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Rise of the planet of the Sorcs

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  • Ifthir_ESO
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    LOL 15k Crystal Fragments from the emperor when I have 37k SR, I don't want to hear any sorcs crying about anything, ever again.

    Emp or not, that is not balance, its a tactical nuke who also has infinite stacked shields and instant escapes in the rare chance those shields go down

    not sure how anyone can call that balance
    Edited by Ifthir_ESO on April 24, 2015 7:52PM
  • Satiar
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    15k? I've been hit 25k. Heh.
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  • Teargrants
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    LOL 15k Crystal Fragments from the emperor when I have 37k SR, I don't want to hear any sorcs crying about anything, ever again.

    Emp or not, that is not balance, its a tactical nuke who also has infinite stacked shields and instant escapes in the rare chance those shields go down

    not sure how anyone can call that balance
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  • Ifthir_ESO
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    @teargrants hard to say who is the bigger sorc homer, you or @Ezareth . 25k crystal frags, emp or not, are stupid and not fun for everyone but the player casting them.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler is there any plans to implement any semblance of balance in the game?
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  • Teargrants
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    @teargrants hard to say who is the bigger sorc homer, you or @Ezareth . 25k crystal frags, emp or not, are stupid and not fun for everyone but the player casting them.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler is there any plans to implement any semblance of balance in the game?
    Your post cited 15k frags, now the number is magically 25k when your assertion is called into question? And now it's suddenly "emp or not"? Well which is it? Emp or not emp that is hitting your for these numbers through your 5 piece nirnhoned gear?
    Satiar wrote: »
    Dont respond to Teargrants, I know him too well. You will only make him stronger. He feeds off our QQ, and uses it to fuel his diabolical BoL machine.
    Steve, you were getting 23k + steel tornados when you were emp one shotting ppl with an aoe. Wai u do dis?
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  • Ifthir_ESO
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    Your post cited 15k frags, now the number is magically 25k when your assertion is called into question?

    Actually he hit me for 14.7k with 37k SR. Satiar posted...
    Satiar wrote: »
    15k? I've been hit 25k. Heh.

    I know reading is challenging for you @Teargrants but try and keep up.
    Teargrants wrote: »
    And now it's suddenly "emp or not"? Well which is it? Emp or not emp that is hitting your for these numbers through your 5 piece nirnhoned gear?

    The phrase "Emp or not" means the fact the player is emperor is irrelevant. 25k insta gibs are ridiculous. I dont care if the player is emperor for a year. Just my opinion though.
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Steve, you were getting 23k + steel tornados when you were emp one shotting ppl with an aoe. Wai u do dis?

    Tornado is an aoe execute. If enemies he was fighting were low health, this number doesn't seem unrealistic. Just like a huge crit on an execute crystal frag would be non-normal. If he was hitting 25k steel tornados as emperor on full health enemies, then that is ridiculous and unbalanced too.
    Edited by Ifthir_ESO on April 24, 2015 8:32PM
  • Ezareth
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Dont respond to Teargrants, I know him too well. You will only make him stronger. He feeds off our QQ, and uses it to fuel his diabolical BoL machine.

    You grouping with Teargrants is probably why you think Sorcs are OP. He has fed on the tears of so many Terribads that he can't help but be OP.
    Teargrants wrote: »
    Steve, you were getting 23k + steel tornados when you were emp one shotting ppl with an aoe. Wai u do dis?

    If we ever get nerfed, I'm blaming you @Teargrants ( =

    I'm leveling up my pinch hitter for you. Get ready to get knocked out of the park!
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    Actually he hit me for 14.7k with 37k SR.
    You understand that every 1000 magicka you add gives a damage increase close to what 100 spell damage gives? You do understand that an emp can easily stack 50k + magicka? You do understand that whatever numbers an emperor hits you for are completely irrelevant to any discussion of class balance because of the fact that they have emperor stats?
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    Satiar posted...
    Satiar wrote: »
    15k? I've been hit 25k. Heh.
    I know reading is challenging for you @Teargrants but try and keep up.
    Steve has 11k spell resist, that was from Pixy.

    Likewise I've been hit for 19k lethal arrows in my 16k armor. Should I make a nerf bow thread?
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    The phrase "Emp or not" means the fact the player is emperor is irrelevant. 25k insta gibs are ridiculous. I dont care if the player is emperor for a year. Just my opinion though.
    Your entire initial complaint was based the damage that an emperor did to you in your nirnhoned gear, from which you concluded that,
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    I don't want to hear any sorcs crying about anything, ever again.
    The fact hat you were talking about emp is completely relevant.


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  • Derra
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    "Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

    The phrase "Emp or not" means the fact the player is emperor is irrelevant. 25k insta gibs are ridiculous. I dont care if the player is emperor for a year. Just my opinion though.
    unbalanced

    I've been getting 2shot by bows out of stealth since last year. Ppl told me to deal with it or slot a f*n toggle. I suggest you learn to block a slow moving projectile or you deal with it.
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  • Ezareth
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    Teargrants wrote: »
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    Actually he hit me for 14.7k with 37k SR.
    You understand that every 1000 magicka you add gives a damage increase close to what 100 spell damage gives? You do understand that an emp can easily stack 50k + magicka? You do understand that whatever numbers an emperor hits you for are completely irrelevant to any discussion of class balance because of the fact that they have emperor stats?
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    Satiar posted...
    Satiar wrote: »
    15k? I've been hit 25k. Heh.
    I know reading is challenging for you @Teargrants but try and keep up.
    Steve has 11k spell resist, that was from Pixy.

    Likewise I've been hit for 19k lethal arrows in my 16k armor. Should I make a nerf bow thread?
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    The phrase "Emp or not" means the fact the player is emperor is irrelevant. 25k insta gibs are ridiculous. I dont care if the player is emperor for a year. Just my opinion though.
    Your entire initial complaint was based the damage that an emperor did to you in your nirnhoned gear, from which you concluded that,
    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    I don't want to hear any sorcs crying about anything, ever again.
    The fact hat you were talking about emp is completely relevant.


    A good emp will actually have 60K+ Magicka and cast Crystal Fragments strong enough to make Chuck Norris cry. I'd switch all my gear over to Magicka/Spell damage if I were to get Emp then. Thinking about them Emp Ov'rloads hitting those pesky nightblades in the face makes me....excited.
    Derra wrote: »
    "Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

    The phrase "Emp or not" means the fact the player is emperor is irrelevant. 25k insta gibs are ridiculous. I dont care if the player is emperor for a year. Just my opinion though.
    unbalanced

    I've been getting 2shot by bows out of stealth since last year. Ppl told me to deal with it or slot a f*n toggle. I suggest you learn to block a slow moving projectile or you deal with it.

    He's been crying about Sorcs since well before 1.6


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  • FENGRUSH
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    Emperor Prett has 75k mana
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  • Ezareth
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Emperor Prett has 75k mana

    /drool

    Man I need to take a week off work to make another Emp push.
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  • WRX
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    HOLY ****. THIS THREAD IS STILL GOING?! KILL IT WITH FIRE ZOS.

    This crying is really ridiculous though. Sorc's are fine. You can block mages fury and its explosion, block curse, and reflect everything else.

    Seeing all the nightblades in here crying is amusing too. NB OP.
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  • Ifthir_ESO
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    Emperor Prett has 75k mana

    Whatever it is, it is absolutely painful. Dude has detects up constantly and is a nuke machine who can shield and escape in a flash.

    Gonna have to try and see if we cant dethrone them now that Ive vented about it.
  • ToRelax
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    What is a long nerf thread without some complains about an emp of that class... :)
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  • Erock25
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    Why do Sorc nerf whine threads stay open while NB and Temp nerf whine threads get shut down?
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Why do Sorc nerf whine threads stay open while NB and Temp nerf whine threads get shut down?

    This man speak the truth.
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Why do Sorc nerf whine threads stay open while NB and Temp nerf whine threads get shut down?

    Because Sorcs are actually op?

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    xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    Why do Sorc nerf whine threads stay open while NB and Temp nerf whine threads get shut down?

    Because Sorcs are actually op?

    Dude, NBs can snipe people for up to 19k each.... thats not op? Sorcs can barely do that much with OVERLOAD (ultimate) yet people crying for nerf....

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    PainfulFAFA wrote: »
    xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    Why do Sorc nerf whine threads stay open while NB and Temp nerf whine threads get shut down?

    Because Sorcs are actually op?

    Dude, NBs can snipe people for up to 19k each.... thats not op? Sorcs can barely do that much with OVERLOAD (ultimate) yet people crying for nerf....

    19k out of stealth with max. Weapon dmg, zero substain and on low armor people.
    I run around with 9k Armor and I never got hit by a Snipe higher than 15k, but 20k frags here and there.

    You deal that amount damage without stealth while not running out of Ressources.

    So funny lol.
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  • Erock25
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    Soulac wrote: »
    PainfulFAFA wrote: »
    xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    Why do Sorc nerf whine threads stay open while NB and Temp nerf whine threads get shut down?

    Because Sorcs are actually op?

    Dude, NBs can snipe people for up to 19k each.... thats not op? Sorcs can barely do that much with OVERLOAD (ultimate) yet people crying for nerf....

    19k out of stealth with max. Weapon dmg, zero substain and on low armor people.
    I run around with 9k Armor and I never got hit by a Snipe higher than 15k, but 20k frags here and there.

    You deal that amount damage without stealth while not running out of Ressources.

    So funny lol.

    NB was hitting me for 20k snipes and could mist form away faster than spammed bolt escape. Just because you don't think it is possible, doesn't mean it isn't.
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    Ifthir_ESO wrote: »
    LOL 15k Crystal Fragments from the emperor when I have 37k SR, I don't want to hear any sorcs crying about anything, ever again.

    Emp or not

    You can't say, "Emp or not" when discussing balance issues, as Emp is a really big deal.
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  • pkb16_ESO2
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Why do Sorc nerf whine threads stay open while NB and Temp nerf whine threads get shut down?

    Because temp whine threads cant be tanken serious. I have no probs with NB...
    But: SORC IS OP.
    and plz nerf forum sorcs.
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  • bgoldbeck21_ESO
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    What is funny to me is back when everyone cried DK was OP and every forum response from DK's was just "L2P". Then Zeni gave them all the nerf hammer.

    Seems to me Sorcs are gonna have to learn the same lesson.
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    PainfulFAFA wrote: »
    xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    Why do Sorc nerf whine threads stay open while NB and Temp nerf whine threads get shut down?

    Because Sorcs are actually op?

    Dude, NBs can snipe people for up to 19k each.... thats not op? Sorcs can barely do that much with OVERLOAD (ultimate) yet people crying for nerf....

    19k out of stealth with max. Weapon dmg, zero substain and on low armor people.
    I run around with 9k Armor and I never got hit by a Snipe higher than 15k, but 20k frags here and there.

    You deal that amount damage without stealth while not running out of Ressources.

    So funny lol.

    NB was hitting me for 20k snipes and could mist form away faster than spammed bolt escape. Just because you don't think it is possible, doesn't mean it isn't.

    considering you can't dodge roll while in mistform, and mistform only gives you the standard 40% speed buff..I'm going to call BS.

    Also going to call BS on 20k Snipes as well...simply because the only way you're going to manage that is with 4k+ weapon power, and you can't get that without Ravager..and you can't sneak attack while people are standing in your Caltrops.

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