Thornblade NA 15 February

LonePirate

Just after 10 PM EST tonight:



DC must be staying up past their bedtime.

KBKB

LonePirate wrote: »

Just after 10 PM EST tonight:



DC must be staying up past their bedtime.

Hilarious you would even bother to post this after wheeler's graph. You guys really are *** stupid I give up, trying to make you see logic is nigh impossible.

- EP Trashiest faction in ESO and now the most deluded.

Roechacca

LonePirate wrote: »

Just after 10 PM EST tonight:



DC must be staying up past their bedtime.

The lock symbol pops up before actual lock out starts as preemptive measures . You can still get in DC with no que .

Also , your characters eyes look like he's been hitting the skooma .

KBKB

roechacca wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Just after 10 PM EST tonight:



DC must be staying up past their bedtime.

The lock symbol pops up before actual lock out starts as preemptive measures . You can still get in DC with no que .

Also , your characters eyes look like he's been hitting the skooma .

Good post roe, prepare to have it completely ingored because an EP riding back to his zerg rode past 2 DC on the way.

Roechacca

EP has been locked since 10AM lol

KBKB

roechacca wrote: »

EP has been locked since 10AM lol

Well those doors won't break themselves.

Roechacca

An what about those cheaper oils EP ? 200 AP cheaper then DC !

LonePirate

Due to the masses on Chillrend, DC has nowhere else to go.

KBKB

LonePirate wrote: »

Due to the masses on Chillrend, DC has nowhere else to go.

PvE'ers, Don't worry you will get those scrolls back at 3am when the juggalo wake up horn sounds.

Roechacca

LonePirate wrote: »

Due to the masses on Chillrend, DC has nowhere else to go.

That just shows you have Pop lock on TB and near Pop lock on Chil . Way to horde every server ...

murtugo

Food for Thought

One of the reasons why EP is over populated is because AD and DC cannot keep their players. most of them transferred to EP...

Do you guys ever ask the question why it happened?

Roechacca

Can't even leave the DC PvE kids alone can Ya . Let's see Haderus too .

SoulScream

Chill is hilarious farming I don't know how DC players can get farmed that hard in Glade for so long. SMH!

Roechacca

Their just PvE players on Chil defending buffs while the rest of their PvE guilds run trials and dungeons . Most of them don't even have max level or gear . Fighting a army of VR3's doesn't take effort .

Killer808

Tripwyr wrote: »

Killer808 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Caladriegan wrote: »

"Wah! I'm outnumbered! It's the only reason I lose!"

Wow thats the EP rally cry from six months ago.

And now it is the AD DiEcebelacrity cry...

Just because your guild decided they don't care about their faction doesn't mean every other guild feels the same way.

You know nothing about our faction first of all. Secondly, isn't this the same trypwyr that used to farm bleakers days on end and would say in yell chat... get away from bleakers or we will leave and let you die. we don't care about the campaign we just want the first grand overlord. Well how did that work out for you there forumemperor?

Angavar

And EP whinged just as much, if not more, than AD does now.

Also, when both factions are locked, we still dominate EP, and take back most of our stuff. Can't say the same happened when it was EP at a disadvantage..

But keep telling yourself that night capping requires 'effort'.

Satiar

What actually constitutes a nightcap? My guild is PST based and the map when it goes red is red before midnight. Lets not get an east coast bias going here.

Caladriegan

Angavar wrote: »

And EP whinged just as much, if not more, than AD does now.

Also, when both factions are locked, we still dominate EP, and take back most of our stuff. Can't say the same happened when it was EP at a disadvantage..

But keep telling yourself that night capping requires 'effort'.

And what time would be convenient for us to login to benefit you the most if our schedules put us playing in the daytime or at night?

Or should we just not play at all unless you personally are able to login?

Let me know when you are willing to reimburse me for what I've paid out to play this game and then I'll think about letting you tell me how and when to play.

KBKB

Caladriegan wrote: »

Angavar wrote: »

And EP whinged just as much, if not more, than AD does now.

Also, when both factions are locked, we still dominate EP, and take back most of our stuff. Can't say the same happened when it was EP at a disadvantage..

But keep telling yourself that night capping requires 'effort'.

And what time would be convenient for us to login to benefit you the most if our schedules put us playing in the daytime or at night?

Or should we just not play at all unless you personally are able to login?

Let me know when you are willing to reimburse me for what I've paid out to play this game and then I'll think about letting you tell me how and when to play.

Judging by the population graph anytime so long as an ICP concert isn't on is good for you guys.

Huckdabuck

What's with certain people and the horses they abuse or sayings that they just parrot over and over?

Angavar

Nightcap isn't about the time.

Its about logging in/staying up when the other factions are at lower population (off peak) and taking the map, because you have double the numbers of the other factions.

AD had the first significant oceanic pop. Then die rerolled EP in an attempt to balance the pops, but ended up tipping them in EPs favour when a tonne of pugs followed. Half of die came back to AD, but for whatever reason havoc chose to remain EP, despite knowing that EP already had a good number of solid oceanic guilds/players, where AD and DC had one or two.

Cue the bandwagoners rerolling to the winning side and AD/DC players getting tired of the imbalance, lag and zergs in offpeak, and leaving or quitting the game.

*There's a reason Brian wheeler is looking into this.. Because its a legitimate issue that is harming PvP. Claiming otherwise is just being deliberately obtuse.

LonePirate

Angavar wrote: »

Also, when both factions are locked, we still dominate EP, and take back most of our stuff. Can't say the same happened when it was EP at a disadvantage.

I don't know if you are AD or DC but does your definition of "dominate" include events like those from Sunday when EP marched with impunity all the way to Glade during a mutual prime time lock, took our scroll and laughed at the weak DC resistance?

Or does your definition include events like those from Monday when EP took Faregyl, Black Boot and Bloodmayne in prime time against a pop locked AD?

I just want to make sure we share the same definition of the word "dominate."

Angavar

AD. And no, lone, I wasn't online for that. The only days I get to play prime time are Saturday and Sunday, due to living in Australia and working full time.

Its not hard to zerg keeps when you already have emp and other buffs from the night before. And somehow, AD and DC seem to be heavily affected by the lag that your trains cause, so many avoid fighting EP simply because its not fun to crash every 5 minutes or lag to death.

Angavar

Nice nitpicking though. Try addressing the real issue.

Killer808

Satiar wrote: »

What actually constitutes a nightcap? My guild is PST based and the map when it goes red is red before midnight. Lets not get an east coast bias going here.

Very good point. I live in Hawaii and play with people from all over the world in a WORLDWIDE game...so i guess night-capping is relative to where u are in the world...

Angavar

Night capping = offpeak capping, as I explained earlier. It doesn't relate to local time, only the population disparity.

Caladriegan

Angavar wrote: »

Night capping = offpeak capping, as I explained earlier. It doesn't relate to local time, only the population disparity.

Off peak for whom? One person's off peak is another one's prime. You just said you're Australian. I'd suggest you find a few like minded players to build your numbers for your play time instead of complaining that you need artificial caps...

sirston

KBKB wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

KBKB wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Well, we crowned Anon emp at around 11 PST, which as far as I know is normal gaming hours

Most of DC was gone by 8p EST since it was a work night.

Lol. The excuses continue.

Here you go, mate:

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We cannot give specific numbers as to population caps and what each bar means, however here is a graph of Thornblade's (US) recent population which echos the statement above regarding the populations of each Alliance within that campaign:

Awesome post let's see EP worm their way out this one.

What is there to worm out of here? I don't think anyone from EP denies they are typically the highest pop in Thorn NA. If anything, AD and DC want people to believe their populations are constantly in the valley range and never in the peak range.

You guys claim a lot of your wins are down to skill, now there is proof from Wheeler that's purely down to numbers, A lot you think this is in AD/DC's heads or it's no where near as bad as it actually is. Refer to Tripwyr's bullet points to see just how out of hand and stupid it has gotten. If you were a semi decent player that enjoyed a challenge you would have rerolled by now. This just highlights the fact how trashy most EP are and the proof is in the pudding, all your back patting, high fives, and leet talk is now worth a whole bucket full of nothing and lols.

Alright, Alright you say where bad or we have a high population or we are the only ones who spam skills, but that where your wrong. Dc complains that EP is over populated. Well that's cool but, there are pop locks for all factions which cap us at a certain number which is set to keep the game fair if we had our 2000+ players playing yea maybe is when you can complain. So your idea that EP is the only faction that zergs with large numbers, Wrong, There has been multiple time where there is triple the number of AD killing EP also to add in DC will be sniping you in the back. To add in also every faction spams skill's DC or AD or EP Dark flare/healing springs/fire ring you name it everyone spams it. But What kills AvAvA for me is when two groups are so hell bent on attacking one faction because they can't communicate with their own faction and is so negative to every person they see in their own zone chat and then complains that one faction is at fault because of some reason? it is beyond comprehension That they must resort to teaming up number of time's to try and stop that one group even though you cause the problem? That's shortsighted point of view is what is wrong with the game. That to try to win a campaign you have to result it to AvA and cry about stupid crap that is easy fix if they just fixed it themselves if they just stopped double teaming us and stop giving us a reason to night cap or day cap or some other capping you make up then just maybe your factions could maybe just maybe win a campaign.

Stop Causing You're Own Problems.

Pancake-Tragedy

sirston wrote: »

KBKB wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

KBKB wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Well, we crowned Anon emp at around 11 PST, which as far as I know is normal gaming hours

Most of DC was gone by 8p EST since it was a work night.

Lol. The excuses continue.

Here you go, mate:

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We cannot give specific numbers as to population caps and what each bar means, however here is a graph of Thornblade's (US) recent population which echos the statement above regarding the populations of each Alliance within that campaign:

Awesome post let's see EP worm their way out this one.

What is there to worm out of here? I don't think anyone from EP denies they are typically the highest pop in Thorn NA. If anything, AD and DC want people to believe their populations are constantly in the valley range and never in the peak range.

You guys claim a lot of your wins are down to skill, now there is proof from Wheeler that's purely down to numbers, A lot you think this is in AD/DC's heads or it's no where near as bad as it actually is. Refer to Tripwyr's bullet points to see just how out of hand and stupid it has gotten. If you were a semi decent player that enjoyed a challenge you would have rerolled by now. This just highlights the fact how trashy most EP are and the proof is in the pudding, all your back patting, high fives, and leet talk is now worth a whole bucket full of nothing and lols.

Alright, Alright you say where bad or we have a high population or we are the only ones who spam skills, but that where your wrong. Dc complains that EP is over populated. Well that's cool but, there are pop locks for all factions which cap us at a certain number which is set to keep the game fair if we had our 2000+ players playing yea maybe is when you can complain. So your idea that EP is the only faction that zergs with large numbers, Wrong, There has been multiple time where there is triple the number of AD killing EP also to add in DC will be sniping you in the back. To add in also every faction spams skill's DC or AD or EP Dark flare/healing springs/fire ring you name it everyone spams it. But What kills AvAvA for me is when two groups are so hell bent on attacking one faction because they can't communicate with their own faction and is so negative to every person they see in their own zone chat and then complains that one faction is at fault because of some reason? it is beyond comprehension That they must resort to teaming up number of time's to try and stop that one group even though you cause the problem? That's shortsighted point of view is what is wrong with the game. That to try to win a campaign you have to result it to AvA and cry about stupid crap that is easy fix if they just fixed it themselves if they just stopped double teaming us and stop giving us a reason to night cap or day cap or some other capping you make up then just maybe your factions could maybe just maybe win a campaign.

Stop Causing You're Own Problems.

Keep telling yourself that you are good. It might come true someday. Until then, zerg on.

sirston

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

sirston wrote: »

KBKB wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

KBKB wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Well, we crowned Anon emp at around 11 PST, which as far as I know is normal gaming hours

Most of DC was gone by 8p EST since it was a work night.

Lol. The excuses continue.

Here you go, mate:

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We cannot give specific numbers as to population caps and what each bar means, however here is a graph of Thornblade's (US) recent population which echos the statement above regarding the populations of each Alliance within that campaign:

Awesome post let's see EP worm their way out this one.

What is there to worm out of here? I don't think anyone from EP denies they are typically the highest pop in Thorn NA. If anything, AD and DC want people to believe their populations are constantly in the valley range and never in the peak range.

You guys claim a lot of your wins are down to skill, now there is proof from Wheeler that's purely down to numbers, A lot you think this is in AD/DC's heads or it's no where near as bad as it actually is. Refer to Tripwyr's bullet points to see just how out of hand and stupid it has gotten. If you were a semi decent player that enjoyed a challenge you would have rerolled by now. This just highlights the fact how trashy most EP are and the proof is in the pudding, all your back patting, high fives, and leet talk is now worth a whole bucket full of nothing and lols.

Alright, Alright you say where bad or we have a high population or we are the only ones who spam skills, but that where your wrong. Dc complains that EP is over populated. Well that's cool but, there are pop locks for all factions which cap us at a certain number which is set to keep the game fair if we had our 2000+ players playing yea maybe is when you can complain. So your idea that EP is the only faction that zergs with large numbers, Wrong, There has been multiple time where there is triple the number of AD killing EP also to add in DC will be sniping you in the back. To add in also every faction spams skill's DC or AD or EP Dark flare/healing springs/fire ring you name it everyone spams it. But What kills AvAvA for me is when two groups are so hell bent on attacking one faction because they can't communicate with their own faction and is so negative to every person they see in their own zone chat and then complains that one faction is at fault because of some reason? it is beyond comprehension That they must resort to teaming up number of time's to try and stop that one group even though you cause the problem? That's shortsighted point of view is what is wrong with the game. That to try to win a campaign you have to result it to AvA and cry about stupid crap that is easy fix if they just fixed it themselves if they just stopped double teaming us and stop giving us a reason to night cap or day cap or some other capping you make up then just maybe your factions could maybe just maybe win a campaign.

Stop Causing You're Own Problems.

Keep telling yourself that you are good. It might come true someday. Until then, zerg on.

It seems you didn't read it =/ such a sad thing seeing that it can help you as a faction.