Rise of the planet of the Sorcs

TheBucket

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Well according to all the threads I've posted in about sorcs. I have it on good authority that they're not overpowered because all the Sorcs say so, and I should take their word on it.

Lol yea

Ezareth

Nala_ wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Yeah I died so many times last night through a dodge roll from wrecking blow last night.....even double dodge rolls....died every time. 2 handers are so damn buggy and broken it's sad. I don't care if I get 1-shotted or whatever because I ran out of stam, let my shields down and didn't block or whatever but If I double dodge roll double bolt escape and some DK flys at me back from my starting position in the middle of my second dodge roll and sends me flying like a foul ball mid-roll something is wrong with that ability.

walk through it you dunce, it automatically stops the animation.....dodge rolling around rofl...so bad

Yeah it stops the animation if the guy wielding the sword is a terri-bad. I tried several times having people "walk through" my two-hander and I was able to hit them by mouse looking in their direction as they passed through every single time no matter what they did and I had never used a 2-hander before that. With practice it is virtually impossible to miss with this ability unless they dodge roll (and it works) or they bolt esc

PeggymoeXD

Yeaahhhhhhhh don't admit on the forums that 3 of you couldn't kill 1 sorc especially if he didn't bolt away and force you to chase him lol I will agree that sorcs have no reason to whine about their class anymore. I mean, unless they're not camping mines and shield stacking like the Roman Army. Then I guess they can whine.

TheBucket

SA and CW both go through dOdge. Been saying this for weeks. People dont listen lol

TheBucket

Ezareth wrote: »

Nala_ wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Yeah I died so many times last night through a dodge roll from wrecking blow last night.....even double dodge rolls....died every time. 2 handers are so damn buggy and broken it's sad. I don't care if I get 1-shotted or whatever because I ran out of stam, let my shields down and didn't block or whatever but If I double dodge roll double bolt escape and some DK flys at me back from my starting position in the middle of my second dodge roll and sends me flying like a foul ball mid-roll something is wrong with that ability.

walk through it you dunce, it automatically stops the animation.....dodge rolling around rofl...so bad

Yeah it stops the animation if the guy wielding the sword is a terri-bad. I tried several times having people "walk through" my two-hander and I was able to hit them by mouse looking in their direction as they passed through every single time no matter what they did and I had never used a 2-hander before that. With practice it is virtually impossible to miss with this ability unless they dodge roll (and it works) or they bolt esc

You can walk through it easily. They best way ive found is to just stand in the WB spammers character model lol

Lava_Croft

Any half-decent Sorcerer is just a waste of time. It's best to just ignore them completely and let them play a different game than the rest.

Let's just hope it won't take ZOS nearly a year to fix Sorcerers...

Ryuho

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Any half-decent Sorcerer is just a waste of time. It's best to just ignore them completely and let them play a different game than the rest.

Let's just hope it won't take ZOS nearly a year to fix Sorcerers...

Fix Sorcerers haha

In terms of the "fix", pls ZOS "fix":
1. perma blinkers,
2. perma 360 blockers,
3. perma reflect scale spammers,
4. perma cloakers,
5. perma dodgers,
6. perma shield spammers,
7. perma mist spammers.

Stop Qq about Sorc, evry class have some spammable ability and also utility, which helps with escaping etc..

Lava_Croft

Ryuho wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Any half-decent Sorcerer is just a waste of time. It's best to just ignore them completely and let them play a different game than the rest.

Let's just hope it won't take ZOS nearly a year to fix Sorcerers...

Fix Sorcerers haha

In terms of the "fix", pls ZOS "fix":
1. perma blinkers,
2. perma 360 blockers,
3. perma reflect scale spammers,
4. perma cloakers,
5. perma dodgers,
6. perma shield spammers,
7. perma mist spammers.

Stop Qq about Sorc, evry class have some spammable ability and also utility, which helps with escaping etc..

You'll have to point me to the part I wrote about 'spammable abilities'.

Sorcerers are currently out of control because:

• Much damage
• Much tank
• Much escape

All from stacking one single attribute.

Yes, other classes can stack either Magicka or Stamina but no other class has had such a huge benefit from the softcap removal as Sorcerers. Call me QQ, call me noob, call me whatever, but after a year of (almost exclusively) playing PvP, you have to be blind to not notice the current situation. This is Dragon Knight 2.0, only much harder to actually kill since DK2.0 has the best escape ability in the game, whereas DK1.0 would always end up dying.

DezIsDead

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Any half-decent Sorcerer is just a waste of time. It's best to just ignore them completely and let them play a different game than the rest.

Let's just hope it won't take ZOS nearly a year to fix Sorcerers...

Fix Sorcerers haha

In terms of the "fix", pls ZOS "fix":
1. perma blinkers,
2. perma 360 blockers,
3. perma reflect scale spammers,
4. perma cloakers,
5. perma dodgers,
6. perma shield spammers,
7. perma mist spammers.

Stop Qq about Sorc, evry class have some spammable ability and also utility, which helps with escaping etc..

You'll have to point me to the part I wrote about 'spammable abilities'.

Sorcerers are currently out of control because:

• Much damage
• Much tank
• Much escape

All from stacking one single attribute.

Yes, other classes can stack either Magicka or Stamina but no other class has had such a huge benefit from the softcap removal as Sorcerers. Call me QQ, call me noob, call me whatever, but after a year of (almost exclusively) playing PvP, you have to be blind to not notice the current situation. This is Dragon Knight 2.0, only much harder to actually kill since DK2.0 has the best escape ability in the game, whereas DK1.0 would always end up dying.

I mean that's an exaggeration, show me one video of a sorc 1v10 like 1.5 and earlier DK's and I'll agree it's worse. 1v1 yeah sorcs are really awesome right now if played by someone competent. But by no means are they 1.5 DK flap talon standard everyone dies bad.

Ryuho

DezIsDead wrote: »

I mean that's an exaggeration, show me one video of a sorc 1v10 like 1.5 and earlier DK's and I'll agree it's worse. 1v1 yeah sorcs are really awesome right now if played by someone competent. But by no means are they 1.5 DK flap talon standard everyone dies bad.

This.

1 vs 10 possible only tru kiting.

Septimus_Magna

Nerfing Hardened Ward is not an option, its the ONLY physical damage mitigation skill sorcs have. Two attackers melt hardened ward instantly, its a 9k shield without any damage mitigation.

Templars complaining about Hardened Ward while they have incredibly self heals (defensive) which also scale off magicka and spell damage.

DKs can reflect most sorcs attacks simply by using Reflective Scales, only curse and mages fury are not reflected.

NBs have fear which almost instantly drains a sorcs stamina which prevents sorcs from casting shields plus they can vanish in combat by using cloak. Most NBs use stamina builds and do physical damage, sorcs only have Hardened Ward to protect against those attacks.

Learn to play your class and learn how to counter other classes, every class can beat each other if you know how to play.

ToRelax

Sorcs can take on a lot of noobs brainlessly chasing them not wasting a thought on defense, the infamous DK tanks can kill noobs brainlessly shooting in their wings and staying in melee range. Yes, both annoying, and the Sorcerer probably has better chances to win when there is also only one competent player against him. But I fail to see the problem, people say Sorc has good offense and defense with spending points in one attribute only, truth is the offense is pathetic compared to other classes if your attributes are balanced and you can not tank anything if they use stamina builds.

FearlessOne_2014

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Shield stacking is not a sorcerer issue. No sorc can shield stack without the use of other abilities available to every class. Any DK or templar can have just as many shields up as a sorc at any given time.

Here is an OP shield stack:

Wear whitestrakes gear and use (2H or S&B) and resto - enchant your weapons with hardening. Charge in with shielded assault (or crit rush into brawler) if they burn through all that and your health goes down, whitestrakes will proc, immediately hit dampen magicka then pop barrier then pop a healing ward on top of barrier while your health is still low. Your weapon enchant shields should have proced by then giving you even more shields.

So many shields! Clearly this proves that sorcerer needs to get nerfed!

Yes sorcs have one strong damage shield, but it doesnt stack on itself. When you see a sorcerer with a blue health bar that goes across the screen they are using annulment or dampen and it won't even stop your weapon damage.

This is like saying that sorcs are OP because they use crushing shock and nirnhoned/sharpened/whatever trait is bugged next.

I think the main issue is that people have it in their minds that sorcs are supposed to be glass cannons with decent DPS but they are supposed to disintegrate like wet tissue paper if hit by a strong breeze. If you hit a sorc with a few light attacks and the sorc doesn't immediately explode then its time for another QQ thread.

If you don't like the shield meta, then tell ZOS to incentivize hybrid builds instead of just crying for nerfs. I'd much rather be a stamina sorc than a shield stacking, stick wielding, dress parade but I can't run a hybrid build anymore. I don't have enough resources to hold the attribute numbers in both magicka and stam, and have either of those hit for any decent amount of damage. Expert mage passive was also nerfed so my magicka costs as a stamina sorc are increased as well. Because of the health nerf, 15K of my resources are stolen and i won't get them back until I have about 300 champion points. So i don a dress like every other sorc is forced to.

This is not a sorc issue, its a no hardcaps + 15k less resoruces issue. The same issue is causing perma dodge roll and 15k wreaking blow spam.

But yeah nerfing sorc will fix all that.

+1

It's just that some people feel like sorcerers should be useless in PvP and PvE. Matter of fact give the choice to all these people crying nerf sorcerer they Sorcerer would have less damage than a DK/NB and no survivalbility what so ever. Think about it ZOS what would be the point to playing Sorcerer again. Remember the days of pre 1.6 where if you was a Sorc very very select few people would let you do trails or endgame with them because the class was useless, this is what these people who cry about sorcerers being useful want. Pre 1.6 I can count 12 sorcerers to a include a guildmaster of a guild that I was a part that was a sorcerer who left the game because of how useless the class was. Nerfing only sorcerers again without nerfing or fixing all the other balancing problems at this point bring the class down back to where it was pre 1.6 useless only useful as a negate slave. NBs have their abitily to be able to disappear when threaten, and come back and burst you down to dead in 3 to 5 secs. (Burst Damage). DKs still have the highest sustained DPS in the game atm with some of the best survivalbility in the game when set up right. Templars pretty much is the best healer/utlitity in the game with decent dps a very nice execute, great survivalbility. So yeah the people who are crying nerf for sorcs. are the same people exploiting the 2h wreaking blow mixed with heavy attack canceling both with a class ability and then having all three hit at the same time almost one hit killing any caster that isn't using damage shields. Now you see why these people are crying they are pretty much cheating and getting mad that their cheats/exploit don't work on some builds.

FearlessOne_2014

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Ryuho wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Any half-decent Sorcerer is just a waste of time. It's best to just ignore them completely and let them play a different game than the rest.

Let's just hope it won't take ZOS nearly a year to fix Sorcerers...

Fix Sorcerers haha

In terms of the "fix", pls ZOS "fix":
1. perma blinkers,
2. perma 360 blockers,
3. perma reflect scale spammers,
4. perma cloakers,
5. perma dodgers,
6. perma shield spammers,
7. perma mist spammers.

Stop Qq about Sorc, evry class have some spammable ability and also utility, which helps with escaping etc..

You'll have to point me to the part I wrote about 'spammable abilities'.

Sorcerers are currently out of control because:

• Much damage
• Much tank
• Much escape

All from stacking one single attribute.

Yes, other classes can stack either Magicka or Stamina but no other class has had such a huge benefit from the softcap removal as Sorcerers. Call me QQ, call me noob, call me whatever, but after a year of (almost exclusively) playing PvP, you have to be blind to not notice the current situation. This is Dragon Knight 2.0, only much harder to actually kill since DK2.0 has the best escape ability in the game, whereas DK1.0 would always end up dying.

Did you say the best escape in the game? Yet people with 2h'ers kill sorcerers easy with just critical rush when they are bolt escaping away. Did we forget about the NB's class ability called shadowcloak and it's morph that let a NB disappearing and take no damage over time while using it so you can't even see where he/she went. But you are crying nerf sorcerer??? I'm sorry that sorcerers are not just free kills for you people exploiting game mechanics who can't kill a sorcerer. I think you should probley stop trying to exploit and really learn how to play the game.

ToRelax

@FearlessOne_2014 please stop calling other player's playstyle exploiting. Animation cancelling is intended as well...

SafiyerAmitora

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Shield stacking is not a sorcerer issue. No sorc can shield stack without the use of other abilities available to every class. Any DK or templar can have just as many shields up as a sorc at any given time.

Here is an OP shield stack:

Wear whitestrakes gear and use (2H or S&B) and resto - enchant your weapons with hardening. Charge in with shielded assault (or crit rush into brawler) if they burn through all that and your health goes down, whitestrakes will proc, immediately hit dampen magicka then pop barrier then pop a healing ward on top of barrier while your health is still low. Your weapon enchant shields should have proced by then giving you even more shields.

So many shields! Clearly this proves that sorcerer needs to get nerfed!

Yes sorcs have one strong damage shield, but it doesnt stack on itself. When you see a sorcerer with a blue health bar that goes across the screen they are using annulment or dampen and it won't even stop your weapon damage.

This is like saying that sorcs are OP because they use crushing shock and nirnhoned/sharpened/whatever trait is bugged next.

I think the main issue is that people have it in their minds that sorcs are supposed to be glass cannons with decent DPS but they are supposed to disintegrate like wet tissue paper if hit by a strong breeze. If you hit a sorc with a few light attacks and the sorc doesn't immediately explode then its time for another QQ thread.

If you don't like the shield meta, then tell ZOS to incentivize hybrid builds instead of just crying for nerfs. I'd much rather be a stamina sorc than a shield stacking, stick wielding, dress parade but I can't run a hybrid build anymore. I don't have enough resources to hold the attribute numbers in both magicka and stam, and have either of those hit for any decent amount of damage. Expert mage passive was also nerfed so my magicka costs as a stamina sorc are increased as well. Because of the health nerf, 15K of my resources are stolen and i won't get them back until I have about 300 champion points. So i don a dress like every other sorc is forced to.

This is not a sorc issue, its a no hardcaps + 15k less resoruces issue. The same issue is causing perma dodge roll and 15k wreaking blow spam.

But yeah nerfing sorc will fix all that.

+1

It's just that some people feel like sorcerers should be useless in PvP and PvE. Matter of fact give the choice to all these people crying nerf sorcerer they Sorcerer would have less damage than a DK/NB and no survivalbility what so ever. Think about it ZOS what would be the point to playing Sorcerer again. Remember the days of pre 1.6 where if you was a Sorc very very select few people would let you do trails or endgame with them because the class was useless, this is what these people who cry about sorcerers being useful want. Pre 1.6 I can count 12 sorcerers to a include a guildmaster of a guild that I was a part that was a sorcerer who left the game because of how useless the class was. Nerfing only sorcerers again without nerfing or fixing all the other balancing problems at this point bring the class down back to where it was pre 1.6 useless only useful as a negate slave. NBs have their abitily to be able to disappear when threaten, and come back and burst you down to dead in 3 to 5 secs. (Burst Damage). DKs still have the highest sustained DPS in the game atm with some of the best survivalbility in the game when set up right. Templars pretty much is the best healer/utlitity in the game with decent dps a very nice execute, great survivalbility. So yeah the people who are crying nerf for sorcs. are the same people exploiting the 2h wreaking blow mixed with heavy attack canceling both with a class ability and then having all three hit at the same time almost one hit killing any caster that isn't using damage shields. Now you see why these people are crying they are pretty much cheating and getting mad that their cheats/exploit don't work on some builds.

+1

Very well deserved.

And quite a well written argument; I definitely agree with this. I will lightly point out that animation canceling is intended, so it's not really that they're cheating, it's that they're using an intended mechanic to put out a whole ton of damage in an extremely short amount of time. But it is annoying, I'll agree to that.

Ezareth

DezIsDead wrote: »

I mean that's an exaggeration, show me one video of a sorc 1v10 like 1.5 and earlier DK's and I'll agree it's worse. 1v1 yeah sorcs are really awesome right now if played by someone competent. But by no means are they 1.5 DK flap talon standard everyone dies bad.

I actually killed an entire raid of about 30 people in about 5 minutes the other night. They just kept running over my mines and walking right into my overload. The greatest slaughter of 100 days /played of PvP and my freaking hard drive was full. ) =

That said I have some great clips of me killing 5 to 8 people like a fox in a henhouse.

Don't get me wrong, it isn't because Sorcs are OP. It is because Tamriel "Unlimited" has unleashed all sorts of bad into Cyrodiil (and these forums) and I've made it my quest to train them all personally!

Nala_

Ezareth wrote: »

DezIsDead wrote: »

I mean that's an exaggeration, show me one video of a sorc 1v10 like 1.5 and earlier DK's and I'll agree it's worse. 1v1 yeah sorcs are really awesome right now if played by someone competent. But by no means are they 1.5 DK flap talon standard everyone dies bad.

I actually killed an entire raid of about 30 people in about 5 minutes the other night. They just kept running over my mines and walking right into my overload. The greatest slaughter of 100 days /played of PvP and my freaking hard drive was full. ) =

That said I have some great clips of me killing 5 to 8 people like a fox in a henhouse.

Don't get me wrong, it isn't because Sorcs are OP. It is because Tamriel "Unlimited" has unleashed all sorts of bad into Cyrodiil (and these forums) and I've made it my quest to train them all personally!

you are so terrible i actually feel bad for you, lmao.

Ezareth

Nala_ wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

DezIsDead wrote: »

I mean that's an exaggeration, show me one video of a sorc 1v10 like 1.5 and earlier DK's and I'll agree it's worse. 1v1 yeah sorcs are really awesome right now if played by someone competent. But by no means are they 1.5 DK flap talon standard everyone dies bad.

I actually killed an entire raid of about 30 people in about 5 minutes the other night. They just kept running over my mines and walking right into my overload. The greatest slaughter of 100 days /played of PvP and my freaking hard drive was full. ) =

That said I have some great clips of me killing 5 to 8 people like a fox in a henhouse.

Don't get me wrong, it isn't because Sorcs are OP. It is because Tamriel "Unlimited" has unleashed all sorts of bad into Cyrodiil (and these forums) and I've made it my quest to train them all personally!

you are so terrible i actually feel bad for you, lmao.

If I knew who you were that insult might actually mean something to me. Then again.....no it wouldn't.

I see my Tamriel Unlimited comment must have stung some people. Don't worry, I give private lessons too!

Nala_

Ezareth wrote: »

Nala_ wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

DezIsDead wrote: »

I mean that's an exaggeration, show me one video of a sorc 1v10 like 1.5 and earlier DK's and I'll agree it's worse. 1v1 yeah sorcs are really awesome right now if played by someone competent. But by no means are they 1.5 DK flap talon standard everyone dies bad.

I actually killed an entire raid of about 30 people in about 5 minutes the other night. They just kept running over my mines and walking right into my overload. The greatest slaughter of 100 days /played of PvP and my freaking hard drive was full. ) =

That said I have some great clips of me killing 5 to 8 people like a fox in a henhouse.

Don't get me wrong, it isn't because Sorcs are OP. It is because Tamriel "Unlimited" has unleashed all sorts of bad into Cyrodiil (and these forums) and I've made it my quest to train them all personally!

you are so terrible i actually feel bad for you, lmao.

If I knew who you were that insult might actually mean something to me. Then again.....no it wouldn't.

I see my Tamriel Unlimited comment must have stung some people. Don't worry, I give private lessons too!

you need some private lessons in how to walk through someone who is wrecking blowing, lmao. "its impossible to do it i tried", man you are so basic i feel bad for you.

Tankqull

Detector wrote: »

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Instant shield stacking is the real culprit here, its just that on a sorc one of the shields is based off their dps resource pool so they get a double benefit of offense and defense by stacking magika. This is what needs fixing.

I agree. This needs to be corrected.

and roll dodging needs to consume health as it is unfair that stamina user have a double benefit offensive- and defensivly.

Ezareth

Nala_ wrote: »

you need some private lessons in how to walk through someone who is wrecking blowing, lmao. "its impossible to do it i tried", man you are so basic i feel bad for you.

I'm sorry I'm giving playing lessons not reading lessons:

Ezareth wrote: »

Yeah it stops the animation if the guy wielding the sword is a terri-bad. I tried several times having people "walk through" my two-hander and I was able to hit them by mouse looking in their direction as they passed through every single time no matter what they did and I had never used a 2-hander before that. With practice it is virtually impossible to miss with this ability unless they dodge roll (and it works) or they bolt escape.

As I said to your suggestion to simply "walk through" someone swinging a 2-hander at me it simply doesn't work unless they're a terribad. I picked up a 2 hander for the first time ever and I hit someone "walking through" me every single time. It's impossible to miss unless your a terrible player which come to think of it is probably why you made the suggestion in the first place.

Anything else to add?

cozmon3c_ESO

Nala_ wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Nala_ wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

DezIsDead wrote: »

I mean that's an exaggeration, show me one video of a sorc 1v10 like 1.5 and earlier DK's and I'll agree it's worse. 1v1 yeah sorcs are really awesome right now if played by someone competent. But by no means are they 1.5 DK flap talon standard everyone dies bad.

I actually killed an entire raid of about 30 people in about 5 minutes the other night. They just kept running over my mines and walking right into my overload. The greatest slaughter of 100 days /played of PvP and my freaking hard drive was full. ) =

That said I have some great clips of me killing 5 to 8 people like a fox in a henhouse.

Don't get me wrong, it isn't because Sorcs are OP. It is because Tamriel "Unlimited" has unleashed all sorts of bad into Cyrodiil (and these forums) and I've made it my quest to train them all personally!

you are so terrible i actually feel bad for you, lmao.

If I knew who you were that insult might actually mean something to me. Then again.....no it wouldn't.

I see my Tamriel Unlimited comment must have stung some people. Don't worry, I give private lessons too!

you need some private lessons in how to walk through someone who is wrecking blowing, lmao. "its impossible to do it i tried", man you are so basic i feel bad for you.

the ones who are good with wrecking blow wont let you walk through them, if they are doing it to you, you must be pretty bad. wrecking blow might as well be a 7m radius around the dude, i bolt away and im 15m away and still getting smacked with it. the ability is bugged out. if i dodge roll it, i get smacked up in the air most the time by the ability as well. i walk towards the person trying to walk through them, they just back up while doing it. i cant expend any stamina for a dodge roll because chances are it will still hit me even if i dodge through the person. its best just to eat the hit and cc break it and reshield and hope it doesnt perma cc you (which it does that aswell) even though you have a full bar of stamina for cc breaking. WB needs to be polished ASAP, its timings for reacting to it are all kinds of messed up and its not lag.

thelordoffelines

We really need to consolidate all whining about sorcs into one thread.

DezIsDead

Ezareth wrote: »

DezIsDead wrote: »

I mean that's an exaggeration, show me one video of a sorc 1v10 like 1.5 and earlier DK's and I'll agree it's worse. 1v1 yeah sorcs are really awesome right now if played by someone competent. But by no means are they 1.5 DK flap talon standard everyone dies bad.

I actually killed an entire raid of about 30 people in about 5 minutes the other night. They just kept running over my mines and walking right into my overload. The greatest slaughter of 100 days /played of PvP and my freaking hard drive was full. ) =

That said I have some great clips of me killing 5 to 8 people like a fox in a henhouse.

Don't get me wrong, it isn't because Sorcs are OP. It is because Tamriel "Unlimited" has unleashed all sorts of bad into Cyrodiil (and these forums) and I've made it my quest to train them all personally!

ok well besides ezerath killing bads, its not really plausible. i should elaborate, a sorc standing in the middle of a zerg destroying souls. its just not possible, then again dk's arent really 1vXing atm eitheir. IMO the game has come a long way towards being balanced. do things need tweaked? yes, for instance, as a sorc, overload needs fixed, im melting ppl with 2-3 hits from OL light attacks. radiant destruction needs to be broken with roll dodge etc. all other executes can be dodged. a few other things, but honestly the game is much closer to being balanced then it was.

Cinbri

Templar point of view:
1)Stacking shield?! Ok, someone really thinking that casting any shield then recasting Blazing Shield every 5 sec IS shield stacking? (Personally, I really wanna see templar who dismounting every 5 sec for recasting to prevent ganking)
2)Use so famous Eclipse vs casters?! Ok, despite fact that ability is broken and disabling templar.
3)Using Charge to chase enemies (mostly streaking sorcs)?! Ok, if you wanna feel how GCD looks like and be stacked in charge animation.

Cinbri wrote: »

Just to share from today experience: decided to use it while closing dolmen: casted charge - stacked in animation, after bug ended casted again and stacked in animation, after second time bug ended casted 3rd time... and stacked in animation. 3 stack in a row with 3 cast. Should i say what i thinking about it?

4)Breath of Life is templar's main OP?! Ok, but doesn't it mean that "omega-super healing" suffering the most coz Cyro healing depression?
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ToRelax

@Cinbri , no one (at least I think so) is dismouning every 20 seconds to recast Hardened Ward. In Combat the shield duration can make a difference against a skilled opponent who times his attacks right after the 6 second duration is over. But mostly you will recast Hardened Ward before it is gone to prevent unmitigated hits on your small health pool, so the duration is less important than most people may think in actual combat. In fact, comparing only Hardened Ward and Blazing Shield, Hardened Ward would be the preferable defense tool against ranged opponents, while Blazing Shield is better against melee. However, the Sorc will still be able to defend himself better against melee opponents if he uses the other defense tools he has, wich the Templar is lacking mostly, being Mines, Bolt Escape, Encase, Defensive Rune.

Derra

ToRelax wrote: »

@Cinbri , no one (at least I think so) is dismouning every 20 seconds to recast Hardened Ward. In Combat the shield duration can make a difference against a skilled opponent who times his attacks right after the 6 second duration is over. But mostly you will recast Hardened Ward before it is gone to prevent unmitigated hits on your small health pool, so the duration is less important than most people may think in actual combat. In fact, comparing only Hardened Ward and Blazing Shield, Hardened Ward would be the preferable defense tool against ranged opponents, while Blazing Shield is better against melee. However, the Sorc will still be able to defend himself better against melee opponents if he uses the other defense tools he has, wich the Templar is lacking mostly, being Mines, Bolt Escape, Encase, Defensive Rune.

I dismount every 20s when i am remotely close to an area where one might face capable opposition.

Vis

Rise of the planet of the sorcs? You do realize you are suggesting we were your ape slaves before 1.6 right? Anyone else catch the not so subtle jab?

Davenaro

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

This is great. xD