll add specific server for those players.
Hmmm so Eric states that if I fall to far behind on CP then I can no longer group with friends and get segregated from everyone else that has more CP?
I.e. I get put in the naughty corner for not playing enough to keep up with the rest of the player base?
Doesn't sound very MMO to me!
I don't think that's going to be a great solution imo
Campaign population balance is already in a complete mess
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Bromburak✭✭✭✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: »they say they dont have plans for adding arena, but we all know arena is finished. maybe Konkle and Sage were the main antiarena guys, and next time we will be surprised that arenas incoming))))
Please give your head a shake.
Just because a quick and dirty mini map with a flag has been created with an ingame editor for some PvP promotion it doesn't mean they have an Arena.
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