At about fifteen bucks per month, I would suggest making adjustments in your budget (cancel HBO like I did and use movietube.org instead) and go with the ESO + membership to fund the game we love so we can continue playing tomorrow.
I might be old fashioned, but people really need to get out of the "What are you going to do for me" mindset.
olemanwinter wrote: »You are suggesting people pay money to a corporation without asking what they are providing for the money. lol
Gidorick wrote:Alright, Zenimax Online! We've bought the game and signed up for the subscriptions now it's time to show us why the money is worth it!
Hi guys, there's some very constructive discussion in this thread, but some of the posts are rather inflammatory or otherwise problematic. Please be mindful of the forum rules, and keep all comments and criticism civil and constructive. We will not tolerate trolling, demands, abusive or insulting language toward our community members, developers, company, or ESO itself.
Oh yeah? well we will not tolerate poor game concepts, crappy programming, Server side lag in PvP, broken quests, poor mechanics for grouping, lack of an AH that's worth a damn, laughable banking system, and inability to fix the issues. I'm with the OP; this game blows and is simply not getting any better.
I recently noticed that Archeage's sub benefits have been given a bit of an upgrade...
And I've been thinking about The Secret World's subscription too...
Those Exclusive Items and Store Discounts are really enticing.
When compared to what ESO+ gives you...
There's just no doubt that ESO+ is lacking... Now, that being said... The Secret World doesn't give subscribers access to their Expansions (They call Issues, like a comic!)... so the more DLC that comes out for ESO, the more enticing the Subscription will become. Right now, there's just not much to make a person go "yea! That's worth it!"
Hi guys, there's some very constructive discussion in this thread, but some of the posts are rather inflammatory or otherwise problematic. Please be mindful of the forum rules, and keep all comments and criticism civil and constructive. We will not tolerate trolling, demands, abusive or insulting language toward our community members, developers, company, or ESO itself.
Oh yeah? well we will not tolerate poor game concepts, crappy programming, Server side lag in PvP, broken quests, poor mechanics for grouping, lack of an AH that's worth a damn, laughable banking system, and inability to fix the issues. I'm with the OP; this game blows and is simply not getting any better.
SorataArisugawa wrote: »Hi guys, there's some very constructive discussion in this thread, but some of the posts are rather inflammatory or otherwise problematic. Please be mindful of the forum rules, and keep all comments and criticism civil and constructive. We will not tolerate trolling, demands, abusive or insulting language toward our community members, developers, company, or ESO itself.
Oh yeah? well we will not tolerate poor game concepts, crappy programming, Server side lag in PvP, broken quests, poor mechanics for grouping, lack of an AH that's worth a damn, laughable banking system, and inability to fix the issues. I'm with the OP; this game blows and is simply not getting any better.
Poor game concepts? Lack of AH? Laughable banking system? :-D You are sooo damn wrong.
That is all you little biased opinion (alonge with some othere crybabies here in the thread). If you don't like the game (or don't like it anymore) than go away. A rant in this form here in the forums will change nothing. And your opinion stated in this way is worth nothing, too. You are lucky, that they have to be nice to their "custumers". So they tolerate very hyperbolic, useless, agressiv, self-referred and close minded comments from you and some others here...
I hope this thread is going to get closed. I thought the annoying people will come with the P2P change. But it seems that they were here all the time...
we will not tolerate poor game concepts, crappy programming, Server side lag in PvP, broken quests, poor mechanics for grouping, lack of an AH that's worth a damn, laughable banking system, and inability to fix the issues. I'm with the OP; this game blows and is simply not getting any better.
MercyKilling wrote: »I find this thread really depressing.
ESO is the only real F2P MMO I ever played.
This isn't a F2P MMO. You had to purchase the "box" so to speak. There is an initial outlay of money to be able to download/install the game, thus it is not F2P.
I suggest you go check out Craptic...err...Cryptic games and three titles of theirs. Three IP's that they totally ruined, imnsho.
Champions Online.
Star Trek Online.
Neverwinter.
All three of those intellectual properties have been totally ruined by the company by making them F2P. Costs you absolutely nothing to be able to download any of them or even all of them.
Go ahead, I double dog dare you. Play those games and then come back here and suggest that anything in this thread is an abomination that you are "sick of hearing about".
Go and experience for yourself how badly a game developer can ruin things. We've got it pretty good here right now, but there is room for improvement...which is what we all want. Improvement.
"lordrichter wrote: »"They break way too much stuff with updates and patches that were working before.
olemanwinter wrote: »"lordrichter wrote: »"They break way too much stuff with updates and patches that were working before.
I stopped reading there. Not because you are wrong, but because that one intro sentence is just so powerful on it's own.
This freaking blows my mind. How you fix things one week and then rebreak them again two weeks later.
Mind blown Zos. Mind...Blown.
olemanwinter wrote: »"lordrichter wrote: »"They break way too much stuff with updates and patches that were working before.
I stopped reading there. Not because you are wrong, but because that one intro sentence is just so powerful on it's own.
This freaking blows my mind. How you fix things one week and then rebreak them again two weeks later.
Mind blown Zos. Mind...Blown.
Honestly, stuff breaking in ways that they didn't expect, I can get. Its the inability, or outright non-desire, to deliver on what they promise in a timely fashion, that I find really concerning.
Reminds me of this old bird my dad was dating when i was a kid.olemanwinter wrote: »"lordrichter wrote: »"They break way too much stuff with updates and patches that were working before.
I stopped reading there. Not because you are wrong, but because that one intro sentence is just so powerful on it's own.
This freaking blows my mind. How you fix things one week and then rebreak them again two weeks later.
Mind blown Zos. Mind...Blown.
Honestly, stuff breaking in ways that they didn't expect, I can get. Its the inability, or outright non-desire, to deliver on what they promise in a timely fashion, that I find really concerning.
Well, all promises are off now! We get what we get when we get it.
olemanwinter wrote: »"lordrichter wrote: »"They break way too much stuff with updates and patches that were working before.
I stopped reading there. Not because you are wrong, but because that one intro sentence is just so powerful on it's own.
This freaking blows my mind. How you fix things one week and then rebreak them again two weeks later.
Mind blown Zos. Mind...Blown.
Honestly, stuff breaking in ways that they didn't expect, I can get. Its the inability, or outright non-desire, to deliver on what they promise in a timely fashion, that I find really concerning.
Well, all promises are off now! We get what we get when we get it.
olemanwinter wrote: »"lordrichter wrote: »"They break way too much stuff with updates and patches that were working before.
I stopped reading there. Not because you are wrong, but because that one intro sentence is just so powerful on it's own.
This freaking blows my mind. How you fix things one week and then rebreak them again two weeks later.
Mind blown Zos. Mind...Blown.
Honestly, stuff breaking in ways that they didn't expect, I can get. Its the inability, or outright non-desire, to deliver on what they promise in a timely fashion, that I find really concerning.
Well, all promises are off now! We get what we get when we get it.
Well we know it wont be until MONTHS FROM NOW at the earliest.
Honestly, stuff breaking in ways that they didn't expect, I can get. Its the inability, or outright non-desire, to deliver on what they promise in a timely fashion, that I find really concerning.
olemanwinter wrote: »Honestly, stuff breaking in ways that they didn't expect, I can get. Its the inability, or outright non-desire, to deliver on what they promise in a timely fashion, that I find really concerning.
Of course it's going to break in ways they "don't expect". How else would it break? On purpose?
Just because something is an accident doesn't make it okay.
More and more Zos reminds me of my 7 year old son.
The other day he tooks his mother's contact lenses (the little two-pod carrier) and played with them like a space ship...and lost the contacts out of it.
His defense. "It was a mistake". Ummmm, yeah! Duh. lol
I recently noticed that Archeage's sub benefits have been given a bit of an upgrade...
And I've been thinking about The Secret World's subscription too...
Those Exclusive Items and Store Discounts are really enticing.
When compared to what ESO+ gives you...
There's just no doubt that ESO+ is lacking... Now, that being said... The Secret World doesn't give subscribers access to their Expansions (They call Issues, like a comic!)... so the more DLC that comes out for ESO, the more enticing the Subscription will become. Right now, there's just not much to make a person go "yea! That's worth it!"
I recently noticed that Archeage's sub benefits have been given a bit of an upgrade...
And I've been thinking about The Secret World's subscription too...
Those Exclusive Items and Store Discounts are really enticing.
When compared to what ESO+ gives you...
There's just no doubt that ESO+ is lacking... Now, that being said... The Secret World doesn't give subscribers access to their Expansions (They call Issues, like a comic!)... so the more DLC that comes out for ESO, the more enticing the Subscription will become. Right now, there's just not much to make a person go "yea! That's worth it!"
Add in the fact in the long run it might be worth just buying the dlc instead of going through ESO+ that only lets you (RENT) the dlc. If you stop paying for eso plus you will loose all your dlc same goes if you lapse a month.
If the dlc end up been 20-30 dollars a pop
Over 15 dollars a month
They said it takes at least 4 months to make a new area
So at the very best 5 months after testing
5x15 75 dollars
Or 20-30 dollars one time payment
So as it stands the best option is to just not to give zos any money and then just buy the dlc every 5-6 months you would be saving alot and only missing out on 10% exp bonus that you dont even notice.
@GidorickI recently noticed that Archeage's sub benefits have been given a bit of an upgrade...
And I've been thinking about The Secret World's subscription too...
Those Exclusive Items and Store Discounts are really enticing.
When compared to what ESO+ gives you...
There's just no doubt that ESO+ is lacking... Now, that being said... The Secret World doesn't give subscribers access to their Expansions (They call Issues, like a comic!)... so the more DLC that comes out for ESO, the more enticing the Subscription will become. Right now, there's just not much to make a person go "yea! That's worth it!"
Add in the fact in the long run it might be worth just buying the dlc instead of going through ESO+ that only lets you (RENT) the dlc. If you stop paying for eso plus you will loose all your dlc same goes if you lapse a month.
If the dlc end up been 20-30 dollars a pop
Over 15 dollars a month
They said it takes at least 4 months to make a new area
So at the very best 5 months after testing
5x15 75 dollars
Or 20-30 dollars one time payment
So as it stands the best option is to just not to give zos any money and then just buy the dlc every 5-6 months you would be saving alot and only missing out on 10% exp bonus that you dont even notice.
My plan, @Heromofo, is to sub for one month when a DLC comes out, play the DLC. If I make it though the DLC and I don't feel the need to own it. Cool beans, I just got the DLC for $15. If I want to own it... I'll just use the 1500 Crowns I got from the 1 month sub, add some more crowns, and buy the DLC. It's like a paid demo with zero risk!
@GidorickI recently noticed that Archeage's sub benefits have been given a bit of an upgrade...
And I've been thinking about The Secret World's subscription too...
Those Exclusive Items and Store Discounts are really enticing.
When compared to what ESO+ gives you...
There's just no doubt that ESO+ is lacking... Now, that being said... The Secret World doesn't give subscribers access to their Expansions (They call Issues, like a comic!)... so the more DLC that comes out for ESO, the more enticing the Subscription will become. Right now, there's just not much to make a person go "yea! That's worth it!"
Add in the fact in the long run it might be worth just buying the dlc instead of going through ESO+ that only lets you (RENT) the dlc. If you stop paying for eso plus you will loose all your dlc same goes if you lapse a month.
If the dlc end up been 20-30 dollars a pop
Over 15 dollars a month
They said it takes at least 4 months to make a new area
So at the very best 5 months after testing
5x15 75 dollars
Or 20-30 dollars one time payment
So as it stands the best option is to just not to give zos any money and then just buy the dlc every 5-6 months you would be saving alot and only missing out on 10% exp bonus that you dont even notice.
My plan, @Heromofo, is to sub for one month when a DLC comes out, play the DLC. If I make it though the DLC and I don't feel the need to own it. Cool beans, I just got the DLC for $15. If I want to own it... I'll just use the 1500 Crowns I got from the 1 month sub, add some more crowns, and buy the DLC. It's like a paid demo with zero risk!
Thats a brillant idea lol i think i might do that as well but zos is missing out on money if they dont make changes then lol.
@GidorickI recently noticed that Archeage's sub benefits have been given a bit of an upgrade...
And I've been thinking about The Secret World's subscription too...
Those Exclusive Items and Store Discounts are really enticing.
When compared to what ESO+ gives you...
There's just no doubt that ESO+ is lacking... Now, that being said... The Secret World doesn't give subscribers access to their Expansions (They call Issues, like a comic!)... so the more DLC that comes out for ESO, the more enticing the Subscription will become. Right now, there's just not much to make a person go "yea! That's worth it!"
Add in the fact in the long run it might be worth just buying the dlc instead of going through ESO+ that only lets you (RENT) the dlc. If you stop paying for eso plus you will loose all your dlc same goes if you lapse a month.
If the dlc end up been 20-30 dollars a pop
Over 15 dollars a month
They said it takes at least 4 months to make a new area
So at the very best 5 months after testing
5x15 75 dollars
Or 20-30 dollars one time payment
So as it stands the best option is to just not to give zos any money and then just buy the dlc every 5-6 months you would be saving alot and only missing out on 10% exp bonus that you dont even notice.
My plan, @Heromofo, is to sub for one month when a DLC comes out, play the DLC. If I make it though the DLC and I don't feel the need to own it. Cool beans, I just got the DLC for $15. If I want to own it... I'll just use the 1500 Crowns I got from the 1 month sub, add some more crowns, and buy the DLC. It's like a paid demo with zero risk!
Thats a brillant idea lol i think i might do that as well but zos is missing out on money if they dont make changes then lol.
Indeed.... the whole ESO+ subscription is half-hearted. It's like they sat down in a meeting to discuss what ESO+ should entail and they took the first 3 things that were said and was like "well... good enough! Let's get a hoagie."