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Blackwater Blade (EU)

  • Praeficere
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    Aaaah, what fun stuff to read from the new bobs of BWB.
    Though the shadow has moved not,
    A thousand miles I’ve passed –
    Ageless as the mountains but forgetting not the past.

    Are you Resolute?
    PC EU Progression Guild
  • raviour
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    Valencer wrote: »
    Youre not the only one posting here though. :)

    I'd like to know who this red Ninja Smurf is, really!

    just check the roster or ask in guild chat
  • Praeficere
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    raviour wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    Youre not the only one posting here though. :)

    I'd like to know who this red Ninja Smurf is, really!

    just check the roster or ask in guild chat


    All of us Ninja Smurfs are red inside.
    Edited by Praeficere on November 18, 2015 5:56PM
    Though the shadow has moved not,
    A thousand miles I’ve passed –
    Ageless as the mountains but forgetting not the past.

    Are you Resolute?
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  • laksikus
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    Tzadik wrote: »
    It's little bit annoying how people here cry and moan about map being painted red for few days when, as person above me said, a month ago whole map was yellow every day. Also, yesterday AD/DC took everything from us, so I don't see what is the problem. There is certain kind of balance on BwB server, but that doesn't mean that we have to stop at Alessia bridge and not push further to keep that balance.

    Just play and enjoy.

    exactly my point AD AND DC took everything.
    no chance only 1 alliance could have done it against red zerg xD
  • Dral_Shady
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    laksikus wrote: »
    Tzadik wrote: »
    It's little bit annoying how people here cry and moan about map being painted red for few days when, as person above me said, a month ago whole map was yellow every day. Also, yesterday AD/DC took everything from us, so I don't see what is the problem. There is certain kind of balance on BwB server, but that doesn't mean that we have to stop at Alessia bridge and not push further to keep that balance.

    Just play and enjoy.

    exactly my point AD AND DC took everything.
    no chance only 1 alliance could have done it against red zerg xD

    And once more a month ago, no single alliance could have beaten the yellow zerg. Just one of the benefits of having a 3 part pvp system, when it works that is. Not long ago i was really mind boggled by a DC response when they refused to dethrone an AD emp. Reason was I was told : with a yellow emp not so many AD would log on and the AD zerg would be less...................
    Second hand information but it was obvious DC didnt do anything.
    Anyway zergs are no fun but everyone does it, even DC manage to zerg with their lesser numbers and its part of the game.
    Hell even gankers like to group up 3-4 and "zerg" single ones ;)
  • Master_Fluff
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    My guess is all those new characters I've seen in Glenumbra over the last few weeks are either not interested in PVP or hold the belief you have to be max level to enjoy it. That could possibly be the reasons for the lower numbers on our side.
    Halcyon Black
  • Valencer
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    You guys just need some consistent leadership. People will come if they can reliably find decent groups.

    DC definitely has the numbers. There's quite a few vet campaigns where the Covenant dominates..
    Edited by Valencer on October 28, 2015 1:51PM
  • Sproggles
    Sproggles
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    Where numbers are concerned it will be AD/DC's turn at some point, it often comes in waves, EP have had the edge in numbers recently, but prior to that it was AD in September etc.

    As to all the bitching about the zerg I tend to agree its a pain and can take away some of the fun as it just brings it to the 'there's more of us lol' approach to combat which is a valid approach but shouldn't be the only viable approach. However the zerg isn't a new thing, its always been there and all factions use it, the real issue is the pitiful damage in BWB at the moment, with some decent siege damage back the problem would resolve itself.

    Also you were ridiculous to kill while emp valencer, i want my damn decent siege back! :wink:

    Many baby Dk's and occasionally other things

    @Telathil
  • Asmael
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    Sproggles wrote: »
    Where numbers are concerned it will be AD/DC's turn at some point, it often comes in waves, EP have had the edge in numbers recently, but prior to that it was AD in September etc.

    As to all the bitching about the zerg I tend to agree its a pain and can take away some of the fun as it just brings it to the 'there's more of us lol' approach to combat which is a valid approach but shouldn't be the only viable approach. However the zerg isn't a new thing, its always been there and all factions use it, the real issue is the pitiful damage in BWB at the moment, with some decent siege damage back the problem would resolve itself.

    Also you were ridiculous to kill while emp valencer, i want my damn decent siege back! :wink:

    Meatbags, my friend, meatbags...
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  • Valencer
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    Meatbags are scary but 80% of the times I recall dying were because of CC immunity bugs or weapon swap bugs. 10+ guys spamming wrecking blow on you has a way of randomly stunlocking you. Not to mention looking at my screen made me feel like there was an earthquake in my vicinity :D
  • Mauz
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    Valencer wrote: »
    You guys just need some consistent leadership. People will come if they can reliably find decent groups.

    Thats crap sorry. Everyone I know in bwb wants to play smalescale or big random fights. If an organized raid of vet players joins bwb on one side it kills the campaign. If you have organized raids on all sides it kills smallscale...like in vet.

    Btw...with next patch you could transform your raid into a lag train.

    PS: and why the *** the server is down? It's primetime and I've time to play :(
    Edited by Mauz on October 28, 2015 5:29PM
  • Valencer
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    I don't understand, who said anything about organised raids of vet players?
  • laksikus
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    guess what:
    DC has finally the same amount of players online as EP.

    i would even go that far and say the pop is totally even atm between all 3 alliances
  • JamilaRaj
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    Mauz wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    You guys just need some consistent leadership. People will come if they can reliably find decent groups.

    Thats crap sorry. Everyone I know in bwb wants to play smalescale or big random fights. If an organized raid of vet players joins bwb on one side it kills the campaign. If you have organized raids on all sides it kills smallscale...like in vet.

    Btw...with next patch you could transform your raid into a lag train.

    PS: and why the *** the server is down? It's primetime and I've time to play :(

    I heard they would fix some major bugs with this patch, like stuck in combat or no party leader.
  • Mauz
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    JamilaRaj wrote: »
    I heard they would fix some major bugs with this patch, like stuck in combat or no party leader.

    At least stuck in combat has not been fixed. It's worse than ever. Sometimes I'm still in combat after respawn, or I come into combat after I ported to the gate to finish my quests.

    That was in Azura not in BwB. I didn't play in bwb anymore after the last three times I was there the map was red and either I saw noone after riding half an hour around or I just found a complete raid waiting for single players. EP always had more ppl than AD and DC together.

    In Azura I might have 15 fps and 500 latency in large scale battles but its the only balanced campaign right now. Battle leveled chars have higher stats than in BwB so I would recommend to go vet even for non vet chars. Fights are less static and 999+ lags are in my case gone. My VR3 stamina sorc has 2,5k weapon dmg buffed, 30k+ health and feels pretty competitive. With my main its more of an issue cause I don't have mats to craft max lvl gear. My dmg is higher but with only 20k hp I feel much less secure than with my VR3. I don't think you'll see me again in BwB. Vet pvp I find more fun :)
  • Master_Fluff
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    As long as you're having fun. That's really all that matters. Was throwing meteor around at Chalman and Kingscrest yesterday. I'm sure it surprised the Pact hordes. And some on our side too. :D
    Halcyon Black
  • Tillalarrien
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    Mauz wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    You guys just need some consistent leadership. People will come if they can reliably find decent groups.

    ../If an organized raid of vet players joins bwb on one side it kills the campaign. If you have organized raids on all sides it kills smallscale...like in vet

    Btw...with next patch you could transform your raid into a lag train. /..

    Hah yeah its funny how regular group leaders equal vet groups and lagtrains to you :)
    what luci is talking about are regular group leaders that have the grasp of basic strategy (u know, the one that shows u that pushing chal while AD is sitting at Ash and BRK with eyes on EMP is stupid?) that are prepared to form groups for newcomers and regular players alike, teach them PvP and group play and all in all provide fun any time u logg on :)
    Edited by Tillalarrien on November 2, 2015 11:03AM
    Valkynaz of the Daedric Order
  • laksikus
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    Mauz wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    You guys just need some consistent leadership. People will come if they can reliably find decent groups.

    ../If an organized raid of vet players joins bwb on one side it kills the campaign. If you have organized raids on all sides it kills smallscale...like in vet

    Btw...with next patch you could transform your raid into a lag train. /..

    Hah yeah its funny how regular group leaders equal vet groups and lagtrains to you :)
    what luci is talking about are regular group leaders that have the grasp of basic strategy (u know, the one that shows u that pushing chal while AD is sitting at Ash and BRK with eyes on EMP is stupid?) that are prepared to form groups for newcomers and regular players alike, teach them PvP and group play and all in all provide fun any time u logg on :)

    funny that you mention that.
    i have always pretty heated discussions when they start zerging chal with Ash being yellow.

    And one of our Pug Group Leaders is a total noob that thinks its strategic to zerg down chal so that "reds are busy and dont come to bleakers"....
  • Dral_Shady
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    As long as you're having fun. That's really all that matters. Was throwing meteor around at Chalman and Kingscrest yesterday. I'm sure it surprised the Pact hordes. And some on our side too. :D


    It always makes me giggle a little when I hear the meteor sound in Bwb :D

  • Dral_Shady
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    laksikus wrote: »
    Mauz wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    You guys just need some consistent leadership. People will come if they can reliably find decent groups.

    ../If an organized raid of vet players joins bwb on one side it kills the campaign. If you have organized raids on all sides it kills smallscale...like in vet

    Btw...with next patch you could transform your raid into a lag train. /..

    Hah yeah its funny how regular group leaders equal vet groups and lagtrains to you :)
    what luci is talking about are regular group leaders that have the grasp of basic strategy (u know, the one that shows u that pushing chal while AD is sitting at Ash and BRK with eyes on EMP is stupid?) that are prepared to form groups for newcomers and regular players alike, teach them PvP and group play and all in all provide fun any time u logg on :)

    funny that you mention that.
    i have always pretty heated discussions when they start zerging chal with Ash being yellow.

    And one of our Pug Group Leaders is a total noob that thinks its strategic to zerg down chal so that "reds are busy and dont come to bleakers"....

    Someone would have to sit down with him and explain the basic concept of homekeeps :s
  • laksikus
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    those stats are ridicolous
  • JamilaRaj
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    Dral_Shady wrote: »
    laksikus wrote: »
    Mauz wrote: »
    Valencer wrote: »
    You guys just need some consistent leadership. People will come if they can reliably find decent groups.

    ../If an organized raid of vet players joins bwb on one side it kills the campaign. If you have organized raids on all sides it kills smallscale...like in vet

    Btw...with next patch you could transform your raid into a lag train. /..

    Hah yeah its funny how regular group leaders equal vet groups and lagtrains to you :)
    what luci is talking about are regular group leaders that have the grasp of basic strategy (u know, the one that shows u that pushing chal while AD is sitting at Ash and BRK with eyes on EMP is stupid?) that are prepared to form groups for newcomers and regular players alike, teach them PvP and group play and all in all provide fun any time u logg on :)

    funny that you mention that.
    i have always pretty heated discussions when they start zerging chal with Ash being yellow.

    And one of our Pug Group Leaders is a total noob that thinks its strategic to zerg down chal so that "reds are busy and dont come to bleakers"....

    Someone would have to sit down with him and explain the basic concept of homekeeps :s

    I, for one, dislike exp buff from home keeps, not to mention that keeps like DC/Brindle/Drakelowe most of the time actually hurt the side that owns them.
  • Asmael
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    I didn't try him out yet, but...

    Stamblade Khajit with 5 pieces Hundings + 3 Night's silence, all pieces Divines with max stamina enchants, Warrior Mundus, food buff, 2H with Rally / WB / Executioner, Camo hunter, all attributes points into stamina, and a decent amount of CPs.

    Considering someone managed to pull off 12k on a WB without stealth...

    Ahuehuehuehuehue.

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    Feels to me BwB should be renamed to BlackNightBlade Land soon enough.
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  • Master_Fluff
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    Couldn't fool around in Cyrodiil, or anywhere else for that matter, yesterday. I was logged out every 5 minutes. So new battle spirit was left untested by me.
    Halcyon Black
  • Tzadik
    Tzadik
    Don't forget sorcerers. Crystal frag close to 10k... 50% of my HP :'(

    But I'm not sure what do I think of changes. I like the fact that my heals (even they aren't numerically too different) heal more (because everyone has less HP) and that 2 balista shots kill people...

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  • Tillalarrien
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    Tzadik wrote: »
    Don't forget sorcerers. Crystal frag close to 10k... 50% of my HP :'(

    But I'm not sure what do I think of changes. I like the fact that my heals (even they aren't numerically too different) heal more (because everyone has less HP) and that 2 balista shots kill people...

    I love new dmg/health ratio.. It feels like you r actually hittin and not just petting your opponent again :))

    Edit: with more playin i now think the dmg stacking is a bit extreme.. I had serious toughts to just abandon my build and stack spell dmg to onshot ppl as its apparently most effective right now.. So while I love dmg a bit less and less gear lvl dependable would be great :/
    Edited by Tillalarrien on November 6, 2015 7:50AM
    Valkynaz of the Daedric Order
  • Valencer
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    DC made off with both of AD's scrolls right before maintenance. It will be interesting to see if we're going to see more actual fighting between AD and DC now!
  • Sproggles
    Sproggles
    Soul Shriven
    Valencer wrote: »
    DC made off with both of AD's scrolls right before maintenance. It will be interesting to see if we're going to see more actual fighting between AD and DC now!

    From our perspective it feels as if DC and EP rarely fight and that EP mostly focuses AD and there is probably some truth to that as there is to what you said.

    I think it comes down to numbers, EP tends to have the most people while AD has the second most, though not always sometimes that switches. DC meanwhile are normally outnumbered by both of us and are less threatening because of it which means they attract less attention and have less capacity to hit several places at once.


    Many baby Dk's and occasionally other things

    @Telathil
  • Valencer
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    Sorry, but no.

    DC was at Chalman whenever they weren't going for emp, the whole campaign. AD gleefully walked into Ash almost every day and took it, then pushed BRK while blues kept pushing Chalman.

    Yesterday DC went for emp multiple times and nearly got it until we stopped them at Chalman at the last moment (while AD's keeps were blue). After AD got their home keeps back, they were straight back to pushing BRK again.

    After maintenance, almost all of AD's home keeps were blue due to a blue nightcap. Only Alessia was yellow. What does AD do? They took BRK. Right now every emp keep is blue except for BRK (which is yellow). We tried to rush down Chalman to prevent a blue emp and we got ganked in the back by the AD from BRK. The only thing preventing a blue emp as we speak is the fact that none of the blues have 50k AP yet (theyre eagerly waiting for this before they take BRK).

    Usually I laugh about people shouting GREEN VS RED, but this campaign... my god, you guys have been trying so very hard.
    Edited by Valencer on November 10, 2015 2:41PM
  • laksikus
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    sounds legit, even if i wasnt that much on that campaign.

    Sounds very blueish to run to chal and not defend or siege Ash
    Edited by laksikus on November 11, 2015 11:13AM
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