Thread for PC Users :)

Shunravi

Heishi wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/184801/lets-discuss-the-difficulty-of-eso-and-how-we-can-make-it-better

@BigM you see that yet? I don't have enough time to get a post up there right now, but will later on in the day

I've been following this post and have to wonder one thing. How many of these same players, once they reach V3 are going to start whining about it being too difficult (because they didn't make their build right)?

I haven't seen that in a long time though. Personally, I never was able to give the veteran ranks a go while they were difficult.. they had been nerfed by the time I got there. So even with a bad build I'm pretty sure it's still very very doable (well - the questing and Caldwell content). On the other hand.. if you're talking about actual veteran dungeons etc.. yeah I could see that happening.

I was playing my Main, a Nightblade vampire in the original vet zones before they nerfed it. I made it to Vet 9 just before the nerf.

I remember it being really challenging, but also enjoyable at that time. You really had to watch what you were doing and learn how to play and work on your reaction times, and actually had to team up to do a WB or Dolmen. They definitely nerfed it too hard.

Also of note at that time, unless you were a person who would grind to gain levels, one zone would only raise you one level, so most players were never a higher level than the zone, which made a huge difference in difficulty. Now, however, it is really easy to be 3-5 Vet levels above a zone because of the XP changes and players don't seem to take that into consideration when they talk about the difficulty of a level.

I have the altoholic disease where I constantly make and remake chars. By the time I made it to VR they had already nerfed it pretty bad. I was easily able to run through VR5 (end cadwell silver) delves with no problem as a VR1. Of course that was shortly after Dwemer style came out and A'likir Desert was my silver end area, but I wanted to search the dwemer ruins.

Speaking of mer, I've always wondered why Orcs (Orsimer) are the only mer that typically don't use their technical name, or rather people don't refer to them by it. I suppose technically khajiit and argonian don't either but I believe the word used for them refers to beast people in general (Betmer). Since Betmer is pretty generic I can get it not being used for them commonly. However Orsimer is pretty specific. Likewise Dwemer don't get called Dwarves often.

I think it has to do with the whole 'spurned and crused race' thing.

PBpsy

The best in zone PVE really happened if you had reached Vr zone 2-4 weeks after launch and before they launched Craglorn.
If you reached VR fast there were:
-not much spam.
-a lot less bots
-spontaneous groups forming that just stayed on and cleared all Dolmen's, WB ,Delves,
-the difficulty made sense.Not to easy but not hard either.
-low population but active population. You could get in a delve and be alone for a while and you could do most questing in peace.

Craglorn came:
-Mobs buffed by mistake to a power level higher than Craglorn.
-Most WB were solvable but some quest were a pain .
-Hot fix didn't actually fix many of the mob difficulty spikes.
-most zone grouping ended / stopped being required or even fun.Get away form my damn WB !!!!
-many people just left for Craglorn to grind and try soloing stuff. I personally did that. For a while some quests in V9-10 zones were harder than doing Hircine's solo.

A few months after ZOS stealth nerfed all ZONE pve to the ground. Nobody cared anymore though.

Nebthet78

Heishi wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/184801/lets-discuss-the-difficulty-of-eso-and-how-we-can-make-it-better

@BigM you see that yet? I don't have enough time to get a post up there right now, but will later on in the day

I've been following this post and have to wonder one thing. How many of these same players, once they reach V3 are going to start whining about it being too difficult (because they didn't make their build right)?

I haven't seen that in a long time though. Personally, I never was able to give the veteran ranks a go while they were difficult.. they had been nerfed by the time I got there. So even with a bad build I'm pretty sure it's still very very doable (well - the questing and Caldwell content). On the other hand.. if you're talking about actual veteran dungeons etc.. yeah I could see that happening.

I was playing my Main, a Nightblade vampire in the original vet zones before they nerfed it. I made it to Vet 9 just before the nerf.

I remember it being really challenging, but also enjoyable at that time. You really had to watch what you were doing and learn how to play and work on your reaction times, and actually had to team up to do a WB or Dolmen. They definitely nerfed it too hard.

Also of note at that time, unless you were a person who would grind to gain levels, one zone would only raise you one level, so most players were never a higher level than the zone, which made a huge difference in difficulty. Now, however, it is really easy to be 3-5 Vet levels above a zone because of the XP changes and players don't seem to take that into consideration when they talk about the difficulty of a level.

I have the altoholic disease where I constantly make and remake chars. By the time I made it to VR they had already nerfed it pretty bad. I was easily able to run through VR5 (end cadwell silver) delves with no problem as a VR1. Of course that was shortly after Dwemer style came out and A'likir Desert was my silver end area, but I wanted to search the dwemer ruins.

Speaking of mer, I've always wondered why Orcs (Orsimer) are the only mer that typically don't use their technical name, or rather people don't refer to them by it. I suppose technically khajiit and argonian don't either but I believe the word used for them refers to beast people in general (Betmer). Since Betmer is pretty generic I can get it not being used for them commonly. However Orsimer is pretty specific. Likewise Dwemer don't get called Dwarves often.

I don't know. Maybe because Orc rymes with Pork and in lore they are referred to as Pig Children.??

Xendyn

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

Thanks for all the congratulations!

I just realized (yes, really) that all my characters are on a different Alliance. I wonder if that's a mistake and if I should re-roll them all to the same one.

Do you pvp?
That's really the only place it will matter once they take out the Travel to player in Cyro and your characters are locked into campaigns.

MissBizz

So... I FINALLY just realized something...

Will the next major update still be referred to as "Update 7"?

Because.. first.. we changed to 2.0.. and then console came and they just got patch like 1.0.05 or something..

There's no 6... so..

hmm...

MissBizz

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

Thanks for all the congratulations!

I just realized (yes, really) that all my characters are on a different Alliance. I wonder if that's a mistake and if I should re-roll them all to the same one.

Do you pvp?
That's really the only place it will matter once they take out the Travel to player in Cyro and your characters are locked into campaigns.

I'll be honest. I only enter Cyrodiil to gather as many skyshards and lorebooks as I can, and complete solo dungeons before I run into enemy players that will kill me.

Hah. Sounds familiar I wouldn't worry about it.. I actually like having toons in all 3 factions - it expands the amount of different people I can play with

lathbury

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

Ugh... did nearly two hundred dolmens, and still no appearance of the Ever-Open Eye in Rivenspire. This is getting frustrating, now.

PBpsy wrote: »

The best in zone PVE really happened if you had reached Vr zone 2-4 weeks after launch and before they launched Craglorn.
If you reached VR fast there were:
-not much spam.
-a lot less bots
-spontaneous groups forming that just stayed on and cleared all Dolmen's, WB ,Delves,
-the difficulty made sense.Not to easy but not hard either.
-low population but active population. You could get in a delve and be alone for a while and you could do most questing in peace.

Craglorn came:
-Mobs buffed by mistake to a power level higher than Craglorn.
-Most WB were solvable but some quest were a pain .
-Hot fix didn't actually fix many of the mob difficulty spikes.
-most zone grouping ended / stopped being required or even fun.Get away form my damn WB !!!!
-many people just left for Craglorn to grind and try soloing stuff. I personally did that. For a while some quests in V9-10 zones were harder than doing Hircine's solo.

A few months after ZOS stealth nerfed all ZONE pve to the ground. Nobody cared anymore though.

agreed and then they nerfed it all again I remember shadas tear for eg being quite good fun initially. now its faceroll stuff

Muizer

Hello. Is this the sanity sanctuary on the forums? Holy crap.............to think people were worried about the impact of B2P on the community......... Console release has pretty much turned these forums into a no-go area.

Shunravi

Muizer wrote: »

Hello. Is this the sanity sanctuary on the forums? Holy crap.............to think people were worried about the impact of B2P on the community......... Console release has pretty much turned these forums into a no-go area.

Welcome! Grab some popcorn, pet a puppy.



Wait out the storm....

PBpsy

Muizer wrote: »

Hello. Is this the sanity sanctuary on the forums? Holy crap.............to think people were worried about the impact of B2P on the community......... Console release has pretty much turned these forums into a no-go area.

Immershun.

MissBizz

@Muizer Welcome to the thread. Here you will find bouts of frustration, some funny gifs and meme's, some general tips as well as some questions. oh, and of course some wonderful reminiscing and pokes are each other.

My favorite topic here so far was "what's the laziest thing you've done in ESO" lol.

As well, the forums are pretty safe to go out too, I just think it brought on a lot of new faces. Some have brought up new (and old) ideas, new and old compliments and frustrations.

We'll all get along in the end.

MissBizz

Shunravi wrote: »

Muizer wrote: »

Hello. Is this the sanity sanctuary on the forums? Holy crap.............to think people were worried about the impact of B2P on the community......... Console release has pretty much turned these forums into a no-go area.

Welcome! Grab some popcorn, pet a puppy.



Wait out the storm....

Seriously.. that puppy is adorable! (and the mix of popcorn and puppies makes it quite fitting for the thread lol)

Muizer

I suppose so.

UrQuan

MissBizz wrote: »

So... I FINALLY just realized something...

Will the next major update still be referred to as "Update 7"?

Because.. first.. we changed to 2.0.. and then console came and they just got patch like 1.0.05 or something..

There's no 6... so..

hmm...

I think the numbering of the major updates goes:
1
2
3
95
98
NT
2000
XP
Vista
7
8
10

MissBizz

UrQuan wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

So... I FINALLY just realized something...

Will the next major update still be referred to as "Update 7"?

Because.. first.. we changed to 2.0.. and then console came and they just got patch like 1.0.05 or something..

There's no 6... so..

hmm...

I think the numbering of the major updates goes:
1
2
3
95
98
NT
2000
XP
Vista
7
8
10

My first computer had windows 3.1 I'm pretty sure. lol

UrQuan

MissBizz wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

So... I FINALLY just realized something...

Will the next major update still be referred to as "Update 7"?

Because.. first.. we changed to 2.0.. and then console came and they just got patch like 1.0.05 or something..

There's no 6... so..

hmm...

I think the numbering of the major updates goes:
1
2
3
95
98
NT
2000
XP
Vista
7
8
10

My first computer had windows 3.1 I'm pretty sure. lol

My first computer had... Well as I recall it didn't really have an operating system. Or would you consider the Commodore 64's KERNAL to be an OS? I mean it's more like a BIOS, isn't it?

MissBizz

UrQuan wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

So... I FINALLY just realized something...

Will the next major update still be referred to as "Update 7"?

Because.. first.. we changed to 2.0.. and then console came and they just got patch like 1.0.05 or something..

There's no 6... so..

hmm...

I think the numbering of the major updates goes:
1
2
3
95
98
NT
2000
XP
Vista
7
8
10

My first computer had windows 3.1 I'm pretty sure. lol

My first computer had... Well as I recall it didn't really have an operating system. Or would you consider the Commodore 64's KERNAL to be an OS? I mean it's more like a BIOS, isn't it?

Funny enough though.. most of the games we had for it didn't actually work through Windows.. has to use command prompts to get to them.. lmao

PBpsy

Or you could use Norton Commander like a boss.

JD2013

*Rears head slowly*

Is it safe?

freespirit

Today I realised I actually hadn't completed the Generals on any of my characters......

So that's what I've been doing all day.

A couple of hours ago my husband of 26 years looked over my shoulder a burst out laughing.....

What was so funny?

This.........



Apparently it resembles my sleeping form!!!

I am thinking on suitable payback.

UrQuan

Soooo, thanks to the console players all going nuts over people making it hard to become a vampire or werewolf, we now have a thread asking for vampirism and lycanthropy to be in the crown store.

Thoughts?

Shunravi

UrQuan wrote: »

Soooo, thanks to the console players all going nuts over people making it hard to become a vampire or werewolf, we now have a thread asking for vampirism and lycanthropy to be in the crown store.

Thoughts?

*my brain implodes*

MissBizz

UrQuan wrote: »

Soooo, thanks to the console players all going nuts over people making it hard to become a vampire or werewolf, we now have a thread asking for vampirism and lycanthropy to be in the crown store.

Thoughts?

Okay okay. I will add something constructive.

They will get their time, but to be honest. Had PC players had a crown store back at launch... They probably would have asked too. I just don't like the idea. It sucks people are mean and killing spawns etc.. But.. Time will change that. They will get bored, and more people will have bites to give out

Rune_Relic

UrQuan wrote: »

Soooo, thanks to the console players all going nuts over people making it hard to become a vampire or werewolf, we now have a thread asking for vampirism and lycanthropy to be in the crown store.

Thoughts?

No thoughts.... brain damaged beyond repair now

UrQuan

MissBizz wrote: »

I'm at the point where I've just gotten so sick of telling the console players to relax and wait, because bites will become easy to get...

PBpsy

MissBizz wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Soooo, thanks to the console players all going nuts over people making it hard to become a vampire or werewolf, we now have a thread asking for vampirism and lycanthropy to be in the crown store.

Thoughts?

Okay okay. I will add something constructive.

They will get their time, but to be honest. Had PC players had a crown store back at launch... They probably would have asked too. I just don't like the idea. It sucks people are mean and killing spawns etc.. But.. Time will change that. They will get bored, and more people will have bites to give out

Constructive he says ...
GET OUT!!! GET THE SNIP OUT!!!

And don't come around this thread until you revise your attitude and apologize and bring plenty of popcorn.

Nénlindë

Hi PC players!

Xendyn

Yeh, it's been said enough. I'm just ignoring those threads now and focusing on ones I can either help with or provide some history (or maybe take a potshot or two lol)

PBpsy

Nénlindë wrote: »

Hi PC players!

Intruder ALERT!!! Intruder ALERT!!!

All hands Battle Stations.

MissBizz

Pssst. I'm a she. Sorry I shall try to keep my constructive posts for elsewhere.

I brought popcorn but I think somebody's cat got in it